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Jacob_Sterlov
08-23-2015, 19:45
Well, I shouldn't post this, but maybe somebody can explain how the game mechanics work to me.

Background:

I am facing Takeda clan.
They have half my provinces (13 vs. my 26 provinces).

They have a fairly expensive army:

Yet they show up with 3 armies whose total upkeep is 5000+. Well, it's not impossible if Shogun is "paying" their army fees, but I still wonder how are Takeda developing provinces with such a high army upkeep.

My issue

However, what puzzles me is this: all Yari Ashigaru and Bow Archers are maxed out. Literally: all of them are Rank 8 or something.

As some of you may know, units that lose men also lose experience.

I tried to break down the process of maxing out 30-40 Ashigaru units

So, in order to have some 26-40 units (2 or 3 stacks) of Rank 8 Yari Ashigaru (or Bow Ashigaru), this means:

You won all battles;
Every time one of your unit won a melee, it hasn't lost enough men to decrease experience but it has killed enough to either level up or retain its experience level;
As per point 2, but provided this happens with all of your units. All 30 or 40 of them.


The problem

Now, here is when I start smelling bull***t.

Basically, this AI Takeda gonzo shows up during single player with an overpowered Ashigaru Army that has no reason to exist. That is, because I followed his expansion and he had to conquer a good deal of provinces (some 10 of them) but, even so, I cannot believe all of his Ashigaru graduated each unit one level per battle (or something like this).

I just cannot believe this happened in game.

I too have my Rank 8 units, but we are talking of one or two of them in an Army that never lost a battle. Of course, as you might have understood, I am not excessively conservative. I got many Decisive Victories, but even a couple of Pyrrhic ones. Nothing that bothers me. However, one thing looks clear: no way I was able to max all my Ashigarus up to level 8.

Questions


How many of your units reach Level 8 during an average game?
Are you able to micromanage every melee (during the battle) so that everybody level up but does not lose enough men so to nullify said level up?
Any suggestions?
Is AI cheating grossly?