HBO's Chernobyl [Archive]

Shaka_Khan

06-03-2019, 03:05

https://www.hbo.com/chernobyl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8

Chernobyl, a five-part miniseries co-production from HBO and Sky, dramatizes the story of the 1986 nuclear accident, one of the worst man-made catastrophes in history — and of the sacrifices made to save Europe from unimaginable disaster.

Premiering May 6, and followed by subsequent episodes each Monday, Chernobyl stars Emmy-nominee Jared Harris (The Crown, Mad Men), Stellan Skarsgård (Melancholia, Good Will Hunting) and Oscar-nominee Emily Watson (Hilary and Jackie, Breaking the Waves).

Chernobyl is written and executive produced by Craig Mazin (The Huntsman: Winter’s War) and directed by Johan Renck (Breaking Bad). Produced by Sister Pictures and The Mighty Mint as an HBO/Sky co-production, Emmy-winner Carolyn Strauss (Game of Thrones) and Jane Featherstone (Broadchurch) serve as executive producers while Johan Renck and Chris Fry (Humans) co-executive produce. Sanne Wohlenberg (Black Mirror) also produces.

On April 26, 1986, the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Ukraine, Soviet Union suffered a massive explosion that released radioactive material across Belarus, Russia and Ukraine and as far as Scandinavia and western Europe.....
Has anyone watched this? I heard that it's one of the most scariest mini-series ever made.

drone

06-03-2019, 13:26

I've been watching it. It's very well done, good acting and great atmosphere. If you do watch it, they also have a podcast, one per episode, with the producer Mazin, where they discuss the history of the episode's events and how the show tried to portray them. Also recommended, as in the former Soviet Union, fact was stranger than fiction...

Gilrandir

06-03-2019, 17:33

Ukrianian people related to the powerplant and the procedure of liquidating the consequences have spotted some inaccuracies and slantings.

Meanwhile some British blame it for the lack of black characters.
https://www.rt.com/news/460958-chernobyl-hbo-racial-diversity-actors/
There were no blacks in or around the power plant, so introducing some would aggravate the extant shortcomings of the show.

ReluctantSamurai

06-03-2019, 17:41

Ukrianian people related to the powerplant and the procedure of liquidating the consequences have spotted some inaccuracies and slantings

I find the mini-series very well done and highly entertaining. I am not familiar enough with all of the particulars to know what the inaccuracies/slantings are:shrug:

And you just knew that PC would rear it's ugly head, at some point:crazy:

Gilrandir

06-03-2019, 17:51

I find the mini-series very well done and highly entertaining. I am not familiar enough with all of the particulars to know what the inaccuracies/slantings are:shrug:

I didn't watch the show, so I would repeat what I heard from people who did and who know the inside stuff (of the power plant, not of the show). They said it was ridiculous to show a leadboarded truck at the time of the accident - and even later military APCs were used to travel in the zone. Radiation meters were not fixed outside the vehicles - each of them was equipped with one inside. The helicopter fell into the ruins of the power plant half a year after the catastrophe - in October 1986. These are only the first 3 inadequacies mentioned in the article which I didn't read further.

edyzmedieval

06-04-2019, 13:11

внимание, внимание!

I really want to watch the series, Chernobyl had an impact in Romania as well.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

06-04-2019, 14:43

внимание, внимание!

I really want to watch the series, Chernobyl had an impact in Romania as well.

It had an impact everywhere - there were sheep in Cumbria who couldn't be sold or moves for decades after without special permits.

Pannonian

06-06-2019, 22:57

It had an impact everywhere - there were sheep in Cumbria who couldn't be sold or moves for decades after without special permits.

But funnily enough, the area around Chernobyl is now thriving with wildlife. Bad though a nuclear meltdown is, in the long run it's still less damaging than modern civilisation.

drone

06-07-2019, 00:54

Russian TV to create it's own Chernobyl show, with blackjack and hookers... (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/04/putins-media-struggle-to-deal-with-hbos-chernobyl-a65866)
I guess the show's premise of humiliating a system that is obsessed with not being humiliated rings true. The HBO show makes heroes out of the people cleaning up the mess, but whatever...

I also take this time to admonish Valve for dropping the ball here. The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. bundle is $40 on Steam, even though the game came out in 2007. How about a quick sale to take advantage of the interest? ~D

the tokai

06-07-2019, 11:38

CrossLOPER

06-09-2019, 20:57

Husar

06-10-2019, 03:08

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/06/06/why-hbos-chernobyl-gets-nuclear-so-wrong/#28cfd4a7632f

It wasn't that bad. Nuclear power is great. Solar power kills more birds. Radiation sickness is perfectly survivable. Barely anyone got cancer.

Seems like a terrible author when you look up the institute he co-founded and what it does.
Btw, you can also survive cancer, so nuclear really isn't that bad. :clown:
I'm a huge fan of using that huge yellow nuclear fusion plant in the sky for energy...don't try to collect too much of it with your skin though, that way there's more cancer...

Montmorency

06-10-2019, 05:07

Seems like a terrible author when you look up the institute he co-founded and what it does.
Btw, you can also survive cancer, so nuclear really isn't that bad. :clown:
I'm a huge fan of using that huge yellow nuclear fusion plant in the sky for energy...don't try to collect too much of it with your skin though, that way there's more cancer...

Is he correct in evaluating the show's portrayal of radiation sickness, though?

Russian TV to create it's own Chernobyl show, with blackjack and hookers... (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/04/putins-media-struggle-to-deal-with-hbos-chernobyl-a65866)

If the Russian mainstream despises the show, Gilrandir is obligated to like it. :wiseguy:

Husar

06-10-2019, 12:58

Is he correct in evaluating the show's portrayal of radiation sickness, though?

Probably, but until he buys a house right next to the Chernobyl reactor to live there with his family, I'm not buying that the whole radiation scare isn't so bad.

Gilrandir

06-10-2019, 15:10

If the Russian mainstream despises the show, Gilrandir is obligated to like it. :wiseguy:

If you were observant, some days ago in this thread I claimed I didn't watch it. And my mind does not change with the setting and rising of a few suns. Since it happened so close (both in time and distance) I don't need any show to tell me the story of the tragedy again. I expect a Titanic survivor wouldn't like to watch the movie either. Although, I might be wrong in this. I wouldn't, anyway.

Gilrandir

06-10-2019, 15:11

Probably, but until he buys a house right next to the Chernobyl reactor to live there with his family, I'm not buying that the whole radiation scare isn't so bad.

What if he wrote his book in this house? Can the influence of radiation account for his views?

Husar

06-10-2019, 16:53

What if he wrote his book in this house? Can the influence of radiation account for his views?

I think that is a possibility, you never know with quantum science.
A quantum science once fell on the head of the friend of my cousin's grandmother's barber's dog and he hasn't been the same since.

Gilrandir

06-11-2019, 04:31

A quantum science once fell on the head of the friend of my cousin's grandmother's barber's dog and he hasn't been the same since.

You mean "a thick book on quantum science"?

Husar

06-11-2019, 14:51

You mean "a thick book on quantum science"?

Due to the nature of the quantum science, we cannot know what exactly it was. It was definitely a Schrödinger's Quantum Science.

Gilrandir

06-11-2019, 16:34

Due to the nature of the quantum science, we cannot know what exactly it was. It was definitely a Schrödinger's Quantum Science.

Evidently both. The book and the science.

Strike For The South

06-11-2019, 16:37

Russians never cease to amaze me. Good show.

Gilrandir

06-11-2019, 16:41

Russians never cease to amaze me. Good show.

Like "Russians who are not satisfied with the show" or like "Russians IN the show"? If the latter than most people which the show features are not Russians. They are Ukrainians.

Strike For The South

06-11-2019, 16:51

Like "Russians who are not satisfied with the show" or like "Russians IN the show"? If the latter than most people which the show features are not Russians. They are Ukrainians.

Both. Perhaps the better word was Soviet. Of course Russia would have you believe everything east of Poland and north of Greece is Russia.

Husar

06-11-2019, 19:40

If the latter than most people which the show features are not Russians. They are Ukrainians.

They all look the same to me. ~;p

Gilrandir

06-12-2019, 09:46

They all look the same to me. ~;p

Then try to smell them. Ukranians would be smelling of salo, Russians of vodka.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

06-12-2019, 16:49

But funnily enough, the area around Chernobyl is now thriving with wildlife. Bad though a nuclear meltdown is, in the long run it's still less damaging than modern civilisation.

This is not exactly true.

Some areas in the exclusion zone are thriving with wildlife, but the animals have been observed to not live as long, and other areas remain utterly dead.

The plant exploded but it didn't leave some sort of magical miasma in a perfect ring around the reactor dome - there are hotspots and coldspots of radiation. Some areas are entirely liveable, some a deadly within a few hours or less.

It's a widely recognised fact that the Nuclear Power we use is pretty much the most dangerous form of the technology, and we use it primarily because it doubles up as a way to make fissile material for bombs.

Montmorency

06-13-2019, 22:53

Then try to smell them. Ukranians would be smelling of salo, Russians of vodka.

Xохрюшка? :creep:

Gilrandir

06-14-2019, 10:05

Xохрюшка? :creep:

Didn't get it. It's not a word, either in Russian or in Ukrainian.

CrossLOPER

06-14-2019, 18:30

Didn't get it. It's not a word, either in Russian or in Ukrainian.

The only thing I can guess is that he misspelled корюшка, but that does not even make sense in context.

Montmorency

06-14-2019, 19:44

Gilrandir

06-15-2019, 04:26

хохлушка (https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D0%BE%D1%85%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0) + хрюшка (https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D1%80%D1%8E%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0) = Xохрюшка

It's a Level 0 pun. Pork fat. :creep:

So, the first word is a derogatory name for a Ukrainian woman, the second is an endearing word for a pig. How does it bear on pork fat? :dizzy2:

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

06-19-2019, 19:19

So, the first word is a derogatory name for a Ukrainian woman, the second is an endearing word for a pig. How does it bear on pork fat? :dizzy2:

You are except linguistic sophistication (or competency) from an American?

Beskar

06-19-2019, 21:00

You are except linguistic sophistication (or competency) from an American?

Auto-correct is a real pain in the behind isn't it? :laugh4:

Montmorency

06-20-2019, 01:33

You are except linguistic sophistication (or competency) from an American?

C'mon, is it not obviously in reference to salo?

Gilrandir

06-20-2019, 08:48

You are except linguistic sophistication (or competency) from an American?

You mean like "You accept linguistic ..." or like "You can expect anything except linguistic ..." ?

Well, I expect competence from anyone who sports his Russian skills whenever he gets a chance.

C'mon, is it not obviously in reference to salo?

I could accept it if you were more careful with using derogatory names for nations. Otherwise I expect that next you would come up with something like wopasta (wop+pasta), shakshukike (shakshuka+kike), niggeribs (nigger+ribs). Or would these be considered unacceptable for a public forum like this? Or does using Cyrillic absolve you from being considered abusive?

Montmorency

06-20-2019, 16:54

Well, I expect competence from anyone who sports his Russian skills whenever he gets a chance.

I've owned that my Russian is uneven, but sometimes the context is ripe.

Otherwise I expect that next you would come up with something like wopasta (wop+pasta), shakshukike (shakshuka+kike), niggeribs (nigger+ribs). Or would these be considered unacceptable for a public forum like this?

Those don't work well as puns.

Or does using Cyrillic absolve you from being considered abusive?

My understanding was that khokhol is considered a fairly playful sobriquet like "limey" or "cheesehead". I apologize for being a goat.

Gilrandir

06-20-2019, 16:58

Those don't work well as puns.

They are not meant as puns but as telescopic words (like brunch= breakfast + lunch).

My understanding was that khokhol is considered a fairly playful sobriquet like "limey" or "cheesehead". I apologize for being a goat.

For a Russian who uses it, it may be what you describe. Not so for Ukrainians. But the apology is accepted.:bow:

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

06-21-2019, 22:52

You mean like "You accept linguistic ..." or like "You can expect anything except linguistic ..." ?

£Expect" was what I meant.

Dyslexia is the bane of my wit - I'm at least 400% funnier in real life, 800% if you're a woman.