View Full Version : whats your favourite fighting order...
Leet Eriksson
02-22-2003, 20:18
OKI KNOW they almost share the same stats but out of pure taste,whats your favourite fighting order in mtw?
personally i would go for templars http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
The Last Emperor
02-22-2003, 21:00
The Teutonic Orders got my vote since they were the 1st order that i came to know long b4 MTW and i like the way their armor looked so there u have it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
Knight_Yellow
02-22-2003, 21:54
saniago good calv for the spanish if u cant get the lancers yet.
Divine Wind
02-22-2003, 22:11
I went for my spanish friends as they always seem 2 come available on my mercenaries for hire and are well worth it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
i chose teutonic order since they are badass http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
although the i heard about the templars 1st http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Kongamato
02-23-2003, 00:32
Well, The only differences in the knights here is that the Templars have a lower charge value and the Hospitallers can dismount.
So I voted for Hospitallers.
Game-wise , I think chiv knight,teutonic,hospitalier and santiago are all equivalent just with different cosmetics. But the preferance should be based on history then, and following that I prefer teutonic order the most.
DemonArchangel
02-23-2003, 02:48
Templars, simply badass to the core. But Teutonic Knights were also cool and their unit description pic looks cooler.
Foreign Devil
02-23-2003, 03:15
Knights of Santiago- they can be built in Leon for valor and weapon upgrades.
They really give the Spanish a kick in early. Crusades are good for dealing with the Almohads.
gah... templars in game are the worst due to a weaker charge and no seccondry templar unit.. id vouch for either tuetonic or hospitlar basically because they have more units http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Leet Eriksson
02-23-2003, 11:28
Templars pack a punch,i beat the hospitaller and santiago orders with them.well i think i did,since swords counter spears iirc.but maybe its my general http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Michael the Great
02-23-2003, 19:04
I think It would be best if Templars would have something to compensate for that low charge,somethin like higher attack because of swords.
Hey,wadda u think of Hospitaller Foot Knights??
Longshanks
02-23-2003, 19:58
I voted for the Templars.
deejayvee
02-24-2003, 04:10
I don't really get into any of the orders in the game because I don't bother crusading.
However, I voted for the Templars because of their role in history - Devil worshipping heretic scum
I went Knights of Santiago simply because they were supposedly recruited along semi-monastic lines. Warrior monks. Better then those smelly Germans or those heretical Templars.
7Bear7Polar
02-24-2003, 08:07
templars ownz http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
TheViking
02-24-2003, 11:31
none of them, catholic units are so boring
Mori Gabriel Syme
02-24-2003, 19:57
I voted Templars.
& they were not heretics. Philip the Fair was conniving, unprincipled, & self-aggrandizing tumor on the body of history, & the sooner this remaining malignancy is cut out, the better. The charges were boilerplate that Philip's ministers used against all his enemies, including Pope Boniface. I can't believe anyone takes the charges seriously anymore; certainly no reputable historian does.
Teutonic Knight
02-24-2003, 20:01
Teutonic Knights, naturally http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Vlad The Impaler
02-24-2003, 21:58
i voted for templar as i usualy play with french;
runner-up : knights hospitaler
deejayvee
02-25-2003, 04:26
Quote[/b] (Mori Gabriel Syme @ Feb. 24 2003,12:57)]I voted Templars.
& they were not heretics.
I know. I should clarify my reason. I voted for the Templars because their history was so fascinating, particularly the fact that they were so envied by the King of France, the Pope and the Hospitallers that there was a whole cock and bull story concocted so they could steal all their possessions. I just love reading about the church screwing people left, right and centre.
I love the history of the Cathars for the same reason.
Brutal DLX
02-25-2003, 13:03
My fav. fighting order is the Black Lotus society, but I guess that doesn't count here. So never do mind my post.
Basileus
02-25-2003, 15:26
Templars but in game i think all orders are kool http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Kongamato
02-25-2003, 20:13
I dont get your selection process. The Hospitallers get you a strong cavalry force statistically equal to that of the Teutonic Knights, Knights of Santiago, and Chivalric Knights, and superior in charge value to that of the Templars. Now what makes them better is their dismounting ability, as they can fight as the Hospitaller Foot Knights, in case you ever need some heavy infantry for a siege or something.
Of course, I am only judging by in-game performance.
i have no clue why everyone is picking the templars... i mean in game they absolutly suck. only one unique unit, and that has a crapper chrge than the others... here is probably the best order from best to worst:
1.Hospitalar: They get equally good knights that when dismounted are a mean force on the field as well
2.Tuetonic: They get the good ol knight and some sergeants to match
3.Snatiago: only the knights
4.templar: a weakened knight
Orda Khan
02-28-2003, 18:12
I could not bring myself to vote for any as I hate them all intensely, as I do Lancers and Chivalric also.
.......Orda
DemonArchangel
03-22-2003, 18:34
i voted based on a historical context.
In this game of course:
Templar doesn't share same stat as the rest, they have LOWER charge bonus and a tad cheaper. Overall Templar is a bit more expensive than Chivalric Knight for performance vs. cost criteria.
Knight of Santiego has same stats, but will not charge without order, making these much easier to use.
Looks like the Developers are fans of don Quixote, giving them two best knight units.
Annie
ErikJansen
03-27-2003, 11:09
Teutonics get my vote http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Crandaeolon
03-27-2003, 11:32
Teutonics got my vote, those guys have attitude. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif Teutonics sometimes charge without orders like Chivalrics, while the other Order Knights do not. Well, dunno about templars but Santiagos and Hospitallers don't.
I'm not sure but I think Santiago and Hospitalliers are the disciplined ones.
Kongamato
03-27-2003, 20:39
Hospitallers can dismount Why would you take anything else? Can the Teutonics, Santiagos, and Templars dismount as well? If not, why are you choosing them over a statistically identical alternative with added versatility? The Impetuous charge has never really bothered me, has it ever destroyed you before?
ErikJansen
03-28-2003, 00:10
Its a matter of attitude http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Everyone could dismount, even the oddball camels. So, have a mount, you can dismount them
Charging without order is a problem sometimes, especially if you want to lay ambush. Sometimes you want them to attack another unit a bit further away, but these guys simple charge at a closer one, usually into spears. So, it doesn't kill me, but it prevented me to kill a bit more.
Annie
I voted Hospitallers, because I just like them a bit better. The choice between them and Teutonics is basically no difference. Don't like Templars because of charge bonus, and don't like Knights of Santiago because they're in the same faction as Lancers, and I really don't like Lancers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I voted Santiago Knights.
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