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Jarema
05-21-2016, 20:36
First Year

Mafia game for 13 or more (preferably 16 or more, up to 20) players. This game is part of intended cycle of Mafia Academy

http://jayanthkumar.xtgem.com/images/269671672_640_thumb.jpg

It will be a series of small mafia games (if there would be enough willing participants, of course). They will share weak theme connection. Last game in the row will have some small elements of the setting depending on results of previous games. Mafia Academy will consist of six games: First Year, Second Year, Summer School, Third Year, Internship, and Diploma Exam.

During their stay at Academy, players will collect points for faction victories and for fulfilling personal goals. In order to get professional recognition, and Mafia Academy Diploma, one needs to collect at least 15 points across six games.



At the first year of the Academy the main focus will be on teaching you about mechanics and power of the lynch and sacrifice. Second, focus will be also put on the communication. Rules you will have to obey are made in such way, that they should facilitate cooperation and highlight meaning of lynch. Every student will also have secondary goals to fulfill. They will have impact on your grade.

There will be two or more factions: town, mafia, and possibility of third party (cult, SK, second mafia team, or something else), depending on the number of players.
Mafia victory: half or more remaining players are mafia, all anti-town players other than mafia are eliminated
Town victory: all anti-town players are eliminated
Third party victory: secret
Town will have one power role. It could be policeman/roleblocker/tracker/doctor or weakened version of one of these roles. If there will be policeman, there will be possibility of millers and/or godfather. Exact setup depends on number of players. Mafia, as informed minority, will know more details about the setup.

Special rule: in this setup mafia does not have regular factional kill. In order to get ability to kill, mafia players must predict at night who will be lynched during following day. No lynch could also be correct guess.

Players will get 3 points for obtaining victory. Players will also have personal goal (typically 2 of them). Obtaining personal goal will typically yield 1 point. The goals will not be innovative in this game. Grades:
A – 4 or 5 points
B – 3 points
C – 2 points
D – 1 point
E – 0 points

No communication at night outside of host-sanctioned QT. Full reveal on death.


List of living players:

1. johnhughtom
2. Sooh
3.
4. GeneralHankerchief
5.
6. BSmith
7. Punisher
8. Atheotes
9. Cowhead418
10. Double A
11.
12. Zack
13.

Dead:
1. Autolycus. Mafa goon., lynched day 1
2. Winston Hughes. Regular town member., lynched day 2
3. Ignoramus. Regular town member., killed night 2
4. El Barto. Regular town member., lynched day 3

johnhughthom
05-21-2016, 20:56
In for Mafia 101.

Sooh
05-21-2016, 22:43
Getting ready for school!!

Winston Hughes
05-22-2016, 11:23
We don't need no educatin.

GeneralHankerchief
05-22-2016, 21:19
In, but I won't be around much from June 1-5. If this is a problem then let me know. :yes:

El Barto
05-22-2016, 21:35
We have to postings in Polen style?

Jarema
05-22-2016, 22:09
We have to postings in Polen style?
only if you really want to suck up to the teacher

El Barto
05-23-2016, 00:53
Of Polenballen style postings! ^_^

Double A
05-23-2016, 02:24
dibs on a different team than tak

BSmith
05-23-2016, 16:01
In. I will be traveling to India June 10-16, so my access may be spotty during that time - especially when I am stuck on airplanes. If that is a problem let me know. :)

Jarema
05-23-2016, 17:15
In, but I won't be around much from June 1-5. If this is a problem then let me know. :yes:
probably it will be very begining of the game (day 1, or even not). Therefore, low activity at this moment will not be a problem


In. I will be traveling to India June 10-16, so my access may be spotty during that time - especially when I am stuck on airplanes. If that is a problem let me know. :)

well
probably we will start by then. It will be a problem if you would not be able to log once in a 48 hours period, more then once in a row (i.e. if you expect to miss 2 full days of game time, it will be a problem). But I dont know your exact schedule, and how much time you would have.
So, in other words, joining or not - its a decision only you can make

Double A
05-24-2016, 03:45
In. I will be traveling to India June 10-16, so my access may be spotty during that time - especially when I am stuck on airplanes. If that is a problem let me know. :)

please bring me curry

Punisher
05-24-2016, 08:17
My activity would be minimal up to the first of June, but considering that shouldn't be a problem, sure.

As long as there is no damn exams.

atheotes
05-24-2016, 10:19
Count me In. :bow:


In. I will be traveling to India June 10-16, so my access may be spotty during that time - especially when I am stuck on airplanes. If that is a problem let me know. :)

Welcome to India! ~:wave:

Jarema
05-24-2016, 12:27
My activity would be minimal up to the first of June, but considering that shouldn't be a problem, sure.

As long as there is no damn exams.

There will be exams.
Practical ones, after last year of school

BSmith
05-24-2016, 16:17
well
probably we will start by then. It will be a problem if you would not be able to log once in a 48 hours period, more then once in a row (i.e. if you expect to miss 2 full days of game time, it will be a problem). But I dont know your exact schedule, and how much time you would have.
So, in other words, joining or not - its a decision only you can make

I don’t anticipate being absent for more than 48 hours – 24 is a possibility though depending on the timing of it all. I’ll make a go of it.


please bring me curry

I’ll see what I can do!


Welcome to India! ~:wave:

Thanks – I had no idea you were in India… First trip for me. Will be a quick one, in Gurgaon/Delhi for a total of 4 days for work. What part of the country are you in?

atheotes
05-25-2016, 15:45
Thanks – I had no idea you were in India… First trip for me. Will be a quick one, in Gurgaon/Delhi for a total of 4 days for work. What part of the country are you in?

I am from the south...Chennai. Enjoy your trip..though i suspect you wont even have the need to unpack your suitcase. ~:)

Cowhead418
05-25-2016, 21:23
I'm in! Haven't played a mafia game here in nearly a decade, excited to get back on the horse.

Jarema
05-25-2016, 21:44
I'm in! Haven't played a mafia game here in nearly a decade, excited to get back on the horse.

Welcome

I started playing here few years ago, so I never met you. Nice to see you here

El Barto
05-26-2016, 00:35
I'm in! Haven't played a mafia game here in nearly a decade, excited to get back on the horse.
Importance question: what part of world is Polan?

Also, yuo is of welcome.

Double A
05-26-2016, 14:44
Argentina, obviouslys.

Jarema
05-26-2016, 15:44
Argentina, obviouslys.
Is it "in"?

Double A
05-26-2016, 17:33
prolly

autolycus
05-31-2016, 19:53
Always in favour of continuing my education.

El Barto
06-01-2016, 03:50
what of date can into start?

Winston Hughes
06-01-2016, 11:36
PC death means I won't be able to play for at least a week, more likely two.

El Barto
06-01-2016, 18:32
While I can always appreciate a decrease in moderation, I feel sorry for the loss of your Companion Cube. Rest in peace, noble Computing Device of Winston's.

Jarema
06-02-2016, 18:48
I think I wil be able to advertise this game a bit tommorow, and start after weekend if few people sign in

Zack
06-02-2016, 19:21
oh alright fine

Ignoramus
06-04-2016, 09:22
Any room for an old timer?

In.

Double A
06-05-2016, 06:59
only because I'm legally required to give up my cushy seat in the front of the bus to your ilk

Jarema
06-05-2016, 12:02
I will wait one final day for additional participants and then start sending pm's (probably tommorow night). Minimum number of players has been reached.

El Barto
06-05-2016, 18:16
only because I'm legally required to give up my cushy seat in the front of the bus to your ilk
lol yuo is still not even 12 and can't into teh front seat

Jarema
06-06-2016, 21:23
I start sending roles. Please do not post here before I end doing it and start the game (probably tommorow). Please do not discuss time of getting your role PM.

Jarema
06-07-2016, 06:45
Welcome, my pupils.
My name is Jarema and I am the head of School of Mafia. I will personally teach you details of my craft.
Today, you will start long road towards becoming assets of mafia families associated with our school. As you know, their recruiters will observe your progress.
During first year, we will concentrate on learning you importance of weeding out suspicious people. And making dangerous people look suspicious.
Remember to adhere to general rules of our school and to specific rules for first graders.
Be nice for each other.
Be active and vote every day.
No communication at night outside of host-sanctioned QT.

Remember also, that you will be evaluated on the basis of your group performance and of fulfillment of your individual goals.
Pupils, make your parents proud. Let the classes begin.

List of living players:
1. johnhughtom
2. Sooh
3. Winston Hughes
4. GeneralHankerchief
5. El Barto
6. BSmith
7. Punisher
8. Atheotes
9. Cowhead418
10. Double A
11. Autolycus
12. Zack
13. Ignoramus

example of town player PM (for mafia convenience)
Faction: Town
Personal goals:
1. do this and that
2. do or do not the other thing
Role: Townie
Ability description: none
Special rule: It is possible that some townies will be in fact millers (town players scanning as mafia). They will not know about it. It can be you as well!

Day 1 begins.

johnhughthom
06-07-2016, 10:20
Vote: Winston Hughes

Sooh
06-07-2016, 16:02
Oooh... Interesting. My role PM said to not to do the other thing and to do that thing.

Anyway, I owe Punisher a vote.

Zack
06-07-2016, 19:11
vote: el barto

I'm el vkto-ing you

El Barto
06-07-2016, 19:49
vote: Zack I of remember that once posings as Admiral Kleenex, and you owe of pay such bad jokings.

Also, I can't into Rôle PM?

Double A
06-07-2016, 22:18
vote: Cowhead418

:curtain:?

autolycus
06-07-2016, 23:22
Well, we might as well put vote: Ignoramus out of his misery. He'll flunk out soon enough anyway.

El Barto
06-07-2016, 23:38
Does he know?

Zack
06-08-2016, 00:33
vote: Zack I of remember that once posings as Admiral Kleenex, and you owe of pay such bad jokings.

Also, I can't into Rôle PM?

rude

GeneralHankerchief
06-08-2016, 00:45
Vote: autolycus

BSmith
06-08-2016, 03:03
vote: Double A One A is enough, but 2?

atheotes
06-08-2016, 04:20
Vote: BSmith
I want you to enjoy your first trip to India

Cowhead418
06-08-2016, 05:55
Vote: Double A

El Barto
06-08-2016, 06:00
rude
gib explanations!

Jarema
06-08-2016, 06:08
mid day tally:
Double A (2): BSmith, Cpwjead418
Winston Hughes: Johnhughthom
Punisher: Sooh
El Barto: Zack
Zack: El Barto
Cowhead418: Double A
Ignoramus: Autolycus
Autolycus: General Hankerchief
BSmith: Atheotes


I forgot to tell you about ties. In case of tie, no matter how many players are tied, lynch will occur at random.

El Barto
06-08-2016, 06:10
What? Cannot into tiebreaking rounds?

Ignoramus
06-08-2016, 07:42
Vote: autolycus - This flags too much on my scum radar as plumping for an easy lynch target.

Double A
06-08-2016, 09:17
Vote: Double A
well you definitely aren't Beefy

Punisher
06-08-2016, 10:33
vote: Cowhead418

The random gods compel me. I shall obey.

Jarema
06-08-2016, 16:29
What? Cannot into tiebreaking rounds?
I want it to be harsh on town.

Just dont do it if you dont want randomness.

Zack
06-08-2016, 20:31
Vote: autolycus - This flags too much on my scum radar as plumping for an easy lynch target.

how is auto's vote different from anyone else's, besides it being on you?

El Barto
06-09-2016, 00:39
well you definitely aren't Beefy
Isn't different weirdnumbers at end of name?

I want it to be harsh on town.

Just dont do it if you dont want randomness.
How evilness!

atheotes
06-09-2016, 00:56
how is auto's vote different from anyone else's, besides it being on you?

I dont think anyone is being serious with their reasons so far. Perhaps it is in his interests to vote this way.
He said he is playing after a long time. So maybe he felt compelled to post something semi-serious.

El Barto
06-09-2016, 02:32
Yuo is of verge in metagaming.

Jarema
06-09-2016, 09:00
Six hours left. Another tally:

Double A (2): BSmith, Cowhead418
Autolycus (2): General Hankerchief, Ignoramus
Cowhead418 (2): Double A, Punisher
Winston Hughes: Johnhughthom
Punisher: Sooh
El Barto: Zack
Zack: El Barto
Ignoramus: Autolycus
BSmith: Atheotes

atheotes
06-09-2016, 14:58
4 way ties are cooler than 3!

unvote; vote: Zack

Jarema
06-09-2016, 15:19
tally:
Double A (2): BSmith, Cowhead418
Autolycus (2): General Hankerchief, Ignoramus
Cowhead418 (2): Double A, Punisher
Zack (2): El Barto, Atheotes
Winston Hughes: Johnhughthom
Punisher: Sooh
El Barto: Zack
Ignoramus: Autolycus

Ah. What a class.
So, its up to me, as your teacher, to decide which one of the chosen four will get expelled.
Lets throw a dice...

Autolycus. That is it. Poor boy, that is end for you for now.
Class, please dont mock him. You know what? He can still get better grade than rest of you. First, his team may be victorious. Second, maybe he has some personal goals that can still be fulfilled. Who knows?

And I would forget.
Autolycus was a mafia goon

Night 1 begins.
Remember to send me night actions, and - in case of some of you - something else.

Jarema
06-10-2016, 16:06
After quiet night, another day starts.
No one died.


Day 1 begins.

johnhughthom
06-10-2016, 17:25
I want it to be harsh on town.



Lets throw a dice...

Autolycus was a mafia goon



:crazy:

Vote: Winston Hughes

Yes, I know its day two.

johnhughthom
06-10-2016, 21:31
I think you're going to have to start handing out tardy slips, teach.

El Barto
06-10-2016, 22:47
Kurwa! No one of dyings. Is of near-certainty that GH and Ignoramus not of mafia tema.

Consequences, voting of johnhughthom who is of voting absentee player with no connectionings.

Zack
06-11-2016, 00:02
generalhankerchief and ignoramus lynched auto (auto also voted ignoramus)

when auto/double a were tied 2-2, punisher and atheotes both tied other candidates (cowhead and zack) rather than break the tie. That either indicates they're town and didn't care about saving auto, or that double a was also mafia.

Zack
06-11-2016, 00:03
Vote: Double A

Ignoramus
06-11-2016, 02:05
generalhankerchief and ignoramus lynched auto (auto also voted ignoramus)

when auto/double a were tied 2-2, punisher and atheotes both tied other candidates (cowhead and zack) rather than break the tie. That either indicates they're town and didn't care about saving auto, or that double a was also mafia.

Your analysis tells us nothingZack, and smells of WIFOM (trying to confuse the town rather than doing anything constructive), and conveniently trys to cast suspicion over three other players, while conveniently clearing yourself (by implying that you and cowhead were innocent townies voted on to save auto).


how is auto's vote different from anyone else's, besides it being on you?

Rather, I think your actions on the first day are much more suspicious, leaping to auto's defence and challenging my reasons as soon as I voted for him. Since we now know that autocylus was mafia, this strongly incriminates you.

Vote: Zack

Zack
06-11-2016, 03:25
I was voting off-wagon. tell me more about how I was hard-defending auto

Punisher
06-11-2016, 13:02
Zacks logic is sound, I'm not seeing what the problem with it or his posts today (or even yesterday) is. The reasoning used is dodgy at best, outright wrong at worst (i.e. hes not clearing himself).

Although, even if Double A is mafia and Cowhead isn't, I wouldn't put atheotes as clear for his vote, he would be trading a 50:50 lost teammate for a much easier to defend vote later on.

atheotes
06-11-2016, 18:57
I can understand what Ignoramus is saying. But I think it can be as simple as what John said.
Winston

Sent from my Lenovo P1ma40 using Tapatalk

BSmith
06-11-2016, 19:50
vote: Double A i've been on airplanes for the past 24+ hours and am not really sure which way is up so I'll just redo my D1 vote.

El Barto
06-11-2016, 22:12
I can understand what Ignoramus is saying. But I think it can be as simple as what John said.
Winston

Sent from my Lenovo P1ma40 using Tapatalk
Am of sorry, wat?

El Barto
06-11-2016, 22:19
Of srsly, atheotes and johnhughthom postings no justifications and puttings Winston into bandwaggon! And atheotes can post into cellphone! Of highly suspicious! Votings jht or atheotes, everyone!

Zack
06-11-2016, 22:33
Am of sorry, wat?

I don't understand it either

Sooh
06-11-2016, 22:55
I dunno. I think BSmith's vote here is rather flimsy.

Vote: BSmith

Zack
06-12-2016, 04:18
I dunno. I think BSmith's vote here is rather flimsy.

Vote: BSmith

worth noting bsmith did not vote auto, which for him is towny considering he's a serial busser

though he probably wasn't around to do so anyways, and there were only 2 votes

El Barto
06-12-2016, 04:32
So who of should lynchings?

Jarema
06-12-2016, 05:49
tally, eleven hours before day ends:

Winston (2): Johnhughthom, Atheotes
Double A (2): Zack, BSmith
Zack: Visorslash
Johnhughthom: El Barto
BSmith: Sooh

Sooh
06-12-2016, 11:06
Not sure if Atheotes changing his target shortly before the lynch is worth noting, making the rand chance of Auto being lynched smaller. It was just something I noticed as well.

GeneralHankerchief
06-12-2016, 12:47
Vote: Winston

No activity so far.

Jarema
06-12-2016, 13:39
day will end as planned, but update may be late because of euro 2016. Night starts according to schedule, so feel free to send me your orders and other stuff when it happens.

tally, 3 hours (and 20 minutes) before day ends:

Winston (3): Johnhughthom, Atheotes, Generalhankerchief
Double A (2): Zack, BSmith
Zack: Visorslash
Johnhughthom: El Barto
BSmith: Sooh

Jarema
06-12-2016, 18:57
Winston Hughes has been lynched.
He was town member

The real question that should be asked now is: Had mafia members predicted that Winston will be lynched? Had they staged that lynch? Will there be a kill tonight?

Night 2 begins

El Barto
06-12-2016, 21:34
Vote: Winston

No activity so far.
Is of announced that his computer was of breakings! He could into post #26! Yuo is all of silly voters!

GeneralHankerchief
06-12-2016, 22:41
Is of announced that his computer was of breakings! He could into post #26! Yuo is all of silly voters!

I was out the entire weekend and wanted to get a vote in, my bad.

El Barto
06-12-2016, 22:59
At least one of yuo trio is into mafiastic practises! I of unmasking!

Zack
06-12-2016, 23:46
No communication at night outside of host-sanctioned QT

...

Jarema
06-13-2016, 07:42
Class, please go to sleep!

El Barto
06-13-2016, 19:13
Am of sorries.

Jarema
06-14-2016, 06:24
sorry for delay. Update soon

Jarema
06-14-2016, 06:35
Now, that is a good news!
Something starts to happen.

One of your collegues was "killed" during night and will no longer participate.
Ignoramus was killed!He was member of town.

I think that everyone knows what it means. You are ready for another lynch.
Day 3 has started

GeneralHankerchief
06-14-2016, 21:24
Vote: El Barto

El Barto
06-14-2016, 23:04
Why? Because of pointings out lameness of yuor vote? Yuo is of scum transparent like water at night.

głosować: GeneralHankerchief

Sooh
06-15-2016, 05:17
I don't know what GH is doing, but I also don't think he's mafia.

Vote: Atheotes

Double A
06-15-2016, 06:42
right I was out of town which meant no mafiaing

I don't really don't like Tak's omgus vote, so vote: Tak. Gonna go pass out now.

Zack
06-15-2016, 07:41
Vote: Double A

get lynched

Double A
06-15-2016, 14:31
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75615000/jpg/_75615266_nothanks_pa.jpg

johnhughthom
06-15-2016, 14:49
I'm going to Vote: El Barto

Your tedious 'rping' has no place in the classroom.

Punisher
06-15-2016, 15:41
vote: Double A

I do dislike GH's vote as well, but not quite that much.

Cowhead418
06-15-2016, 15:44
right I was out of town which meant no mafiaing

I don't really don't like Tak's omgus vote, so vote: Tak. Gonna go pass out now.

Being out of town doesn't mean you couldn't be mafia, aren't they working as a team anyway?

Vote: Double A

BSmith
06-15-2016, 19:47
vote: Double A . gonna be offline for the next 24-36 hours.

El Barto
06-15-2016, 21:53
Enough is of enough, unvote; vote: Double A. Yuo is of voting for idiot raisins. Of dishonest!

Double A
06-15-2016, 21:56
Being out of town doesn't mean you couldn't be mafia, aren't they working as a team anyway?

Vote: Double A

I literally don't understand this argument. I didn't vote because I was gone. How does that make me mafia? How does any of this?

El Barto
06-15-2016, 23:19
Yuo of scummy for voting me when am into questionings of stupid voters of townie Winston.

Double A
06-16-2016, 00:54
I guess that'll teach me for trying to play when I'm dead tired.

El Barto
06-16-2016, 01:03
Yuo of admittings into blame?

Zack
06-16-2016, 03:46
I'm going to Vote: El Barto

Your tedious 'rping' has no place in the classroom.

unvote, vote: el barto

at least i can understand what double a is saying

GeneralHankerchief
06-16-2016, 04:19
I'd just like to apologize for not contributing more - most of my mafia time is currently being taken up by the champions game on the different forum. More than that I'm not at liberty to say.

Double A
06-16-2016, 04:28
Yuo of admittings into blame?

It was Professor Plum with the rope in the ballroom, just like always. I'm clearly Mr Green.

atheotes
06-16-2016, 07:25
from what i see, i am going to follow GH on this one.

Vote: El Barto

Jarema
06-16-2016, 19:42
sorry for delay, update soon

can someone check it? I am a bit drunk

El Barto (5): General Hankerchief, Double A, Johnhughthom, Zack, Atheotes
Double A (4): Punisher, Cowhead, BSmith, El Barto
Atheotes: Sooh

Jarema
06-16-2016, 20:50
After not very involved analysis of previous events, class decided to eliminate El Barto.
I wonder, if this lych was orchestrated by mafia too.

El Barto was member of town

Night 3 begins

El Barto
06-16-2016, 21:27
I is of town ^_^

Bye!

johnhughthom
06-19-2016, 17:58
*knocks the staff room door*

El Barto
06-20-2016, 01:14
If even jht's thinking someone's not active enough…

GeneralHankerchief
06-20-2016, 22:37
Jarema?

Jarema
06-22-2016, 05:49
Sorry guys for the lag.

I am now at the hospital and I will be unable to continue with this game any time soon. If you will like to return to it after some time, then I can put it into hiatus for now. I should be home 10 days from now

johnhughthom
06-22-2016, 13:01
Hope everything goes well Jarrema.

atheotes
06-22-2016, 13:51
I am ok with anything you decide. Take Care!

GeneralHankerchief
06-22-2016, 14:45
Best wishes, Jarema, hope your recovery goes smoothly. :yes:

Does anybody have any objection to me temporarily suspending the queue and putting together a mini-mafia (7-11 players or something along those lines) to help fill the time gap? Furthermore, would there be interest in joining it? I'd prefer not to be the person running it.

Double A
06-22-2016, 15:44
Good luck, Jarema.


Does anybody have any objection to me temporarily suspending the queue and putting together a mini-mafia (7-11 players or something along those lines) to help fill the time gap? Furthermore, would there be interest in joining it? I'd prefer not to be the person running it.

I'd be okay with that

Sooh
06-22-2016, 21:29
Feel better, Jarema!
*hug*

I'll be back to this game when you're ready to continue.

Askthepizzaguy
06-22-2016, 21:29
Sorry guys for the lag.

I am now at the hospital and I will be unable to continue with this game any time soon. If you will like to return to it after some time, then I can put it into hiatus for now. I should be home 10 days from now

Take care of yourself first, we were legitimately starting to worry about you, fearing something had happened.

We'll see you when you get back. Well wishes, friend.

Zack
06-22-2016, 22:05
:(

get better man!

Visor
06-24-2016, 14:41
hope you get better soon jarema


Best wishes, Jarema, hope your recovery goes smoothly. :yes:

Does anybody have any objection to me temporarily suspending the queue and putting together a mini-mafia (7-11 players or something along those lines) to help fill the time gap? Furthermore, would there be interest in joining it? I'd prefer not to be the person running it.

if you don't want to run a game, i can

El Barto
06-26-2016, 00:15
May Polen's progress in European of Cup help speedings of recovery, jarrema!

I'm running a mini on CFC, but we could play a mini here, all the players from this game?

GeneralHankerchief
07-09-2016, 03:25
Jarema? How are you, buddy?

El Barto
07-09-2016, 20:49
If you want him to get a notification, send him a PM.

GeneralHankerchief
07-12-2016, 02:00
No activity since his most recent post on June 22nd, which is now nearly three weeks ago.

We all wish Jarema a speedy and painless recovery, but in the meantime the show must go on. I'm declaring this game on hiatus but Jarema has the option of picking it back up anytime if and when he returns to us. :yes: