Charlemagne DLC

[Crandar]

C'est pour Charlemagne, old rascals!

https://i.imgur.com/yqYunyI.png

Didn't expect it honestly, I thought that we should expect something more British, something Iceni-like.

cha_attila_map - The First King AD768

Factions:

Kingdom of Ailech
Duchy of Alemannia
Kingdom of Alt Clut
Angria
Duchy of Aquitane
Kingdom of Asturias
Avars
Taifa of Badajoz
Taifa of Barcelona
Duchy of Bavaria
Duchy of Benevento
Bohemia
Kingdom of Brittany
Duchy of Burgundy
Kingdom of Carloman
Kingdom of Charlemagne
Kingdom of Connachta
Emirate of Cordoba
Duchy of Croatia
Kingdom of the Danes
Eastphalia
Duchy of Frisia
Duchy of Gascony
Kingdom of Glywysing
Emirate of Granada
Kingdom of Gwynedd
Kingdom of Kent
Kingdom of Leinster
Kingdom of the Lombards
Kingdom of Mercia
Kingdom of Munster
Nordalbingia
Kingdom of Northumbria
Obodrite
Duchy of Pamplona
Papal States
Kingdom of the Picts
Kingdom of Powys
Duchy of Provence
Avar Rebels
Christian Rebels
English Rebels
Frankish Rebels
Irish Rebels
Italian Rebels
Muslim Rebels
Pictish Rebels
Roman Rebels
Saxon Rebels
Slavic Rebels
Spanish Rebels
Viking Rebels
Welsh Rebels
Avar Separatists
Christian Separatists
English Separatists
Frankish Separatists
Gallacian Separatists
Irish Separatists
Italian Separatists
Muslim Separatists
Pictish Separatists
Roman Separatists
Saxon Separatists
Slavic Separatists
Viking Separatists
Welsh Separatists
Taifa of Sevilla
Theme of Sicily
Duchy of Spoleto
Taifa of Toledo
Kingdom of Ulaid
Taifa of Valencia
Republic of Venice
Kingdom of Wessex
Westphalia
Wilzi
Taifa of Zaragoza


Units

cha_avar_dragonship_guard_marines
cha_avar_foot_archers
cha_avar_guard
cha_avar_horse_archers
cha_avar_horse_masters
cha_avar_lancers
cha_avar_levy_archers
cha_avar_levy_spear
cha_avar_longship_boatmen
cha_avar_longship_heavy_boatmen
cha_avar_longship_light_boatmen
cha_avar_noble_archers
cha_avar_noble_lancers
cha_avar_noble_sword
cha_avar_onager
cha_avar_spear
cha_avar_tribesmen
cha_bre_armorican_cav
cha_bre_armorican_knights
cha_byz_archers
cha_byz_armoured_archers
cha_byz_artillery_dromon
cha_byz_castle_dromon_guard_marines
cha_byz_dromon_archer_boatmen
cha_byz_dromon_levy_marines
cha_byz_dromon_skutatoi
cha_byz_duxs_guard
cha_byz_iuvenes
cha_byz_large_onager
cha_byz_levy_spear
cha_byz_light_cav
cha_byz_onager
cha_byz_scout_cavalry
cha_byz_skirm
cha_byz_skutatoi
cha_byz_skutatoi_axemen
cha_byz_skutatoi_spear
cha_byz_tagmata_cavalry
cha_cel_armoured_spear
cha_cel_axemen
cha_cel_currach_teulu_marines
cha_cel_dragonship_teulu_marines
cha_cel_fianna
cha_cel_gazelhounds
cha_cel_horsemen
cha_cel_javelinmen
cha_cel_kerns
cha_cel_kings_fianna
cha_cel_kings_warband
cha_cel_levy_archers
cha_cel_levy_spear
cha_cel_long_fhada__sword_boatmen
cha_cel_long_fhada_archer_boatmen
cha_cel_long_fhada_javelin_boatmen
cha_cel_long_fhada_spear_boatmen
cha_cel_longship_archer_boatmen
cha_cel_longship_javelin_boatmen
cha_cel_longship_spear_boatmen
cha_cel_longship_sword_boatmen
cha_cel_onager
cha_cel_pictish_archers
cha_cel_pictish_crossbowmen
cha_cel_pictish_nobles
cha_cel_royal_horsemen
cha_cel_spear
cha_cel_sword
cha_cel_sword_band
cha_cel_sword_warriors
cha_cel_teulu
cha_cel_welsh_archers
cha_cel_welsh_longbowmen
cha_eng_dragonship_royal_marines
cha_eng_fyrd_archers
cha_eng_fyrd_axemen
cha_eng_fyrd_javelinmen
cha_eng_fyrd_slingers
cha_eng_fyrd_spear
cha_eng_horsemen
cha_eng_longship_fyrd_archer_boatmen
cha_eng_longship_fyrd_boatmen
cha_eng_longship_thegn_boatmen
cha_eng_onager
cha_eng_royal_companions
cha_eng_royal_horsemen
cha_eng_royal_thegns
cha_eng_select_archers
cha_eng_select_axemen
cha_eng_select_spear
cha_eng_thegn_spearmen
cha_eng_thegns
cha_fra_archers
cha_fra_armoured_spear
cha_fra_armoured_sword
cha_fra_artillery_dromon
cha_fra_castle_dromon_picked_marines
cha_fra_cav
cha_fra_dromon_heavy_marines
cha_fra_dromon_light_boatmen
cha_fra_dromon_marines
cha_fra_guardsmen
cha_fra_horsemen
cha_fra_large_onager
cha_fra_levy_archers
cha_fra_levy_skirm
cha_fra_levy_spear
cha_fra_mounted_archers
cha_fra_mounted_spear
cha_fra_mounted_swordsmen
cha_fra_onager
cha_fra_palace_guard
cha_fra_paladin_guardsmen
cha_fra_scola_cav
cha_fra_scola_knights
cha_fra_skirm
cha_fra_spear
cha_fra_sword
cha_gen_archers
cha_gen_armoured_spear
cha_gen_armoured_sword
cha_gen_artillery_dromon
cha_gen_castle_dromon_guard_marines
cha_gen_dromon_heavy_marines
cha_gen_dromon_light_boatmen
cha_gen_dromon_marines
cha_gen_guard_cav
cha_gen_knights
cha_gen_large_onager
cha_gen_levy_archers
cha_gen_levy_skirm
cha_gen_levy_spear
cha_gen_noble_cav
cha_gen_onager
cha_gen_skirm
cha_gen_skirm_cav
cha_gen_spear
cha_gen_sword
cha_lom_archers
cha_lom_artillery_dromon
cha_lom_axemen
cha_lom_castle_dromon_gastald_marines
cha_lom_clubmen
cha_lom_dromon_heavy_marines
cha_lom_dromon_light_boatmen
cha_lom_dromon_marines
cha_lom_gastald_cav
cha_lom_gastald_guardsmen
cha_lom_gastald_knights
cha_lom_gastald_swordsmen
cha_lom_guardsmen
cha_lom_horsemen
cha_lom_lancers
cha_lom_large_onager
cha_lom_levy
cha_lom_levy_archers
cha_lom_levy_axemen
cha_lom_levy_skirm
cha_lom_levy_spear
cha_lom_night_raiders
cha_lom_onager
cha_lom_raider_cav
cha_lom_skirm
cha_lom_spear
cha_lom_sword
cha_mus_andalusian_cav
cha_mus_andalusian_infantry
cha_mus_andalusian_skirm
cha_mus_andalusian_warriors
cha_mus_archers
cha_mus_armoured_archers
cha_mus_armoured_cav
cha_mus_artillery_dromon
cha_mus_berber_horsemen
cha_mus_berber_jinetes
cha_mus_berber_levy
cha_mus_berber_light_cav
cha_mus_berber_raiders
cha_mus_berber_spearmen
cha_mus_berber_warriors
cha_mus_castle_dromon_guard_marines
cha_mus_dromon_archer_marines
cha_mus_dromon_armoured_marines
cha_mus_dromonian_galley_andalusian_marines
cha_mus_dromonian_galley_archer_boatmen
cha_mus_large_onager
cha_mus_onager
cha_mus_slingers
cha_mus_umayyad_guard_cav
cha_mus_umayyad_guardsmen
cha_pap_guardsmen
cha_sax_archers
cha_sax_axe_band
cha_sax_axe_warriors
cha_sax_cav
cha_sax_dragonship_hearth_marines
cha_sax_hearth_cav
cha_sax_hearth_guard
cha_sax_javelinmen
cha_sax_levy_archers
cha_sax_levy_javelinmen
cha_sax_longship_boatmen
cha_sax_longship_heavy_boatmen
cha_sax_longship_light_raiders
cha_sax_longship_raiders
cha_sax_noble_javelinmen
cha_sax_onager
cha_sax_scout_cav
cha_sax_seax_band
cha_sax_seax_warriors
cha_sax_spear_band
cha_sax_spear_veterans
cha_sax_spear_warriors
cha_sax_sword_veterans
cha_sax_warhounds
cha_slav_ambushers
cha_slav_archers
cha_slav_champions
cha_slav_dragonship_elite_boatmen
cha_slav_large_shields
cha_slav_longship_boatmen
cha_slav_longship_light_boatmen
cha_slav_onager
cha_slav_raiders
cha_slav_royal_cav
cha_slav_skirm
cha_slav_spear
cha_slav_tribesmen
cha_slav_warriors
cha_spa_ambushers
cha_spa_iberian_cav
cha_spa_jinetes
cha_spa_noble_skirm
cha_spa_raider_cav
cha_spa_royal_cav
cha_spa_royal_guard_cavalry
cha_spa_royal_guardsmen
cha_spa_royal_knights
cha_spa_tribesmen
cha_vik_archers
cha_vik_armoured_archers
cha_vik_axe_freemen
cha_vik_axe_hirdmen
cha_vik_axemen
cha_vik_berserkers
cha_vik_big_axes
cha_vik_dragonship_housecarl
cha_vik_dragonship_warlords_companions
cha_vik_housecarls
cha_vik_hunters
cha_vik_levy_freemen
cha_vik_longship_heavy_raiders
cha_vik_longship_marauders
cha_vik_longship_raiders
cha_vik_longship_ship_archers
cha_vik_longship_smashers
cha_vik_onager
cha_vik_skirm
cha_vik_spear
cha_vik_sword_hirdmen
cha_vik_warlords_companions


Buildings

cha_bld_alcazar_1
cha_bld_alcazar_2
cha_bld_alcazar_3
cha_bld_barbarian_city_1
cha_bld_barbarian_city_2
cha_bld_barbarian_city_3
cha_bld_barbarian_ruin
cha_bld_barracks_1
cha_bld_barracks_2
cha_bld_barracks_3
cha_bld_barracks_mus_1
cha_bld_barracks_mus_2
cha_bld_barracks_mus_3
cha_bld_bimaristan_1
cha_bld_bimaristan_2
cha_bld_blacksmith_1
cha_bld_blacksmith_2
cha_bld_church_1
cha_bld_church_2
cha_bld_church_3
cha_bld_church_school_1
cha_bld_church_school_2
cha_bld_city_1
cha_bld_city_2
cha_bld_city_3
cha_bld_city_ruin
cha_bld_cloth_1
cha_bld_cloth_2
cha_bld_cloth_3
cha_bld_cloth_market_1
cha_bld_cloth_market_2
cha_bld_cloth_market_3
cha_bld_copper_1
cha_bld_copper_2
cha_bld_copper_3
cha_bld_council_1
cha_bld_council_2
cha_bld_council_3
cha_bld_court_1
cha_bld_court_2
cha_bld_court_3
cha_bld_court_council_1
cha_bld_court_council_2
cha_bld_court_council_3
cha_bld_craftsmen_1
cha_bld_craftsmen_2
cha_bld_craftsmen_3
cha_bld_estate_1
cha_bld_estate_2
cha_bld_estate_3
cha_bld_fields_1
cha_bld_fields_2
cha_bld_fields_3
cha_bld_fighter_1
cha_bld_fighter_2
cha_bld_food_market_1
cha_bld_food_market_2
cha_bld_food_market_3
cha_bld_garrison_1
cha_bld_garrison_2
cha_bld_garrison_3
cha_bld_gold_1
cha_bld_gold_2
cha_bld_gold_3
cha_bld_goldsmith_1
cha_bld_goldsmith_2
cha_bld_goldsmith_3
cha_bld_hall_elders_1
cha_bld_hall_elders_2
cha_bld_horse_show_1
cha_bld_horse_show_2
cha_bld_hospice_1
cha_bld_hospice_2
cha_bld_iron_1
cha_bld_iron_2
cha_bld_iron_3
cha_bld_lead_1
cha_bld_lead_2
cha_bld_lead_3
cha_bld_library_1
cha_bld_library_2
cha_bld_library_3
cha_bld_long_hall_1
cha_bld_long_hall_2
cha_bld_long_hall_3
cha_bld_madrasa_1
cha_bld_madrasa_2
cha_bld_manor_1
cha_bld_manor_2
cha_bld_manor_3
cha_bld_marble_1
cha_bld_marble_2
cha_bld_marble_3
cha_bld_market_town_1
cha_bld_market_town_2
cha_bld_market_town_3
cha_bld_market_town_mus_1
cha_bld_market_town_mus_2
cha_bld_market_town_mus_3
cha_bld_mead_hall_1
cha_bld_mead_hall_2
cha_bld_mead_hall_3
cha_bld_medina_1
cha_bld_medina_2
cha_bld_medina_3
cha_bld_mill_1
cha_bld_mill_2
cha_bld_mill_3
cha_bld_mine_1
cha_bld_mine_2
cha_bld_mine_3
cha_bld_minor_ruin
cha_bld_monastery_1
cha_bld_monastery_2
cha_bld_monastery_3
cha_bld_mosque_1
cha_bld_mosque_2
cha_bld_mosque_3
cha_bld_munya_1
cha_bld_munya_2
cha_bld_munya_3
cha_bld_muslim_minor_ruin
cha_bld_muslim_ruin
cha_bld_olive_1
cha_bld_olive_2
cha_bld_olive_3
cha_bld_paganism_1
cha_bld_paganism_2
cha_bld_paganism_3
cha_bld_paganism_4
cha_bld_port_fishing_1
cha_bld_port_fishing_2
cha_bld_port_military_1
cha_bld_port_military_2
cha_bld_port_ruin
cha_bld_port_trade_1
cha_bld_port_trade_2
cha_bld_race_track_1
cha_bld_race_track_2
cha_bld_salt_1
cha_bld_salt_2
cha_bld_salt_3
cha_bld_scriptorium_1
cha_bld_scriptorium_2
cha_bld_scriptorium_3
cha_bld_siege_workshop_1
cha_bld_siege_workshop_2
cha_bld_tavern_1
cha_bld_tavern_2
cha_bld_tavern_3
cha_bld_tengrism_1
cha_bld_tengrism_2
cha_bld_tengrism_3
cha_bld_trader_1
cha_bld_trader_2
cha_bld_trader_3
cha_bld_trader_mus_1
cha_bld_trader_mus_2
cha_bld_trader_mus_3
cha_bld_treasury_1
cha_bld_treasury_2
cha_bld_treasury_3
cha_bld_wine_1
cha_bld_wine_2
cha_bld_wine_3
cha_bld_wine_market_1
cha_bld_wine_market_2
cha_bld_wine_market_3
cha_bld_wood_1
cha_bld_wood_2
cha_bld_wood_3


Regions

cha_reg_al_andalus_almeria
cha_reg_al_andalus_cordoba
cha_reg_al_andalus_jaen
cha_reg_alemannia_basel
cha_reg_alemannia_chur
cha_reg_alemannia_konstanz
cha_reg_angria_buraburg
cha_reg_angria_erfurt
cha_reg_angria_paderborn
cha_reg_austrasia_aachen
cha_reg_austrasia_metz
cha_reg_austrasia_trier
cha_reg_bavaria_augsburg
cha_reg_bavaria_passau
cha_reg_bavaria_regensburg
cha_reg_benevento_bari
cha_reg_benevento_benevento
cha_reg_benevento_salerno
cha_reg_bohemia_dresden
cha_reg_bohemia_iglau
cha_reg_bohemia_praha
cha_reg_brittany_quimper
cha_reg_brittany_st_malo
cha_reg_brittany_vannes
cha_reg_burgundy_geneve
cha_reg_burgundy_grenoble
cha_reg_burgundy_lyon
cha_reg_calabria_kroton
cha_reg_calabria_region
cha_reg_calabria_taranto
cha_reg_carinthia_lorch
cha_reg_carinthia_salzburg
cha_reg_carinthia_wien
cha_reg_croatia_jadra
cha_reg_croatia_ptuj
cha_reg_croatia_sisak
cha_reg_east_aquitaine_arvernis
cha_reg_east_aquitaine_autun
cha_reg_east_aquitaine_rodez
cha_reg_east_neustria_amiens
cha_reg_east_neustria_reims
cha_reg_east_neustria_troyes
cha_reg_eastphalia_halberstadt
cha_reg_eastphalia_hildesheim
cha_reg_eastphalia_magdeburg
cha_reg_exarchate_ancona
cha_reg_exarchate_bologna
cha_reg_exarchate_ravenna
cha_reg_france_chatres
cha_reg_france_paris
cha_reg_france_tours
cha_reg_franconia_frankfurt
cha_reg_franconia_hallstadt
cha_reg_franconia_wurzburg
cha_reg_frisia_boulogne
cha_reg_frisia_ghent
cha_reg_frisia_utrecht
cha_reg_friuli_aquileia
cha_reg_friuli_venezia
cha_reg_friuli_verona
cha_reg_gallicia_lugo
cha_reg_gallicia_oviedo
cha_reg_gallicia_santiago
cha_reg_gascony_agen
cha_reg_gascony_bayonne
cha_reg_gascony_bordeaux
cha_reg_gharb_al_anadalus_beja
cha_reg_gharb_al_anadalus_cadiz
cha_reg_gharb_al_anadalus_seville
cha_reg_jutland_aarhus
cha_reg_jutland_hedeby
cha_reg_jutland_ribe
cha_reg_leon_leon
cha_reg_leon_santander
cha_reg_leon_valladoid
cha_reg_lombardy_genova
cha_reg_lombardy_pavia
cha_reg_lombardy_pisa
cha_reg_marca_hispanica_barcelona
cha_reg_marca_hispanica_girona
cha_reg_marca_hispanica_tarragona
cha_reg_marca_inferior_braga
cha_reg_marca_inferior_coimbra
cha_reg_marca_inferior_lisbon
cha_reg_marca_media_caceres
cha_reg_marca_media_merida
cha_reg_marca_media_salamanca
cha_reg_mercia_chester
cha_reg_mercia_lichfield
cha_reg_mercia_lincoln
cha_reg_moravia_mosaburg
cha_reg_moravia_nitra
cha_reg_moravia_savaria
cha_reg_munster_cashel
cha_reg_munster_cork
cha_reg_munster_dublin
cha_reg_navarre_pamplona
cha_reg_navarre_saragossa
cha_reg_navarre_tudela
cha_reg_northumbria_bamburgh
cha_reg_northumbria_streonshalh
cha_reg_northumbria_york
cha_reg_obodrites_havelberg
cha_reg_obodrites_rerik
cha_reg_obodrites_stargard
cha_reg_pannonia_cibakhaza
cha_reg_pannonia_kaposvar
cha_reg_pannonia_szeged
cha_reg_pictland_dumbarton
cha_reg_pictland_rhynie
cha_reg_pictland_scone
cha_reg_provence_arles
cha_reg_provence_marseille
cha_reg_provence_nice
cha_reg_rome_roma
cha_reg_rome_siena
cha_reg_rome_spoleto
cha_reg_sardinia_and_corsica_ajaccio
cha_reg_sardinia_and_corsica_cagliari
cha_reg_sardinia_and_corsica_olbia
cha_reg_saxony_bremen
cha_reg_saxony_hamburg
cha_reg_saxony_osnabruck
cha_reg_septimania_narbonne
cha_reg_septimania_toulouse
cha_reg_septimania_urgell
cha_reg_sicilia_akragas
cha_reg_sicilia_panormos
cha_reg_sicilia_syracuse
cha_reg_swabia_bescanon
cha_reg_swabia_speyer
cha_reg_swabia_strasbourg
cha_reg_terra_incognita
cha_reg_toledo_calatrava
cha_reg_toledo_guadalajara
cha_reg_toledo_toledo
cha_reg_ulster_cruachan
cha_reg_ulster_downpatrick
cha_reg_ulster_grinan_of_ailech
cha_reg_valencia_cartagena
cha_reg_valencia_palma
cha_reg_valencia_valencia
cha_reg_wales_caerwent
cha_reg_wales_degannwy
cha_reg_wales_mathrafal
cha_reg_wessex_canterbury
cha_reg_wessex_london
cha_reg_wessex_winchester
cha_reg_west_aquitaine_angouleme
cha_reg_west_aquitaine_bourges
cha_reg_west_aquitaine_poitiers
cha_reg_west_neustria_bayeux
cha_reg_west_neustria_nantes
cha_reg_west_neustria_rennes
cha_reg_wilzi_brandenburg
cha_reg_wilzi_cottbus
cha_reg_wilzi_lipsk
cha_sea_adriatic_sea
cha_sea_alboran_sea
cha_sea_atlantic_ocean
cha_sea_balearic_sea
cha_sea_baltic_sea
cha_sea_bay_of_biscay
cha_sea_celtic_sea
cha_sea_gulf_of_lion
cha_sea_ionian_sea
cha_sea_irish_sea
cha_sea_lake
cha_sea_ligurian_sea
cha_sea_mare_incognita
cha_sea_mediterranean_sea
cha_sea_north_sea
cha_sea_south_sea
cha_sea_straight_of_gibraltar
cha_sea_tyrrhenian_sea


Religions

cha_rel_christianity
cha_rel_islam
cha_rel_judaism
cha_rel_paganism
cha_rel_tengrism


Technology

cha_barb_civil_craft_specialisation
cha_barb_civil_exchange_expertise
cha_barb_civil_feudalism
cha_barb_civil_gatherings
cha_barb_civil_irrigation_techniques
cha_barb_civil_judicial_power
cha_barb_civil_kings_court
cha_barb_civil_land_grants
cha_barb_civil_local_traditions
cha_barb_civil_master_craftsmen
cha_barb_civil_money_control
cha_barb_civil_new_aristocracy
cha_barb_civil_pagan_rituals
cha_barb_civil_royal_council
cha_barb_civil_royal_minting
cha_barb_civil_sacred_king
cha_barb_civil_serfdom
cha_barb_civil_tithes
cha_barb_civil_trade_goods
cha_barb_civil_trade_hubs
cha_barb_civil_trade_rights
cha_barb_civil_tribal_knowledge
cha_barb_civil_warlords_power
cha_barb_civil_water_power
cha_barb_military_battle_experience
cha_barb_military_battlefield_medicine
cha_barb_military_call_arms
cha_barb_military_call_vassals
cha_barb_military_campaign_planning
cha_barb_military_conquerors
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[Hooahguy]

Looks interesting. Any idea what it could be about?

[Crandar]

Looks interesting. Any idea what it could be about?
It concerns Charlemagne, the starting date is 768 AD and the map includes the entire Western Europe, from Scotland to Sicily and from Morocco to Denmark.

[Cazbol]

Hell, yes. They can just shut up and take my money.

[Hooahguy]

It concerns Charlemagne, the starting date is 768 AD and the map includes the entire Western Europe, from Scotland to Sicily and from Morocco to Denmark.
Ah, didnt see the first line of your topic. Sounds intriguing! Would be cool to have an expansionist campaign rather than a defensive one at least from my understanding anyways.

[Myth]

As one of my all time favorite historical figures, I'm getting this for sure. Loved the CKII expansion about him too.

[Veho Nex]

I love how people scour the code for an update and a leak

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

No ERE to reclaim the lost provinces.

I will continue playing Crusader Kings II.

I'm sorry but some on, just give us the whole freaking map like you did with Barbarian Invasion and the original RTW.

Edit: This also means they're skipping over the Muslim Conquests, I think that's a real shame. I understand why you wouldn't depict Muhammed himself in the game but the Conquest Train out of Arabia only got going really after his death and that seems to me a period ripe for Total War with the new upstart Empire and the two Ailing Behemoths in Rome and Sassania.

[lars573]

Thing is that prohibition on depicting the prophet applies to some members of his family. Any of the first few Caliph's fall under the ban on depictions. A movie from the 60's about Mohamed had to use his uncle (who's relation was by marriage not blood) as the character they could show on screen.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Thing is that prohibition on depicting the prophet applies to some members of his family. Any of the first few Caliph's fall under the ban on depictions. A movie from the 60's about Mohamed had to use his uncle (who's relation was by marriage not blood) as the character they could show on screen.

And yet, we can depict the Huns as basically blood-drinking barbarians who do nothing that burn and kill until a European faction wipes them out. The depiction of Attila and his CONSTANT battering of the Romans is something of a joke as is his habit of laying waste to all around him.

I suppose that's because all the Huns are dead, so it's OK.

[dge1]

I love how people scour the code for an update and a leak

:laugh4:

Interesting DLC if true.

[Hooahguy]

Seems like the new DLC will be announced tomorrow. (https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/668813919457251330)

[Hooahguy]

Yup, its Charlemagne.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOy63UZXvM


A new age has arrived, and Charlemagne’s rule is about to begin!We’re excited to announce the new DLC for Total War: ATTILA – Age of Charlemagne.
The Age of Charlemagne Campaign Pack is an epic expansion for Total War: ATTILA; set in the Middle Ages, long after Attila’s reign has ended and as one of the greatest kings in history endeavours to bring peace to the continent… by whatever means necessary.
In our largest Total War: ATTILA expansion to date, a brand new campaign map resplendent in medieval-style artwork focuses on Europe from the year 768 AD. With the introduction of Knights, Housecarls and other new era units, battlefield conflict takes an iconic turn, along with over 50 conquerable provinces, new campaign mechanics and a detailed and vibrant geopolitical starting position.
Opportunity presents itself in tying together vast new kingdoms; powerful new states that can be marshalled under a banner of civilisation drawn from ashes.
Total War: ATTILA - Age of Charlemagne is out on 10th December and is available to pre-order today from 6pm GMT on Steam. And all Total War: ATTILA owners can also expect some exciting Free-LC news coming soon…

[easytarget]

Cool! Bring it on I say! I love the idea of creeping our way into the middle ages once again....

[Cazbol]

Excellent. I shall eagerly await the 10th.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

"Focusing on Europe"

That begs the question of whether the only Muslims will be in Iberia. I feel we're only getting part of a game if you don't give us the Grand Campaign Map - and as yet I can find no map.

so no Caliphate, no Byzantine Empire and no Africa?

I'm not all that excited.

Edit:

Map on the Total War forums: https://www.instagram.com/p/-eMqe6L22P/

Much sadness.

[Hooahguy]

The constrained campaign map is of much dismay for me. Maybe Ill get it when its on sale.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Indeed.

What is Charlemagne without an Eastern Emperor to measure himself against? Without an Empress Irene he might marry?

Looking at that map I'm wondering if the ERE will be the new Huns, it's hard to see how you can have almost all of Greece there and not have it spawn Cataphract Doomstacks.

The same holds for that big chuck of Scandinavia.

On the official forums they're saying they don't want it to be the case that the Saxons have only one settlement given that Charlemagne battled them for decades but it strikes me that the Saxons were plenty trouble with one settlement in the Grand Campaign.

Strikes me having a map like this eliminates a lot of potential factions, leading to large nations where the player has to repeatedly fight the same faction with the same units, like in the Last Roman, which I confess I lost interest in once I realised the only factions with substantial new rosters were the Ostragothic Kindom and the Romans - the Vandal and Visigoth Kingdoms aren't even available in multiplayer because, with a few token exceptions, they're the same as the main Attila factions.

Meanwhile, all the Iranian Nobles are stuck in a faction group with the Mongols in the Grand Campaign.

[Myth]

I'll wait intull Attila is at 75% and get this along with it.

[Cazbol]

Pre-ordered.

[edyzmedieval]

Definitely looking forward to this. A bit of medieval feel to Attila... :knight:

[easytarget]

I am too as I suspect this will only help the work already underway on creating a medieval mod started w/ R2 and now being done in Attila.

[Kamakazi]

I find the intro video underwhelming and I generally hate anything French. I might get this when it goes on sale though... I'm more of a GC person anyway.

[Sp4]

This looks pretty cool. Charlemange is a bit of a favourite historical figure of mine. I'll probably get it.

Atm, I am loving the last Roman (also I was weak and bought the game and all)

[Crandar]

Free DLC revealed, an overhaul of the Alani roster and the Hepthalites. Perhaps, they could stop the Sassanids from steamrolling everything on their path:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlB-sZ3h5eM

[easytarget]

It would have been nice if they announced they were tweaking the Sassanids, escapes my understanding how CA made Attila w/o play testing it even once, which is all it would take no matter who you played as to uncover the OP nature of these guys.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Yikes, look at those Alanai Cataphracts, also the odd Alani cavalry with 0 charge bonus, that almost seems like a bug. Overall it's nice to see the Alani becoming a proper Sarmation faction, though. It's dissapointing that the Roxolani haven't been shifted into the Sarmation group with the Alani, though.

Now, the White Huns.

Whilst I applaud sticking a knife in the Sassanids' collective backs I think the armour on some of those units is just absurd for a faction like that. Given that many of the units in the western half of the map are just wearing mail it seems bizare the extent to which some Eastern units are just over armoured.

The commentator describes an armour rating of 62 as "decent" but there are very few units with that armour rating outside of top tear elite infantry and the Yanda Spear Masters have a rating of 77, which is not "really good for the Huns" so must as really good for super-heavy cataphracts.

[Cazbol]

I find it quite interesting how everyone's experience of the Sassanids is that they're overpowered and roll all over their neighbours. In my campaign, the Eastern Roman Empire totally kept them in check.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

It's not so much that they always run rampant, it's more that if the ERE is occupied they can cripple the Romans before the Romans can respond.

[Crandar]

Yikes, look at those Alanai Cataphracts, also the odd Alani cavalry with 0 charge bonus, that almost seems like a bug. Overall it's nice to see the Alani becoming a proper Sarmation faction, though. It's dissapointing that the Roxolani haven't been shifted into the Sarmation group with the Alani, though.
It's not a bug, it's intended.

This unit is supposed to be terrible at charging and at fighting against infantry, but excellent at fighting against cavalry.

CA is overdoing it, trying to complicate the rock-scissor-paper tactic. Cavalry was divided into light and heavy, not into light, shock, heavy or anti-cavalry.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

It's not a bug, it's intended.

This unit is supposed to be terrible at charging and at fighting against infantry, but excellent at fighting against cavalry.

CA is overdoing it, trying to complicate the rock-scissor-paper tactic. Cavalry was divided into light and heavy, not into light, shock, heavy or anti-cavalry.

I dissagree somewhat - in that there definately was a distinction between shock cavalry and melee cavalry. it's just that the shock cav in Attila seem to use their lances - stat wise - rather than their swords in melee

[easytarget]

So far, only couple hours of play time, but I'm liking it so far. I enjoy the time period of course that helps immensely. But this so far is turning out just as I expected, another DLC campaign that's more fun than the GC, just like my experiences w/ R2.

Anyway, once I get further along in the campaign I'll come back and say more. Having fun w/ it.

[Cazbol]

I've played quite a bit and I love it. One thing that really made me cheer, right at faction selection, was the discovery that they've gone back to making sensible victory conditions. Gone are the obsessive compulsive lists of random things. Instead we have victory conditions depending on imperium and region controlled. I love it.

The campaign also plays well and I like the medieval art style for unit cards and building.

[Hooahguy]

The positive reactions to the DLC is making it very hard not to get it.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The positive reactions to the DLC is making it very hard not to get it.

I'm finding it fairly easy - I just load up CKII and look at their map.

The fact that the campaign plays well in the beginning is hardly surprising, the Attila engine is robust and the starting situation should be well fleshed out.

See what people are saying in a month though when they've played a Denmark unable to invade Norway or "wiped out" whatever passes for the ERE in the campaign.

[easytarget]

Played a couple more hours today, still really having a blast. Caught in engagements in both the sound and north of the kingdom and doing a pretty lousy job so far of hanging on to provinces. Lost two in the last year in the north. I'm finding the travel time feels longer to get places and I'm often finding myself out of position, and those pesky raiding parties are always just out of reach.

Immensely entertaining thus far.

[Cazbol]

Played a couple more hours today, still really having a blast. Caught in engagements in both the sound and north of the kingdom and doing a pretty lousy job so far of hanging on to provinces. Lost two in the last year in the north. I'm finding the travel time feels longer to get places and I'm often finding myself out of position, and those pesky raiding parties are always just out of reach.

Immensely entertaining thus far.

It sounds like you're playing the Franks, like I am. Is that the case?

[Sp4]

Played a couple more hours today, still really having a blast. Caught in engagements in both the sound and north of the kingdom and doing a pretty lousy job so far of hanging on to provinces. Lost two in the last year in the north. I'm finding the travel time feels longer to get places and I'm often finding myself out of position, and those pesky raiding parties are always just out of reach.

Immensely entertaining thus far.

Travel times do feel very long. I have recently 'gotten involved' in the European mainland and sometimes moving armies about is painful but not necessarily in a bad way :P

[Slaists]

I've played quite a bit and I love it. One thing that really made me cheer, right at faction selection, was the discovery that they've gone back to making sensible victory conditions. Gone are the obsessive compulsive lists of random things. Instead we have victory conditions depending on imperium and region controlled. I love it.

The campaign also plays well and I like the medieval art style for unit cards and building.

The only thing is: that imperium jumps up very fast and even without doing much. I'm playing as Cordoba on very hard and I am at maximum imperium within a couple decades from starting the campaign. The only thing that keeps me from getting the highest level of winning conditions is the region count.

[easytarget]

It sounds like you're playing the Franks, like I am. Is that the case?

Yep, figured I might as well start with the guy the DLC is named after, haha. I've been having a time of it being attacked from two fronts, lost some provinces in the north, had to pull together a proper army to handle and I'm in the process of getting them back. Not sure what I'll do next, I could continue to expand north and build a better scaled empire, I told Pope I'd come remove the Lombards but I've gotten so detained with this business in the north I don't think I'll make the deadline, guess I'll find out how much that pisses off the Pope, haha. Sooner or later I'll also need to reunite the Kingdom...

I'm enjoying this one a lot in other words. ;)

[easytarget]

Travel times do feel very long. I have recently 'gotten involved' in the European mainland and sometimes moving armies about is painful but not necessarily in a bad way :P

Yeah, as my generals get stars I'm using some of them to put in some points into how far they can travel on strategic map, that's helping. I think somehow despite the fact that it's slower that it feels still kind of right, and I enjoy seeing all the activity on the map, makes the place feel more alive, exactly the reason I prefer DLCs because they're smaller and more focused.

I'm not totally in sync yet on the politics, I've had some guys nearly go rogue on me and I'm not sure exactly how to handle the balance on power or how to increase it, have to sort that, rather like that it's in play here once again though, something else to handle that increases immersion, had my best general show up on a pop up warning me he was about to rebel when he hit one, had to fix that but quick.

[easytarget]

One further comment from my hour or so with the game tonight, I like the little design touch in the research section where the choices are faded before they are researched and become vibrantly colorful like stain glass when you've researched them, I appreciate small things like that a great deal.

[Sp4]

Yeah, as my generals get stars I'm using some of them to put in some points into how far they can travel on strategic map, that's helping. I think somehow despite the fact that it's slower that it feels still kind of right, and I enjoy seeing all the activity on the map, makes the place feel more alive, exactly the reason I prefer DLCs because they're smaller and more focused.

I'm not totally in sync yet on the politics, I've had some guys nearly go rogue on me and I'm not sure exactly how to handle the balance on power or how to increase it, have to sort that, rather like that it's in play here once again though, something else to handle that increases immersion, had my best general show up on a pop up warning me he was about to rebel when he hit one, had to fix that but quick.

I don't like the way the skill trees work but I haven't liked them since they came up with them :p It all feels kind of forced and the gathering of good and bad traits is kind of arbitrary.

[easytarget]

Agree on the traits, the skill tree I'm fine with.

[Slaists]

I don't like the way the skill trees work but I haven't liked them since they came up with them :p It all feels kind of forced and the gathering of good and bad traits is kind of arbitrary.

Which traits you speaking of as arbitrary? They seem rather consistent to me now. Not that I like them or that they'd make intuitive sense.

As a general principle: entering a settlement with an army while the settlement has negative PO is a bad idea as it has a high chance of giving your general the "unfavored trait" (which has 2 more levels with progressively worsening effects). Entering a settlement with +100% PO is a great idea (in the game terms though) as it is likely (about 1 in 10 chance) to give your general the "favored" trait which has nice effects. Go figure...

Governing a province what has 100% PO is considered a bad style (even if it is the richest province of your with loads of construction going on) as your governor is likely to become a "procrastinator" and getting worse from there. If you managed to pull the governor out the turn he gets the "procrastinator" trait and send him into a battle the next turn, he is very likely to lose the negative trait though.

As to the leader: never use hostages as replenishment or kill hostages (with any of your armies). Always ransom them. This ensures that the leader does not become "harsh".

[easytarget]

I just finished a short campaign as Charlemagne, interestingly I suppose I could still continue on for additional victories off the last save given that it's now a question primarily of imperium (although I suppose there is also a province count on the next two).

Anyway, I enjoyed it immensely. Just love the time frame and the region, thinking about going in again as Westphalia or Kingdom of Mercia perhaps once I knock out some other indie games awaiting my attention (Renowned Explorers being the one I started today someone gifted me, quite a smart little game).

So, the recent tradition at least for my tastes of enjoying the DLCs more than the GC continues, and I'm just fine with that. :bow:

[Cazbol]

I'm curious, what came out of that papal mission against the Lombards?

[easytarget]

It was fairly early in the campaign when that one landed in my lap and I was tied up in the north with only 30 turns to complete it, I can't recall if the mission was just to engage them in war or wipe them out, but either way it didn't matter as they were a long ways off with at least one or two Kingdoms/Duchies/what have you between me and them.

As a result of not abiding by it I got a serious diplomacy hit from the Pope, but since it didn't result in excommunication I didn't much care. If however it had been excommunication I would probably have taken far more notice of it because at the time I was playing nice with my brother anticipating he would eventually drop dead, at which point we'd start things up in earnest with uniting the kingdom, if I'd been excommunicated I'm pretty sure we'd of ended up immediately at war.

[Cazbol]

I asked about the papal mission because when I accepted it, all hell broke loose. I immediately found myself at war with the Lombards, who ploughed through my brother's kingdom to get to me. The Lombards were joined by minor allies, who also met with immediate success against Carloman. My brother's kingdom is on the verge of a collapse and I'm stretched to my limits trying to turn the tide. The excellence of this campaign continues.

[easytarget]

Oh, that's interesting, I sort of rather like that scripted event even more then. I actually was ok if I'd been excommunicated, I would have considered it harsh since it was merely a request to go after the Lombards, but then I could see the case being made a request from the Pope at this time was not really a request so much as an order that had to be obeyed. That's kind of cool they plowed through the brother's kingdom because it saves you the trouble of waiting for him to die (well, don't suppose you actually have to wait, but I did because I was busy up north). I'm glad I waited on him dying too, it gave me like four options, I forget them all, but I took the pay off those who wanted to unite the Kingdom under me and for 8k i was given 2/3's of his Kingdom and the rest stayed military alliance. No muss, no fuss. Pretty cool.

I like what you've got going on though as well, because it's probably fairly tense, what you've got going on is why I sort of just sat tight at the outset and fought minor wars folks in the North and North-East. I still had some in the south and southwest who were taking provinces from me as well, made for an interesting two front war, not something I tend to want happen in a TW campaign, but here it was more or less inevitable.

I've liked this one quite a lot. Btw, on several occasions, no doubt due to my own incompetence, I nearly had generals and/or governors rebel on me, and my power was so low I often looked to be about to have the whole thing go off a cliff and I took serious penalties for it pretty much the entire campaign. Fortunately I fixed up the provinces well enough that they generated more than enough money for me to grease the wheels whenever needed. I still don't think I've got the hang of this family tree business, but I do love it's there to fiddle with, gives me something else that pulls me into the campaign.

[Sp4]

The only thing is: that imperium jumps up very fast and even without doing much. I'm playing as Cordoba on very hard and I am at maximum imperium within a couple decades from starting the campaign. The only thing that keeps me from getting the highest level of winning conditions is the region count.

How do you deal with the corruption penalty?

I recently went to fight a war against number 1 on the strength ranking (I was number 2) and took over a bunch of their regions and hoooooleee shit, I had to literally stop all of my armies and disband half of them and use the rest as garrison forces to stop myself from going bankrupt from corruption. This happened in the space of 8 turns from a situation where I was getting 5k/turn on very low tax setting.

Now I am at -2k on very high taxes =x

[Sp4]

Which traits you speaking of as arbitrary? They seem rather consistent to me now. Not that I like them or that they'd make intuitive sense.

As a general principle: entering a settlement with an army while the settlement has negative PO is a bad idea as it has a high chance of giving your general the "unfavored trait" (which has 2 more levels with progressively worsening effects). Entering a settlement with +100% PO is a great idea (in the game terms though) as it is likely (about 1 in 10 chance) to give your general the "favored" trait which has nice effects. Go figure...

Governing a province what has 100% PO is considered a bad style (even if it is the richest province of your with loads of construction going on) as your governor is likely to become a "procrastinator" and getting worse from there. If you managed to pull the governor out the turn he gets the "procrastinator" trait and send him into a battle the next turn, he is very likely to lose the negative trait though.

As to the leader: never use hostages as replenishment or kill hostages (with any of your armies). Always ransom them. This ensures that the leader does not become "harsh".

Whaa, so all the things I am doing automatically are terrible! :D

There comes a point when you have so many generals and people to worry about and cities and armies that you just stop caring, especially because you don't really need that many good generals. As long as the governors don't end up with traits that reduce the money making potential of a province, I don't care.
As soon as they do, they earn themselves a first class, air delivery to 'somewhere on the frontline' :D

On that note, has anyone seen the family tree break yet?

Invisible family members, family members that are treated as 'other nobles' (which I can even understand if they're totally unrelated bastards, though wasn't the idea of a family tree to give you all the related characters at a glance?) and perhaps the most annoying thing: Duplicate family members.
Every now and then, a family member will show up twice in the family tree and this seems to happen if you somehow manage to marry a woman and a man from your family. You then get two branches, one for the woman and one for the man (although this does not happen all the time).

Also: In my current Kingdom of Mercia campaign, I managed to wed my king with one of his sisters (she was an awesome wife and gave him so many influence bonuses that everything that said 'wrong' in me was silenced ;P)
I did this (unintentionally at first) by marrying the sister off to a king of a different faction and then asking for her back after that king died somehow (open diplomacy, arrange marriage, choose wife, click accept ^^)
Suddenly, my king was married to his sister and nobody cared :D

Also, Frankish kings seem to be growing really old. This is the third one this campaign who has been over 100 years old: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/359525062624941905/B5C49B65D8E4470EC4CC7F51F107C96964013F9E/

[ReluctantSamurai]

Also, Frankish kings seem to be growing really old. This is the third one this campaign who has been over 100 years old

Doesn't look to be a day over 45:rolleyes: For gods sake, at least give the man a grey beard:shrug: Details...details...details...

[easytarget]

and perhaps the most annoying thing: Duplicate family members.
Every now and then, a family member will show up twice in the family tree and this seems to happen if you somehow manage to marry a woman and a man from your family. You then get two branches, one for the woman and one for the man (although this does not happen all the time).

You know I've seen the same name show up in other nobles and/or my family and was wondering why that was, I just thought it was CA being lazy in how many names they allocated so once the size of both was large enough names repeated.

[Sp4]

You know I've seen the same name show up in other nobles and/or my family and was wondering why that was, I just thought it was CA being lazy in how many names they allocated so once the size of both was large enough names repeated.

Not the same name (this happens a lot as well but meh) but literally the same character, where if you select one portrait, it selects two at the same time. I'll get a screenshot later. Also merry christmas ^^

Here it is, the 8 characters in the center are the same characaters, twice and I think the reason why this is is because of my previously described case of incest, where the portrait of the son is generated twice, once for the mother, who is originally from my family and the father, who is too.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/359525062626629186/F8C8CE4AAF70CD28102E28335683365F84D264EE/

[easytarget]

Oh, that is odd. Guess I've not had that specific instance come up, I thought it was odd enough I've got guys using the same name, which struck me as sloppy and/or lazy.

And Merry Christmas to you too, and the whole gang here at the Org!

Think I might fire up a new AoC campaign myself, I could press on in the current campaign for additional victories, but think it would be more interesting to play a new one as some one else.

[Sp4]

I finished a Mercian campaign now. It is probably the simplest of them all, kind of like England in M2, with an easy starting location from which you can pretty much launch conquests anywhere and be relatively safe, even if everything goes south.

My biggest enemy in this campaign was the massive corruption that sets in, once you have a certain number of settlements. I didn't win the campaign by conquest either but just bought military allies, until I "controlled" 110 settlements.
I had about 60 or so myself and the rest came from 5 different allies and client kingdoms.

I want to do a Danish campaign or maybe a CoC one next or maybe I will just dive in an see if I can do a Carolingian one, although this whole rescuing empires that are about to collapse has never been my thing.

[easytarget]

Even though it might be simple, I was thinking about playing them (mercian) next just myself just because I liked the idea of playing the guys closest to being England. I likely won't go for the long campaign win like you did, so corruption won't be a problem, not sure why but lately I just don't have the patience to get to 110 settlements even using alliances to do it. Always got other stuff to play this time of year thanks to steam sales.

[Vladimir Rurikovich]

VERY INTERESTING find guys! I was just wondering... I've owned all of the Total War titles except the last two (Rome II and Shogun II) because of the lack of tech support and care for ETW and NTW... I would really like to get back into the game though, as I heavily modded ETW and NTW to make it more fun (for my personal use). Now that I've gone back to school to earn my degree in Computer Science with a concentration in Programming, I was curious what program people are using to unpack and mod the files for Attila? I like to mod the units values (mostly their size, damage done, defense, etc at least for Empire and Napoleon), change some textures, even add new units etc... This looks like a great Database GUI... It looks like it is a regular GIDE one would build with C# or VB... May I ask where I could download it so I can start my modding? Thanks!

Sincerely,
Crown Prince Vladimir

[easytarget]

Sorry can't be of much help on the modding front, never done that myself, but hopefully someone who is familiar with it will be along shortly and respond!

[lars573]

How do you deal with the corruption penalty?

I recently went to fight a war against number 1 on the strength ranking (I was number 2) and took over a bunch of their regions and hoooooleee shit, I had to literally stop all of my armies and disband half of them and use the rest as garrison forces to stop myself from going bankrupt from corruption. This happened in the space of 8 turns from a situation where I was getting 5k/turn on very low tax setting.

Now I am at -2k on very high taxes =x
If only there was an entire building line who's sole purpose is to reduce corruption. ~;p

[Slaists]

If only there was an entire building line who's sole purpose is to reduce corruption. ~;p

Yeah, unless he's playing as Danes.

Otherwise, with that building chain Lars mentions, it is possible to have low teens corruption in most interior provinces of large empires (around 100 regions in my case).

[Sp4]

You just stack them? I was trying to put hospital, palace, trade city trios in such a way that everyone was getting all the benefits but I was still getting -88% through corruption in some provices, that was before any governours. I guess without the palaces, those cities would be at 100%, maybe even 110% =P Maybe they would have started costing me money...

A region that goes from making 6000 per turn went to making less than 500 over the course of 8 turns, without any change to the buildings in it or the surrounding provinces whatsoever.

[lars573]

I suspect your governor(s) was getting some bad results on bad trait checks. That plus an event that hampers income/food production could easily explain your problems.

And you can't stack buildings in one city. But most of them affect surrounding provinces too.

[Slaists]

You just stack them? I was trying to put hospital, palace, trade city trios in such a way that everyone was getting all the benefits but I was still getting -88% through corruption in some provices, that was before any governours. I guess without the palaces, those cities would be at 100%, maybe even 110% =P Maybe they would have started costing me money...

A region that goes from making 6000 per turn went to making less than 500 over the course of 8 turns, without any change to the buildings in it or the surrounding provinces whatsoever.

I build the level 3 anti-corruption buildings and mints in every province I have. The thing is, I do not leave city centers as royal palaces (or whatever the equivalent for the faction you're playing with) after I have upgraded corruption buildings and mints to level 3. I transform city centers into trade cities or religious centers depending on the province makeup (resources, fertility, etc.).

So, in the middle of my empire, provinces get corruption in teens/twenties even when I have a considerable empire size. Some of the middle provinces are bordered by 4-5 other provinces so you get 6 [adding the home province's anti-corruption building] x -15% = -90% corruption in those best locales.

The edges of the empire and coastal provinces with few neighbors are the worst since they get the benefit of only a couple/sometimes 1 neighbor's anti-corruption building. And example of a 1-neighbor province is the host province of Brittany: a perfect place for a military province since once you grow, you won't be able to reduce corruption significantly there.

This means though, that if you want to avoid corruption, you cannot expand very fast. You need high level civic tech for level 3 courts and mints.