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HopAlongBunny
11-12-2016, 09:30
Kurt Vonnegut on the hijacking of Armistice Day
and
The Band Played Waltzing Matilda:
http://wonkette.com/608515/fine-here-is-your-bloody-kurt-vonnegut-for-armistice-day-and-the-death-of-america-so-it-goes
Remembering those who have and will serve :bow:
Hooahguy
11-13-2016, 01:27
Wonderful words by Vonnegut. I feel much more connected to the First World War for some reason and in 2015 I visited a bunch of the war memorials in Belgium. Very surreal.
Took this photo at the Menin Gate Memorial. Lest we forget.
https://i.imgur.com/54s7EpH.jpg
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
11-13-2016, 02:11
I think this is a particularly American problem, as here it's Armistice Day and Tomorrow is Remembrance Sunday where we remember first of all the dead, and then also the survivors.
The words of the Kohima Epitaph are read every year.
Having said that, I used to wear a suit and tie like the soldiers but I gave it up a few years ago. Not least because I never did become one, and I think that every year there are fewer Civilians and the Great War has now passed out of living memory.
I think the expansion of it to remember all we have lost means it is something to take us through the generations, as many of us have lost people through various things from war, accidents, disease, or even old age. So having a day to Remember them all by makes it far more relate-able.
It is also awkward when we know people who purposefully reject Remembrance day because they see it as glorifying war.
It is also awkward when we know people who purposefully reject Remembrance day because they see it as glorifying war.
Or people in whose culture that day marks the beginning of the carnival season, a tradition that began as a mockery of the army. :dizzy2:
Pannonian
11-13-2016, 20:42
I think the expansion of it to remember all we have lost means it is something to take us through the generations, as many of us have lost people through various things from war, accidents, disease, or even old age. So having a day to Remember them all by makes it far more relate-able.
It is also awkward when we know people who purposefully reject Remembrance day because they see it as glorifying war.
Like Jeremy Corbyn?
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
11-13-2016, 21:45
I think the expansion of it to remember all we have lost means it is something to take us through the generations, as many of us have lost people through various things from war, accidents, disease, or even old age. So having a day to Remember them all by makes it far more relate-able.
I disagree - Remembrance Sunday and Armistice Day are for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country. It should not glorify war, but neither should it be diluted into something mundane.
It began as a national act of mourning for the horrors of the Great War, not only those people suffered but also those which they inflicted. It is an act of commemoration but also an act of re-dedication to Peace.
It is also awkward when we know people who purposefully reject Remembrance day because they see it as glorifying war.
That's not awkward at all - such people are either ignorant, and can be educated, or they're horrible people and you can stop associating with them.
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