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ShaiHulud
11-24-2002, 13:25
I recall a post in which someone bemoaned the fact that their provinces were losing loyalty without apparent cause.
One very simple way to cause this is to manage to put your monarch into an isolated province.

For instance, your king, with army, attacks and takes an island. Unfortunately, your marauding troops pillage and destroy the port that was there when you attacked. Result? A massive drop in loyalty in all your provinces Worse, it continues dropping until you restore (by rebuilding) the port.

Although I have not tested this, it seems quite possible that a monarch who managed to be surrounded by enemy provinces would, likewise, be isolated.

So, let's say your monarch is safe on the mainland. Are there any other potential problems? Enemy fleets Any island holdings you have can be isolated (from the king's influence) and those suffering isolation , again, lose loyalty quickly.

Conversely, if your monarch is on a island and subjected to a blockade, your other (mainland) holdings can be isolated.

Spetulhu
11-24-2002, 14:21
You can often see a horrible drop in loyalty when your king dies and is replaced by the heir. That Magnificent Builder V&V is incredibly useful, so start building stuff immediately

So I`m saying you had better not be bankrupt when you get a new King http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hosakawa Tito
11-24-2002, 18:16
Playing as the French, pre-patch, I had a successful crusade to Palestine, taking it from the Egyptians. Several years later my King died back in Ile de France province. My heir was crowned as the new King in Palestine Being cut off from the homelands by the Egyptian blockade of my navy, my homeland provinces all rebelled, the opportunistic HRE attacked me, the game was lost. The new King was crowned in Palestine because that province had a royal palace there that was built by the Egyptians before I took Palestine away from them. Moral of the story,Destroy any royal palaces in conquered territories that are isolated from your homelands/core provinces. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Katasaki Hirojima
11-25-2002, 06:23
Also, once your empire starts to become very large, you can no longer use your king on the frontline, as provinces on the other end of the kingdom will rebel. Just keep your king at the capital and you'll be fine. You don't relly need him at this point anyway, winning is just a matter of time.

scsscsfanfan
11-25-2002, 06:58
Once I was playing English and was excommunicated. To let the story flew, I send my King with a good army to meet the Pop - bad one, the rest of the kingdom just went into cival war. Pop must convienced my generalls to all turn against me . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
Another time I played Byzantine and send one of the heir to Norway - who never saw snow and wanted to have a look there - he was crowned the king 2 turns later and then many rebellines back home.
So yeah, make sure the king is at home with his beautiful wife and grandchildren.

Kraxis
11-25-2002, 14:54
I think I made the worst one of them all...

I knew I should not isolate my Emperor, so I had kept him at home in Constantinople (he was Rank 0 due to an unlucky death of my former Emperor). But the wily Sicilians had been invading Greece for years on end from Naples. Finally I had defeated the united fleets of theirs and the Italians long enough to be able to invade Naples. It was defended by a few troops and a bad general. So naturally I took stock of my mercs and the only general I could spare, my Emperor, and off they went. Just after I had hit End Turn I knew I had made a lousy move.
The Sicilians retreated to the Castle (too big to assault) because I had taken too many troops with me (I had stocked up on Alans to be able to capture them all so I could avoid a siege). So there I was with a siege lasting 6 years in a province cut off from my sprawling Empire. I went from +3000 florins to -1000 florins due to resetting the taxes and I had rebellions all over the place. DAMN
Now I have learned my mistake