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edyzmedieval
06-20-2016, 00:55
Battlefield 1 - the new iteration in the Battlefield series - going back down to World War 1! :yes:
www.battlefield.com
World War 1 gameplay, complete with trenches. 44 minutes of raw gameplay below from a EA event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iJVTHMZ6EY
Thoughts? :yes:
Unfortunately, I don't think they will reproduce the tragedy of WW1. Being ordered to cross 'no mans land' at walking pace, with a rifle, full kit, whilst facing machine-gun fire and artillery from the enemy.
The video you linked there also looks more like WW2.
edyzmedieval
06-20-2016, 04:03
That's the raw BF1 gameplay, which is essentially the MP component, a fleshed out battle complete with trenches and Hindenburgs. And small WW1 tanks.
There is somthing very sinister about WW1, but if you put things together right it could be a great, much more organised game. Needs a commander-mode to unleash havoc. I think the developers are aware of what a bleak setting it really is, but trench warfare was only a part of WW1 a lot can be done
That's the raw BF1 gameplay, which is essentially the MP component, a fleshed out battle complete with trenches and Hindenburgs. And small WW1 tanks.
It is actually just trying to recreate the Urban style modern warfare with random weapons and vehicles from the period. The warfare in the OP is closer to WW1, especially with the hand-held machine guns. WW1 shoulder get-up was more akin to this: http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/media/249512/ww1_1916_somme_soldier_pose_01.jpg
And Trench-warfare was basically what was done till the very end of the war. (except in the East)
This only really changed with the Ludendorff offensive in 1918 who managed to break through the trenchs, and was a race of time to win the war before the Americans arrived in significant numbers.
I of the Storm
06-20-2016, 18:32
Ofc it's not authentic WW1-warfare gameplay.
That wouldn't be much fun, would it?
- stand in trench
- wait for barrage to stop
- wait for captains signal pipe
- press F to go over the top
- die
- respawn
Machine guns = spawn campers
That said, it might be a fun MP shooter. Haven't played one of those in a while.
Trench-warfare was just the last (and long) phase, but even trench warfare has the potential to be fun if you turn it into an fp/
s/rts hybrid with strong emphasis on planes and tanks and zeppilins (zeppilins having the same role as the AT's in Battlefront) battlefields were completily destroyed so should be plenty of room to hide for infantry and slowly progress. Could become something really focused.
edyzmedieval
06-22-2016, 19:06
It will be interesting to see how it works out, because WW1 warfare is not suited to the usual Battlefield gameplay. Plus - Hindenburg warfare will be quite a matchup, because it's slow and vulnerable to attacks from the ground.
easytarget
06-24-2016, 14:42
If I had to guess, they'll make the same BF game they've made the last couple times in a WW1 setting.
It will be interesting to see how it works out, because WW1 warfare is not suited to the usual Battlefield gameplay. Plus - Hindenburg warfare will be quite a matchup, because it's slow and vulnerable to attacks from the ground.
Actually Air ships were immune to ground and even air plane attacks for a few years. Until incendiary ammunition for machine guns was developed.
edyzmedieval
06-25-2016, 16:11
So in essence you could not destroy Hindenburgs...
I wonder if you can in the game, or at least any counter measures against them.
Unfortunately, I don't think they will reproduce the tragedy of WW1. Being ordered to cross 'no mans land' at walking pace, with a rifle, full kit, whilst facing machine-gun fire and artillery from the enemy.
The video you linked there also looks more like WW2.
Tragedy is the least of my concerns. Apparently, they are not going to reproduce the biggest contributors of Entente, either. Russia and France are not in the game, which is a historical disgrace or a DLC, another form of disgrace.
I know it's just a game, but I'm becoming a bit fed up with Anglosaxonic egocentrism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzEZ1Sq4tI
easytarget
06-26-2016, 00:21
They've already said France is DLC. I wouldn't expect that will be the last one they release either.
Veho Nex
06-26-2016, 03:38
After all the gameplay footage and all that fun stuff I'm a little disenchanted so far. Everyone is using SMG's, Semi-automatic Rifles, and every gun seems to have a scope, for-grip, and/or bayonet attached.
Hooahguy
06-26-2016, 04:38
If you want an actual WW1 shooter, try Verdun. Actually a pretty good game, if frustrating at times.
Veho Nex
06-27-2016, 01:28
Doesnt run on my pc. Stutters like crazy
Pop them with artillery.
That's impossible. These things could be a great way to give a trench-map momentum
edyzmedieval
08-30-2016, 12:54
BF1 beta now available for those interested in trying it out.
www.battlefield.com
Veho Nex
09-01-2016, 02:39
So after 4 hours of the open beta I can definitely say that it's a modern FPS with a WW1 reskin. Only bolt action guns I've seen so far belong to the sniper class. Oh well.
Hooahguy
09-01-2016, 16:55
That really is such a bummer. One of the exciting things about Verdun is playing with the bolt actions because you actually have to aim carefully. Think I will pass on this one. Maybe pick up Battlefield 4 when it gets cheaper or something since I heard it got good now.
edyzmedieval
09-16-2016, 17:51
13.2 million players for the Battlefield 1 BETA. EA record.
https://www.battlefield.com/news/article/battlefield-1-beta-thank-you
Veho Nex
09-16-2016, 20:35
I wonder how many were like me and realized it was poop after 2 hours.
edyzmedieval
09-16-2016, 23:14
A considerable number of people enjoy the game, that is for sure, the BF1 hype is quite massive right now and as evidenced by the number of people who actually played the BETA.
Tragedy is the least of my concerns. Apparently, they are not going to reproduce the biggest contributors of Entente, either. Russia and France are not in the game, which is a historical disgrace or a DLC, another form of disgrace.
I know it's just a game, but I'm becoming a bit fed up with Anglosaxonic egocentrism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzEZ1Sq4tI
Never played a Battlefield game then? You don't play as a faction on maps. You play maps that have factions on them. So if they just leave engagements that include France and Russia out for later DLC's then they won't be in at launch. Also you really need to build a bridge and get over the fact that the gaming industry runs on DLC and other forms of Micro transactions.
After all the gameplay footage and all that fun stuff I'm a little disenchanted so far. Everyone is using SMG's, Semi-automatic Rifles, and every gun seems to have a scope, for-grip, and/or bayonet attached.
What did you expect? This game uses the exact same engine that Battlefield 4 and Star Wars Battlefront use.
What did you expect? This game uses the exact same engine that Battlefield 4 and Star Wars Battlefront use.
Does that mean FIFA 17 will also have lots of SMGs and foregrips?
Never played a Battlefield game then? You don't play as a faction on maps. You play maps that have factions on them. So if they just leave engagements that include France and Russia out for later DLC's then they won't be in at launch. Also you really need to build a bridge and get over the fact that the gaming industry runs on DLC and other forms of Micro transactions.
Well then it is a historical disgrace that the Eastern Front was ignored. And I am really curious to learn what maps they found where only British and Americans, but not a single Frenchman, fought. DLC is the norm and shame on the consumers for that, but I am not seeing why I should stop protesting.
So never played a Battlefield game then, got it. As this series has always made you buy content packs for new armies. And protesting DLC (as a concept) at this point is like moaing about de-colonization.
National armies had responsibility for specific sections on the front. So it's ludicrously easy to focus in on a specific action that only has one entente or central powers army on each side. As the maps in a BF game cover maybe 5-10 square km. And focus on one specific action, like the battle of Wake island or the capture of Caen.
De-colonization is not a current phenomenon, so not a very apt comparison. The fact that Battlefield and EA are very proud of spamming DLCs is irrelevant, unless you believe that complaining about Nazi gangs beating up foreigners is nonsensical, because Nazi gangs always attacked foreigners.
Even if Battlefield maps have a size of 20 square meters, not adding 20 square meters, where French and Russians fought and died in WWI is ridiculous history-wise and very shameful, if they are sold later as DLCs.
De-colonization is not a current phenomenon, so not a very apt comparison. The fact that Battlefield and EA are very proud of spamming DLCs is irrelevant, unless you believe that complaining about Nazi gangs beating up foreigners is nonsensical, because Nazi gangs always attacked foreigners.
Oh but it is. As your complaining about something that's not only over and done (digital DLC being the norm). But has been done for quite sometime.
Even if Battlefield maps have a size of 20 square meters, not adding 20 square meters, where French and Russians fought and died in WWI is ridiculous history-wise and very shameful, if they are sold later as DLCs.
In Battlefield 1942 the Italian army, Free French forces, and sub-factions like the USMC, SS, SAS, RAF, Luftwaffe were only available through the expansion packs. Where's your butthurt for that? It's the exact same situation as France and Russia being held back for DLC later.
Oh but it is. As your complaining about something that's not only over and done (digital DLC being the norm). But has been done for quite sometime.
If it is over and done, it a bit difficult also being the norm. I really can't explain it more simply. I won't whine about Hitler, who is over and done, but I will protest about Nazi thugs who aren't over and done. It's not rocket science.
In Battlefield 1942 the Italian army, Free French forces, and sub-factions like the USMC, SS, SAS, RAF, Luftwaffe were only available through the expansion packs. Where's your butthurt for that? It's the exact same situation as France and Russia being held back for DLC later.
Yeah, not really the same, but I would still complain, if I was a member of the forum in 2002 and that was a thread about Battlefield 1942 and not about Battlefield 1.
I absolutely get the frustration about DLCs *buys a DLC*, but they're so pretty...
Actually I often buy games later as a complete package with Season Pass or all DLCs included because I just don't think a Tomb Raider or so is worth 90 bucks even with a few cave-DLCs tacked on. If the DLCs are more like smaller addons similar to what we had ages ago, then I think they can be justified, although usually DLCs are way overpriced if you compare the work required to make a full game and the work to make a few assets and then compare the prices...
I still buy some depending on the company, the contents and so on, but I also leave a lot of other games for sales and then sometimes for when they are 10€ or less on the other hand, because my overall budget for games does not change much just because they want more money per game now...
Montmorency
09-19-2016, 15:49
Okay, they can release French and East fronts as expansion packs, and then offer DLC for the expansion packs. :freak:
Okay, they can release French and East fronts as expansion packs, and then offer DLC for the expansion packs. :freak:
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
My point was that back then you'd buy a game for, say, 50€ and a year later they would release an expansion/addon for 30€ that had a lot of new content, such as several new nations, units, a few new game mechanics, new maps and also a few new missions, campaigns and multiplayer modes in case of an RTS game. So in many cases the content seemed to justify the price more or less. My point was that a DLC that works in a similar case can be perfectly fine in my book, but a new character skin for 5€ is not. Mostly because a new character skin is maybe a day of work for one designer and an entire game for 50€ already pays for 100+ people working for a year or two on an entire game.
The relation is just off in the latter case.
Montmorency
09-20-2016, 16:03
I'm thinking of Smugglers V recently, which had a DLC for the main game, a standalone "expansion", and a DLC for that expansion.
I absolutely get the frustration about DLCs *buys a DLC*, but they're so pretty...
Actually I often buy games later as a complete package with Season Pass or all DLCs included because I just don't think a Tomb Raider or so is worth 90 bucks even with a few cave-DLCs tacked on. If the DLCs are more like smaller addons similar to what we had ages ago, then I think they can be justified, although usually DLCs are way overpriced if you compare the work required to make a full game and the work to make a few assets and then compare the prices...
I still buy some depending on the company, the contents and so on, but I also leave a lot of other games for sales and then sometimes for when they are 10€ or less on the other hand, because my overall budget for games does not change much just because they want more money per game now...
I always wait for the definative edition with single-player games at least. There are soooooo many good games that are more than 3 year old or more. The Arkham-city game with all DLC I bought for 15 euro. Different thing with game like Battlefield, feels like arm-twisting
edyzmedieval
10-08-2016, 23:25
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/road-to-battlefield-stream/
Streaming the final version starts on the 12th of October.
Release - 21 October.
Sounds tempting, I like the gritty feel of Battlefield 1, it's also much less chaotic than the previous games. I plead for a different kind of unlocking system so everything works better, actually forcing you to unlock the multiplayer. Get to know the maps fighting AI routine, everybody will already know how what to do once they unlocked it and try something else, making infantry battles much less chaotic and makes more sense being just a footsoldier with an objective. After that 3 vs 3 with the rest being AI. After that 6 vs 6, later being able to play with more and using vehicles yourself. The Battlefield-games can be glorious when everybody knows what they are doing but the potential to be really good from the start is a mess
edyzmedieval
10-11-2016, 23:28
Uncapped FPS for Battlefield 1 PC players, which clearly is a good thing for those who have high end rigs and want to max out everything.
http://wccftech.com/battlefield-1-pc-feature-uncapped-fps-trailer-showcases-multiplayer-maps/
edyzmedieval
10-20-2016, 01:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p1FMRwV8Ic
A bit of fun. :grin:
edyzmedieval
10-23-2016, 02:52
Battlefield 1 is out... and the reviews are positive! 8.9 average user score on Metacritic. That's saying something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Vc9XYwdNw
edyzmedieval
10-26-2016, 20:53
Westie, Jackfrags, LevelCap... these guys are professional YouTubers who make a living out of playing videos. Plus they get invited to every launch event. :grin2:
So I don't really suck, pretty incredible how good he is. I don't have a ps4 or gaming-pc I play it at gf, but while I'm pretty good at fps my kill/death ratio is absolutily nothing compared to that.
you make it look so eaaaaasy
edyzmedieval
11-07-2016, 02:37
Russian Empire will be added to Battlefield 1, making the total factions around in BF1 up to 8, which is quite impressive.
edyzmedieval
02-19-2017, 13:18
DLC for BF1 - called Frontlines - featuring some new game modes, will come out soon. :yes:
Hooahguy
02-20-2017, 23:53
I wonder if the new DLC will have a game mode that is similar to the mode that appears in the game Verdun, where each side takes turns at trying to capture the other team's series of trenches.
edyzmedieval
03-01-2017, 21:54
I wonder if the new DLC will have a game mode that is similar to the mode that appears in the game Verdun, where each side takes turns at trying to capture the other team's series of trenches.
Correct! :yes:
It does have a new mode which resembles capture the flag a bit, but it features mainly trenches.
edyzmedieval
09-10-2017, 13:45
New DLC out for BF1 with this map.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOSfPUgiz4
Hooahguy
09-10-2017, 15:00
It looks cool, but the prevalence of sub-machine guns annoys me a bit, as they were pretty rare in WW1.
Yes, it's basically like a typical WW2 shooter.
The Tommy Guns, MPs and PPShs just look a bit more old-fashioned. I guess if it were different it would become known as the Big Failure of the BF series though because fast gameplay is what the market demands. :shrug:
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