Save the English game challenge - no clue

[Lichgod]

Ok, so I see the homepage issue a challenge to save the English at 1217. I go get the file, load it to my save game directory, open it up. The English are in great shape They don't need saving. Where is the challenge?

English position: Britan, France, Norway/Sweden, about 5 middle east provinces, big decent quality armies, and about 240k in the bank. They are only at war with the Germans and look like they are beating them up nicely. This is a Glory game and the English are out ahead of eveyone else.

I dont understand what is the deal with the challenge. What am I missing? I was thinking more like down to 3 provinces, no decent army, and bankrupt with the world hating them. Now that would be a challenge. Can someone help me here?

[barocca]

???

well i'll go check on that,

i don't always have time to check all the files,
sometimes i have to trust what the author says,

they do all pass through a virus scanner though...

[kyodai-britishbeef]

its true, they dont need saving, i had a go and within 5 years had expanded massively , i kept waiting for something massive to happen but nothing did, i guess i saved them from there original inept general http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif)

[barocca]

i suspect it was not a "challenge" at all then?
so here's one that is...

Never Trust Cromwell (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWrecords/Never_Trust_Cromwell.zip)

Never Trust Cromwell,
(Conquest game - Expert)

England, 1224,
A sustained French attack has conquered your continental holdings,
Danish pirates have been sinking your shipping mercilessly,
and a treacherous general named Cromwell led your Northern Army in a successfull uprising
these events have left a bankrupt England on the brink of extinction...

Northumbria should fall easily, Ireland may be a little harder,
your fleet is down to one ship, keep it safe from the Danes,
and the French must be removed from English soil...

(i really thought i was going well - till an uprising, combined with french assaults on 3 provinces...England has 2 provinces, and a few men, but not much in the way of cash,
and as for knights - can't build em, heck can't even build hobilars...good luck...)

[barocca]

also,
there has been another contribution,
SaveGame_Challenge_The_Poles

i have not played it yet
so heres the link to the page

Battle Records and SaveGame Challenges link (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWrecords/)

[Lichgod]

Ok, finished the Cromwell game. Took me until 1368 to get the conquest victory option. The start was a little difficult but my initial strategy worked quite well. I follow the "dont attack AI factions until they attack you" rule. I focused on rebels and expanding trade fleets until the AI factions started to attack me.

The harriest part was about 50 years in and loyalty for about all my generals/leaders was sucking. I did a couple of treason trials and launched a campaign to take several provinces and things turned around.

The whole game my leaders and heirs really sucked. The best was 4 star but always with a vice. I was able to get a couple generals up, one six and one five with a bunch of fours.

Overall, worth the time to play. The English have a huge advantage in their billmen and longbows. Once I got Wales and Mercia up to produce them, I started rolling. I used the Scots and Irish (Gallowglass/Kerns) for main garrison troops and Billmen/Longbow for the front line troops.

Thanks for the challenge. I will check out the Polish one.

[Lichgod]

Did the Polish game. I could not win it. Would be hard for anyone to do so, I think. I went from 5 to 34 provinces and kept the treasury around 25k. Looks like the Danes did the best in this game.

Thanks for the opportunity.

[barocca]

i agree with Lichgod on this one,
very tough indeed,

not enough troops, and what you have is lower quality than your neighbours,


I tried attacking straight into the Horde,
took 4 provinces very quickly,
but the damn garrisons were going to be holding out for 5 years or more,
and counter attacks were whittling men away faster than i could replace them,
fair enough i was knocking them over at odds against me of 3 to 1 or worse, and i was inflicting 10 to 1 in kills,
but when they send 2500 men, and i kill 1800 while losing 180 just in one province then attrition is going to wear the Poles into oblivion...

then i tried attacking the Danes - who are spread very thin on the ground - too thin to hold what they have,
I wound up with a civil war on my hands...

and Hungary's troops are so much better quality than the Poles i think an assault on Hungary would be suicide,,,

maybe i'll give it another go later, but for now,
very very tough indeed...

i'll try taking out the Danes again and see if i can avoid a civil war this time...

[barocca]

four attempts later,

one with cheat codes to the hilt,
and i cannot take the required 60 provinces in the forty years remaining in the polish challenge...

i think this is mission impossible without cheat codes...
with cheat codes i got close, perhaps with better organisation i'd have made it,
but the whole point is without cheating...

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