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Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
03-21-2016, 23:22
So, Iain Duncan Smith, lately Work and Pensions Secretary has resigned, called the government deeply unfair and criticised the slimy Chancellor for cutting benefits and taxes on the rich.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35861021

Oh - and Jeremy Corbyn failed to attack the Prime Minister for it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/12200225/Jeremy-Corbyn-has-David-Cameron-on-the-ropes...-then-punches-himself-in-the-face.html

Currently David Cameron is standing by his no.2 but Osborne is looking increasingly like he's had it, the Tories are tearing at each other and at the very least Osborne will never be PM.

This upset the to Apple Cart may mean Dave serves a full second term, or it may mean we get Boris as PM. Either is preferable to George Osborne.

Greyblades
03-22-2016, 04:21
Iain Duncan Smith quits over planned disability benefit changes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35848687)

Seems somewhat out of character for scrooge and hitler's hypothetical retarded transgender manchild offspring that the Huffington Post seems to believe he is.

Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-22-2016, 06:22
Iain Duncan Smith quits over planned disability benefit changes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35848687)

Seems somewhat out of character for scrooge and hitler's hypothetical retarded transgender manchild offspring that the Huffington Post seems to believe he is.

Well...as another Tory minister pointed out, it all seems a bit strange when the other major cuts were IDS's own policies. Where has this conscience come from? The reasons he gave for resigning aren't, I think, his real motivation....internal party politics playing out.

Beskar
03-22-2016, 08:12
Jeremy delivered a stinger in an interview the other day, but he wasn't going for the political tic tac low blows, Jeremy sees himself better than that. Besides, IDS is responsible for some of the worst cuts himself, he is trying to ruin Osbourne so the euroseptics can do a leader challenge and put Boris at the helm.

Brenus
03-22-2016, 08:17
:laugh4:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iain-duncan-smith-resignation-jeremy-corbyn-calls-for-george-osborne-to-go-as-well-over-disability-a6940551.html
Now, if you wait for the Telegraph to know something genuine about Corbyn, you are reading the wrong newspaper...:laugh4:

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
03-22-2016, 10:44
Jeremy delivered a stinger in an interview the other day, but he wasn't going for the political tic tac low blows, Jeremy sees himself better than that. Besides, IDS is responsible for some of the worst cuts himself, he is trying to ruin Osbourne so the euroseptics can do a leader challenge and put Boris at the helm.

You mean he's not capable of holding the government to account. As others have pointed out, this seems a little odd given that IDS has backed other cuts, and sent out another letter attempting to defend these cuts shortly before he resigned. Major resignations have a national impact, and shock resignations suggest there's something wrong in the cabinet, that shouldn't pass without comment in the Commons.

However, it's worth pointing out that this ISN'T the first time IDS has voiced disquiet and we should no assume that his stated reason for resigning isn't at least part of the actual reason. On the other hand, I image dislike of Osborne and the issue of the EU referendum also contributed.

It's also worth pointing out that Boris is probably the least Eurosceptic Tory after Ken Clarke, so this is unlikely to be a plot instigated by him - even if he is currently backing Brexit.

Beskar
03-22-2016, 16:53
Stephen Crab looks like an interesting choice though. He comes across as someone who would overhaul current policy.

rory_20_uk
04-01-2016, 09:30
Trying to discern the reason for things that are done in the Westminster Bubble is always extremely tough since us outsiders have a tiny fraction of the information.

The timing does appear to be mainly for shock value rather than on the point itself which is bad form. He could have chosen to quietly step aside to pursue other interests a few months ago and perhaps even been kicked upstairs to the Lords for his "service" to the country.

But trying to discern who is was aimed against / siding with is probably such an intertwined mess we'll never know for sure and probably has a mix of several strands.

~:smoking: