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HATAMOTOKILL
07-31-2001, 05:11
what are the top formations for attack?
and in defence? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif
any fail safe ways to attack?there must be some method which works 90%of the time...
you top gamers any advise? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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Major_Dump Asai
07-31-2001, 07:05
Use nothing but wedge formation and ashigaru. also, make your guns fight hand to hand and never shoot. this kind of thing scares the opponent into thinking you are loco and he will retreat. Also, always attack in the snow, with Naginatas if possible
ShaiHulud
07-31-2001, 11:01
Major.... You're an evil person! hehe
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LOL major..very funny. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif. I'm not anywhere near the top gamers so I leave them to answer your questions.
[Won-Ton] Atlus
07-31-2001, 13:11
i use a lot of speed also (hehehehhe) and i tend to agree with majors tactics. but remember, in low koku games, everyone gets yari samurai, and the best units against yaris are cavalry, so when the koku is low, always get one unit of yari cavalry and give it really high honour. remember, its quality, not quantity. and always run towards the enemy really quickly, but as soon as you get near, make them march quickly away. those are the tips i have to give you right now. but always remember, there are some that say getting ashigaru is cheap, because theyre the best unit, and invincible, but dont listen, its just cause they cant play.
Oh no...where is this thread going to? "Newbie's unSOUND advises?" http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Let's see the other guys think of better unSOUND tips hehe.
Never occupy hills. See, everybody has line-of-sight to you when you're on a summit -- and that means that everybody can pelt you with arrows and musket rounds from afar. So what you want is to let your silly opponents occupy the heights, and then you charge uphill (leading with your heavy horse, because they're armored the best) at them. Preferably in snow, which will quiet your footsteps so you can get in closer before they notice.
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this just silly . . the easy way to win is get at least 10 guns then shoose rain. . .ur opponent will think ur mad and run away LOL http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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p.s. if any1 listens to any of the advice in this thread hehe http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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WarlordWarrior
And... when the expansion comes out: you MUST (if you want to win, at least) get ALL sanda bomas and attack in heavy rainstorms.
Forget everything else. Just wet sanda bomas.
Or you are playing the Japos, get all Ashigaru Crossbowmen and charge them in wedgies at the enemy; forget their missle power (or lack thereof). They are heavily armored and are among the elite and best H2H units in the game (behind sanda bomas, but those are Mongol). You ever feel the crack of the butt of a heavy crossbow across your head? Now you know why they such nasty bastids!
Enjoy all!
*** Looks at himself puzzled, wondering if he made a mistake by sharing this sensitive intelligence with potential opponents...***
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The best tactics is still to sneak your taisho (daimyo even better) to onto the back of the enemy! This will create a large chaos and the victory is assured!
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vangersonm
08-01-2001, 02:06
There's an expansion pack that upgrades your calvary into a Armored Panzer Division.....................................
Your Archers transform into Snipers and The monks transform into Navy Seal Commandos........................................
y'all are SO eevil...
honestly, check out the totalwar.org site.
It can link you to several good tactics sites, then just get online and learn from the best
(SOOOO not me, BTW)
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-01-2001, 04:42
taken all your advice on-board lol http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
should be fun getting my ass kicked!!!!!!!!!
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-01-2001, 04:44
sometimes i think you guys must be on it http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif Quote Originally posted by LordTed:
Speed[/QUOTE]
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Hato!!!
genie of the lands!!!
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I think many have been spending too much time drinking saki at the local teahouse! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
Hato..the best answers you will get are in the archives.
Also read the excellent stories that Maltz is providing us. They provide an excellent source of strategic and tactical information for many of the clans.
Good Luck and enjoy
[Won-Ton] Atlus
08-01-2001, 13:23
what is this "saki"??? And what are "teahouses"??? *takes large gulp of his Coors from the local pub*
Speed. Where? I dont see any. Oh nevermind there it is. Wait that's not it. No speed here http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif. I prefer weed:smokin. E.T. phone home
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666HellSpawn
08-01-2001, 18:32
The other day I won a battle without fighting at all! What we did was this.....
We flew over the enemy in hot-air balloons and scattered leaflets over the side and onto the troops below. The leaflets said that we were not the real enemy but infact it was the Mongols who they should be fighting as they had been impregnating their womenfolk whilst the men were away fighting!
Worked a treat...they all legged it back home as quick as you like looking for some Mongols to duff up!
HellSpawn
A killer tactic guaranteed to work :
Buy all ashis , have them turn their backs towards the enemy. When the enemy charges , moon them.
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[This message has been edited by Satake (edited 08-01-2001).]
[Won-Ton] Atlus
08-01-2001, 22:55
if you send a bunch of orders in a short amount of time you get a bonus.
LOL satake that a very good one! hehe must try it!
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WarlordWarrior
You have all been kind enough to share all of your invaluable tactics on how best to gain victory on the battlefield.
What you have forgotten though, is to provide the young Taisho with a list of those most susceptible to your vaunted tactics. After all, what good are excellent tactics if you don't have an easy mark to practice on?
With that in mind, I will list the most obvious and leave the rest for you (after all, I don't want to be the only on having fun).
My choices would be first and foremost Magyar, followed closely by AMP and Kocmoc.
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I warned you, but did you listen? Ohh, no...it's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it?
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-02-2001, 02:28
Obake,they truly are the top players?or so i hear http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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Hato!!!
genie of the lands!!!
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nah they fall for these tactics everytime http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
never fails when my mooning ashi say hello to magyars' cav archer's arrows! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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WarlordWarrior
Like he'd be foolish enough to waste arrows on your peasants' backsides. Eerrr, i mean , most definately , he would! try it!
hehe exactly . . .hmm . . course. . .errrrrr.. . he would!
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WarlordWarrior
[Won-Ton] Atlus
08-02-2001, 12:44
lets test! *removes jag's pants*
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All my tactics are don't work so I will spare you any advice. Hee hee hee! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Quote Originally posted by Running Backwards:
All my tactics are don't work so I will spare you any advice. Hee hee hee! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]
hehehhehe your user name points that very good. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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BakaGaijin
08-05-2001, 14:48
Run away! Run away!
Actually, they all lie. The best army of all is composed entirely of Heavy Cavalry. Just load up on those babies and charge straight ahead! Uphill, downhill, rain, snow, bridges... DOESN'T MATTER! Heavy Cavalry clean up in all situations!
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also, never pick monks, they suck and in big koku games, always charge your whole army at 1 unit, you will crush it.....
HATAMOTOKILL
08-05-2001, 17:32
This justs get better!!!hahhaaaaaaaaa http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
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BakaGaijin
08-06-2001, 02:20
I forgot to mention one thing about Heavy Cav: The best place to use them is in forests. It's true! Don't believe what anyone else tells you, cavalry have a huge advantage in forests because the Yari, their worst enemy, tend to get stuck on trees when their wielders miss. Also, it's harder to flank a cavalryman through trees, so the Cav has a pretty big advantage there.
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-06-2001, 03:02
The best bet without getting hurt, if your attacking;is to hide in woods and let timer run out!!!!!!lol
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Hato!!!
genie of the lands!!!
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You must use your FLAMETHROWERS against the enemy infantery, cavalry, archers, etc.
If there is a bridge, with the flamethrowers the enemy NEVER cross it.
BakaGaijin
08-06-2001, 08:00
Hata: Oh, yeah. Absolutely! But it only works if you're the attacker. If you're defending, the enemy will just run to the forests and find you.
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Doragon_Ajidrik
08-06-2001, 08:42
Hata, with all these good tactics, I am surprised you havent broken into th top 100 yet http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Here is a serious tip though, when playing against elmarkoFear, be sure to bring gas masks. if its low koku, then blindfolds and clothes line pins will do http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Pussiecat
08-06-2001, 08:47
I have seen a tactic that works every time it is used.
basically - you play 2v2. setup near your ally and let him advance towards the enamy. stand each of your units behind your allies - and charge at him - you will receive much advantage - not only for attacking from the rear, but also attacking an unsuspecting 'foe'. after the battle - make sure you receive payment from your new allies - this part is the only chance of failure.
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Kraellin
08-06-2001, 10:51
amateurs. amateurs all.
such clumsy, gross, cumbersome machinations. what you need is the subtlety of the assassin's touch.
first, you must recruit nothing but young men, 30 years of age or younger if possible. you need not train or arm these men whatsoever. about a month prior to when you anticipate going into battle, longer if possible, you approach your cook, bringing along your master apothecary or whoever is in charge of making your gunpowder.
you instruct this worthy to instruct the cook in the use and application of one of the key ingredients of gunpowder, saltpeter, and you instruct this worthy to provide to the cook copious amounts of this ingredient to be placed into the food of your troops.
now, as any good general knows, saltpeter, when ingested, has a rather deleterious effect upon the libido and in turn this has a rather deleterious effect upon one's manhood, rendering the user not physically impotent, but rather just not that interested in the joys and act of intimacy with a woman.
instruct the apothecary and the cook as to spiking the food of your troops with liberal amounts of the powder.
now, one thing i forgot to mention earlier is that all of your young men must be relatively newly married. upon the day of the battle, gather up all of your young men and send them home with instructions to send thier wives to your camp. as soon as they arrive blindfold them and carefully guard these women with your most devout and celibate monks...or very old men with guns....or both. make sure that you remain out of sight until the blindfolds are in place.
lead them to the field of battle and do not worry about arming them or positioning them or hiding them or anything else...just keep their blindfolds on. as the enemy approaches and is yelling and whooping simply remove the blindfolds from the women and have your guardsmen quickly step back. again, make sure that you are completely out of sight when this is done.
after about an hour or so it shld be relatively safe to approach your...withered... enemy lying helplessly upon the ground, too tired to attack or even to retreat. there may also be a few horses lying about if the enemy was so equipped, though this is somewhat unusual.
dispose of the enemy as you will and return the now placid, smiling women to their homes.
and, oh yes, make sure the cook discontinues all use of the powder and that all remaining contaminated food is destroyed..for the safety of your homeland.
kill the cook and the apothecary. word of this must never reach the ears of the women. the cook and the apothecary will be your only casualties; a small price to pay for your victory.
and THAT is the simplest and cheapest way to win any battle with a man.
K. ;)
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Murmandamus
08-06-2001, 11:12
Superb Kraellin.
Here's a simple tip for defence. Space you units out evenly over the entire battle ground in loose formation so as to cover as much area as possible. When the enemy appears they will be fooled into believing you have a whopping great army and will instantly flee quivering in fear.
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[Won-Ton] Atlus
08-06-2001, 13:16
Now those are good tactics. Here is some more advice:
dig a huge pit (10 feet deep about) that spans the whole battle field, a trench of sorts. Then, fill it with the fecal matter of your troops. Of course, cover this up with your best pit coverers and make sure it is pretty much invisible. Position your troops about 10 yards from this trench and taunt the enemy with insults and provocotive language, and the occasional mooning, and when the enemy charges, they will all fall into the huge pit filled with poop. then march your men to the top of the pit and laugh maniacally as you beat the crap (hehehe) out of them.
Quote Originally posted by BakaGaijin:
I forgot to mention one thing about Heavy Cav: The best place to use them is in forests. It's true! Don't believe what anyone else tells you, cavalry have a huge advantage in forests because the Yari, their worst enemy, tend to get stuck on trees when their wielders miss. Also, it's harder to flank a cavalryman through trees, so the Cav has a pretty big advantage there.
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BakaGaijin, you're wrong about the Yari being the worst enemy of HC. If you think of it, they are the easiest prey since Yari's are slow moving compared to the horsies http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif Whenever you are in combat, always use your cavalries to attack YARI units...preferably uphill inside a forest and charging head on in loose formation http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gifRemember that YARIs have lower morale than HC so they'll break first even if they have higher honor. Er..and an additional tip is, count the flags the YARI units are carrying,..and always attack them if you see that their flags outnumber the flags that your HC unit carries..it is the best time to capture more flags for your unit and for the glory of your clan.
BakaGaijin
08-06-2001, 14:59
I meant in the trees. Yari are the worst threat to cavalry in trees, as the other petty troops won't even approach the cav there. Elsewhere, yes... they are the best targets for cav. And be sure to avoid those archers and gunmen like the PLAGUE when you use cavalry! They may not carry big spears, but they can use their guns or bows to trip your horses! Definitely stay away from those guys.
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Erado San
08-06-2001, 16:34
Best advice I can probably give is take this thread, read the 'advice', ignore comments on flame throwers and Panzers, then turn the advice around and do what they're advising you NOT to do. Ya can't lose http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Erado.. how would you revert mooning? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
(i dare not think of it)
Always set up as far forward as possible with your entire force facing sideways with your taisho in reserve. This never fails to entice your opponent into an insane flank rush. As his very tired troops approach, move all except your taisho quickly at 90 degrees to the rush which should draw his force with it. With the enemy's flank exposed, charge with your H9 Heavy Cav taisho at the critical moment, and rout the enemy from the field.
If by chance your opponent has targetted your taisho with his force, then stand your ground with the taisho in a single vertical line with hold formation, hold position and hold on to your hat options selected, and, with lightning speed, counter charge your force into the enemy's flank.
This strategy requires quite a bit of practice to get the timing down just right. So, practice it many times until it clicks. Don't get discouraged. Good Luck!
MizuYuuki ~~~
Clan Takiyama ~~~
Winning strategy (either side): Get ONE single unit, honor 0, and hide them in a grove of trees. The enemy will exhaust themselves looking for you and will eventually rout from exhaustion. Make sure you get honor 0, as the extra flags of additional honor points are easily spotted as they pop through the canopies.
[This message has been edited by Vanya (edited 08-06-2001).]
Catiline
08-07-2001, 00:19
Satake, Erado's men are invariably caught with their pants down, and have to know how to pull them up quickly in order to flee more efficiently http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-07-2001, 03:19
is this unit in the woods hideing?or have they just gone for a leek!!!!!!!lol
pissing their pants i guess http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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vangersonm
08-07-2001, 03:23
i hate it when people hide a single unit in the trees.........i spend alot of time looking for them!
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http://www.plauder-smilies.de/person/ninja.gif If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them.
Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
vangersonm
08-07-2001, 03:24
i do think that i lost a couple games because of that!!!!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/mad.gif
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http://www.plauder-smilies.de/person/ninja.gif If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them.
Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
Erado San
08-07-2001, 03:47
Indeed, Cat, my men are famous for that. Have I told you about that time when I tried to incorporate a unit of female warriors into my army...?
BakaGaijin
08-07-2001, 05:53
I actually order my Ashigaru to drop their pants around their ankles... not so they can moon the enemy, but to slow them down so they can't run away from the fight! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-07-2001, 06:09
Might as well give them an egg and spoon!lol http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Knight Owltwwooo!!!
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-07-2001, 06:11
In summer or winter eeeeeeeee!!!!!!?
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HATAMOTOKILL
08-09-2001, 05:06
Serious stuff now plz! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
playing online great!some vg players,need a little help though?
so if u want to play me lets us know?
Ratta anychance u show me tha ropes?plz http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
big thxs to u all who helped so far,friendly bunch of guys.enjoy my time here(ORG.
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