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kataphraktoi
01-10-2003, 15:57
Someone gimme quick info on this new unit (ooh so terrifying but will get trampled by real cavalry units in the game) for the Xpack

A quik pic fix will do nicely

Cousin Zoidfarb
01-10-2003, 17:44
Osprey Men-At-ARms series published a handbook entitled ``Saracen Faris``. It basically described muslim cavalry which I think was armoured.

Kraxis
01-10-2003, 17:53
Yes, my search came up quite empty besides plenty of sites for cavalry in the American Civil War.
But what I understood was that they were some type of heavy cavalry for the Saracens against the Crusaders. It is also mentioned that they used bows now and then, so perhaps it is a Heavy Horse Archer unit with lances??? That would be interesting.

Cousin Zoidfarb
01-10-2003, 18:13
Try this link:

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_detail.php/title=P4539~ser=WAR

Knight_Yellow
01-10-2003, 18:25
From the pic in that link they would appear to be hvy horse archers with some meelee ability.

w00tage
01-11-2003, 00:02
it would be good if you could decide for them to be cav archers or cav at the start of each battle http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

longjohn2
01-11-2003, 00:49
They have pink shields

Tmscience
01-11-2003, 06:08
pink shields should be interesting http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Kraxis
01-11-2003, 20:55
Thanks LJ for coming here and teasing us with such info. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
How could you do that to us???? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Now that you have noticed this thread could you perhaps come with some more substantial info? Now that would even out the little incident before. hehe

Spino
01-12-2003, 23:13
From what little I've read Faris Cavalry should be something in between Byzantine Cavalry and Pronoiai Allagion. They should NOT be expected to give the Muslim factions an equivalent to the heavy cavalry of the Catholic factions.

Kraxis
01-13-2003, 14:39
Spino, nobody said that they should be as powerful as the knights (which Pronoiai Allagion is).

Spino
01-14-2003, 02:19
Quote[/b] ]Spino, nobody said that they should be as powerful as the knights (which Pronoiai Allagion is).

Understood. I didn't want people to get their hopes up... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Hosakawa Tito
01-14-2003, 02:59
Well, I'm sure with their pink shields,fairy..er.. faris cav, will have the western knights laughing so hard that they unhorse themselves, making them easier to kill. There's more than one way to skin a christian. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Kraxis
01-14-2003, 04:11
It is high noon in the desert...
The two armies are lined across from each other, the troops are roasting in their armour. From each side the most noble troops advance.

The knights stop...

The Faris stop...

Knight 1: "Saracen scum I say you smell like cameldroppings"

Faris trooper 1: "Stupid infidels, we will make you eat those words right back, you tincans"

Knight 1: "WHAT??? Tincans???"
Knight 2: "It isn't invented yet m'Lord, but it is insult to us."
Knight 1: "Ohh... I better make a great comeback then. You follow a deranged lunatic
Knight 2: "That was a good one Sire. *giggle*"

Faris trooper 1: *gasp*
Faris trooper 2: "Quickly respond Exhalted one."
Faris trooper 1: *grumbling* "HA At least we don't lie to ourselves, like we are eating our saviours flesh and drinking his blood CANNIBALS"

Knight 1: "You... You... You pansyass womans Wearing pink in battle Are you trying to look like flowers???"
Knight 2: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA"
*entire army begins to laugh loudly*

Faris trooper 1: *almost falls of horse* "GAH He dared insult my beautiful shield. How could he do that??? It is perfect, I bought at the most prominent Armourer in Baghdad I will not stand for such abuse at my job, we're leaving"

The Saracens begin to withdraw from to withering barrage of insults, while the Frankish army laughs louder and louder, knights falling from their horses, spearmen hanging over their shields.
The last Saracen soldier, lowly Peasant notices the laughing mass, but shakes his head...

Sainika
01-14-2003, 09:36
'al-faris' means 'horseman' in arabic. Faris cavalry was an elite was, heavy-coated with lances and swords (though as for sword, I'm not sure). It consisted of noblemen and headed by general of royal family.
Faris cavalry is very similar to Sipahi, and may be considered as analogue of western knights.

Rosacrux
01-14-2003, 12:15
Quote[/b] (longjohn2 @ Jan. 10 2003,17:49)]They have pink shields
Pink? Like, girl power? flower power and the such?

They would make a tremendous couple with the hashishin... flowers and weed... what a combo... poor muslims http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif