Custom Games

[Swoosh So]

Much overlooked because the ai is dumb, Play vs 2 armies give each army the same florins as yourself ie: ai army 1 12500 ai army 2 12500 you 12500 put them on defence and let them attack u Dont rush 1 army then the next bORING Let them attack and see if u can hold them off http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Its good fun, Make sure to give them good armies ie 3 or 4 arbs a good number of spears and some hvy and light cav,

SwoOOoOoOOOOOOoooOooOsh

I may set a challenge and upload a custom battle and see if anyone can beat it by defending instead of rushing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Anyone interested? You could also post the replays to show how u did it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Along with the logfiles of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[wassa]

I agree Swoosh .. the custom battle aspect of the game does seem to be overlooked. Even though the AI isnt the sharpest tool in the shed it can still be fun setting up battles where you are outnumbered or outclassed. Its a real good feeling knowing you've just won against the odds.

Would love to have a crack at some of the battles you've set up.

[FesterShinetop]

It can even be great fun to outnumber the AI yourself... give them inferiour units and totally crush them... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif Especially after the comp defeated you in the campaign game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Swoosh So]

Ok ill get some posted up http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Remember the player may be attacker in theses games but try to defend, the ai will attack u http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Kensai Achilles]

I like to play around with AI just for kicks n giggles. So I tried to play it out as u asked.

it was in flatcoastal2 map, my fave cuz its flat, so good for experiments

cpu

byz spanish
--- ------
4 byz inf 4 order foots
2 spears 2val 2 weap 4 chiv man at arms
2 spears 2val 1 weap 4 pavise arbs
4 pavise arbs (few get 1 arm) 2 gendarmes
2 pronois 2 lancers
2 kata

Player (almohad)
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4 nubian spears val 3 weap 1
6 AUM lv 2
2 Aum lv 1
2 Desert Archers arm 3 (just to check on how morale penalty goes, and the armour scrapped out of whatever florins left)
2 ghulam cavs

I haven't played MP yet so I barely know what a good battle/match up looks like, I welcome any advice/comment on the line up.

nothing special about it though since its a flat map. I would prolly had been crushed against humans. it's just a matter of luring AI to charge, the rest are RPS. If ur interested i'll send the replays/save to u. Since I'll be on vacation tomorrow noon, where 2 send?

[Swoosh So]

Ok ill upload the custom game today along with a replay http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I have 4 arbs in the replay but in the custom game there are 3 arbs and 2 artillery i think just to make it abit different, I defended lazily as you will see in the replay when 1 of my arbs gets attacked, it was more experimenting with routing uncertain or wavering units with my artillery, The replay is called SwOoooOOOosh and the custom game is called 2v1.


Swoooooooooooooooosh

[Swoosh So]

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/

File is 2v1 for a real challenge dont change anything and try to defend the hill just behind u when u start, No corner camping

[Kensai Achilles]

some cool ranks u've got there... I like it. I 'll upload my replays.

the file name is Kensai 2vs1 Swoosh. zip the log file i'm not so sure cuz I played it back to back, but I like the second one better, i'm sending them anyways.

[Swoosh So]

Cool ranks? Glad you liked it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Did you beat it ? Did you defend the centre hill where you deploy?


SWoooooooooooooooshoooooowl

[Swoosh So]

Give a nice battle report if u play it, Ie did the byzantines and english attack together? How did you win etc

I cant download your replay till saturday http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Swooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

[Kensai Achilles]

I uploaded it but not sure how to put it to where u placed the cfg, so I uploaded it in recorded battle upload section.

I meant cool ranks for the opponents. Yeah I won thanks to the tanks u gave us http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Now I get a rough Idea of MP games, might want try it sometimes. but looks like it's pretty complicated huh, clan and all. maybe somebody should show me some ropes there. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

btw I didn't do much really just let them come, pulled the tanks behind to encourage AI to charge up hill. Encouragement was my key for luring AI to attack a single point (plus AI's limited capabilities)).

So I let the formation the way they were till the AI units were close. (didn't pull the arbs till it's evident) Then spread the cavs in 2 flanks (ie: allans for their missiles and tanks for the rest of them) and that's it.

In my first try out I put the artillery a lil bit up front as a bait for a single point attack, that worked too. But I spread out the flanks too early and ended up having two fronts instead. Heck of a try of disengaging those tanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif even got my foot units wavering (and routed too I think) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif. So I like the second one much better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Swoosh So]

The army i chose for the player may represent a typical mp army maybe taking away the 2nd artillery piece and adding another foot troop or arbalister http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Kensai Achilles]

oh ic, well I don't mind artilery I love hails of cannon balls http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif They can be a handful too. (think might only work against AI)

For the first part I ordered the artillery to spread fear among the AI's infantries (morale penalties).

The second part, as the tanks were close to flanking, the artillery spread fear among the AI's missiles, cuz the two allans needed that morale support to herd the 8 missiles and cuz my sargeants no longer needed them (already got one from the tanks flank). Funny thing was that they killed my flanks more when they were routed grrr

Hope that describes it till u get the mrp, and i'll be off for few days unless i can use the crappy laptop somehow http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Happy holidays http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Kensai Achilles]

I also uploaded my custom battle with the configuration mentioned above: almohad vs (spanish + byzantine) the file name is Ken 2 vs 1.zip

Since I haven't played MP game, I suppose i'm not really entitled to say that corner camping is boring. So I also included my corner camping replay.

Should the admins ever decided to post my files (this and Swhoosh's 2vs 1 that i've played). Try to beat the AI in Ken 2vs1.zip the way it is, don't change anything else. You can change the terrain for fun but not the map. You can attack or defend however you like except corner camping (we have cc already so let's make it interesting shall we? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ).

It would be a great deal of knowledge (at least for me) to learn different ways of playing.

So don't get slaughtered http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ... Cheers

[Cid]

This looks like a good way to get ready for multiplayer which I think I might give a whirl.

2v1 is the only file I see listed in the download section. I didn't see the replays there. I'd like to see how/what you guys did.

[barocca]

here's the cfg file
Swoosh cfg file (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/2V1.cgf.zip)

here's Swoosh's replay
Swoosh replay file (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWrecords/SwOooooOosh.mrp.zip)

here's Kensai's replay's
Ken 2v1 Defend (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWrecords/Ken%202%20vs%201%20defend.zip)
AND
Ken 2v1 swoosh (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWrecords/Kensai%202vs1%20Swoosh.zip)

[Cid]

Thanks Barocca but I keep getting "Telefragged"- an obscene sounding name and something I won't take lying down.

Actually, it's happened on a couple of other links too.

[Kensai Achilles]

Thanks Barocca and Gregoshi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

durn just read posts in the library today... I should hv used wedge formation for the tanks. that would be cool don't u think?

[Swoosh So]

Thanks barocca even i couldent find the swoooooooosh replay and i uploaded it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Kensai Achilles]

Swoosh I wanted to email u a question but it's not listed. It's not a big deal anyways, I'm just wondering if u gave us the right cfg since your replay has different rosters. i.e. mrp has 4 K of Santiago (we get 2 K of S, and 2 allans), and 1 artillery plus 4 arbs (we get 3 arbs, and 2 artillery).

[Kensai Achilles]

After playing a few thousand battles against human opponents, I must take back my previous noobie SP player observation about cavs in wedge.

I fear i could hv mislead new players http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif. Wedge is not the best way to use cavs in flanking. In MP games, unless one knows what one's doing I wouldn't recommend wedge for cavs at all http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

edit:

Actually I take back many things that came from SP game perspective http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif