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NewJeffCT
04-10-2003, 17:12
Sipahi?
Kataprhaktoi? (sorry if I butchered the spelling, i'm at work...)

Big King Sanctaphrax
04-10-2003, 17:42
cat-ta-frak-toy

sip-ha-hi(I think. not sure about that one)

Hope that helps http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Shahed
04-10-2003, 18:21
See-pah-hee say it fast like seepahee.

Kongamato
04-10-2003, 20:59
How about Pronoiai?

Hey, did you know that the singular of Kataphraktoi is Kataphraktos?

lonewolf371
04-10-2003, 23:47
Proe-noy-aye---Pronoiai

Praylak
04-11-2003, 01:52
I seen it somewhere in a document I was reading, and IIRC Sipahi is (sy-fa-hee), where the P has that f sound to it.

Also I'm sure Big King has the right pronounciation on kataphraktoi.

Michael the Great
04-11-2003, 18:45
Janissary?

NewJeffCT
04-11-2003, 21:13
Janice (like the name) airy

Parmenion
04-12-2003, 11:32
I'm sure it's all relative to where you are from. The city of Rome is called 'Rome' by English-speaking people. The Italians call it 'Roma' and the founders called it 'Romana' or 'Romanus'.
Another example is the city of Persepolis in Iran. 'Persepolis' is it's Greek name, and it was actually called 'Parsis' by it's inhabitants.

Thus Kataphractoi would be pronounced differently by the Byz than, say, the English. I've always called them Cataphracts since studying history at school.
I expect that where I say 'Janice-Airy', a medieval Turk may well have said it far differently, and probably would have had the 'ccchh' syllable in there somewhere too.

Sir Chauncy
04-12-2003, 12:42
What a giggle I have noticed that way that people tend to pronounce things as they think they should be said rather that actually reading it as it is written.
I shall never forget having a bit of a raised voice discussion with a medievil playing mate over how you said

"Varangian".

I was adamant that it was Vangarian. A whole N had disappeared. Not for the first time I might add.
Other things like that are really strange. People tend to pronounce "Lesser Britain" as "France" for example. Or "That Place Where They Drink The Blood Of Their Dead" is often (wrongly) refered to as "Scotland".
Wierd how these things work out isn't it? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Shahed
04-12-2003, 15:06
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Shahed
04-12-2003, 15:10
Right:

Janissary in Turkish is Yeni Cheri (with a ch)

Sipahi is not prounounced sy-fa-hee. As concluded here:


Quote[/b] ]I seen it somewhere in a document I was reading, and IIRC Sipahi is (sy-fa-hee), where the P has that f sound to it.

This is false. Sipahi is pronounced See-pah-hee.

rasoforos
04-13-2003, 13:03
Quote[/b] ] cat-ta-frak-toy

sip-ha-hi(I think. not sure about that one)

Hope that helps

actually it is :

ca-ta-frak-tee ( the oi in greek is pronounced as the letter 'e' when you say your ABC's ) If you have greek language support you can see how its written : Κατ`αφρακτοι ( the accent mark tell you where to put the accent in the word)

pronoiai is pro-nee-eh (the 'eh' like the 'e' in 'letter&#39http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif the 'nee' like 'nickolas' but a bit longer , προνοιαι

Hulegu
04-13-2003, 13:58
I may be wrong but rasoforos is surely talking about modern Greek. Ancient Greek was pronounced - as far as we know, and according to what I was taught at school - as the earlier responses suggest. 11th to 15th century Greek - no doubt a different matter - perhaps somewhere between the two?

Brutal DLX
04-14-2003, 11:12
Who knows? They die rather quickly against my experienced soldiers anyway, so it doesn't matter what they are called. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif