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middy
01-28-2003, 10:54
Lets hear it

Here is mine:

I was playing the english at moderate setting, and for the 10th time trying to beat the scots(sigh). I had my king and almost my entire army up there to beat them. I beat them and decide to take on ireland. Bases on my previous experience I send everything I got to ireland and beat them easily. But what is this?.. Ireland has no harbor i cannot move back.

The god damn french siese the chance and invade pratically all my contries on my mainland, where I have some units but all valor 0 and no prince. I immidiatly retaliate with the only prince I got home and a few units from north england and land them in west france lifting one of the siges. What does the french do?.. charge into north england ofcourse where I just had removed all my defends DOUGH. My crusade suddenly goes to hell cause i lost my chapterhouse. All of england is open to the french and my damn main army is STILL on ireland and I couldent afford a god damn harbor cause I lost most of my income http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif((

I turned the damn machine off and went to bed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Brutal DLX
01-28-2003, 11:03
Lol, I'm sorry. Really.

Anyway, my biggest mistake (that I can still recall, I made so many..), was leaving the Atlantic ocean squares uncovered, that way the Almohads launched a backdoor assault to Ireland and Scotland, where I had nothing but garrison forces in all of Britain...

PanthaPower
01-28-2003, 11:11
I guess everyone makes the same mistake as Middy teh first time. Me included.... Well, one positive note, you won't be doing that again I guess.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord of the Isles
01-28-2003, 11:41
I was the Turks, Early, Expert. The game was mine, since I had taken Asia Minor up to Constantinople early. then gradually pushed along North Africa and Spain. Trade was bringing in 10,000+ florins a year, my Janissary Heavy Inf based armies were unstoppable and all was well in my Empire.

Then my King, who had been stationed in Lesser Armenia, died and the new King appeared in Sicily. That's good, I thought, since Sicily was more or less the centre of my Empire. I wonder why I hadn't thought of moving my Kings there before? But I didn't give it too much thought, since I had a pesky English Caravel to killl. It had sneaked in to the Med a turn before.

Maybe you can see where this is leading. The next turn the Caravel jumped to the sea area around Sicily but my brain forgot to register the relevance of this. My ships failed to defeat it and next turn, with my King cut off from contact with his Empire, huge rebel stacks appeared all over the place. Depressed by my incompetence, I saved the game, quit and haven't been back to it since. Couldn't bear to face my subjects after I'd let them down so badly I guess. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

The lesson: keep your King in a sea province well away from the possibility of blockade by enemy ships.

Knight_Yellow
01-28-2003, 13:10
my biggest mistake... going the french *sigh*



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rasoforos
01-28-2003, 13:33
my biggest mistake was when i was playing the english , me and the spanish had dominated the game and there was a front in north africa , at a point i saw a large concentration of troops there and i did the same prepared to give a decisive battle to destroy the spanish war machine . i had 7000 and the spanish had 8000 soldiers , my first mistake was that getting my very good but very heavy units in northern africa and fighting an offencive battle against the spanish who had troops better equiped was not a good idea , my second mistake was that i rushed my forces against them after a point ( terrain dissadvantage ) , then my general died when i foolishly let him get surrounded , the battle ened up as a massacre and it took me quite a while to fix things. Finally i launched a multi province attack away from their main armies and in more northern terrains and crippler them financially but that battle was disastrous and it was all human error.

Geoffrey_FiztRogers
01-28-2003, 14:13
My biggest mistake was to not constaqndtly look all around. I was fighting as the english with spanish allies against the turns in antioch. First the spanish routed right through my troops but i battles back then just as I was about to win the fight hords of camels came crshing into my rear. Somehow I had not notices all these camels making a wide sweep all the way around the field. The Ai had them use what cover there was to screen them from view.

Bob the Insane
01-28-2003, 14:27
My biggest mistake lost me a campaign... The first time I played as the Turks. I was busy attacking the Byz to gain some ground and missed/ignored the forces the Egyptians (my allied fellow Muslims) where building up.

Needless to say the backstabbing gits promply roled there massive armies all over my lands, and the Turk empire eventually ended with the death of the Sultan to illness (probably heartbreak at the loss of all his sons and the betral by fellow muslims...

Answer, never turn your back on the Egyptians....

Asmodeus
01-28-2003, 15:04
Mine was particularly stupid

I was attacking a full stack of angry clansmen in Scotland and after the initial archery contest they still would not give up their position up on the mountain.

So as my archers were out of ammo I withdrew them from battle to bring on 2 fresh units of infantry (i forget which type).

I waited a few minutes for them to arrive and then adjusted my line of battle to maximum effect. Then I let the men rest for a few minutes (i still had plenty of time) before the hike up the mountain and ensuing melee.

Then when all was prepared I selected all the units to group them and give them the order to advance. And it would have been perfect had I not accidently clicked the icon next to Group which just happens to be Rout.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif Noooooooo Come back My whole army was routing and the clansmen came pouring down the mountain like an avalanche. I franticly tried to Rally all my troops but that made things even worse. 2 units of spearmen stopped routing but were immediately cut to shreds by the clansmen and then routed again.

The battle was a humiliating f*ckup and I lost about 300 men and killed only about 30 with arrows. To add insult to injury my general got Good Runner into the bargain http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif

Naturally I switched off in disgust and watched TV grumbling to myself.

jas
01-28-2003, 15:35
Biggest mistake in a game so far?

Trusting the Pope.

Xicote
01-28-2003, 15:37
Biggest mistake?

Letting the Almohads take over Spain and appear on my English doorstep with 6 full stack armys in 3 provinces...

71-hour Ahmed
01-28-2003, 15:47
Being a good Christian as HRE and doing as the pope wanted by crusading against the almohads. Also tried to keep back mongols and turks.

Then he jumped me along with the French (from England)while my armies were busy in Spain and elsewhere, my trade collapsed, money went followed by army, then civil war, enemies all around, goodbye.

Between Mongols, Russkies and Almohads there wasn't much left of Roman Catholic Christianity after I gave up - obviously a smart pope that one. Now I krush em like coke cans no more pope for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Cazbol
01-28-2003, 15:53
It was my second campaign. I ruled Byzantium on normal. In choosing a faction, I read that the Byzantines would be easier than normal because they're strong in the early period. On the other hand, playing the Turks was to be very difficult because they risked war with either of their two big neighbours right from the start. I deduced that the logical thing for the strong Bysantines (me) must be to make the Turks' worst fear come true and attack them.

In the first year I attacked Rum, took it and laid siege to the fort. Then I spread my forces across the whole border with Turkey, i.e. Lesser Armenia, Rum, Trebizond and Georgia. I should have known from experience that the AI likes to counterattack big time if their troops are under siege. They emptied both their provinces and sent all forces, between 900 and 1000 men, to lift the siege. I only had a little more than 300 but thought I'd at least put up a fight and do some damage before retreating, if necessary.

I took up positions on a steep hill. The Turks sent their infantry and general up against my force but waitet.... waitet for a crapload of horse archers completely surround me. Then came the barrage of arrows which desimated me after which they stormed me and slaughtered me, including the general. Much to my dismay, the general was the emperor, who had no heirs and thus I was out of the game in 2 turns. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Bob the Insane
01-28-2003, 16:30
Quote[/b] (Cazbol @ Jan. 28 2003,08:53)]thus I was out of the game in 2 turns. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
2 turns???????


I think that is a record....

[RDH] Spetz Natz
01-28-2003, 16:56
MY biggest mistake playing as the Russians?

Trusting the French to keep our alliance.
It took only ONE turn for those stinkin',
cheese-eating liars to break it. LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Tyrac
01-28-2003, 17:32
I was fighting a large battle in the deserts. My army was an old high valor one with my best general. 7 or 8 stars. But over time his unit was down to just him..no others.

I was trying to meneuver the AI army off a large sand dune so I could engage them without fighting up hill. Off in the distance 3 catapults began to open up on my tightly packed spear wall. So I thought "Hmm that would be alot of kills if just one guy were to kill all three catapult crews....." I sent the general. Yeah, you can see where this is going. The general caught a boulder right in the face.

It sucked, but at the same time it was so funny I was laughing to hard to save my army as the AI ran it down and killed it almost to a man. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

It was pretty stupid. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
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Aleborg
01-28-2003, 20:28
Quote[/b] (middy @ Jan. 28 2003,03:54)]I send everything I got to ireland and beat them easily. But what is this?.. Ireland has no harbor i cannot move back.
He he he.
Exactly the same to me but playing with french faction.

It was really funny, but not for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

solypsist
01-28-2003, 20:39
my biggest was attacking nine enemy provinces (huge armies on both sides) at around 2am after four hours of straight gameplay. By the third battle I was so tired I autoresolved the next few and crippled myself by "losing" those. i have yet to again load up that campaign and try to save it.

Leet Eriksson
01-28-2003, 21:38
My biggest mistake so far is helping a fellow muslim faction when playing as the turks,i helped the almohads from the spanish(who dominated most of spain and NA)and kept going upwards to relieve the english.then all of a sudden 4 or 5 stacks invade my badly garrisoned spanish provinces and starts pushing into NA until it reached the doors of cairo thats when i reloaded like a n00b.

Odyssey of War
01-28-2003, 21:43
First time I ever played as the italians, I attacked the HRE right away. They countered me and ended up taking venice, genoa, and all my northern provinces. Luckily I was able to retreat my king and princes to the islands and try to build from there, which was difficult because there are no ports to start, no trade, and very little income potential. I eventually got off the islands and tried to attack the sicily, lost the battle and the sicilians torew apart my meager fleet of ships, thus stuck on islands indefinitely.

LadyAnn
01-28-2003, 23:49
Solypsist:
Becareful, replay campaigns fall under "cheesy tactics".

Biggest mistake in current game: crusade to Arabia. Took too long for such crusade and it is quite hard to get Arabia to end this one and start a new one.

Annie

Dr_Who_Regen#4
01-29-2003, 03:42
Annie:
Just an observation--
You seem quite concerned http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif about cheesy tactics. Well actually I think your conern is more from a sarcastic side. You seem to mention it in a number of your posts.

Anyway my worst mistake has to be when as the danes my armies slowly took over Engalnd and France only to be steamrolled by the AHM (or whatever the abbreviation is) who had actually spent time improving their soldiers and didn't fight their battles with just an army of bowman, vikings, militia, and Spearmen 50 to 75 years into the game. They had me pushed back to scnadenavia and Scotland faster then I thought was possible.

Didn't help that my income was also horrible...it just always seemed like too much money to upgrade farmland past 20%. I mean that is a ton of viking units... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif I guess I have learned my lesson now

A Nerd
01-29-2003, 03:51
I was playing as the French, possesed a good chunk of the map and had an established trade route. Then the Italians who only possesed Italy sunk my ship, destroyed my trade route and put me in serious debt. I kept trying to replace the ship but it kept getting sunk. Attacked his ships but had mine sunk. So, I opt for a land invasion. But the only way to do this is to first invade the HRE then make my way to Italy. Eventually I find myself engaged in three wars, deep deficit and lack of troops (no money to produce). Old factions reappear and rebellion everywhere. So, I started over. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Gaius Julius
01-29-2003, 04:26
A few of my biggest mistakes:
- didn't pay enough attention to the loyalty of my generals.
- hired too many mercenaries.
- should have "clorinated" the factions gene pool- rid myself of lousey heirs. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Alrowan
01-29-2003, 05:34
well my biggest mistake was playing french on hard...

after finally controlling all the mainland from the english, i turned my sights to the crusades. I sent one, then another, then another... little did i realise that my kings influence was now at 2.. then i saw his puny influence, send another crusade which i knew as doomed from the start... well the rest involves a civil war.. and only now 50 years on have i gained my former glory

solypsist
01-29-2003, 09:48
Quote[/b] ]Solypsist:
Becareful, replay campaigns fall under "cheesy tactics".

Notice I didn't say reload the game, but rather I saved it after my "mistakes" and just haven't gone back to salvage the campaign.

No, cheesy as it seems, I started a whole new campaign and am progressing nicely.

Knight_Yellow
01-29-2003, 10:08
well there was the time i was byz i had all of the east, russia egypt etc. and i attacked the spanish but dammit they wouldnt die and bet me back to constantinople

that sucked.

chilling
01-29-2003, 10:10
The biggest mistake must be trusting any of the factions. You know at some point they'll be aiming that dagger right between your shoulder blades.

middy
01-30-2003, 10:20
Looks like noone beat my blunder http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif(((