Asmodeus
01-13-2003, 13:39
(sorry, long rambling post!http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I was playing a GA Campaign game (Early, Normal) as the Almohads (or however you spell it) and although I was in a very strong position with a large empire including all of the Iberian peninsular, the barbary coast as far as Egypt and both Corsica and Sardinia, I was having serious financial problems. My large armies were recovering and retraining after a furious attack from the Egyptians in North Africa (3,500 strong army against my 2000) and a French crusade in Aragon - which actually did less damamge than the Egyptians and after a few more years everyone deserted lol
My trade has really suffered though. My fleets once stretched from the Baltic right around through the Med into the black sea and far eastern Med. But they have been attacked ceaselessly and although I must have sunk about 50 or more enemy ships I have been forced to withdraw from some areas and I am being blockaded in others. My trade has dropped from about 4500 florins per turn to about 500. Things were looking serious; I had only one Ally, the Turks who were busy fighting tooth and nail with Bysantia (and whom I was blockaded from trading with) and I was neutral with the Danes and the Papal states which provided a small amount of trade.
So I decided to try and sue for peace with some of my not so fanatical enemies to help recover my economy and build up my navy again. England, France, Italy, Egypt and Bysantia all refused a ceasefire (several factions were already eliminated at this point including the spanish and Aragonaise). So after my most experienced emersaries returned empty handed, I decided to pick on the two states that I least wanted war with (the idea being to force them to offer peace) so I concentrated most of my navy and completely destroyed the fleets of Italy and England and blockaded them. No trade and the very serious risk of rampaging muslims invading their lands would surely make them think again.
I waited a couple of turns but no emersaries arrived - so I sent my own to again ask if they would agree to a ceasefire - again they said no. Grrrrrr. Must I really burn and defile all that you value to make peace????
Well there wasnt much I could do and the Bysantine navy was causing me grave problems in the eastern med, so while continuing the blockade on England and Italy with slightly fewer ships, I sent reinforcements to try and hold both Bysantia and Egypt at bay.
A few turns later I noticed a new Italian ship had appeared off their coast so I immediately sent the blockade ships to sink it, but lo and behold it was neutral I thought maybe I was going colour blind so I checked the alliances screen and except for England and France all my enemies were now neutral with me and the Turks still allied. But there was no notification that the war had ended, I dont even recall seeing any enemy emersaries in my provinces (they tend to meet with violent unexpected death when they visit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) - so I wonder what happened??? Is it a bug?
The only thing I can guess that may have affected it was the Victory Points were awarded the previous turn and my extra 14 points put me in first place. But why would my enemies suddenly go neutral on me without informing me?
Have any of you experienced this?
I was playing a GA Campaign game (Early, Normal) as the Almohads (or however you spell it) and although I was in a very strong position with a large empire including all of the Iberian peninsular, the barbary coast as far as Egypt and both Corsica and Sardinia, I was having serious financial problems. My large armies were recovering and retraining after a furious attack from the Egyptians in North Africa (3,500 strong army against my 2000) and a French crusade in Aragon - which actually did less damamge than the Egyptians and after a few more years everyone deserted lol
My trade has really suffered though. My fleets once stretched from the Baltic right around through the Med into the black sea and far eastern Med. But they have been attacked ceaselessly and although I must have sunk about 50 or more enemy ships I have been forced to withdraw from some areas and I am being blockaded in others. My trade has dropped from about 4500 florins per turn to about 500. Things were looking serious; I had only one Ally, the Turks who were busy fighting tooth and nail with Bysantia (and whom I was blockaded from trading with) and I was neutral with the Danes and the Papal states which provided a small amount of trade.
So I decided to try and sue for peace with some of my not so fanatical enemies to help recover my economy and build up my navy again. England, France, Italy, Egypt and Bysantia all refused a ceasefire (several factions were already eliminated at this point including the spanish and Aragonaise). So after my most experienced emersaries returned empty handed, I decided to pick on the two states that I least wanted war with (the idea being to force them to offer peace) so I concentrated most of my navy and completely destroyed the fleets of Italy and England and blockaded them. No trade and the very serious risk of rampaging muslims invading their lands would surely make them think again.
I waited a couple of turns but no emersaries arrived - so I sent my own to again ask if they would agree to a ceasefire - again they said no. Grrrrrr. Must I really burn and defile all that you value to make peace????
Well there wasnt much I could do and the Bysantine navy was causing me grave problems in the eastern med, so while continuing the blockade on England and Italy with slightly fewer ships, I sent reinforcements to try and hold both Bysantia and Egypt at bay.
A few turns later I noticed a new Italian ship had appeared off their coast so I immediately sent the blockade ships to sink it, but lo and behold it was neutral I thought maybe I was going colour blind so I checked the alliances screen and except for England and France all my enemies were now neutral with me and the Turks still allied. But there was no notification that the war had ended, I dont even recall seeing any enemy emersaries in my provinces (they tend to meet with violent unexpected death when they visit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) - so I wonder what happened??? Is it a bug?
The only thing I can guess that may have affected it was the Victory Points were awarded the previous turn and my extra 14 points put me in first place. But why would my enemies suddenly go neutral on me without informing me?
Have any of you experienced this?