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wow.
How incredibly sick can you be. Hell must be a cozy place as all the devils are on earth.
The most pious countries seem to generally be the most badly hit, whether by nature's forces or war. This means Satan is real.
Rhyfelwyr
12-16-2014, 12:40
I was genuinely gobsmacked when I saw this. What has to be going on in somebodies mind to think it is a good idea to do something like this?
I of the Storm
12-16-2014, 13:31
Gives me a lump in my stomach and stirs archaic feelings of vengeance.
Seamus Fermanagh
12-16-2014, 14:54
:shame:
Deathcount up to 130. Good luck looking at the world with your dead eyes, how can you do such a thing. I am glad that I will never understand.
If it was just to horrify, it worked, congratulations to you and your sheep.
If one trusts this (http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-27631-710-lost-lives-to-suicide-bombers-in-2013) piece, 710 people were killed by suicide bombings in Pakistan last year (a decent fraction of these must surely have been children). The attack today fits the pattern nicely.
Kadagar_AV
12-16-2014, 17:54
It never cease to amaze me what horrors people are willing to impose on others...
It never cease to amaze me what horrors people are willing to impose on others...
Maybe there could be religions that is are inherently flawed by any humanistic standards one could think of? There are two, the islam and the leftist church. Both will always resort to violence if they don't get what they want on a silver plate when they are demanding something. (inter)national-socialists and islamists, sooooo cozy. Islamists and nazi's, what else is new.
Maybe there could be religions that is are inherently flawed by any humanistic standards one could think of? There are two, the islam and the leftist church. Both will always resort to violence if they don't get what they want on a silver plate when they are demanding something. (inter)national-socialists and islamists, sooooo cozy. Islamists and nazi's, what else is new.
Nah, it's actually Buddhism (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306). Be very afraid if Buddhists start to settle in your neighbourhood.
Horrible. It reminded me Beslan and the Emirate of Caucasus.
I of the Storm
12-17-2014, 08:49
And now I find it's kind of disgusting that as of this morning the Sydney man (2 dead, first world problem) still has rather extensive media coverage (background, avoidability etc.) while the Pakistan school massacre (130 dead, not a first world problem) has obviously disappeared from most online news media.
Papewaio
12-17-2014, 09:14
News thrives on violence, bad things and unusual scenarios.
Afghanistan Taliban isn't pleased and openly condems the attack. Hard to understand who is who
Papewaio
12-17-2014, 09:44
Remember this is tribal level violence and there is no real chief of Chiefs in charge.
And now I find it's kind of disgusting that as of this morning the Sydney man (2 dead, first world problem) still has rather extensive media coverage (background, avoidability etc.) while the Pakistan school massacre (130 dead, not a first world problem) has obviously disappeared from most online news media.
News, something new. Terrorist attacks in Pakistan is the normal state of things.
News, something new. Terrorist attacks in Pakistan is the normal state of things.
You are probably right, but this is extremily vicious. Supposedly they had to watch the teachers in a most gruesome way before they got killed themselve. Breivik was just one man but these were several who agreed on doing this, how sick can you be if several persons agree to do this. A bomb is indiscrimative, wrong place at the wrong time, but the ugliness of this is pretty damn scary. I got this sick feeling in my stomach that I also had at the massacre in Norway, it's way off, pure evil.
You are probably right, but this is extremily vicious. Supposedly they had to watch the teachers in a most gruesome way before they got killed themselve. Breivik was just one man but these were several who agreed on doing this, how sick can you be if several persons agree to do this. A bomb is indiscrimative, wrong place at the wrong time, but the ugliness of this is pretty damn scary. I got this sick feeling in my stomach that I also had at the massacre in Norway, it's way off, pure evil.
It's a step up from intentionally killing civilians; including children rather than specifically targeting them; but this is also still the top story in many news media, so I don't see much inconsistency.
Papewaio
12-17-2014, 12:05
It is in a country where you can be executed for blasphemy and no evidence need to be presented. In fact they cannot present evidence as that would also be an act of blasphemy. That puts it at least two hundred years behind the west in development.
Add to it attacks on vaccine workers and it the list keeps going on and on.
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
12-18-2014, 03:42
If one trusts this (http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-27631-710-lost-lives-to-suicide-bombers-in-2013) piece, 710 people were killed by suicide bombings in Pakistan last year (a decent fraction of these must surely have been children). The attack today fits the pattern nicely.
It's a bit different blowing yourself up to walking into a school and letting rip.
Presumably these children were "enemies" because their parents were mostly soldiers.
The point about this is that the people who did it were evil.
Kadagar_AV
12-18-2014, 04:17
And now I find it's kind of disgusting that as of this morning the Sydney man (2 dead, first world problem) still has rather extensive media coverage (background, avoidability etc.) while the Pakistan school massacre (130 dead, not a first world problem) has obviously disappeared from most online news media.
Some cultures are more into doing psychotic things than others these days... So when psychotic things happens there, people hardly raise an eyebrow.
Other cultures don't share this problem, and thus an incident there will make people of similar cultures react more, as it feels more close to home.
It's just how it is, we care more about those closer to ourselves, like it or not. I am sure the Pakistan thingy is WAY big in surrounding countries media and forum discussions... Few of those however frequent here (unfortunately).
a completely inoffensive name
12-18-2014, 05:38
Sad news, these kind of attacks will not stop for a while though. The entire region is poor, underdeveloped and mismanaged. Expect more of these attacks to happen in the region.
Rhyfelwyr
12-18-2014, 11:41
Did these sorts of things ever happen at other points in history? I know entire communities of adults and children have been massacred, but is this idea of singling out children for slaughter as a terror tactic a modern phenomenon?
Sad news, these kind of attacks will not stop for a while though. The entire region is poor, underdeveloped and mismanaged. Expect more of these attacks to happen in the region.
Yeah, there is only one thing that has nothing to do with it.
Seamus Fermanagh
12-18-2014, 15:25
Did these sorts of things ever happen at other points in history? I know entire communities of adults and children have been massacred, but is this idea of singling out children for slaughter as a terror tactic a modern phenomenon?
The slaughter of children has a rich history and figures in both myth and the Bible. That said, I haven't found any examples where this was done programmatically as a terror tactic. The more common motivations seem to be removal of potential rival/threats (e.g. Herod's Slaughter of the Innocents; The eradication of the Amlekites; the eradication of all of the siblings of a ruler's heir upon her/his death) since a dead child cannot grow up to seek vengeance. Lots of stories (Oedipus; Perseus; Jesus' flight to Egypt; The Man in the Iron Mask, etc) depict when this strategy backfires.
The only "terror" example I can think of was that of the Last Plague upon Egypt in Exodus. Even there, however, it was "first born" and not children per se.
Ah, damn the zionists for doing this. Muslims would never do this of course. Islam is the only thing that has nothing to do with it, even if it screams you in the face that it actually does.
Boko Haram killed 40 or so the same day and enslaved hundreds.
But it has nothing to do with islam. To even think it gives you a permission to be a sadistic piece of shit, inconcievable.
Papewaio
12-19-2014, 01:40
Did these sorts of things ever happen at other points in history? I know entire communities of adults and children have been massacred, but is this idea of singling out children for slaughter as a terror tactic a modern phenomenon?
If the Bible is a historical record of its time...
Then Jesus is at least one story about all the baby boys being killed.
God in the time of Moses wiped out all the first born sons.
Solomon the Wise(guy) wiped out his brothers to get the throne.
History is full of males and children being wiped out and the woman taken as sex slaves.
Kadagar_AV
12-19-2014, 02:42
Rhyf, if you lob people will smash...
Rhyfelwyr
12-19-2014, 11:46
Rhyf, if you lob people will smash...
I was asking a genuine and relevant question. As usual, in your blind hatred of Christianity you have completely missed the nuance in my question. Believe it or not I am fully aware of massacres of children throughout history including in the Bible. My question was regarding "singling out children for slaughter as a terror tactic". Thankfully this was not lost on other posters, and so thanks go to them for the useful replies.
Meanwile the 'incidents' that are occuring in France are not really incidents anymore. Leftist people know, for a fact, that it has nothing to do with islam. Beheading infidels must be recreational therapy I guess, I shoot blue shells in Mariokart, also pretty mean. I am not any better.
Ironside
12-23-2014, 11:31
Did these sorts of things ever happen at other points in history? I know entire communities of adults and children have been massacred, but is this idea of singling out children for slaughter as a terror tactic a modern phenomenon?
Singling out children and placing them in one location with relativly few adults (aka schools and children's creche) are a relatively modern phenomenon.
Edit: What I'm saying that if you want to hurt the weakest ones in a terror attack, schools are a very good target today. That type of target haven't existed for that long in most of the world.
Maybe China during one of the civil war periods, but I don't know how old the students were for civil service examinations. University type education facilities are quite different after all.
Hmmmmm, over 500 people sentenced to death, bit overkill no. Such a thing like this can't be organised by 500 people. I understand they are reaaaaaly angry over there but the lot of those accused probably had nothing to do with it.
^ Either you didn't read your news source properly, or your news source didn't read its sources properly.
Kralizec
12-23-2014, 17:56
Hmmmmm, over 500 people sentenced to death, bit overkill no. Such a thing like this can't be organised by 500 people. I understand they are reaaaaaly angry over there but the lot of those accused probably had nothing to do with it.
The people you refer to were on death row for entirely crimes, many of them have been incarcerated for years. Pakistan has observed a moratorium on death penalties since 2008 (IIRC), so those people have been waiting in prison for either A) exactly this: getting executed afterall when the moratorium ends B) till the abolishment of the death penalty and conversion of their sentences to life in prison.
The people you refer to were on death row for entirely crimes, many of them have been incarcerated for years. Pakistan has observed a moratorium on death penalties since 2008 (IIRC), so those people have been waiting in prison for either A) exactly this: getting executed afterall when the moratorium ends B) till the abolishment of the death penalty and conversion of their sentences to life in prison.
Gotcha. Sometimes I am so stupid
a completely inoffensive name
12-24-2014, 07:11
Yeah, there is only one thing that has nothing to do with it.
Violence is tied to wealth, not religion. People who live wealthy lives naturally don't feel like picking up the ak and killing themselves for God.
Violence is tied to wealth, not religion. People who live wealthy lives naturally don't feel like picking up the ak and killing themselves for God.
But of course they wouldn't, islam is peace after all. Let's just neglect that it isn't.
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