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Lord Of Storms
02-24-2003, 16:48
I have seen some posts in regards to some game cheats recently and thought it might be an interesting topic . I do not want to start any wars or personal attacks just thought it might be of some interest.Do you use any of the cheats, .viagra.=all provs. get iron ,.mefoundsomeau.=all provs get gold also ag and cu provs get silver and copper. And .matteosartori.= full map,.deadringer.=1,000,000 florins,The one I do use is .worksundays. = fast construction which I feel does not upset the game balance so much. Also .badgerbunny.= unlocks all units and buildings, and laslty .conan.= play as rebels = (can not be undone) Note all these were found in the January issue of PC Gamer. Thanks and lets keep it cool. TSOS http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/otn/glasses/rasta.gif
HopAlongBunny
02-24-2003, 17:00
Sometimes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
In fact I have never been able to win a game as the Turks yet w/o making my currency a .deadringer. for the Byzantine coin. Indeed, I have found it necessary to convince my industrious people to .worksundays. each time as well.
Once as the Danes, I guess it would have been useful to .unfreeze. some of my king's DNA stored in Sweden...thus morphing an heir to replace the pervert who died w/o one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif
Enjoy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Teutonic Knight
02-24-2003, 17:07
How do I/ where do I type in the cheat?
Lord Of Storms
02-24-2003, 17:14
Just type in as you see it i.e. .deadringer. anytime during normal gameplay depending on which one you pick it will make a sound like the one above you will here coins clinking.http://members.fortunecity.com/bbsmilies/animated/winking.gif
Longshanks
02-24-2003, 17:41
The only cheat I have used so far is the full map cheat once in awhile. I think only being able to see the nations bordering you or your ships is a little silly. While England may not have known what was going on out in the Russian steppes, they did know of the existence of the HRE,Venice, Byzantines ect.
I'm not crazy about the map cheat though. I only use it to determine who has what territory, who is getting big ect...I wish there was a way you could keep tabs on territories, but not see the army movements unless bordering you.
Hmmm might be useful, you know finding that old gold Roman treasure can do wonderous things to an economy on the verge of bankruptcy, and my people are soooo lazy I think this 'Work Sundays' cult might be onto something good.
I think the full map "cheat" is not a cheat but livens up the early game, letting you know what is going on geopolitically before you have a big trade network. I wish we could at least see ownership of provinces as the default.
I don't use the cheat though, as my navy starts disappearing when I do.
I confess I use the "reload" cheat a lot though ... if only to try to learn from my battlefield disasters.
Divine Wind
02-24-2003, 19:41
Ive just used the money cheat a few times. Making huge invincable armies 2 conquer the world Dont tell me youve never dreamed of it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
Lord Of Storms
02-24-2003, 20:27
Been there done that http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/nichtani_1/council.gif
chilling
02-25-2003, 01:12
I've not used any yet. I think .unfreeze is the only one I would.
Lord Of Storms
02-25-2003, 02:08
I think to use the .deadringer. cheat for 1,000,000 florins does give you an unfair advantage and make it virtually impossible to lose ,but honestly it was fun to have unlimited funds and build like crazy but that got boring towards the end after so much building, but it was cool having massive raider armies and not care about losses. Well back to the real game thanks to those who have been candid keep them coming.TSOS http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/monsieurboo/overclocking.gif P.S. what happens after using to many cheats.
LordKhaine
02-25-2003, 03:05
Quote[/b] (Longshanks @ Feb. 24 2003,10:41)]I wish there was a way you could keep tabs on territories, but not see the army movements unless bordering you.
Do a GA game, then you can look at the "homelands" bit to see who has what.
The only cheat I've used is .nuttermode.
Cheers.
deejayvee
02-25-2003, 04:17
Quote[/b] (LordKhaine @ Feb. 24 2003,20:05)]Do a GA game, then you can look at the "homelands" bit to see who has what.
Or you can hold an emmisary over the province and a tool-tip will appear saying "Morocco - An Almohad Province" or some such. Princesses will do it too.
As for cheats, I have to confess to having played a game or 2 with .deadringer. only because the micro-management of trade can be a bit frustrating and time-consuming when I just want to get in there and have a battle.
powdermonkey
02-25-2003, 13:24
Sorry guys - I don't approve of cheats. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
The closest I'll ever get is to use 'cheesy tactics' against the AI. And I've won as the Turks a couple of times without cheating.
The key is to get a good start and ensure you are allied with either the Byz or the Egyptians, then attack the other...
Cheats spoil the gameplay, but can be fun to try out once in a while http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
Lord Of Storms
02-25-2003, 13:26
Again thank you all for your candid responses please keep them coming...
Brutal DLX
02-26-2003, 10:58
I sometimes use the map cheat shortly after starting a campaign. Later on I got a full view of what's going on anyway, so I don't need it anymore.
In my second campaign ever, I used the .deadringer. because I was impatient and wanted to start building and upgrading right away and not wait until I earned enough money.
Those are the only two cheatcodes I've ever used.
I really look down on cheats and have never used them. The reload cheat with the reason "just to learn from my mistakes" is among the worst in my oppinion, although extra money, unlock all, and work sundays sound pretty lame as well. But hey.... you're not playing the game to please me so do whatever you like.
Lord Of Storms
02-26-2003, 14:01
Good feedback guys keep it coming I appreciate your honesty
Orda Khan
02-26-2003, 14:34
My son is forever looking up cheats for different games and it's something I can't understand. I've tried to explain that by using cheats you don't achieve anything but there you go. I suppose some of these are good for light entertainment but personally I like to make it difficult. So much more rewarding to triumph against adversity.
.......Orda
I dont cheat, but i have used .nuttermode. a few times to make the AI harder. but besides that i have never used a cheat. using .deadringer. to get $1 million florins is just unfair to the Ai, for u have no way of loosing, and .worksundays. is the same way in my opinion. its much more fun to build an economy on your own and attempt to conquer the world, or become the Super Power and intimidate other factions.
i guess my point is that if you beat the game using cheats to your edge, you really havnt beat the game at all.
I only used cheats for my personal mods' betatesting.
What exactly does .nuttermode. and .unfreeze. do? [embarrased]
chilling
02-27-2003, 01:58
.unfreeze gives you an eligable heir to unstick a bad campaign with a nancy boy king. Not a cheat in my book if you use it to be able to finish a game that has stalled. Not one I've had to use up until now.
.nuttermode makes the AI more agressive I believe, not used it either.
Oh and I like to earn my million florins the hard way. Not that it's that hard.
Heraclius
02-27-2003, 03:30
Please I beg you. DO NOT TEMPT ME WITH CHEATS. MTW should be played purely. Those goddamn cheats ruined Age of Empires for me. AAAACCH. PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD BEFORE I CAN'T CONTROL MYSELF ANY LONGER AND HAVE TO READ IT. Anyway, just my thoughts.
Gaius Julius
02-27-2003, 05:09
I haven't used any of the cheats.
What's the point?
If you use the cheats, and everything is "done" for you, where's the challenge?
Sounds pretty boring to me.
Lord Of Storms
02-27-2003, 20:10
So far a good mix of responses, again I appreciate your honest answrs, Thanks to all.http://www.emotipad.com/emoticons/Clap%20Hands.gif
Fate Amenable to Change
02-28-2003, 05:25
Crap How can you possibly amass 1,000,000 florins (or even 100,000 for that matter) while playing the game properly. I'm playing Byzantine, Hard, and trying to build trade, but I still have to have armies, build blgs etc and that all takes money
I've never been interested in cheats - I think it takes the random hand of fate away from a possibly interesting game - but if I hear how anyone else raised oodles of money just by "having trade" I think I'll choke myself (after first choking my Byzantine Chancellor who obviously isn't doing his job )
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Hi all
IMO, cheat or not cheat is not very important as long as you only play single player games, against the computer...
it is just a personla preference... If you want to cheat, cheat, if you don't want to, don't cheat, simple ...
But as soon as you start playing multiplayer games (totalwar or others), cheats are the ULTIMATE GAME KILLERS... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
I use .nuttermode. . It seems to give good effect.
I also use the reveal map and 1 turn construction time often. I think that the one turn construction time cheat will also effect the AI. I see lots of Fortress and fully developed provinces in my game lately.
Game is for fun. Use cheat if you want to. However, you will lose interest for the game if you use cheat exclusively just to beat the game, because there is no challenge in the game for you to feel good after you accomplished something. Of course, once in a while, you will come accross a game that seems to be unbeatable for you, but that will not be very often.
eat cold steel
02-28-2003, 11:09
Nuttermode is more of an anti-cheat. Worksundays only affect the player's construction and training. The make all unit available cheat is more of a handy debug tool rather than a cheat, we use it to view all the unit icon without having to waste time meeting the training requirements, so it actually doesn't allow you to train any extra units. Remember the cheat have to be typed in every time you start a game as they are not saved, ie if you want nuttermode you have to type it in again each session.
Quote[/b] (Fate Amenable to Change @ Feb. 27 2003,22:25)]Crap How can you possibly amass 1,000,000 florins (or even 100,000 for that matter) while playing the game properly. I'm playing Byzantine, Hard, and trying to build trade, but I still have to have armies, build blgs etc and that all takes money
I've never been interested in cheats - I think it takes the random hand of fate away from a possibly interesting game - but if I hear how anyone else raised oodles of money just by "having trade" I think I'll choke myself (after first choking my Byzantine Chancellor who obviously isn't doing his job )
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Actually it's pretty easy to get 100,000+. I usually have a bank that big after palying for about 100-200 years.
The best way to do this (no not using trade cause that make the game weak. cause the AI doesn't know how to trade, so why should you) The trick is farming. Dedicate 2 of your provinces to build decent units, and then spend the rest of you initial money on emproving farmland. Every new province you envade build up the farm first, then build the extras. This make the game dificult and fun at the same time. Cause in the begining your tropps will be weak. And if you piss of the wrong faction it can eliminate you. But if the gamble pays off, after the first 200 years you will be able to build an army like no one else.
If you don't believe me try playing as the Spanish, then expend southeast till Eguipt.
To stay true to the post: I my self don't use cheats, and don't take advatage of some of the "Bugs" in the game.
Like => 1)Trade,
2)Automatic result of a castle assault (if i do use it i make sure i have arti in the army),
3)Keeping a province in constant revolt so you can collect money from putting down revolts,
4)Using spies to cause revolts so you don't go to war.(or religious units)
5)Using assesins, to kill of enemy or my own generals (paly the hand you were dealt)
6)Using alot of embesaries to see the whole map. (i don't see how one faction would need more that 5)
7)as far as cheatcodes, why would you want to? (the only once that i would use is the one that gives you a son when you have non, and the one that lets you play pass 1452)
Brutal DLX
02-28-2003, 12:15
USMCNJ,
he was talking about one million florins, not 100000.
I also never achieved this, I had 300,000 + a couple of times, but sooner or later the large-scale money-making will stop as you have to fight your trading partners...
I think we can all agree on building farm upgrades is very important, but even with 80% everywhere you won't be able to make such a great surplus. The real surplus comes from trade, and trade only.
Lord Of Storms
03-01-2003, 05:46
I would like to hear from anyone who has amassed 1,000,000 florins without the cheat that would be an accomplisment in itself.http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/smhair2.gif
I'm sure that 1,000,000 is not imposible. In my spanish campaign i put chok armies in the Spanish - French Border, and The black sea reagion (keeping enemy solderis out. send two navy's of 16 ships each, just to destroy enemy fleets. And improved the farmland, build churches. With my people happy, i didn't require any armies within my empire, only the armies mentioned above. By like 1260, i have 500,000 plus.
When all my provinces were producing Lances I moved north and Conquered the world in 50 (ballpark) turns. I'm sure if i wanted to, i could have raise 1,000,000. But i don't like to sit around.
Lord Of Storms
03-01-2003, 10:10
Well done USMCNJ you da manhttp://www.emotipad.com/emoticons/Bow.gif
the only one i use, is the montesorri one, i know spelled wrong.. only use that when testing mods, lets me see how the ai is reacting to the changes i made...
the most money i ever managed to bank was 320,000 and some change. that was one of my ehh games, not very challenging, did it with the english early...
Lord Of Storms
03-01-2003, 17:12
320,000, is a respectable bankroll Jayrockand the map cheat is .matteosartori.http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/anym/brave.gif
Fairlight
03-11-2003, 05:28
Quote[/b] (Longshanks @ Feb. 24 2003,10:41)]I'm not crazy about the map cheat though. I only use it to determine who has what territory, who is getting big ect...I wish there was a way you could keep tabs on territories, but not see the army movements unless bordering you.
I enter the map cheat as a matter of routine at the beginning of every play session. It's a)more realistic and b)fun to see the ebb and flow of medieval empires.
What would be even better would be a hack or patch that let the player see all the map as his faction *would think* it was: i.e. changes of province ownership might take years to filter down the pike, and in the meantime "rumours" could be represented by alternating color lines to represent the dueling factions. Provinces not visited in a while might have their colors slowly fade back into the black fog of war, until traders bring news, etc.
Something like that. You know what I mean. :>
I've only used matteosartori. I had fun last night advancing the game around 50 years watching the Mongols run around Eastern Europe. I had good defenses so nobody attacked me on the land during that time.
I also use it sometimes to check on who has what province. I used emissaries the last game but the opponent's turn took too long and I only wanted to see army moves not agent moves as well. You could easily find out who has what province by dragging an agent over the province anyway. That, and the cheat doesn't allow you to see what kind of troops and buildings the enemy has.
My brother played Starcraft and Warcraft with cheats and he sucks. Currently, he plays Warcraft 3 with an insane level AI for an ally against 2 easy AIs. That's close to cheating as well since the insane AI is good enough to take both easy AIs by itself a lot of times.
Prodigal
03-11-2003, 15:37
Quote[/b] (Heraclius @ Feb. 26 2003,20:30)]DO NOT TEMPT ME WITH CHEATS
I didn't know there were any... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Lord Of Storms
03-11-2003, 15:57
Quote[/b] (Prodigal @ Mar. 11 2003,08:37)]I didn't know there were any... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Read the first post of this thread and you will find them
HopAlongBunny
03-11-2003, 20:00
Actually 1,000,000 florins isn't that hard. Present game I had 2,000,000+ banked (all w/o cheats http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) before the world came knocking at my door. Now that the main war and mass rebellions have broken out I expect to be bleeding 11,000-20,000 florins per year until the conclusion.
Spain just has access to too much money http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif and taking the Egyptians over helped a lot
Sir Kuma of The Org
03-12-2003, 04:56
Quote[/b] (HopAlongBunny @ Mar. 11 2003,13:00)]Actually 1,000,000 florins isn't that hard. Present game I had 2,000,000+ banked (all w/o cheats http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) before the world came knocking at my door. Now that the main war and mass rebellions have broken out I expect to be bleeding 11,000-20,000 florins per year until the conclusion.
Spain just has access to too much money http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif and taking the Egyptians over helped a lot
I think it depends what faction your playing. I had a hard time economically with my game as the russians, but now playing as the egyptians, the money is flowing so much i don't know what to build anymore
As for cheats, i like to play with with the units a bit for fun when i'm not doing a campaign (no cheating in a campaign-this is serious gaming http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ).
Visually my best result came from the exploding arrows from the hashishins, second was souping up some cannons, but all of these are good for thirty minutes of fun, that's it.
Prodigal
03-12-2003, 14:53
Quote[/b] (The Sword Of Storms @ Mar. 11 2003,08:57)]Read the first post of this thread and you will find them
I did read them, I was led into temptation, & found that I was too worthless & weak to resist it, & now have the peasants working sundays.
Thing is that I've been playing MTW for what seems like forever & the only cheat I thought there was, was for the full map. Also it was really meant as a response to the thread. Do you cheat...(a) don't tempt me because I will, (b) no I haven't been cheating, I didn't know you could until now.
One question though, as I've already given in to the dark side, what does nuttermode do? I've seen reference to it but have not seen any description. Apologies in advance if it's in this thread & I've missed it.
Quote[/b] (Prodigal @ Mar. 12 2003,07:53)]One question though, as I've already given in to the dark side, what does nuttermode do? I've seen reference to it but have not seen any description. Apologies in advance if it's in this thread & I've missed it.
Makes the AI far more aggressive than it usually is. As ECS said, it's more of an anti-cheat.. makes the game that little bit more difficult. It's fun when those huge rebel armies actually start to expand their territories...
Good to know I need to type in .nuttermode. every separate session... was begining to wonder about that.
Cheers.
Lord Of Storms
03-13-2003, 00:54
No need to apologize its all good I think .nuttermode. sets the AI to be more aggresive then normal good luck
HopAlongBunny
03-13-2003, 02:49
Quote[/b] (Sir Kuma of The Org @ Mar. 11 2003,21:56)]I think it depends what faction your playing. I had a hard time economically with my game as the russians,
I think you're right. Russians are tough to play and I doubt I would ever see the kind of money I'm making with the Spanish. Once you secure Kiev and (after the Horde) Lithuania the money starts to come http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Even better if you can sneak Sweden away from the Danes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Disco Volante
03-13-2003, 03:16
I've used all the cheats except the map one (don't ask me why i haven't used it), however after about 25 years I'm bored shitless and I start a new game without cheating. Furthermore, in a normal game I'm usually bored around 1350 anyway because I'm spanking Europe so hard that I start a new game all over again... come to think of it I don't think I've ever completed a campaign http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
IMO cheating is for people who haven't got the talent/skill to beat the AI in any mode. It really isn't all that difficult a game to play... however, it is a bit too f*cking addictive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
All the cheaters out there need to give themselves a bit of a challenge and maybe they'll end up doing something other than working at Maccas...
I got up to about 1.9 million florins with the Danes on early, ga, normal by the end once. And when the game was over, it gave me a prize. not.
Kensai Achilles
03-14-2003, 08:46
haven't used cheats yet, but I will definitely want to try .conan (playing as rebels). Been wanting 2 play as rebels since STW.
but b4 i do that can someone assure me that the game won't crash if we play as rebels? crashing is a huge spoiler. I've had a few unfinished campaign pre patch that kept on crashing @ certain date. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif I don't think I want to repeat that again. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif
I haven't seen a miliion either, mainly because I like to waste florins
... Found Florins http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif GAAHWAAARRR http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif
Mr Frost
03-16-2003, 14:36
Quote[/b] (The Sword Of Storms @ Feb. 28 2003,22:46)]I would like to hear from anyone who has amassed 1,000,000 florins without the cheat that would be an accomplisment in itself.http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/smhair2.gif
Playing Almohads normal difficulty from early using Wes Medmod 1.7 {whichever the last 1.7 was ... 1.77 ?} with very little modification from that base {nothing financial) . It's now 1233 and I have Tunisia , Algeria , Morroco , Granada , Cordoba , Portugal , Castile , Valencia , Aeagon , Navarre , Aquitaine , Toulouse , Province , CXorsica , Sardinia , Malta , Sicily , Naples , Papal States , Tuscanny , Crete , Rhodes , Brittany , Anjou , Normandy , Ile de France , Burgundy , Flanders , Wessex , Mercia , Wales , Northumbria , Scotland , Ireland , and all my provinces that are exposed to foreign armies have first rate armies with bronse or silver sheilds and swords {the four Iberian iron provinces are VERY sweet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif) , 6-8 star generals {nearly all princes or ex-princes} , total naval supreamacy {no power can match me at sea} and my treasury is 1,331,272 florins .
Year 1233
Yearly income : 49,341 fl
projected expenses : 22,628 fl
Projected Profits : 26,713 fl
This years treasury : 1,331,272 fl
Last years treasury : 1,306,643 fl
You just have to take it easy occasionally and think things through . You need the trade
One game when playing Italians/GA/Normal, my final bank balance was about 6.4 million with an income of about 150k/turn before expenses.
How? I only went after coastal provinces with 2+ trade goods and was at peace with rebel provinces (meaning I could trade with them. I also had the pope properly pacificed (ergo, I crushed him like a bug whenever he dared to excommunicate me or attack me)
Although the English had an army of about 60k and owned almost all of the map, my army was about 30k, of better quality and I had total domination of the sea.
ADDON
I have used some of the cheats to test mods as well as .matteosartori. if I want a look at the map. However I usually put priests everywhere to get a similiar effect. I do lose huge numbers of them to assassins, but after a while, the AI simply gives up killing them as this has almost no effect. This has the added benefit of hving someone close if I need to offer peace.
Brutal DLX
04-04-2003, 15:32
I smell cheese. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Cheese, HAH.
Ok, I will admit the MTW AI is kind of weak although it does employ a lot of spoiler tactics.
I guess I'm so used to the Civ3 AI which requires any and all dirty tricks just to stay alive on higher difficulties.
SeveredSoul
04-05-2003, 01:22
I do use the money cheat. But only once, at the very begining of my game. I do this bacause I feel that it add to the realism of the game. Let's face it, no kingdom starts with as little money in it's coffers, as they do in this game. Yeah, you could say "The AI can't use the cheat. So that unbalances the game." Well in responce to that I say, the game is inherently unbalanced anyway.
Papewaio
04-05-2003, 02:06
If you played as Queen Elizabeth just after the Spanish Armada had been beaten you would start with a negative cash flow and no money in the coffers.
In fact since sailors only got payed if they where alive and on shore, I have heard (rumours) that QEI left many of them to starve to death rather then totally drain any more money from the econonmy.
You don't need the money cheat... trade is a good enough of a cheat by itself. The AI really needs to improve that part of it... doing blockades of entire nations was hard enough to do in WWII... I think there should be two types of fleets... merchants which is more like an infrastructure build, and military for military units. Sure you can stop entire armies but smuggling and other merchant activities should only be minimised if you stop all merchant activity.
And/Or make the ships trade two ways... if you trade with them, they get to trade with you (not as much, but better then what ports currently give)... this would have to be factored into the startegy... so the AI would go... hmm weak but this guy brings me so much trade I better look after him.
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