Crusades graphics

[TheLastEuropean]

Hi, one thing I noticed post-patch is the 'feel' of MTW is much better. I mean, previously I never bothered with peasants/militia/normal archers etc. etc. - I would always just tech up to billmen/longbows/sergeants etc. instead. I think it gives a greater 'feel' to the game now that you are forced to use these units and having to wait for the correct dates and times to get the higher units. (ok it's no feudal system but it's still better than previously)

It occurred to me that the 'feel' of crusades would be so much better (imo) if the graphics contained tunics etc. with the cross emblazoned upon it. I imagine ranks of troops all bearing the sign of the cross on their fronts/backs as they charge into battle screaming "God wills it".

Just a small, cosmetic thing but after I thought of it I cannot think why it wasn't so. Thus, all crusade armies are depicted in, say, their correct colours but with the sign of the cross emblazoned upon their fronts/backs but still carrying the correct nation banners. As it is now it sort of just feels like another ordinary battle. Just wanted to field opinions. Do you think it would add a certain element to crusade battles?

[monkian]

I think the addition of crosses on tunics would be a great addition to crusades http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[deejayvee]

Good idea. It will add atmosphere to the crusade battles. Just don't add any holy lances...

[A.Saturnus]

... or hand-grenades...
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Ktonos]

Yes, but any crusade-related unit has that. Order foot Infantry, Teutonic Knights & Seargents, Templars, Sandiago Knights, Hospitalers etc. Apart from consuming time and space for another more importand gameplay improvement, this feature would decrease the significance of the above units. Agreed in the point of having banners bearing the cross instead of the factions symbol (a cross with the factions colours maybe?).

[einar]

Quote[/b] ]Posted on Nov. 19 2002,12:16 by monkian
I think the addition of crosses on tunics would be a great addition to crusades

Yes, i'd like this feature too http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[[RDH] Spetz Natz]

Quote[/b] (A.Saturnus @ Nov. 20 2002,05:31)]... or hand-granates...
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
You mean the "holy hand grenades"?
LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

[deejayvee]

Quote[/b] ([RDH] Spetz Natz @ Nov. 20 2002,11:22)]You mean the "holy hand grenades"?
LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
From Antioch, I presume...

[Azrael]

Hey Guys,

My Crusading Order Foot Soldiers always had crosses on their shields (unless I was seeing things), but the idea of the Crusader's Tunic is a good one. I'd love to see it.

It would be nice have a bit of selection for your armies as well.

I mean, there's folks in the "know" about modding who have already done stuff like this, I'm sure.

I just think it would be fun to be able to select from maybe a set amount of pre-selected symbols.

Whenever I see my Order Footsoldiers running about with the Cross on their sheild, I remember the Middle English poem "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight".

Sir Gawain had a Pentangle on his sheild. A five pointed star, which signifies the Five Wounds of Christ (Crown of Thorns, nails in hands & feet).

It would be fun to have a bunch of medieval or runic symbols to play with. Not everyone has the time to mod.

What do you guys think?

Azrael

[insolent1]

For a real crusade feeling the crusading army should hold a mass before the battle in a big tent with tea & sandwichs afterwards http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[TheLastEuropean]

Ktonos, I was referring more to the look of the standard troops that are added/joined to a crusade rather than the specific crusade type troops. True the order foot units do have a cross on the shield but I just think it would be feel more like a crusade if the whole field was full of crosses. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

As you said, it's unimportant really. Although I'm not sure it would be that time-consuming for somebody who knew what they were doing.

[Ktonos]

I did n't wrote that is unimportant...In fact it is fairly important as anything that will bring the game closer to realism and add to the atmosphere IS important, but:

1. There are more serius aspects to be concidered of first.
2. Such an improvement would lower the uniqness of "Order" units.
3. I think that historicaly only order units where cross bearers and the rest of the folc just wore the regular staff (not sure for that though).
4. The fact is that all of us have great ideas about game improvements. That makes for many, many fun ideas
(personaly I'd like to see currency named by the coinage of the faction I play, eg not florins but sterlins when I play the English and Bezantinia as the Byzs)). The problem is that we all like them,I like yours generaly, but it is impossible for the developers to make even few of them happen in a single add-on.