New VI Screens

[Stormer]

here at www.totalwar.org

them new screenshots make me want it even more.

[spmetla]

I'm a little confused seeing Mangonels. Those were pretty advanced siege weapons for the mediveal era. I don't think they were available during the dark ages.

Along with the crossbow thread this is definatley a strange quirk that the devs don't seem to have noticed.

[Kraellin]

one thing tosa and i were speculating about from those shots is the smoke trail coming from one of those siege engine shots. greek fire?

K.

[Stormer]

i thought one was flameing arrows

[Kongamato]

I think that they confused Mangonels and Catapults and nobody told them they were wrong.

Anyway, I like the screens, the raiding game looks interesting. Also, I think I saw Gallowglasses as one of the units. There was also another two-handed sword unit there.

Also, a most fearsome looking unit's tag is seen on the right side of the bar of the fifth shot on the page.

[Kraxis]

Konga, you saw right... There are even Kerns there.... I like that, they are very interesting units and I love to play with them. It is very interesting to note that the Irish have so many ranged units (seems to be javelins), they might become my favourites as I love such units.

Even the Highlanders are there (the pre-battle screen).

I noticed that the Welsh have something that seems to be Longbows, the icon isn't the same, but the unit has the same men.... Like, like not, like, like not... I can't say.

I'm highly surprised the Picts have Berserkers (also the pre-battle)... Did they too go into a frenzy?

[Stormer]

pre battle systme what is that exactly

[Kongamato]

Question: I have seen a unit in some screens, but I have no idea what it is. I would like to know just exactly what it possibly could be.

The shot (http://www.totalwar.com/community/vikingsp7.htm)

I have only seen it on tabs and bars - never in a screenshot. The image appears to the right of the shield in the campaign map control panel, which is in the lower left corner of the screen.

Edit: I think they are Housecarls.

[Kraxis]

Perhaps you are right Konga, but the Housecarles are shown to have round shields on the viking page.

[Stormer]

hmm i think their the basic viking inf or Johms vikings but look weird http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Captain Fishpants]

There's more than one type of Huscarle/Housecarle in the game - and just this minute, I can't remember which spelling we settled on http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

MikeB ~ CA

[Kraxis]

Quote[/b] (Captain Fishpants @ April 01 2003,03:16)]There's more than one type of Huscarle/Housecarle in the game - and just this minute, I can't remember which spelling we settled on http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

MikeB ~ CA
Ohh yeah I forgot... Huskarls and Housecarles... So these guys might actually be the Viking Huskarls?

But really what is the difference between the Viking version and the Saxon version? Is one a Varangian type while the other is a Viking type (in terms of MTW)?

[Kongamato]

What faction is red-colored with a yellow lion on it? It is not the Vikings, so this unit cannot be a Viking unit. What colors did Saxons historically use?

[Stormer]

hmmm Housecarls

just need a couple of me's and job done http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[econ21]

Kraxis - good question about the Housecarles/Huscarls. I guess we'll have to wait for the game to find out. I suspect that they might make the Viking ones more offensive, the Saxon ones more defensive - just a hunch (thinking about the popular images of them in terms of Viking raids and Hastings).

I'd be interested in how the VI period unit stats (fyrd etc) compare with those in MTW more generally, as I would expect them to be a little inferior from a historical viewpoint , although this might be hard to sell Same applies to RTW.

[housecarl]

Kongamato, I’m just guessing but the flag may be a Wyvern as this is the traditional emblem of Wessex. The wyvern flag of Wessex is one of the oldest flags in Europe, possibly originating in cavalry standards used by the Roman army. Henry of Huntingdon, writing in the 12th century, mentions it twice, as having been flown at the battles of Burford (752) and Ashingdon (1016), and it also appears in the depiction of the Battle of Hastings on the Bayeux tapestry. For a time, it became the flag of England, until the returning Crusaders decided to appropriate the flag of Jerusalem, the cross of St. George, for themselves. The wyvern appears in various forms in the emblems of several Wessex counties and districts, and of the Wessex Regiment and Brigade.

[Kraxis]

While the guys in the shot might be Housecarles, I don't think they ever used kiteshields... and the concept-art on the com looks like a round shield much like the Landsmenn.

[Stormer]

housecarl seemed to f had not round shields.

here on the right are housecarles i think
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/lj/how_to_do_historylj/images/howto_images/b_tap_4.jpg


the picture iv got he has no shield http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
http://www.btinternet.com/~mrfield/Conquest/images/Housecarl.gif