Dumb newbie question

[Mithrandir]

I can build the gunfactory and the cannonpyramid thingy, yet once I've build those,I cant build handgunners,siegecrews,arbusquteers or any kind of gunpowder unit... If I can manufacture the weapons&factories, surely I should be able to train units which use them as well, no? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Hakonarson]

The availability of units is also governed by the time period - ie you can only build some units in the late period, or the middle period.

But you can build the required structures at any time - hence you've got ait all set up but you don't get the units

I forget what the time periods are - check out teh early middle and late campaign time frames (I only play starting in early - I really should pay more attention&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

And I have no idea where you can find a list of what time periods apply either - AFAIK it's not in any material that comes with the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Lord Romulous]

check out shadehonestus's war acadamy.

it lists a units stats and the time period they apply to.
eg early, high, late.

http://www.totalwarassembly.com/

go to the war acadamy section.

[Mithrandir]

I had thought about this possibility , but I thought, if you can build the buildings ,you should be able to train the units as well... I thought that the buildings would also be limited to certain periods, or alternativly that you could build arbusquteers right after the gunpowder event once you had the required structures... kind of stupid as it is now...

[Al Qasim Hussein]

Gunpowder appears in 1260 as far as the tech tree that comes w/ the game is concerned. The compass is also discovered, but I have no idea when.

[Brother Derfel]

Quote[/b] (Hakonarson @ Nov. 28 2002,17:16)]But you can build the required structures at any time - hence you've got ait all set up but you don't get the units
I have never experienced this. As far as I know the buildings only become available to build in 1260 when Gunpowder is discovered, and after building a gun workshop you should be able to at least build Handgunners straight away

Perhaps it is another problem stopping you from building them?

I am afraid I don't have a clue what that could be, sorry http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[DonCoyote]

Its not restricted to gunpowder weapons: in an early danish campaign i couldn't train xbowmen until a certain year even though i had the bowyers workshop built for some years previous. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Don Coyote

[w00tage]

to get hand guns you need varying levels of gunsmiths guild:

Handguns-gunsmiths wirkshop

Arquebusiers-Gunsmiths guild

its in a sheet that came with the game