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Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:19
Quick, what does the pizza mega-analysis say about unfathomable certainty 3 hours into D1?
Solid!
If Logic is gonna blunder his queen, I'm going to trap it and take it.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:21
Vote: Pizza
sometimes people think they can feed my ego by calling me town
they are fools
Zack votes Pizza Double Question Mark.
That is a legal vote, though.
Ok. So what does it mean that he voted you after displaying subtle ambivalence on your alignment, just for a meta-reference?
I don't know if I understand a single word of this question.
Zack votes Pizza Double Question Mark.
That is a legal vote, though.
is this affecting your read on me?
:belly:
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:26
I don't know if I understand a single word of this question.
Correct!
I think the world of Lissa, so thanks for the compliment. :yes:
Also I'm giving you a disgusting townpoint for your above "nah I ask it as a wolf all the time" response.
also, gh
you were here at game start -- why did you wait until now to start getting into it?
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:27
is this affecting your read on me?
:belly:
INCORRECT!
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 02:28
also, gh
you were here at game start -- why did you wait until now to start getting into it?
I had to be here at the start in order to open the thread, but was mostly doing other stuff and half-paying attention.
Now I'm 3/4 paying attention.
I had to be here at the start in order to open the thread, but was mostly doing other stuff and half-paying attention.
Now I'm 3/4 paying attention.
what do you think of pizza so far?
is he part of that null pile you mentioned?
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 02:31
what do you think of pizza so far?
is he part of that null pile you mentioned?
Yeah, partly because I don't really feel like translating his posts into English at this point. What about you?
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:32
I had to be here at the start in order to open the thread, but was mostly doing other stuff and half-paying attention.
Now I'm 3/4 paying attention.
GH rated 2800, could solve the game 1/4 paying attention.
Yeah, partly because I don't really feel like translating his posts into English at this point. What about you?
what about me? I just explained my thoughts on him.
Vote:ATPG
Not a fan of his so far.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 02:36
what about me? I just explained my thoughts on him.
I saw your vote for him because you (presumably?) thought he was pocketing you, but he's done a lot of other stuff besides that.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:37
You, with some crazy vote!
Vote:ATPG
Not a fan of his so far.
*facepalm*
I saw your vote for him because you (presumably?) thought he was pocketing you, but he's done a lot of other stuff besides that.
:shrug:
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:40
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
That is a legal vote. Ah, but the queen got away. Now you're only at like +.3
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
:inquisitive:
also, you didn't answer my question
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
Quick, give a read on me, I don’t think you’ve seen me play before so I’m curious as to what you think of my style.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:44
Quick, give a read on me, I don’t think you’ve seen me play before so I’m curious as to what you think of my style.
It has potential. Needs more confidence.
You need a goal, so here you go: When you become a GM you can move your rooks diagonally.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:45
Also the kids in the 1 o'clock class do that too. But for them it's illegal.
You, with some crazy vote!
*facepalm*
Did you expect something else? I'm curious.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:49
Did you expect something else? I'm curious.
Not a fan? You should just go leave a comment that I'll delete.
Deleting comments is my ultimate trump, and I don't mean the kind ___________
After all, you'd have to be __________
Seriously, what ___________
Also Ben Simon just edited all that out. But I barely even said his name!
I gotta give him something to do.
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
The second point is good, but the rest I disagree with.
also, you didn't answer my question
Yes, that's deliberate.
Not a fan? You should just go leave a comment that I'll delete.
Deleting comments is my ultimate trump, and I don't mean the kind ___________
After all, you'd have to be __________
Seriously, what ___________
Also Ben Simon just edited all that out. But I barely even said his name!
I gotta give him something to do.
This is why I voted you tbh.
The second point is good, but the rest I disagree with.
No it's not. Name a single person that I've OMGUSed?
No it's not. Name a single person that I've OMGUSed?
Me.
Yes, that's deliberate.
So you're one of those people.
Me.
Name one that was remotely serious.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:52
This is why I voted you tbh.
Terrible!
Quick, give a read on me, I don’t think you’ve seen me play before so I’m curious as to what you think of my style.
Sorry in a bit. TMNT: Mutant Apocalypse is on and I didn't prepare the DVR because I didn't expect it to be on.
Sorry in a bit. TMNT: Mutant Apocalypse is on and I didn't prepare the DVR because I didn't expect it to be on.
Expand on why Pizza and GH are town while you're at it.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:55
Expand on why Pizza and GH are town while you're at it.
Pizza lock town, solid.
Like another famous GM, I'll only show you the games I win. ;)
Name one that was remotely serious.
That would require me to get inside your head. Do you consent? y/n?
I was agreeing with the quality vs quantity statement, more so than the OMGUS statement, which is pretty hypocritical of me, but I'm not too bothered by it.
That would require me to get inside your head. Do you consent? y/n?
I was agreeing with the quality vs quantity statement, more so than the OMGUS statement, which is pretty hypocritical of me, but I'm not too bothered by it.
Ok.
What do you expect a few hours into d1? Textwalls and reads lists from the word go? It's a silly accusation.
Terrible!
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 02:59
Ok.
What do you expect a few hours into d1? Textwalls and reads lists from the word go? It's a silly accusation.
Indeed.
Very suspicious. ;)
"In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces."
Did you get that from the big book of war?
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:01
Did you get that from the big book of war?
How to cook for forty humans.
That's a Simpson's reference, so I'm still technically in character. Bam!
Montmorency
10-05-2017, 03:01
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
Spicy.
Strong.
On the other hand, half the players haven't entered play yet. What about Winston? He's been locked into sparring with Zack, and hasn't interacted with or on Logic either.
I just did Zack's ISO.
Forty posts, not even a hint of solving.
Making all nicey-nice with the main influencers.
Total manipulation.
Don't believe his lies.
Maybe you and Winston are talking?
On the other hand, we have a few aggressive players...
No it's not. Name a single person that I've OMGUSed?
Winston. Unless
reinoe
What do you think of Winston-Zack m/m?
Montmorency
10-05-2017, 03:02
How to cook for forty humans.
That's a Simpson's reference, so I'm still technically in character. Bam!
This is the opposite of how Khaan got GH to expose himself as scum in the Pokemon game, so that means GH now is ____.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:04
Spicy.
Strong.
...Solid!
Well the Zack vote is a little iffy. Other than that, he's definitely got the space advantage.
Montmorency
10-05-2017, 03:04
...Solid!
Well the Zack vote is a little iffy. Other than that, he's definitely got the space advantage.
Me, or reinoe?
Ok.
What do you expect a few hours into d1? Textwalls and reads lists from the word go? It's a silly accusation.
I expect exactly what has happened, doesn't mean I can't hold it against you though. It's a valid point, just not a damning one. Just a silly little argument. D1's are always silly, just go with it.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:05
This is the opposite of how Khaan got GH to expose himself as scum in the Pokemon game, so that means GH now is ____.
...A legal pawn capture, gxh, exposing the kingside allowing a mating attack down the open g file.
And a hankerchief so when your opponent cries, you can offer them a way to clean themselves up. I don't care if you win or lose, I only care if you made the other kid cry.
I expect exactly what has happened, doesn't mean I can't hold it against you though. It's a valid point, just not a damning one. Just a silly little argument. D1's are always silly, just go with it.
There are so many contradictions within this one post.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:07
Me, or reinoe?
Solid.
There are so many contradictions within this one post.
Logic isn't my strong suit. Neither are words. Or making good arguments. I'm bad at everything.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:12
There are so many contradictions within this one post.
Unlike most contradictions, this one might even be meaningful. Bam!
Like me, Csargo is overworked, except he's defending two contradictory positions at once.
Although some say I'm actually "overloaded".
Both Logic and Csargo have claimed to be inferior players. I don't believe that, I just think they're playing with the opposing pieces.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:14
Although some say I'm actually "overloaded".
This must be why I do better when I have a space advantage, if you know what I'm sayin'.
We'll have a pizza eating contest, who is going to win? Me.
I'm not making fun, he said this stuff.
Logic isn't my strong suit. Neither are words. Or making good arguments. I'm bad at everything.
I think this post makes Csargo most likely to be town.
Montmorency
10-05-2017, 03:23
This must be why I do better when I have a space advantage, if you know what I'm sayin'.
We'll have a pizza eating contest, who is going to win? Me.
I'm not making fun, he said this stuff.
Multiple interlocking defensive arrangements are effective when you haven't yet made contact with the enemy, so that when you do you can exploit more opportunities?
Who said what stuff?
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:26
I think this post makes Csargo most likely to be town.
INCORRECT!
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:27
Who said what stuff?
Your favorite grandmaster.
Logic isn't my strong suit. Neither are words. Or making good arguments. I'm bad at everything.
My wife would very much you not claim me as a suit.
I am off to bed. This start has given me plenty to think on.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:29
My wife would very much you not claim me as a suit.
I am off to bed. This start has given me plenty to think on.
You're at minus a whole rook at this point.
Terrible!
INCORRECT!
Ehhh, no. I'm not convinced that scum stages that kind of joking breakdown so early and easily, I can't really see Csargo actually deciding to make that kind of post as scum, rather than a more standard rebuttal or backing down.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:40
Ehhh, no. I'm not convinced that scum stages that kind of joking breakdown so early and easily, I can't really see Csargo actually deciding to make that kind of post as scum, rather than a more standard rebuttal or backing down.
Dp posts his reasoning, Double Question Mark.
Like the confidence though, random and inappropriate as it may be.
Dp posts his reasoning, Double Question Mark.
Like the confidence though, random and inappropriate as it may be.
...have I not historically posted my reasoning here? Cause I could have sworn that I get scumread here moderately often for trying to solve the game too fast, or at least, me posting analysis on D1 is definitely not unusual for me.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:43
...have I not historically posted my reasoning here? Cause I could have sworn that I get scumread here moderately often for trying to solve the game too fast, or at least, me posting analysis on D1 is definitely not unusual for me.
Csargo town based on what you reasoned is a double question mark conclusion. Class dismissed!
Csargo town based on what you reasoned is a double question mark conclusion. Class dismissed!
分かった。
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:49
After a couple of opening blunders, black is in danger of either a lost rook or queen or both.
However, there hasn't been enough time to make even more mistakes. White still has several pieces to develop to fully capitalize.
Morphy would get all his pieces involved.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 03:51
I'm hoping for some pawn moves that allow for full piece development without opening too many weak squares in the position. If they stay in front of the pieces, there's a chance that black can still develop and get a checkmate in spite of the bad opening.
And when I said class dismissed I do kind have to log off. See you in the next video! Yes, you, in the audience! You can donate to my chess club, and remember, no donation is too large.
After a couple of opening blunders, black is in danger of either a lost rook or queen or both.
However, there hasn't been enough time to make even more mistakes. White still has several pieces to develop to fully capitalize.
Morphy would get all his pieces involved.
I posted in another language, yet I think I was still more understandable than this. I think you are saying that you think you might have caught 2 scum, but haven't got town on board yet due to them not being obvious enough, but I have no idea what you mean by the last sentence.
I'm hoping for some pawn moves that allow for full piece development without opening too many weak squares in the position. If they stay in front of the pieces, there's a chance that black can still develop and get a checkmate in spite of the bad opening.
And when I said class dismissed I do kind have to log off. See you in the next video! Yes, you, in the audience! You can donate to my chess club, and remember, no donation is too large.
Pizza translation attempt 2: He wants low posters to post more to allow people to read them, but hopes that they don't screw up and get mislynched. If they do nothing, then scum wins. At least this one was more straightforward.
I'm bored someone else post for a bit.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 04:11
I did a quick re-analysis before log off, and this is the position:
White pieces:
1) Askthepizzaguy (King, obviously)
2) Zack (Queen, how scandalous. Sorry, Sooh. Needs to reposition, IYKWIM)
3) reinoe (Knight, solid development)
4) dp101 (pawn pushed too early leaving weaknesses for black's knight)
5) GH (pawn on a solid square)
Black pieces:
1) Logic (Queen, gonna get trapped, already in danger)
2) Csargo (Knight, albeit on a good square for his team)
The rest of you:
??????
Computer says I'm at plus 5. Also, Zack and GH both in my town, double exclam. Nice.
Well turns out the translation attempt wasn't necessary. Also not sure if I should feel insulted for being called a pawn or not.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 04:22
Well turns out the translation attempt wasn't necessary. Also not sure if I should feel insulted for being called a pawn or not.
Type of piece = day one confidence level, to be adjusted on subsequent days with cause.
Ok seriously, class dismissed. That's as much help as I can give you on this salary. What salary? Exactly.
Type of piece = day one confidence level, to be adjusted on subsequent days with cause.
Ok seriously, class dismissed. That's as much help as I can give you on this salary. What salary? Exactly.
Ahhhhh, ok then.
Montmorency
10-05-2017, 04:23
Fine DP, that's pretty towny.
Unlike most contradictions, this one might even be meaningful. Bam!
Like me, Csargo is overworked, except he's defending two contradictory positions at once.
Although some say I'm actually "overloaded".
Both Logic and Csargo have claimed to be inferior players. I don't believe that, I just think they're playing with the opposing pieces.
Am I? I was fully unaware of any such positions.
I did a quick re-analysis before log off, and this is the position:
White pieces:
1) Askthepizzaguy (King, obviously)
2) Zack (Queen, how scandalous. Sorry, Sooh. Needs to reposition, IYKWIM)
3) reinoe (Knight, solid development)
4) dp101 (pawn pushed too early leaving weaknesses for black's knight)
5) GH (pawn on a solid square)
Black pieces:
1) Logic (Queen, gonna get trapped, already in danger)
2) Csargo (Knight, albeit on a good square for his team)
The rest of you:
??????
Computer says I'm at plus 5. Also, Zack and GH both in my town, double exclam. Nice.
This is the only post I understand from pizza.
This is the only post I understand from pizza.
Understandable.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 04:39
This is the only post I understand from pizza.
INCORRECT!
And when these other students figure it out, you'll be down a knight as well. The truth hurts!
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2017, 04:41
White's blindfolded, can't fake not knowing what's happening.
Black on the other hand, not blindfolded and the pretense at imperfect information is your largest blunder so far.
I calculated it out, and it doesn't look good for you. RAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRR!!!
INCORRECT!
And when these other students figure it out, you'll be down a knight as well. The truth hurts!
Every time I see you write incorrect, I imagine you yelling it at your screen as you type. It's highly amusing.
INCORRECT!
And when these other students figure it out, you'll be down a knight as well. The truth hurts!
The truth is only the truth if it is in fact true. Time makes fools of us all.
Every time I see you write incorrect, I imagine you yelling it at your screen as you type. It's highly amusing.
Oh man, that's good I'm can't stop laughing.
White's blindfolded, can't fake not knowing what's happening.
Black on the other hand, not blindfolded and the pretense at imperfect information is your largest blunder so far.
I calculated it out, and it doesn't look good for you. RAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRR!!!
Oh! Two posts now, I kinda understand this one as well. I'm learning!
Quick, give a read on me, I don’t think you’ve seen me play before so I’m curious as to what you think of my style.
AS OF POST #271
My read: maybe scum.
Post #167 and #198 Are lazy. I'm already tired of hearing how confused you are. What pizza is doing is really not that complicated. You clearly have access to the internet so you should have access to some sort of search enging like Yahoo or Google. A quick search would have given you the context of what ATPG was saying. You don't need to know about chess: you have to have an interest in actually trying to develop an understanding and you've shown no interest in doing that. #228 seems to be you being confused, which I've already grown tired of hearing about.
Post #236&242 "I DID A THING FOR NO REASON". Saying "I made a read and it's null /= I'm just gonna say NAI". I've seen people make a reaction test and decide that the reaction is null. You have eschewed that to just "meh".
#247. No effort read.
As for your style: it's spectacularly lazy. I don't mean joking around not solving kind of lazy. I mean just flat out lazy and posting to post.
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 05:42
Btw why doesnt this site have any good forum skins ;_;
Insta Vote: Slaan. I made two of those crappy skins you whipper snapper you!
Expand on why Pizza and GH are town while you're at it.
I'm gonna choose not to just to be obstinate.
AS OF POST #271
My read: maybe scum.
Post #167 and #198 Are lazy. I'm already tired of hearing how confused you are. What pizza is doing is really not that complicated. You clearly have access to the internet so you should have access to some sort of search enging like Yahoo or Google. A quick search would have given you the context of what ATPG was saying. You don't need to know about chess: you have to have an interest in actually trying to develop an understanding and you've shown no interest in doing that. #228 seems to be you being confused, which I've already grown tired of hearing about.
Post #236&242 "I DID A THING FOR NO REASON". Saying "I made a read and it's null /= I'm just gonna say NAI". I've seen people make a reaction test and decide that the reaction is null. You have eschewed that to just "meh".
#247. No effort read.
As for your style: it's spectacularly lazy. I don't mean joking around not solving kind of lazy. I mean just flat out lazy and posting to post.
So it's lazy for me to expect that other people should post in a manner that is easily understood without having to google things? More specifically, I have literally no chess knowledge, and so I wouldn't even know what part of the post quoted in 167 to put into google. I'm already tired of talking about how I tried joking about something and thought about reading someone off of it, but retracted it, so I'm not even going to address that point. I would love to know what you think I need to do to make a read worthwhile, because while you call post 247 a no effort read, you are missing 2 things: Firstly, me reading him town there was not just from that one post, but from his consistently natural behaviour congruent with standard town Zack gameplay, and secondly, I was joking in how confident I was because of his comment about him being annoyed with people strongly townreading him for no reason.
I love hearing someone call me lazy when I've posted 3-4 times as much as them. You claim that I'm posting just to post, but it's D1, that's my standard thing until someone actually makes a post that I feel I can make a case on them off of, and that hasn't happened yet. Thus, small jokes and reads. Quite frankly, the way you phrased this post makes it seem like you are trying to provoke me/insult me, and I think I should probably take a break so that I don't lash out more.
I'm gonna choose not to just to be obstinate.
Ok apparently I'm not stepping away to cool down, because this is the most hypocritical post in the thread. You literally call me lazy, and then in the very next post, decline to do some very simple work asked in a friendly matter by someone who is most likely not scum at this point. Vote: reinoe because not only is your behaviour not helping town whatsoever, but you also seem determined to tilt people to put them off their game.
I am seriously going to take a break after this because this game is just making me angry right now, and I really really don't want to get tilted.
http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/images/2016/07/fireworks.gif
http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/images/2016/07/fireworks.gif
Do something useful, make a read.
Ok apparently I'm not stepping away to cool down, because this is the most hypocritical post in the thread. You literally call me lazy, and then in the very next post, decline to do some very simple work asked in a friendly matter by someone who is most likely not scum at this point. Vote: reinoe because not only is your behaviour not helping town whatsoever, but you also seem determined to tilt people to put them off their game.
I am seriously going to take a break after this because this game is just making me angry right now, and I really really don't want to get tilted.
Well, you're clearly familiar enough with me to realize that I'm not going to town read someone just because they have a high post count because you quoted this post of mine earlier in your 271...
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
So it's clear that I don't care how often someone posts: I care about the quality. You can't possibly claim to be confused about this because, unlike ATPG, I've made my opinion on the matter unambiguously clear. As for "not helping town whatsover", You're more than welcome to think that. But I think in my 4-5 posts I've shown more determination to solve the game. Or I could make 1/3 of my posts talking about how confusing everything is because you appear to believe that's something that's helpful to town.
Well, you're clearly familiar enough with me to realize that I'm not going to town read someone just because they have a high post count because you quoted this post of mine earlier in your 271...
So it's clear that I don't care how often someone posts: I care about the quality. You can't possibly claim to be confused about this because, unlike ATPG, I've made my opinion on the matter unambiguously clear. As for "not helping town whatsover", You're more than welcome to think that. But I think in my 4-5 posts I've shown more determination to solve the game. Or I could make 1/3 of my posts talking about how confusing everything is because you appear to believe that's something that's helpful to town.
Posting that I am not understanding something is useful to town, because the point of posting is to communicate ideas, and if I'm not understanding someone's posts when they appear not to be jokes, it is very important that I say something so that everyone can cooperate and read each other with minimal confusion.
At no point did I say "please clear me, I posted a lot". When someone comes in and does one post of analysis that reads like it's a personal attack on me, centred around me apparently doing nothing, then refuses to answer a simple question, that's what ticks me off, not me not getting townread by you simply by posting a bunch. I don't care if you scumread me, I just want you to be consistent, and when you criticise me for something and then immediately exemplify it, can you understand why I'd get a little ticked off?
Cuthillius
10-05-2017, 06:28
pizza there's this guy in one of my classes who reminds me of you quite a lot
it's kinda funny
Cuthillius
10-05-2017, 06:33
i have no hot takes to drop
feel like getting >twice as much sleep as i did last night and coming back to this thread is probably the best course of action
Cuthillius
10-05-2017, 06:34
i did think dp's been a bit weird and the reaction test was really... stiff and ???
Cuthillius
10-05-2017, 06:35
also
logic i think i've always assumed you've played chess because y'know
i did think dp's been a bit weird and the reaction test was really... stiff and ???
Any comments on the current push on me?
Cuthillius
10-05-2017, 06:38
Any comments on the current push on me?
not much of a push
i think the push itself is p lazy
but yeah someone voted you and you ~steppedish out of thread?
not much of a push
i think the push itself is p lazy
but yeah someone voted you and you ~steppedish out of thread?
I just got annoyed, I'm back now.
Cuthillius
10-05-2017, 06:42
I just got annoyed, I'm back now.
fair enough
why do you think you got particularly upset over that in particular in particular in particular?
Do something useful, make a read.
I'm not a fan of Zack's lackadaisical(not sure if this fits entirely, but I think it does) attitude tbh, which is why I voted him. There's a lot of posts, but I expected more from him even though it's early. It's D1, so I'm not sure if I'm just reading too much into it or not.
ATPG is just sowing confusion imo, being cryptic but posting like it has a deeper meaning, and I feel like that's more likely scum pizza than town. He might just be having fun Rping though, that's also a possibility.
Don't think GH deserves a townread, but I think he's been slightly town, but more null really.
Your actions are odd, not sure what to make of them. Could go either way.
Think WH's posts have been good, but I've been burned before and that's still fresh. I'm suspicious.
Like reinoe's posts so far, look good. Time will tell.
I've got nothing else.
fair enough
why do you think you got particularly upset over that in particular in particular in particular?
Being repetitively called lazy for expecting other people to talk in plain english (and yes I know I jokingly wrote a single word in another language but it's not even close to the same order of magnitude) was pretty tilting, as was the apparent expectation that every single thing I posted needed to be 110% solving. In particular, him zeroing in on me as lazy and not having done anything when there were multiple people who have spent far larger portions of their posts today screwing around really annoyed me, especially given that my initial stance entering the thread was that people were screwing around too much. Idk, as much as I call my own town play terrible or worthless occasionally, I don't appreciate it when other people do. The way that the whole thing was phrased also stuck out to me as being designed as insults. I think you'ld agree with me that basically every point he made could have been made in a nicer way, and I could not figure out why he seemingly went out of his way to antagonise me.
I'm not a fan of Zack's lackadaisical(not sure if this fits entirely, but I think it does) attitude tbh, which is why I voted him. There's a lot of posts, but I expected more from him even though it's early. It's D1, so I'm not sure if I'm just reading too much into it or not.
ATPG is just sowing confusion imo, being cryptic but posting like it has a deeper meaning, and I feel like that's more likely scum pizza than town. He might just be having fun Rping though, that's also a possibility.
Don't think GH deserves a townread, but I think he's been slightly town, but more null really.
Your actions are odd, not sure what to make of them. Could go either way.
Think WH's posts have been good, but I've been burned before and that's still fresh. I'm suspicious.
Like reinoe's posts so far, look good. Time will tell.
I've got nothing else.
Ok, seems reasonable to me thus far. I feel though that right now, Pizza is more likely to just be having fun as town, rather than being scum. I'll probably wait and see with him, maybe his pushes are correct. You can have an extremely light town read.
'Sup
Medium Claim: 4th Party Hyperdimensional Alien Serial Survivor Pirate
(a pawn on the c-file)
Hot Takes:
Dp101's posts are good
Csargo's are scummy
Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less
Vote count:
Pizza (3): Winston Hughes, Zack, Csargo
Slaan (2): GH, Kagemusha
Zack (2): Montmorency, Reinoe
Logic(1): Pizza,
Reinoe (1): Dp101
Not voting (8): Fredwood, El Barto, Cuthillius, Manasi, Slaan, Choxorn, Logic, Xiahou,
With 17 players there are 9 to hammer.
EOD1:
https://pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1507413600.png
WALLS OF TEXT ON PAGE FIVE :wall:
Zack's good, Csargo is good, DP is good.
Pizza slightly scummy for read on reinoe after they had only posted like 3 times sassing Zack.
Speaking of which I'm going to scum read reinoe for wall of texting.
Just because I think it'll make voxx mad.
I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.
I chuckled at Winston's posts. +1 for him
Gonna get ready for class and proceed to ignore al of class.
Did you chuckle at any of my posts :pray:
I'm gonna choose not to just to be obstinate.
Why?
I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.
Have you played together before?
Hot Takes:
Dp101's posts are good
Csargo's are scummy
Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less
These takes are pretty lukewarm.
Not a fan of cuth in this page
He says nothing except trying to imply dp is being wolfy without actually saying it
But he should know this isn't wolfy at all for him
I'll stop here before someone complains more about me posting too much, unless someone responds
Did you chuckle at any of my posts :pray:
Yes bby I chuckled at all of them.
I thought that went without saying.
Have you played together before?
Yeah like several times iirc.
Not a fan of cuth in this page
He says nothing except trying to imply dp is being wolfy without actually saying it
But he should know this isn't wolfy at all for him
I'll stop here before someone complains more about me posting too much, unless someone responds
Pls post more.
Hot Takes:
Dp101's posts are good
Csargo's are scummy
Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less
Oh well.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 14:25
Yeah, dp's lock town. Take this read to the bank.
I also think it's highly likely that one or more of the people pushing him are mafia, because I literally came out and said the exact thing that Dp did w/r/t Pizza in fewer words and I'm taking ~no heat for it.
For reference:
Yeah, partly because I don't really feel like translating his posts into English at this point. What about you?
Whatcha gonna do now?
Yeah, dp's lock town. Take this read to the bank.
I also think it's highly likely that one or more of the people pushing him are mafia, because I literally came out and said the exact thing that Dp did w/r/t Pizza in fewer words and I'm taking ~no heat for it.
For reference:
Whatcha gonna do now?
I don't get the point you're making, are you saying dp is an easier target?
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 14:31
http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/images/2016/07/fireworks.gif
I feel like you posted this exact pic as mafia before in a similar situation.
Ok, seems reasonable to me thus far. I feel though that right now, Pizza is more likely to just be having fun as town, rather than being scum. I'll probably wait and see with him, maybe his pushes are correct. You can have an extremely light town read.
Maybe, but I don't see any reason to town read him at this point.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 14:33
I don't get the point you're making, are you saying dp is an easier target?
That's exactly what I'm saying. I think if it was an honest push on dp, the people making it would be roping me in as well and painting us with the same brush. Since I've pretty much escaped heat for it, I think the more likely explanation is that it's a calculated push designed to go after the person more likely to be mislynched (sorry dp).
Either that or it's just a lazy read in the first place because it's not a real read to begin with. :yes:
I feel like you posted this exact pic as mafia before in a similar situation.
He did in Pokemon
I think it's spurious to suggest it's meaningful in any way
tfw come itt with reads for the first time in like a decade and nobody cares SADBOI
I feel like you posted this exact pic as mafia before in a similar situation.
This is Sooh's pic from the Pokemon game.
tfw come itt with reads for the first time in like a decade and nobody cares SADBOI
Okee
Why is csargo """good""""" close quote
tfw come itt with reads for the first time in like a decade and nobody cares SADBOI
thx for calling me good. I appreciate your dedication to the cause.
He did in Pokemon
I think it's spurious to suggest it's meaningful in any way
I said I was enjoying the fireworks, Sooh posted pic, I said I liked it. I was scum.
tfw engage itt with manasi reads for the first time in like a overly long unit of time and she do not cares SADBOI
I said I was enjoying the fireworks, Sooh posted pic, I said I liked it. I was scum.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/customprofilepics/profilepic100591_1.gif
tfw engage itt with manasi reads for the first time in like a overly long unit of time and she do not cares SADBOI
damn cool post format where'd you get it
i think he's posting similarly to what i'd compare to his town play
that or
he has a rly strong partner
but prolly not that second point
That's exactly what I'm saying. I think if it was an honest push on dp, the people making it would be roping me in as well and painting us with the same brush. Since I've pretty much escaped heat for it, I think the more likely explanation is that it's a calculated push designed to go after the person more likely to be mislynched (sorry dp).
Either that or it's just a lazy read in the first place because it's not a real read to begin with. :yes:
When you said "people", do you mean reinoe and cuth?
damn cool post format where'd you get it
i think he's posting similarly to what i'd compare to his town play
that or
he has a rly strong partner
but prolly not that second point
what do you consider his mafia play
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 14:54
Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.
The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.
I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.
:creep:
Reinoe
Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.
Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Zack
ATPG and GH probably town.
This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.
Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?
It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber
Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.
Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.
DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.
Vote: Reinoe
what do you consider his mafia play
bad
:bow:
Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.
The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.
I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.
:creep:
Reinoe
This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.
Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?
It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber
Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.
Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.
DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.
Vote: Reinoe
https://i.imgur.com/01qxVAK.png
bad
:bow:
cyberbullying itt
cyberbullying itt
report me to the mods
how do u feel about the voxx alt zaccino
how do u feel about the voxx alt zaccino
:rtwno:
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 15:16
I demand something! Not quite sure what, but im a genius!I was a chessmaster even before i could grow beard and still i get no recognition even a single analyze for my vote for that insolent Slaan,who knows nothing about the finesse of the Org skins! This is scandalous!:crazy:
also
logic i think i've always assumed you've played chess because y'know
I haven't played chess since about the time that avatar was made. So, a decade or so? I've never considered myself very good. I'm capable of beating my parents and
i did think dp's been a bit weird and the reaction test was really... stiff and ???
Hmm. Why do you get a feeling that no one else seems to?
Logic's 10-minute take:
DP is town. DP is not teamed with Pizza, or Zack.
Csargo and Pizza are not teamed. One could be a wolf, but I don't think both.
Pizza feels really weird from normal. I can usually understand him a little, but here, he feels like he is playing 9 moves ahead to my 4. Not sure if he's on my team or not. I stand by my "seat of the pants" statement from earlier.
Cuth jumps in with some slight shade at DP. Is he suspicious of DP?
Kage shows up with what looks like a lazy vote on Slaan. Possibly a joke, but I think there's a more than reasonable chance that Kage is mafia.
Reinoe is the current target of DP's ire, and he is voting for me, (full disclosure, that that vote isn't being counted because it isn't bolded)
His vote on me looks like it stems only from Pizza's accusation. Not sure if sheeping, or he has other reasons for voting for me.
[b]Vote: Kagemusha[b/]
I demand something! Not quite sure what, but im a genius!I was a chessmaster even before i could grow beard and still i get no recognition even a single analyze for my vote for that insolent Slaan,who knows nothing about the finesse of the Org skins! This is scandalous!:crazy:
:shifty:
also
logic i think i've always assumed you've played chess because y'know
i did think dp's been a bit weird and the reaction test was really... stiff and ???
I haven't played chess since about the time that avatar was made. So, a decade or so? I've never considered myself very good. I'm capable of beating my parents and siblings, but that is about it.
Hmm. Why do you get a feeling that no one else seems to?
Logic's 10-minute take:
DP is town. DP is not teamed with Pizza, or Zack.
Csargo and Pizza are not teamed. One could be a wolf, but I don't think both.
Pizza feels really weird from normal. I can usually understand him a little, but here, he feels like he is playing 9 moves ahead to my 4. Not sure if he's on my team or not. I stand by my "seat of the pants" statement from earlier.
Cuth jumps in with some slight shade at DP. Is he suspicious of DP?
Kage shows up with what looks like a lazy vote on Slaan. Possibly a joke, but I think there's a more than reasonable chance that Kage is mafia.
Reinoe is the current target of DP's ire, and he is voting for me, (full disclosure, that that vote isn't being counted because it isn't bolded)
His vote on me looks like it stems only from Pizza's accusation. Not sure if sheeping, or he has other reasons for voting for me.
[b]Vote: Kagemusha[b/]
EDIT:
Vote: Kagemusha
I haven't played chess since about the time that avatar was made. So, a decade or so? I've never considered myself very good. I'm capable of beating my parents and
don't leave us hanging like that!
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 15:27
Another one who cant understand what true strategy is.Truly illogical! Unvote and Vote: Logic . Though i will get you for your slander Slaan, sooner rather then later!
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 15:29
Posting. Do you not see old chap?
That's exactly what I'm saying. I think if it was an honest push on dp, the people making it would be roping me in as well and painting us with the same brush. Since I've pretty much escaped heat for it, I think the more likely explanation is that it's a calculated push designed to go after the person more likely to be mislynched (sorry dp).
Either that or it's just a lazy read in the first place because it's not a real read to begin with. :yes:
Thanks for explaining in a more clear fashion what I was getting at. You can be town, for now.
Posting. Do you not see old chap?
Newsflash, RVS is pretty much over, it’s time for you to do work now.
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 15:35
Newsflash, RVS is pretty much over, it’s time for you to do work now.
May i ask what RVS is?
Vote count:
Pizza (3): Winston Hughes, Zack, Csargo
Slaan (1): GH,
Zack (2): Montmorency, Reinoe
Logic(2): Pizza, Kagemusha
Reinoe (2): Dp101, Fredwood
Kagemusha (1): Logic
Not voting (6): El Barto, Cuthillius, Manasi, Slaan, Choxorn, Xiahou,
With 17 players there are 9 to hammer.
EOD1:
https://pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1507413600.png
Posting. Do you not see old chap?
you were asking why no one was analyzing your vote
it was a joke vote because he didn't like forum skins, what's there to analyze?
May i ask what RVS is?
random voting stage
May i ask what RVS is?
The part of the game where everyone’s screwing around and posting/voting whatever. Stands for Random Vote Syndrome IIRC.
Also, professional manasi readers, what’s her alignment this time. I know that apparently her meta is only to care about the game if she’s scum, but I’m not sure if this amount of posts from her counts as caring about the game. She feels more solvey than normal.
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 15:39
you were asking why no one was analyzing your vote
it was a joke vote because he didn't like forum skins, what's there to analyze?
To me it is as valid as any vote during first round..Ive put few hours on those crappy skins back in the day. How is any other vote somehow more telling?
Also, professional manasi readers, what’s her alignment this time. I know that apparently her meta is only to care about the game if she’s scum, but I’m not sure if this amount of posts from her counts as caring about the game. She feels more solvey than normal.
:shrug:
To me it is as valid as any vote during first round..Ive put few hours on those crappy skins back in the day. How is any other vote somehow more telling?
What exactly are you looking for here? I didn't say it's not valid, I said there's nothing to analyze, because there isn't. Complaining about no one responding to it is just bizarre.
and when logic did talk about it, you just OMGUS'd him
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 15:48
:shrug:
What exactly are you looking for here? I didn't say it's not valid, I said there's nothing to analyze, because there isn't. Complaining about no one responding to it is just bizarre.
At least it got you to talk and Logic to vote. Is there something else we can do at the moment? Get people to talk and start drawing lines into thin air in order to find associations later? In the past Ive tried to play old style as town only observing at the start and got myself mis lynched enough times for lurking. So her i am talking. Lets talk.:yes:
people were already talking
you've done so in a superficial way
shirley there's something in the thread, unrelated to you, that you find interesting enough to talk about. Or some leans on who's a wolf and who isn't.
I have to go -- will be around tonight.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:01
Vote: Zack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlihFItzYEc)
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 16:03
I only know the style of few people playing. This morning when i went to through the thread, mostly it is just nonsense. Csargo seems like Csargo. So does GH. Pizza seems to be claiming some sort of ultimate knowledge which is completely normal for him. Choxorn drops by and does the minimum and you and Manasi seem to have some sort of sweet talking going on, which i think i recall also from earlier games. DP seems like he is on the verge of meltdown when it comes to mafia, which i can relate to quite well. I could not get any reaction from Slaan with my vote, which is too early for me to analyze. Logic seemed to be eager to react to my sudden activity, but thats about it. What have you observed so far? It would be lot easier to read it through one post then from myriad of posts.
Vote: Zack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlihFItzYEc)
Well that’s certainly S P I C Y but do you have any reasons behind this?
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:05
Well that’s certainly S P I C Y but do you have any reasons behind this?
One thing I never need is a reason for voting Zack.
Especially when he's just left the thread for a while.
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 16:06
https://i.imgur.com/01qxVAK.png
Am I pocketing your or are you pocketing me?
One thing I never need is a reason for voting Zack.
Especially when he's just left the thread for a while.
Ok, but do you have more reads than just that to share at this time?
I only know the style of few people playing. This morning when i went to through the thread, mostly it is just nonsense. Csargo seems like Csargo. So does GH. Pizza seems to be claiming some sort of ultimate knowledge which is completely normal for him. Choxorn drops by and does the minimum and you and Manasi seem to have some sort of sweet talking going on, which i think i recall also from earlier games. DP seems like he is on the verge of meltdown when it comes to mafia, which i can relate to quite well. I could not get any reaction from Slaan with my vote, which is too early for me to analyze. Logic seemed to be eager to react to my sudden activity, but thats about it. What have you observed so far? It would be lot easier to read it through one post then from myriad of posts.
One seemingly random vote for something very minuscule, and not related to the game? Yeah, I thought it was a tell. Especially since I don't see Slaan as a wolf.
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 16:10
One seemingly random vote for something very minuscule, and not related to the game? Yeah, I thought it was a tell. Especially since I don't see Slaan as a wolf.
And where does the thought of Slaan not being a wolf stems from? Do you know him from other games/forums or what are you basing on that assumption?
Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.
The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.
I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.
:creep:
Reinoe
This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.
Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?
It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber
Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.
Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.
DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.
Vote: Reinoe
Yeah, I am dead. Rest in Peace me.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:13
What have you observed so far?
For starters, off the top of my head:
I've observed Zack being a somewhat relaxed version of his usual self, making me want to keep poking him until the cracks show.
I've observed pizza doing the kind of thing that tends to put him under suspicion on D1 as town, but with a certain knowingness about it that makes me question just how many layers he's working through.
I've observed Dp101 looking like his awkward townie self.
I've observed GH playing it cool, but giving hints of underlying reservation.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:16
I'm only now starting to realise how good my impression of my town game was in the first day of that last game.
If I wasn't me, I'd suspect me right now.
This could prove problematic. :sweatdrop:
I have to go -- will be around tonight.
Vote: Zack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlihFItzYEc)
:thumbsdown:
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:18
:thumbsdown:
I knew you weren't gone! :verycool:
I only know the style of few people playing. This morning when i went to through the thread, mostly it is just nonsense. Csargo seems like Csargo. So does GH. Pizza seems to be claiming some sort of ultimate knowledge which is completely normal for him. Choxorn drops by and does the minimum and you and Manasi seem to have some sort of sweet talking going on, which i think i recall also from earlier games. DP seems like he is on the verge of meltdown when it comes to mafia, which i can relate to quite well. I could not get any reaction from Slaan with my vote, which is too early for me to analyze. Logic seemed to be eager to react to my sudden activity, but thats about it. What have you observed so far? It would be lot easier to read it through one post then from myriad of posts.
I'm not going to spoonfeed it to you
toodles
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 16:20
I'm not going to spoonfeed it to you
toodles
Is being helpful something too much to ask? :shrug:
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:26
i think he's posting similarly to what i'd compare to his town play
that or
he has a rly strong partner
but prolly not that second point
This is pretty much exactly what I said about Csargo D1 in the last game, where he was town and I was scum.
Not sure how to feel about that.
I'm only now starting to realise how good my impression of my town game was in the first day of that last game.
If I wasn't me, I'd suspect me right now.
This could prove problematic. :sweatdrop:
I’m not sure that scum winston lampshades this. Moderate town for now.
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 16:32
Well, that was a completely normal reaction.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:38
Hazy recall on Monty said quite scummy, but reading his ISO has turned me around.
I like him for town here, sticking his tool into interesting crevices and wiggling it about to see what happens.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:45
Either that, or he and Zack are scumbuddies (shades of Monty+pizza in Futuramafia?)
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 16:50
Trying to figure out why I townread Slaan last night. Quite a lot of posts for nothing substantive. I guess maybe the thought was that scum would make a point of saying something relevant.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:01
I'm wary of being affected by pizza's mystical bit, but reading Logic's ISO suggests an underlying sense of control that wasn't there in previous games.
Hey folks, Slaan in the house! Let me catch up quickly... and by quickly I mean ~1 hour or so for the 300ish posts >_>
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:19
I've got positive vibes on both Manasi and Kage, both on first read and ISO.
Can't really explain why, though, so let's call it 'tonal' for the time being.
Can we lynch pizza for all the chess references?
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:25
Can we lynch pizza for all the chess references?
Tempting, but the problem with lynching pizza D1 is that it's usually only possible when he's town.
Can we lynch pizza for all the chess references?
Very tempting, but there’s a tell he hasn’t dropped yet.
We still wouldnt have to deal with the chess references anymore so I'd call it an +EV lynch even if he is town
Sorry in a bit. TMNT: Mutant Apocalypse is on and I didn't prepare the DVR because I didn't expect it to be on.
Are you living in the 90s?
I expect exactly what has happened, doesn't mean I can't hold it against you though. It's a valid point, just not a damning one. Just a silly little argument. D1's are always silly, just go with it.
weak
Vote: csargo
Insta Vote: Slaan. I made two of those crappy skins you whipper snapper you!
Woa, maybe we should lynch you so you can go back to school in order to learn to make some good skins!
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:50
Not sure what to make of reinoe.
Interaction with Dp101 was the most heated (and most wallsome) exchange of the game to date, and it seems reinoe was being deliberately provocative there.
Town explanation is that it was done to get a readable reaction from Dp and/or push him to play better (by reinoe's standards - no judgement either way on my part).
Scum explanation is that it was done to get a scum-readable reaction from Dp, moving him back towards the lynchable zone, and/or changing the thread tone to something more easily manipulated.
I'm currently at this part and I think both are town. Dp101 just seems overall towny in tone and reaction and is trying to figure things out (I really liked post #310 of his) and reinoe seems unreasonable aggressive and obstinate which I hardly see from scum that mostly just want to blend in.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:57
That last explanation would leave space for reinoe/Dp being w/w.
Not very likely, but I can just about imagine it being cooked up in scum chat.
Hot Takes:
Dp101's posts are good
Csargo's are scummy
Zack, Pizza, Winston, and Monty all being themselves, more or less
More than a few people have ssaid DP's posts are good/townie. Why though? I'm not ruling out that he has a style I just don't like so enlighten me if you could.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:58
x-post with Slaan giving the most likely interpretation.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 17:59
More than a few people have ssaid DP's posts are good/townie. Why though? I'm not ruling out that he has a style I just don't like so enlighten me if you could.
chox can be extremely pure as scum, so I certainly wouldn't jump to call him town by any kind of tonal read.
I feel like Slaan is less comfortable than he should be (given that he's played with a lot of people in this game), so chances he randed wolf in his first org game pretty high.
Care you elaborate? Why do you think I wasnt comfortable?
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 18:00
Me fail at reading.
Dp getting townread for seeming awkward afaik, because he usually does as town, and generally doesn't as scum.
And where does the thought of Slaan not being a wolf stems from? Do you know him from other games/forums or what are you basing on that assumption?
I read his iso. To me, it looks more like a townie toeing the waters on a new group of people than someone with hidden information.
Tempting, but the problem with lynching pizza D1 is that it's usually only possible when he's town.
Winston, this... looks odd. It sounds to me like a willingness to lynch pizza, but an admission that you know he's town.
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 18:05
reinoe seems unreasonable aggressive and obstinate which I hardly see from scum that mostly just want to blend in.
Very much depends on the player. For example, Zack and pizza both tend to be a little more aggressive and obstinate as scum (by default; situational need is the main determinant).
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 18:06
Winston, this... looks odd. It sounds to me like a willingness to lynch pizza, but an admission that you know he's town.
Just experience talking. As much as I want to keep pizza under pressure, I'm leery of actually lynching him because, historically, it's been a very bad move.
Sup Jerks. So I read all this thread...lol@me I even viewed 7 minutes of the two minute videos posted.
The blowback confused, suss of Pizza for doing what he's doing feels almost concerted and deliberately obtuse to get the early discredit on him. The style is atypical, but I don't feel the content is atypical. (The one game I've played). Interesting how quickly the stance was backed off. I do have an issue with his town read of Rein, but will get into that later.
I like Zack, I also think he's villa, with a conditional hedge so I can move back my knight to starting position later. I've only played with town Zack, and he seems more solvey early in this game then those others. I hesitate to go full town core on him, but I'm not going to vote off top poster day 1.
:creep:
Reinoe
This post isn't accurate, if anything Zack is attacking or picking at people who are town reading him. He attacked both Pizza and GH's town read of him. If you want to get into how attacking your town reads is easy town equity, Well too late, Zack already pointed that out for easy town equity. Rein's post at best means he's not actually reading Zack's posts.
Csargo's agreement with Rein doesn't feel right either, he agrees with the inaccurate part of his post but not the rest of it?
It feels like a stretch to townread CS for his "I'm bad at eveyrthing" line after getting nuked by Zack in an argument. DP seems especially limpber
Can I say the DP/Rein interaction feels fake AF, from either one or both sides I'm not sure which. Read in spoiler if you're interested, otherwise Wall o' Text.
Rein drops for names in his hot take read post. Has associative reads based on Logic as if Logic has already flipped, but not pushing the actual logic flip. (I think Logic is scum, and I think Zack is scum for not talking to Logic, therefore I shall vote Zack...the F?) Meanwhile mentions Pizza and GH as town with no reasoning.
DP begs for him to drop a read on himself, and Rein has this bajillion word post he drops on DP about lazy and faking confusion...so you had that many thoughts on DP but didn't bring it up in your first post? During all this time he's ignoring Zack's question about his town reads and Monty's question about Winston. As if your town reads aren't just important for viewing your progression as town reads.
Vote: Reinoe
You're right. My town reads are not as important to me as my scumreads. And yes, I'm deliberately not answering Zack's question about said townreads. Although I disagree with what you're saying. DP seems genuinely frustrated in a "caught for the wrong reasons" kind of way and I'm sincere about getting tired of him constantly talking about being confused.
Although I didn't call logic sum for not talking to Zack. I didn't give a reason for why logic is scum (it's for 215 which seems so out of place). I said they're talking to each other. My reasons for thinking logic is suspicious is entirely separate.
Why?
Not telling. Just to be obstinate.
how do u feel about the voxx alt zaccino
Who is voxx?
I only know the style of few people playing. This morning when i went to through the thread, mostly it is just nonsense. Csargo seems like Csargo. So does GH. Pizza seems to be claiming some sort of ultimate knowledge which is completely normal for him. Choxorn drops by and does the minimum and you and Manasi seem to have some sort of sweet talking going on, which i think i recall also from earlier games. DP seems like he is on the verge of meltdown when it comes to mafia, which i can relate to quite well. I could not get any reaction from Slaan with my vote, which is too early for me to analyze. Logic seemed to be eager to react to my sudden activity, but thats about it. What have you observed so far? It would be lot easier to read it through one post then from myriad of posts.
How could I react when I'm not around lol. I think the critic was that there was plenty of other stuff going on you could've chimed in on, instead you complained that noone commented no your vote on me... A post such as this one is what Zack probably wanted/expected in the first place
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 18:17
You're right. My town reads are not as important to me as my scumreads. And yes, I'm deliberately not answering Zack's question about said townreads. Although I disagree with what you're saying. DP seems genuinely frustrated in a "caught for the wrong reasons" kind of way and I'm sincere about getting tired of him constantly talking about being confused.
Although I didn't call logic sum for not talking to Zack. I didn't give a reason for why logic is scum (it's for 215 which seems so out of place). I said they're talking to each other. My reasons for thinking logic is suspicious is entirely separate.
I don't care about your suss on Logic aside from the fact that you're not pushing him. My issue is you pushing Zack over logic because "Zack" didn't talk to logic. You're saying logic is scum, therefore Zack is scum because he's avoiding logic. Well get logic lynched first then go after Zack.
That last explanation would leave space for reinoe/Dp being w/w.
Not very likely, but I can just about imagine it being cooked up in scum chat.
Na, dp doesnt seem like the player to go along with something like that imo
That's exactly what I'm saying. I think if it was an honest push on dp, the people making it would be roping me in as well and painting us with the same brush. Since I've pretty much escaped heat for it, I think the more likely explanation is that it's a calculated push designed to go after the person more likely to be mislynched (sorry dp).
Either that or it's just a lazy read in the first place because it's not a real read to begin with. :yes:
No, you and DP are not acting in the same light. You've mentioned that Pizza was "confusing" twice. Once was along with a bunch of other reads in post 220. Again in post 260, but you only brought it up because someone directed a question to you.
DP has had multiple post talking about how ATPG is confusing completely unprovoked and unconnected to anything else.
I don't care about your suss on Logic aside from the fact that you're not pushing him. My issue is you pushing Zack over logic because "Zack" didn't talk to logic. You're saying logic is scum, therefore Zack is scum because he's avoiding logic. Well get logic lynched first then go after Zack.
No, I'm not saying logic is scum therefore zack is scum.
1. Logic is scum independently of Zack.
2. Zack has talked to everything that moves except logic. Therefore they're either masons/scum/neighbors. I stated this once already. Either way they're talking to each other OOT and thus have no reason to talk in thread.
3. Zack is scummy independent of Zack.
They are not necessarily scum together but somehow they are talking to each other.
Dp101 - Lock Town
Slaan - Town
Logic - Null
Csargo - Null
Monty - Third Party
pizza - scum
GH - scum
Zack - lock scum
Townreading for your 113.
"THIRD PARTY"? What. How and why would you come to that conclusion.
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 18:42
Woa, maybe we should lynch you so you can go back to school in order to learn to make some good skins!
Do not worry. I run a company for a living, not a graphic designer per se. Hopefully you turn out to be at least as good mafia player as i am a forum skin maker.:rolleyes: Welcome to the Org.:bow:
Cant get any scummyness out of you but i have to wonder how come Logic does not want to talk about why he thinks you are not scum. Maybe he doesnt like to to become too involved in the thread?
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 18:45
No, I'm not saying logic is scum therefore zack is scum.
1. Logic is scum independently of Zack.
2. Zack has talked to everything that moves except logic. Therefore they're either masons/scum/neighbors. I stated this once already. Either way they're talking to each other OOT and thus have no reason to talk in thread.
3. Zack is scummy independent of Zack.
They are not necessarily scum together but somehow they are talking to each other.
https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls7e18SQZO1qdnwiro1_500.gif
Winston Hughes
10-05-2017, 18:49
Townreading for your 113.
"THIRD PARTY"? What. How and why would you come to that conclusion.
It's my default read on Monty, probably because I don't understand what he's doing half the time as either town or scum.
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 18:50
Btw what is this ISO people keep rambling about? You people have dwelved so deep in this stuff that i need a mafia dictionary to understand you peeps.
Alright and I'm done catching up, yay. Overall impressions so far:
1. GH: Seems ok solvey but I know he can fake that as scum so he's just null in my book. Imo he has to be judged by his success in game and not by how towny he seems from posts alone.
2. Csargo: Didnt really like most of what he wrote, an early weird read that he immediatly backpaddled on.. wouldnt mind a lynch here today
3. dp101: Very towny from tone and AtE. From the comments I saw about him here he doesnt seem to be considered as the greatest player so him faking his frustration seems very unlikely
4. Pizza: ... I hope he stops with the rpg stuff or I'd consider vigging him if I had access to a vig.
5. Fredwood: Seems alright so far, not many posts but focused on solving the game.
6. El Barto: no poster
7. Montmorency: ... I'd call him toneally scummish atm.. there were alot of posts that feel off a bit. #119 akwardly trying to insert himself in our nonsense videogame discussion, his push on the 'reaction test' thingy (which I don't understand but I also don't care much), #250 is weird...
8. Zack: Actually don't have anything AI on him despite his many posts. The more memorable stuff was his reactions to being townread but thats just NAI in my book (since I sometimes do the same as both town and scum)
9. Cuthillius: weak pop in
10. Manasi: Manasi seemingly being solvey gives me the creeps. Also weird point made on my, how was I uncomfortable? Cautions sure being mostly w/ new folk but I didnt feel uncomfortable. Maybe a bit drunk but that's neither here nor there
11. Slaan: lock goat
12. Reinoe: The more I think about the more null she is. I don't think it very likely that her antagonizing attitude is wolfy but then again I don't see why not... given that its an alt an all. Maybe someone wants to try out a new strategy.
13. Choxorn: Who?
14. Winston Hughes: Almost same as Zack though I don't recall anything he said in regards to the game.
15. Logic: Didnt start solving really so far, a slight post on Kagemusha, a townread on me (which makes him scum ;))... I expect more!
16. Xiahou: ...
17. Kagemusha: Well his vote on me and then complaining that noone commented on it felt off... curious where he goes from here.
Where this leaves me:
dp101
Fred
GH, Zack, Winston
Csargo, Montmorency
... which isnt much now looking at it. The others are all basically null and I didnt want to put them all in there....
Yap :)
Gaaah, I couldn't help myself and was sneaking peeks at the thread on my phone. Found somewhere to sit down and pull out my laptop because I really want to say something.
re: why dp is town
No, it's not because "he's awkward as town and is being awkward here." I don't think that's necessarily true, anyways, but that's another discussion.
I recently hosted a game, a week or two ago, where DP was a wolf. I read his posts in the game, I read his posts in wolfchat. There are two specific things that I like from DP so far, and one vague thing.
1. He knows that I noticed how much he started randomly commenting on things as "spicy" in that game, and thought it was something people in the game should have been noticing in the game as being off. So, DP rands wolf here, and probably keeps that in mind as something to avoid, especially around me. But he did the opposite -- he specifically said it in a few times, tried to bring my attention to it, and wanted to gauge my reaction. That's a town move.
2. Reinoe called him out. Many wolves feel uncomfortable standing their ground and going toe to toe with someone in the thread, and so fall into the trap of being overly conciliatory in an awkward way. As mafia, I'd expect DP to respond to this in some form of "sorry I'm busy with school, I'll try to be better" or whatever. Instead, he basically told Reinoe: eff you, piss off.
3. The vague one. He just, seems town to me.
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Normally, this wouldn't elicit quite the rustle brush in me as it has here. But, the last time I thought town DP was being town DP and didn't speak loud enough against it, he was mislynched d1 and I was fairly pissed about it. Don't want that to happen again, so I'm planting my flag.
Also, I dislike the way Winston has danced around the DP read. Doesn't seem to actually be digging in for a read there, just throwing out stuff based on how the winds sound -- look at 451/453, he instantly changes from dangling out the w/w read to just saying, I agree with slaan, it's v/v. Then in 456 his explanation of why people are townreading DP reads like he's trying to subtly dismiss it as bad reasoning.
Also on Winston -- he called Kage town for no reason afaict (maybe protecting a partner?), and instead of giving actual reads on me/pizza has maintained a general aura of paranoia in that direction. It seems like what scum winston thinks town Winston would do.
I think reinoe could have sensed DP as someone he could push around and went for the throat. Kicking the puppy, as Renata and I think Monty have described it in the past. The level of being an abrasive, "I do what I want and I'm not nice about it!!!" feels overblown, like it's a performance. No person actually behaves like this unless it's an affectation.
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I'm keeping my eye on Manass. Like I've said in previous games, her scum meta is exactly this: pop in, not really do much, complain about people not talking to her, then leave. It's not exactly too far out of her town range either, to be fair... In my experience if she's a wolf she will play pretty straightforwardly pro-wolf, and that will probably become clearer after a few days.
Cuth too, blergh. This is my problem with d1, I always think way too many people are being suspicious. For now, DP, Fred, and Slaan are the only people I feel good about saying they're above null. Few people are null or slightly above or below it, maybe. Rest are in the poo pile.
When you said "people", do you mean reinoe and cuth? GeneralHankerchief, did you answer the above question?
Also, is there an intentional difference between how you play on here and off-site, MU specifically? You seem more ... enthusiastic there.
No, I'm not saying logic is scum therefore zack is scum.
1. Logic is scum independently of Zack.
2. Zack has talked to everything that moves except logic. Therefore they're either masons/scum/neighbors. I stated this once already. Either way they're talking to each other OOT and thus have no reason to talk in thread.
3. Zack is scummy independent of Zack.
They are not necessarily scum together but somehow they are talking to each other.
This has no basis in reality. I have talked to Logic, try re-reading the thread.
Do not worry. I run a company for a living, not a graphic designer per se. Hopefully you turn out to be at least as good mafia player as i am a forum skin maker.:rolleyes: Welcome to the Org.:bow:
This hurdle shouldnt be hard to overcome https://www.civforum.de/images/smilies/chi.gif Ty and thanks for having me :)
Cant get any scummyness out of you but i have to wonder how come Logic does not want to talk about why he thinks you are not scum. Maybe he doesnt like to to become too involved in the thread?
He did
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 18:53
Here's where I'm at right now:
I think Zack and Dp are still town.
I'm not particularly interested in lynching Pizza today even though I don't really have a read on him.
I think Kage is displaying some pretty decent towntells so far (willingness to get into it with people early on and picking his spots as they come) but I'm not giving him a pass for the full game yet.
Of the two Dp pushers I talked about earlier, I like Reinoe more than Cuth because Reinoe's explanations are decent and more well thought out than Cuth's.
I'm a little bit wary of Slaan right now because he's acting a bit different than in other games I've played with him in/read of his, but I think it can be chalked up to adjusting to a new environment for now.
I think Fred could be a bit better so far.
Vote: Cuth
Ok I put Zack townish for now just for wall posting right after I wallposted!
Btw what is this ISO people keep rambling about? You people have dwelved so deep in this stuff that i need a mafia dictionary to understand you peeps.
Isolating ppl, only looking it their posts in thread... GH made a 'how to' do it here in this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152962-Guide-for-players-coming-from-offsite
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 18:56
I think Fred could be a bit better so far.
I think your hat looks dumb
Here's where I'm at right now:
I think Zack and Dp are still town.
I'm not particularly interested in lynching Pizza today even though I don't really have a read on him.
I think Kage is displaying some pretty decent towntells so far (willingness to get into it with people early on and picking his spots as they come) but I'm not giving him a pass for the full game yet.
Of the two Dp pushers I talked about earlier, I like Reinoe more than Cuth because Reinoe's explanations are decent and more well thought out than Cuth's.
I'm a little bit wary of Slaan right now because he's acting a bit different than in other games I've played with him in/read of his, but I think it can be chalked up to adjusting to a new environment for now.
I think Fred could be a bit better so far.
Vote: Cuth
can you go into a little more detail on kage, slaan, and fred?
is kage less confrontational as scum? How is slaan different? How does this compare to your usual experience playing with fred?
Ok I put Zack townish for now just for wall posting right after I wallposted!
Wallposting is not aligntment-indicative in itself
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 18:59
Also, is there an intentional difference between how you play on here and off-site, MU specifically? You seem more ... enthusiastic there.
Yeah, there for sure is. It's tough to explain why, kind of just adapting to the environment. I wouldn't say I have a strict meta definition, simply because my meta has roughly the foundation of runny gravy at this point, but I definitely do. Does this change things for you at all w/r/t your read on me?
Wallposting is not aligntment-indicative in itself
Very true, just thought it funny how there are tons of small posts over those 16 sites and then suddently bam, two wallposts in a row.
I also read your post just now and I agree with most of what you said so yea, I update your fun upgrade to town to a real townish read :)
Yeah, there for sure is. It's tough to explain why, kind of just adapting to the environment. I wouldn't say I have a strict meta definition, simply because my meta has roughly the foundation of runny gravy at this point, but I definitely do. Does this change things for you at all w/r/t your read on me?
Not really.
I mean, I believe you gh
but I don't think you'd like about that regardless of your alignment
I guess it's just more about setting my expectations in this game for you. I got burned pretty hard in Pokemon, and outside of that I seem to always find something vaguely wolfy about you (e.g. the alias turbo where we called each other wolves until figuring it out at the very, very end).
I want to get better at reading you.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 19:04
can you go into a little more detail on kage, slaan, and fred?
is kage less confrontational as scum? How is slaan different? How does this compare to your usual experience playing with fred?
I'm most confident with my read on Kage, probably due to the whole "we've been playing together for 11 years thing". :tongue: Kage as scum, while he can certainly get down in the trenches when he needs to, tends to default more to the "consensus builder" type where he skates by, is friendly with everyone, and then cuts your throat at night. Town Kage says what's on his mind and I think there's a marked less concern for his own survival. I actually think he's lynched more as town than as mafia.
Slaan and Fred are on a notable tier down, though it's worth noting I haven't seen either of their scum games to this point (Fred might have been mafia once in a turbo but that doesn't count). I'm more comfortable reading Slaan simply from experience (observing his champs game, and being in there with him in Anni and being mafia to his town in Nego's Wild West game). It's hard to explain, just he's not hitting the tone tells he did in the other games yet. Give it time and I think I'll be able to nail him one way or the other.
Fred I'm least confident about but I think he's definitely had less engagement so far than he's capable of (yesyes, I know the same can be said for me, but I'm town so).
Kagemusha
10-05-2017, 19:06
Isolating ppl, only looking it their posts in thread... GH made a 'how to' do it here in this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152962-Guide-for-players-coming-from-offsite
Bad GH! Tracking tools for mafia games. Whats next?Language analyzer with database from previous games with percentages of different words used in different roles... I better shut up, before Monty creates one.:creep:
Slaan and Fred are on a notable tier down, though it's worth noting I haven't seen either of their scum games to this point (Fred might have been mafia once in a turbo but that doesn't count). I'm more comfortable reading Slaan simply from experience (observing his champs game, and being in there with him in Anni and being mafia to his town in Nego's Wild West game). It's hard to explain, just he's not hitting the tone tells he did in the other games yet. Give it time and I think I'll be able to nail him one way or the other..
Everyone note it down: If GH mislynches me kill GH :)
Do not worry. I run a company for a living, not a graphic designer per se. Hopefully you turn out to be at least as good mafia player as i am a forum skin maker.:rolleyes: Welcome to the Org.:bow:
Cant get any scummyness out of you but i have to wonder how come Logic does not want to talk about why he thinks you are not scum. Maybe he doesnt like to to become too involved in the thread?
I read his iso. To me, it looks more like a townie toeing the waters on a new group of people than someone with hidden information.
Please see the above quoted post.
Btw what is this ISO people keep rambling about? You people have dwelved so deep in this stuff that i need a mafia dictionary to understand you peeps.
Isolated posts of a single poster.
I think your hat looks dumb
Well, I think your avatar looks smug. :tongue:
I'm most confident with my read on Kage, probably due to the whole "we've been playing together for 11 years thing". :tongue: Kage as scum, while he can certainly get down in the trenches when he needs to, tends to default more to the "consensus builder" type where he skates by, is friendly with everyone, and then cuts your throat at night. Town Kage says what's on his mind and I think there's a marked less concern for his own survival. I actually think he's lynched more as town than as mafia.
Slaan and Fred are on a notable tier down, though it's worth noting I haven't seen either of their scum games to this point (Fred might have been mafia once in a turbo but that doesn't count). I'm more comfortable reading Slaan simply from experience (observing his champs game, and being in there with him in Anni and being mafia to his town in Nego's Wild West game). It's hard to explain, just he's not hitting the tone tells he did in the other games yet. Give it time and I think I'll be able to nail him one way or the other.
Fred I'm least confident about but I think he's definitely had less engagement so far than he's capable of (yesyes, I know the same can be said for me, but I'm town so).
ok, I can see what you're saying about kage, makes me feel a lot better about him. I vaguely remember some game where Pizza caught him d1, then screamed about it the whole game after that ... ? Askthepizzaguy do you remember what game this was? I don't think there were flips if that helps, might have been vanilla~ish.
disagree on the others. slaan seems fine, maybe he's a good wolf but not worth pursuing this early based on just paranoia. In my experience, having low thread involvement is not alignment-indicate for fred and fairly typical
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 19:09
I mean, I believe you gh
but I don't think you'd like about that regardless of your alignment
I guess it's just more about setting my expectations in this game for you. I got burned pretty hard in Pokemon, and outside of that I seem to always find something vaguely wolfy about you (e.g. the alias turbo where we called each other wolves until figuring it out at the very, very end).
I want to get better at reading you.
If I knew I'd honestly tell you. :laugh4:
The past six months I've tried out so many different playstyles over a few different sites it feels like I'm Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder forgetting who his natural self is.
Sorry if that's a crappy answer. :shrug: It does make me continue feel good about you though.
If Kage has been around that long, how does he not know what ISO is?
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 19:10
Bad GH! Tracking tools for mafia games. Whats next?Language analyzer with database from previous games with percentages of different words used in different roles... I better shut up, before Monty creates one.:creep:
Kommodus probably has just a program like this collecting dust and cobwebs somewhere.
logic -- what do you think of the townreads kage has been getting?
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 19:12
cool
I feel like you were more active at least slightly in your self-defense in X-Com, I guess I should re-read that.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2017, 19:13
If Kage has been around that long, how does he not know what ISO is?
A lot of the terminology we've been using here, including ISO, was only recently introduced (and Kage doesn't play that much). I like the question though.
I feel like you were more active at least slightly in your self-defense in X-Com, I guess I should re-read that.
I honestly don't even know what's going on anymore. I said something about Zack that I thought was true at the time, and said it wasn't that important in the grand scheme of things. Now I'm getting shit on for it, which is fine, but I'm not sure what I'm sure what you expect me to defend myself from.
Fredwood
10-05-2017, 19:20
Oh good, the iso only works for one day phase.
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