View Full Version : Factions are too weak ince the patch
Antalis::
01-05-2003, 11:39
MM, since the patch, MTW is not really a challange anymore.
The enemy is too weak.
Most he has very weak units and since the patch he doesn´t cheat anymore (I think that the computer had cheated before).
Ok, this is good, but so the enemy can´t raise huge armies like before.
Is it just me, or is this really true that the other factions are much too weak now?
I think about to change to the prae-patch version again.
At least the Golden Horde is actually a horde now
Antalis::
01-05-2003, 16:06
Zitat[/b] (jLan @ Jan. 05 2003,05:35)]At least the Golden Horde is actually a horde now
Thats true, but the other factions are very weak after the patch.
They often use some peasants and other weak units and the armies are not that impressive and huge.
Before the patch it was a struggle to survife.
No real challange to beat them now, if you can raise warager-vikings... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
MasterM!nd
01-05-2003, 16:07
Dunno if you are, but if you are maybe its time stopping playing on easy level? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
im still yet to beat expert... i play online too mcuh
Lord Romulous
01-05-2003, 16:34
one thing i would like to see change is the frequency of the ai retreating either out of the provence or into the castle.
sure i might outnumber it 3 to 1 but if it retreats everytime i invade it is going to be left with just one provence and then die. (this always happens to me, in my last 10 invasions the ai has retreated without battle everytime)
i play on hard.
Antalis::
01-05-2003, 16:55
Zitat[/b] (MasterMnd @ Jan. 05 2003,09:07)]Dunno if you are, but if you are maybe its time stopping playing on easy level? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
I play on Expert http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
Its always the same: Try to conquer as many area with trading possibilities as possible and try to make sure that you are the only one who have many ships on sea to trade.
Also build mines and 80% farmlands everywere.
Try to be independent from trading and use only the money for armies that you earn with other things, not with trading.
Ok, Poland isn´t easy in the late period.
SmokWawelski
01-05-2003, 18:36
I think that you find the game easier because a lot of balancing changes done after the original release were applied by the patch and the game plays differently. Maybe, if the AI does not cheat any more (really was it cheating?) it cannot keep up with the cunning humans?
Antalis::
01-05-2003, 19:19
Zitat[/b] (SmokWawelski @ Jan. 05 2003,11:36)]I think that you find the game easier because a lot of balancing changes done after the original release were applied by the patch and the game plays differently. Maybe, if the AI does not cheat any more (really was it cheating?) it cannot keep up with the cunning humans?
Yes I think that the AI has cheated before and now the AI has no money to raise big armies with strong units and get into a negative budget http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif .
So I think that this game is now not really good ballanced.
If you put restrictions on yourself when you start the game and give the AI some chance to build up he might give you a slight more challenge.
If you just take all his providences in the first 50 turns then guess what? Its going to be easy.
Sometimes doing Iron Man Rules helps prolong things for very good players. Other then that you might have to just go to anohter game. There is no game yet that could give anyone a challenge once you figure out the game and all its little tricks.
The real trick is not using those AI tricks that you are using now. Your your own worse enemy when you do.
Good luck.
Antalis::
01-05-2003, 22:52
Zitat[/b] (malkuth @ Jan. 05 2003,15:14)]If you put restrictions on yourself when you start the game and give the AI some chance to build up he might give you a slight more challenge.
If you just take all his providences in the first 50 turns then guess what? Its going to be easy.
Sometimes doing Iron Man Rules helps prolong things for very good players. Other then that you might have to just go to anohter game. There is no game yet that could give anyone a challenge once you figure out the game and all its little tricks.
The real trick is not using those AI tricks that you are using now. Your your own worse enemy when you do.
Good luck.
Hehe, yeah I know the tricks and so its easy.
You could be right http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Try turning on the options to make the comp build units and troops for you. Should make it harder...
Antalis::
01-06-2003, 02:35
Zitat[/b] (jLan @ Jan. 05 2003,19:12)]Try turning on the options to make the comp build units and troops for you. Should make it harder...
No I´ll never do this because I want to rule my empire as a hole
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
But its ok, I have to live with the weakness of the AI: So I´m sure that now the AI doesn´t cheat (nobody would cheat to raise a lot of peasants and bowmen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif ).
MacGregor
01-06-2003, 02:40
Some factions definetly seem too weak or just plain stupid. Every SP campaign I play I watch the French walk over the English and usually the HRE too. I don't think there's been a time I've seen the English put up any kind of fight. The only time I've seen them survive as an AI nation is when I play the HRE and attack the French while they are busy fighting England.
Another thing I noticed is that prepatch I saw the Spanish survive the Aloms onslaught a few times but usually the Moors just crushed them and where all over France by 1200, but since the patch the Spaniards have haded them Aloms their asses in every game I've played.
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