View Full Version : Medival: Totalwar, Mongol Invasion
Ok, here is the scenario:
The year is 1232, and the Turks (me) control from khazar in the north, to palestine in the south. Turkish armies are knocking on the door of constantinople, and after a visciouce naval war with the Itallians, the Turkish navy is finally establishing new trade links to the west. South in Sinai, a large spanish army sits and waits for the turkish forces there to withdraw, looking to invade the middle east. The Germans, Itallians, France, and Spain are all sending crusades, trying to break the turkish power.
As you can see the turks are surrounded, and look to thier interior for stability.
The out of the East and army apears. Great warriors riding ponies. It is an army to match the splendor of Europe herself. Into Khazar 14,000 troops take hold, and into Armenia another 6000 troops prepare for the invasion. The Turks now facing a new threat must muster up enough forces to deal a deadly strike. This battle could well decide the outcome of how Europe falls. Decide for yourself, and try hold off the Mongol threat...
i have a save game challenge for all who wish to take it up, and it will be posted on this site very very soon
Hmm shud be interesting enough.
Horses = mobility, my hint would be, a static defence will save the Turks with minimal losses. It cud be complicated though if the Horde are allowed to leave Armenia into the heartland.
Need bit more info, to complete defensive strategy:
1. Do the Turks command 2,800 archers (preferably Janissary above valor 3) ?
2. Do the Turks command 8,000 Saracen Infantry (preferably above valor 3-4)
3. Do the Turks command 250 Naptha throwers ?
4. Do the Turks command 8 catapult crews (above valor 3 naturally)
5. What level is this ? expert i presume.
6. Financial War Reserves = ?
7. Turk Army numbers = ?
Guess most of the answers are in the save.
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Swoosh So
12-31-2002, 13:11
All you need are loads of spears and some trees http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif then just set the battles to high speed and let the mongols try http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Boring i know but its that easy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
well im about to fight the battle now
no trees though, its a steppe envrionment.
and as far as the troops go, its mainly a horde of spears in khazar, and much more versitile in Armenia.
I can win the armenia battle eas enough, its the khazar one that could prove tough
LordKhaine
01-01-2003, 06:54
Quote[/b] (Swoosh So @ Dec. 31 2002,06:11)]All you need are loads of spears and some trees http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif then just set the battles to high speed and let the mongols try http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Boring i know but its that easy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
For that plan to work, you need more missle armed troops than the enemy. From experience, I can say the Mongols pack a LOT of horse archers.
well after the longest battle of my life, ive beaten the horde....
the time limit was 460 minutes... insane by anyones standards, but with the speed option it took me only 5 hours to finnish.
What i did, i set up my spears in a horseshoe formation on the edge where my gather point was. Then all it was was an attempt to replenish my units as they whittled away. By the end of it i had killed 4k of thier troops and lost 2k of my own. I killed all i captured. After the battle the turks ransomed back about 9k of thier men for close to 120,000 Florins, and dumped them all in armenia, (which i lost) Anyway, a few turns later i had them dead and gone, along with the better part of my armies. I went from a defending force on the mongol front of 16k men, including reserves, to about 3k men.
well i hope to see my turkish empire blossom now after that astoinding victory.... i have money in my coffers, and the seccond biggest army in the world. My trade empire is also blossoming, so it looks like smooth sailing for now
are you going to post the save game from before the battle?
yeah, i already did barocca, but i forgot to say in a readme that i was the one who posted it.
it should be in the downloads under Mongol Invasion.zip
Heres the Link to Alowran's save game (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/Mongol%20Invasion.zip)
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lol, thanks barocca... well thanks to the golden horde killing most of my armies, my income has shot through the roof.. and now, 50yrs on in the campagin my coffers sit at about 250,000 Florins... and 10% more to that each turn (god i love Antioch.. gets me close to 10k florins a turn now)
kataphraktoi
01-02-2003, 13:52
Quote[/b] ]All you need are loads of spears and some trees then just set the battles to high speed and let the mongols try Boring i know but its that easy
Swoosh so ur right but in my case I used byzantine infantry and trebizond archers only and they wiped the mongolians on the green steppe grass.
Swoosh So
01-02-2003, 13:53
Lord khaine ive won abaout 10 of those battles with no missles, usually the mongols run around outside the forrest for a while then fleee
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