Some little findings about Add-On

[Gustavus2]

Guys, I have some English problems, but I don't care since you guys
not my English teachers. 8-)

Thus I can post some little findings about the Add-On.

First, the Add-On seems buggy, such as, play some custom 3v3, jump
back to Windows Desktop during fighting.

And, some little icons within dialog got mess up too.

But not a big deal, still not sure if play multi on-line would happen
or not. No one play me, 8-), I log in the new server many times, just
me with honor 100 show on the player list. Oh, the old fine magic number
100.

Here are some about the "New" Japanese units, Mongol units will post later.

Now, Archer got more kill. Such as, I found, just kill 2x then out of ammo
b4. But now, mostly kill 4x. So the Archer lover would like this.

Then, Cav Archer not only can move fast, just stand and shoot with enemy
foot archer, then, Cav archer may got more kill. Nice, they get paid more
thus should kill more.

Gunners still shoot more longer than archers. But since add-on army don't
run away so soon, so Gunners would not so powerful.

Monks still powerful, but not as monster as b4. Now, they strong but got
more lost than b4. So, some said, Monks still strong since army not run
so soon during Gunners shooting. But, since monks got more lost now. They
may all die very soon, no one left for run away. 8-)
I think, now, we may not meet monks rusher too much.

Tell you some story .....

A guy use 15 Monks to me in a game, then, another day, he blame me take
7 monks in game.

Another guy use 4 Guns 6 Monks and 4 No-dachi and 2 YS, I take 4 Guns 2
archer, 2 Cav(YC and HC), 6 Monks as him take too, and 1 no-dachi 1 YS.
That guy lost the game, then he call me monk rusher. LOL

What a brave new world! 8-)


No-Dachi stronger than b4, so maybe some think may use No-Dachi Rush. Not
sure, still many weak point within No-Dachi. So still need more games to
find out. But if it's me, yes, I will save some koku for No-Dachi rather
than monks.

Hcav still got beat by Ycav with same honor. But the new one, Nagi Cav really
interesting. Seems this new cav unit can kill many kind of units except YS.
I am still testing Nagi Cav, but I found I love it, may use them often in game.

Sword Saint is monster, I test a game, then found why my guys can not kill just
one guy in a nice little place? So I get closer to check, it's Sword Saint!
Yes, they are interesting, but not worth that much koku! I can use 1 H2 No-Dachi
unit to kill 1 Sword Saint then just lost 18 men only. So, I don't think smart
guys will use them often. But if you are happy, may use them as your General unit
so, you are a Sword Saint! MuWaHahahahahaha ....... Miyamoto Musashi!!!

NinJa can shoot and fight by hands. A bit like very strong Archers. They hide,
move fast, shoot fast then fight fast. I love this units since they looks funny
8-). But, again, I may not use them often.

Nagi stronger, but still, hmmmmm, suck! Move slow, fight slow and die soon.
But, if you want ask me, I think you may use them more often than b4.

I test mongol army yesterday, but not get very close looks. I will test them tonight
then post some little findings here.

Ok, guys, we here got add-on a little bit sooner than you. But not a big deal.
Really!
You just think, yeah, you got add-on sooner, but China may attack Taiwan anytime,
so what?

Yeah, right! That's it!!! 8-)))


So I post any my findings here, and post what I know and what I think only.
It's truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth. LOL

See you guys soon......


Gustavus2

[The Scourge]

Sounds pretty good so far.

Im waiting to hear how well the strategy game plays with all the small improvements.

Woe is me.I won't be able to get hold of the dam thing for at least another month or so.

[Erado San]

Gustavus,

It's too early for me to say anything about the graphic glitches or the crash.

I would appreciate it if you would post it in the tech support forum. Add your specs and be as detailed about the issues as you can.

I guess it's gonna be busy there again...

[Jaxem]

Can't wait to start playing it!

-J

[Puzz3D]

Hi Gustavus,

Thanks for this info about the gameplay. Sounds like the NEW original game is going to play quite differently than the OLD original game. Now I understand what CA/DT are doing. There is a whole new server for the new game. Since the compatibility patch for the old game seems to have disappeared, we should maintain the two forums here because the OLD and NEW are completly different games.

MizuYuuki ~~~
Clan Takiyama ~~~

[hide]

Hey~ Gustavus2(or should I say Karl?) it's me, nice to meet you here:-)
Well, I'm surprised that you actually came here and posted a topic. Heeheee...even though it's in English, but I can still recognize your writing style http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by hide (edited 08-08-2001).]

[TakeshidaSo]

Gustavus's last name is Adolphus, which is slightly out of use now, after WWII, and no wonder. A Taiwanese would probably not be named Karl, so the answer to your question is likely to be no. I work with a man named Karl, but since we live in Texas, which has large Germanic settlements, this is as should be expected. I speak with Gus all the time in english, and not only am I not his english teacher, I am not his english tutor either; no matter what he says. Lets be clear about that. I applaud those of you who can speak or write, even if its only barely passable, in one or more foriegn languages. I can only say that, if not for your great efforts, we would not be able to communicate at all. You may not be able to understand the nuances or the subleties, or even some of the zanier sides of this language; but you can always get by when you understand the meaning of the word 'suck'.

[Jaguar]

I don't think that the crashes will be a problem, they will probably come out with a patch for the xpack soon after its release everywhere.

[Puzz3D]

Jaguar,

LOL

MizuYuuki ~~~
Clan Takiyama ~~~

[DarthGuru]

heya Gustavus,
Did you already get your xpac?? or are these specs from the beta test?? I hope the xpac doesnt have too many glitches, but I'm sure their will be patches. Anyways can't wait to get mine, so you online http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

[Hosakawa Tito]

Thanks Gustav,could you give us a rundown on what the units cost?Be interesting to know what that Kensai master costs compared to the ND that you killed him with.

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[Polar]

hehe Gust, nice to see you posting here yourself http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

thx for the info and hope to see your mongol testing soon

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Polar the ugly

[Polar]

Tito, if I'm not wrong, a kensai unit will cost 600 koku, so is battlefield ninja.

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Polar the ugly

[LordTed]

Soon i cant wait to play it

[edRonin]

Went to EB today to see if WE was on the shelves, and it was, YAHOOOOO!!! Didn't pick it up since I ordered MI through EA and will wait for it to arrive.

One thing which I did notice though is I am going to have to upgrade my video card to play MI. Right now my card has 4 Meg of video RAM which is upgradable to 8 Meg. The System requirements for WE called for a card with 16Meg of video RAM.

So I am going to have to get a new card. Makes sense with the bigger maps and better graphics. Just want to make people with cards similar to mine aware of this before they try to install and run.

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[Hosakawa Tito]

Thanks Polar.600 seems low don't you think?HC is 600 and is a worse buy even after they supposedly tweaked some of these units for the expack.I can't wait to find out for myself.Keep it coming Gus,I won't get my copy till the 10th.

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[Polar]

Yes Tito, the japanese hcav is a bit weak, but consider the mongol hcav is also 600 koku http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif and the nodachi that killed kensai is only 300 kokku.....


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Polar the ugly

[Gustavus2]

Thanks guys for your kindly replies. 8-)

I think I should make a short note to explain more clear about
the Add-On.

Yes, it's release one, not beta. EA Taiwan sell this game here
with English/Chinese(Taiwan) edition together. Buy one get 2
language edition. I install English edition since English patch
always come out far sooner than other languages.

And, I am pretty sure that, if there are gods, EA should send
Patch for this soon. 8-)

The Add-On seems not totally finish well, most problems happen
on Mongol part.

Such as, if you play mongol part game, there are 8 players max
, 4 for mongol, 4 for Japanese army side. Jpanese side just 1
clan, Hojo. You know, in the old one, we can pick color such as
black, white, red, cyan etc. But in this one, you don't know what
color you get unless into the battlefield. But of course, it still
have color there, and if play more, you will remember what color
you get. 8-)

Another is, in Army info dialog and battle result dialog, you got
many generals names with a funny words say "" Could not translate"
. Seems it's the programers are talking to you. LOL
Mostly they are names of Korean.

I will post my system and some detail infomation on Tech forum later
as Erado said. Thanks Erado.
But these problems never happen to me b4 with old one. So ....


Add-On seems need better hardware to run it, especially Video card.
I am using Matrox G400 Max with 32Mb SGRAM, they run very well.
The graphics within Add-On is more beautiful than old one, and maps
change too. Such as the 4th kawanakajima map, the hill on the defender
side which everyone love, now, got some little nice short trees there.

There is a Map Editor within Add-On, Tosa, Kra and other great players
who made maps and offer so much fun to us would love this. But the
Editor was embed in the game option menu, not a stand alone tool.

Now make map more easy than b4. You can edit old one or make new one.
And can pick small, mid, or large size. How large is the large size?
Not sure, we may try some 4v4 to find out at another day.

Yes, the kensai(Sword Saint) honor 2 cost 600 koku, same as Polar said.
I just test another one to make sure, this time, I use H2 No-dachi(300
Koku) kill him(600KoKu) and just lost 11 men only.


I test all units on the nice flat map, Green. And let them fight head
to head. Such as, use Hcav to charge YS, just want get the Kill/Lost
ratio.

I think, if fight in other maps and use them with skill, tactics, may
got more difference result.

Here I post the cost table of "New" Japanese units in Add-On,
all are Honor 2:

Yari Ashigaru = 100
Yari Samurai = 200
Samurai Archers = 300
Naginata = 425
No-Dachi = 300
Monks = 500
Cav Archers = 450
Heavy Cav = 600
Yari Cav = 475
* Naginata Cav = 450 (They worth it! 8-))
* Kensai(Sword Saint) = 600 (Must be a MBA and wear golden armor)
Arq = 100
Musk = 175
* Ninja = 600

If you play the mongol period, you don't get monks and gunners in Japanese
army, but you got a new units called "Ashigaru Crossbows".

* Ashigaru Crossbows = 100

* means new units in Japanese army

BTW, now you are not just can spend koku for Honor, you can spend
koku for Weapon upgrade and Armour upgrade too.


See you guys soon ......


Gustavus2

[vangersonm]

i heard that china was running PRACTICE amphibious assaults near Taiwan

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http://www.plauder-smilies.de/person/ninja.gif If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them.

Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.

[RyuRatta Yamamoto]

Gus, thanks for all of the info.
Did y'all notice that he tested on Green? That answers the question of map compatibility, then.
Guess no Kensai rushers will be coming out of the woodwork, either.

[Swoosh So]

Hi gus interesting stuff btw could you check your email i sent u 1


Swoosh

[HATAMOTOKILL]

thxs Gus tell us more! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Does it play well?

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Hato!!!
Knight Owltwwooo!!!
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[Polar]

Thats not good enough guster!! still waiting for the mongol testing http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Polar the ugly

[DarthGuru]

when will mine arrive!?!?! I feel like a kid checking to see if a package arrived for me so often :P

[BakaGaijin]

With the Taiwanese training themselves on Mongol Invasion, the Chinese ought to think twice about their own invasion, lest they be defeated on the beaches and their fleet be smashed by a second Kamikaze! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

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[Gustavus2]

Guys,

LOL, DarthGuru!
Yes, I know your feeling. When I heard our people here talk about
can buy this game in some stores of Taipei. I take trash, my kid
went out. Dropped the trash to trash car, then, call a Taxi, run
to the store to buy it. My kid bother me in store. He want buy a
butterfly pictures sofeware for kid. I dind't buy. 8-) I seek the
Add-On and buy it. Feel like I am a kid more than my 3 years old
kid. 8-)

I read posts here, seems many US players got it already. So I should
post a little bit thinking about Mongol part, then stop writting
since US players got it, and, they have FAR FAR BETTER English
than me. LOL

Now, Mongol part .......

Mongol units not as many as Japanese units to pick. When I just
got the Add-On, need capture some screen shoot for Swoosh, so
I play a 1v1 on Totomi. 6000Koku, I pick Mongol army, then let AI
pick Japanese army. I use my normal 6000 army for AI, then try
quick pick units for my won Mongol army. I am busy to take pictures
during game. So I didn't really play it to against enemy(AI)......

Then I found,

MOGOL ARMY REALLY AWESOME!

They beat Jpanese army with kill almost 900 and just lost 350 only.

So there are at least 2 points first show in my mind after that,
1, Mongol Army strong!
2, Japanese army need a lot of fine tune to against Mongol. That
means, a lot of Custom battles, a lot of on-line friendly games,
think Units mixed again, or even think tactics again.

I am happy for this. Because that means players play the Add-On
need more skill and tactics, not just pick units then rush only.
Add-On would let games more fun, fight more longer, more tactic,
so maybe we need run around the whole map in every game. LOL

Got things to do now, next post will post Mongol part itself.


See you guys soon......


Gustavus2

[Swoosh So]

Thanks alot for all your input so far gus really helpful and the pics were great :-)


swooooooooooooooooooooshooooooooowl

[CeltiberoSkullXIII]

Quote Originally posted by TakeshidaSo:
Gustavus's last name is Adolphus, which is slightly out of use now, after WWII, and no wonder. A Taiwanese would probably not be named Karl, so the answer to your question is likely to be no. I work with a man named Karl, but since we live in Texas, which has large Germanic settlements, this is as should be expected. I speak with Gus all the time in english, and not only am I not his english teacher, I am not his english tutor either; no matter what he says. Lets be clear about that. I applaud those of you who can speak or write, even if its only barely passable, in one or more foriegn languages. I can only say that, if not for your great efforts, we would not be able to communicate at all. You may not be able to understand the nuances or the subleties, or even some of the zanier sides of this language; but you can always get by when you understand the meaning of the word 'suck'.[/QUOTE]

WELL SAYED and GUSTAVUS i wish all the luck from the world man!!!


SKULL XIII


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[Gustavus2]

Guys,

First look, I mean just "look", I don't so like the new Mongol
units. They use the "Not So Beautiful" dark yellow for them. And,
foot units of Mongol look like the Persian army(Achemenide) who
got beat by Alexsander the Great that show on stone relievo.

However, when I take a close look and test, I found, some of them
are really a "Hard to beat" army.

Oh, yes, Mongol Heavy Cav. They shouldn't call them "Heavy Cav",
They should call them as "Iron Cav", or "M1A2"!
Mongol Heavy Cav wear Heavy armor and carry spear, but still move
fast, then, crush everything they meet. If same honor, says, 2,
They can beat any Japanese unit include YS. But of course, they
lost many while fight Japanese YS. So. seems Japanese YS and Nagi
are the best units to defend Mongol Hcav(But YS and Nagi need
higher Honor or Weapon, Armor upgrade). All Jpanese Cav can't
even stand longer while meet Mongol Hcav.

Mongol Light Cav, a bit like Cav Archers, but move very fast, and
shoot very fast, they keep hands busy, can shoot faster than Cav
Archers. Then, they can fight by hands as well, and, if fight by
hands, they can easy kill all of Japanese shooting units. If you
want shoot Mongol LCav, best choice is Crossbows. I mean just
shooting only. Crossbows seems can take more damage to Mongol LC
than CA and Archers. But, keep in mind, don't let Mongol LCav close
your Crossbows. Crossbows would not run away soon but die very soon.

Korean Skirmishers, they got shield and spear. Can shooting, I mean
drop spear to enemy in range shorter than archer, and fight by hands.
In my test, I use a H2 YS charge them, they shoot my YS 2 times b4
YS can close them. First drop, kill my 19 YS! 2nd drop, kill 1x too.
Then start fight by hands. This unit not very good while fight
by hands. When meet them, need quick rush them, otherwise, their
spears will drop to your guys, that hurt!

Korean Spearmen, they are a bit like YS, but stronger than same
honor YS and move slower than YS. They easy got beat by Nagi and
ND, better use Nagi to kill them all.

They move slow, very slow, even they are running, as slow as my
grand pa, Korean Guardsmen. They can kill YS and ND, but seems
Nagi can handle them.

Now, one of the most interesting unit is Thunder Bombers.
In my test, on Totomi, when I saw Enemy general(J Hcav), I send
my guys to stop them, then send this unit to .... hehehe ....
bomb them. BANG! enemy general die, BANG! enemy bodies evberywhere
, another BANG! enemy run away. Really fun! 8-)
Still, they move slow, and drop bomb range very very short, also
drop bomb speed is slow too. Another thing is, they are useless
while rain. But if you use them with right way, they are useful
and fun! BANG! Kill 20 men, BANG! another 20 men ...... I notice
they seems not only drop 3 times only, should be more. If it's me
, I see enemy use this to me, I will shoot them all b4 they can
get close me. Yes, they are easy got killed. But if they close you
and drop bomb, LOL, say good bye to this nice little warm world.


The funny thing is,

Mongol army seems is a combination of very fast units and very slow
units.
Thus, maybe the challenge to Mongol army is, how to keep all army
together? LOL
Or no need to keep them together? Send some here, send some there
run everywhere, fight everywhere ........

The challenge to Japanese army is, when you need face Mongol army,
how to against this army? Or, at least, not got killed so many? LOL

One thing I can sure is, we may need think more about the Units
mixed. Now, seems you can not get the victor when just use a simple
and some said "Stupid" army.


Guys, That's it. Not much, and I think, not many valuable viewpoints
here too.

There are many kind of people, and so is, many kind of style.
Some like apple, another may like orange more. So I think, the rest
need you guys to find out by yourself.

One thing I can sure is, if you like Shogun, you will love the Add-On!


My little plan from now on is,

I will be a Zen monk now, close my door, cut off my phone line, drop
my mobile phone away, then, play a lot of custom, a lot of history
battle and another part of this ADD-On. Till the Add-On show
everyehere, and everyone get it already. Then I will on-line to seek
some fun like b4.


See you guys soon ...... and take care, don't play too much, 999 games
per day seems fine enough. LOL


Gustavus2

[Takeda Shingen]

I discovered a couple of things the first one is when the harvest report comes up you don't get the voice telling you about it.Also when a messenger from another Damiyo comes to propose a treaty you don't go to the throneroom now what gives?

Michael

[DarthGuru]

wow gus
thanks for the indepth review of the game http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
those bombers sound hilarious!

[ishikawa2]

The "thunder bombers" are very entertaining to watch. It was fun to run them up to the wall of a castle and have them lob the bombs inside.

I think the novelty may wear off fast, though. Their aim is terrible and you don't want to use them if you have any of your troops anywhere near their front. They also seem to be quite fumble-fingered and they often drop bombs with lit fuses at their own feet. On my first attempt at using them, I think the "friendly fire" butcher's bill exceeded the enemy kills!

[Yoko Kono]

Well i may as well put in my two bobs worth on th new units

Mongols

Mongol Heavy Cav - like has been said elsewhere they are virtually indestructible
Mongol Light Cav - Far supurier to cavb arch in many ways. These are like a combo xcav, exceptional speed and good attack plus the ability to fire arrows makes this unit my instant fave. At last cav run the way the should
Korean Spearman - hmm suspect. they seem to be stuck halfway between YS and YA, dodgy morale methinks but half decent cav stoppers
Korean Guardsmen - not as good as nags defensively but faster and a lot more punch pound for pound
Korean Skirmishers - Mmmmm. For me the susprise delight of the expansion. Sheilds have the ability to take arrow fire with *reduced* casualties and they carry javelins . 1 volley of javelins at a charging dachi can kill 10+ easily making these guys very effective skirmishers (hence the name) to put in front of them thunderbombers
Thunder Bombers - hmm. only 3 grenades each and deployed normally in 20 man units. NEVER EVER let these guys fire in rows of 3 or more as the back guys WILL KILL the front 3 rows. these things are very short range but devastating. in the mongol historic campaign my 120unit size fired at point blank range a single volley of grenades into a unit of 120 YS and reduced that unit to 11 men. A godsend when it comes to taking castles and almost as valuable when attacking and defending bridges

Japanese

Ashigaru Crossbowmen - im unsure bout these guys. they seem just like arques without the morale penalty. undecided
Kensai - OMG. how funny it is to rush 8 of these tooled up with armour and weapon upgrades across a bridge. These little guys are awesome and make great taishos. A single dachi unit will kill him but only after he gets tired, if the Kensai aint tired he wont die. Use em for flanking as nobody will see him comin
Battlefield Ninja - Come in neat 12 size units. Pain in the arse to fight against these guys disappear even in the plains of totomi. Ideal for flanking and springing susprise rear attacks on the enemy, they also carry ammo, and lots of it
Naginata Cavalrymen - Not as strong defensively as the heavy cav. Lacks the ranged attack of cav arch. lacks the speed of yari cav. More than makes up for it with its incredible ability to punch thru units. the `F1` screen in battle is still bugged and displays 0 for attack but im pretty certain this has the best attack of all the japanese cav (with yari scond, then heavy) I would guess an attack of around 6 for this unit. Ditch the heavy and buy this a steal at 450 kokus

Drill Dojo - hmmm. makes routing men rally faster but what else?

1 last thing
and this is the mongol invasions big failing point
who the f**k came up with the nagis new icon
i mean come on
its feckin mingin
me like the old one
patch it
and fast
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

Yoko

[HATAMOTOKILL]

Gus tell us more! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Knight Owltwwooo!!!
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[Gustavus2]

Guys, seems I miss something here, so I gotta open the door again
to write something short here. 8-)
Ahhhh, I sent my wife and my kid go to my wife's mother home
already, now no one cook for me. LOL

Maps
Yes, seems all old maps can play very well under Add-On.
As I said, I test all units on the old fine nice flat map, GREEN.

I installed all maps that made by other great players and mark
these files as "Read Only", so I know which map came from game,
which made by other players.

I just install the Add-On over the old one(Patched 1.12), then
start play it. No problems.


System

Shogun English Full inatalled with patched 1.12
Shogun MI Add-On 1.00

OS,
MS-Windows 98 Second Edition

PC,
AsusTek P3B-F Mainboard (Intel BX chipsets)
Intel Pentium III-700 (Not overclocking)
384MB PC-100 SDRAM
32GB IBM UltraATA-66 HDD
Matrox G400 with 32MB SGRAM AGP Video card
Sound Blaster SB Live! PCI Sound Card with 4 speakers
Adaptec AHA2940U Ultra SCSI PCI Card
Plextor 32X SCSI CD-ROM

MS-Natural Keyboard Pro
MS-IntelliMouse with Wheel PS/2 Mouse

ADSL 512/64 Connection

Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 700 17" Monitor with BNC connection


DirectX,
This game came with MS-DirectX 8.0a runtime on CD.

But,

I am using MS-DirectX 8.1 Beta Build 648. 8-) (4.08.01.0648)


I test another 3v3 custom games again, no problems, fight
to end and fight to dead.

Yes, this game run very smooth under my system.


By the way, guys, turn the sound to max then listen them...
The Mongol army are talking Chinese. LOL

"Se Gi Ya" means "Shooting"!
"Kon Gi" means "Attack"!

Didn't notice the Retreat yet ..... 8-)


See you guys soon .....


Gustavus2

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[DarthGuru]

how about the drops?? those still occur often?? and does it lag in multiplayer rain or fog like it used to??

[FearofFucy]

I also notcied that there are some few bugs in the game. Only in few maps.
Well a player droped and 1 of my units were helping him before he droped in a battle. After he droped I couldnt get my guys out of that melee. tried everything but they got stucked there.

And on another map of the expack ,twice on the same spot, without beeing in a fight (only gun battle) my gen gets killed within 2 mins.

[Gustavus2]

Michael,

I didn't play the Full Campaign yet, still testing units.
But I notice, the Add-On seems has some minor problems about
voice. Such as, in a custom battle, I kill enymy general, yes
I saw message show that like b4, but didn't hear any voice with.

And, about the Throne Room, did you check the option?

"Options Menu"
"Game"
then,
check the "Throne Room" option. It's disable by default, so you
may need check it to enable it.


DarthGuru,

I am sorry, didn't play any on-line battle yet. 8-)
So have no idea about the lag or anything else. I will try it
after the European m8s got it already. Should be at end of Aug
or Sept. You may ask Yuuki, Kra or Fucy, they seems start play
on-line games.


See you guys soon .....

Gustavus2

[Puzz3D]

DarthGuru,

My impression after a several 1v1, a 2v2 and a 3v3 is that performance is about the same as Shogun v1.12. The 3v3 was so slow that we quit, but birds were enabled and I don't know what everyone was using for a machine. The host had a fast connection with LAT to me of 100. The 1v1's and 2v2 played fine. I think the drops are still a problem because the battle database already has 9 games "playing" out of 27 comp games played in the last 2 days.

MizuYuuki ~~~
Clan Takiyama ~~~

[Gustavus2]

Hi again, Michael,

I just clear 2 things up,

If you play Mongol part, then,

1, You may meet some message without voice. Such as I just said,
kill enemy general but got message no voice.
I think, maybe they can't get enough Chinese voice clips into
this game, so they just let them quiet. 8-)

2, Mongol part no Throne Room can sit and enjoy the geisha. 8-)
Mongol use kibitka, seems the Add-On didn't do this yet. 8-)


Gustavus2

[DarthGuru]

Thanks for the input Yuuki and Gustavus.

btw Fucyu can you tell us the names of those maps, so before we play we can know which maps will give us certain problems?

[Yoko Kono]

mongols do get voices in battle
`great khan the enemy general is dead may we use his skull as a drinking cup`
or words to that effect
Yoko

[Gustavus2]

Yoko,

Yes, I do check these voce files in sub folders and listen them. They are Interesting. 8-)

You are right if you set the voice to English. But seems can't get such voice with message while you set voice to Japanese and play Mongol part.


Gustavus2

[LightningSaint]

Hey, did the Strategy school actually make it into the X-Pack? Or did they only put in the Drill Dojo?

[Lord Aeon]

No, only the drill dojo is in the game. If there is a strategy school, i haven't seen it.

And to further confirm: yes, the Mongols have battlefield and strategy map voices.

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"You have offended my family, and you have offended a Shaolin temple."

[Gustavus2]

Thanks Guys for clear something up. 8-)

But,
Please help me to check this,

In the Game Options menu,
"Options"
"Audio"
then,
"Speech", please select "Japanese".
And,
Play a custom game, you must select "Mongol" side, let
AI(Computer) select "Japan" side.
Can you hear any voice with message during battle? Such
as you kill Japanese General, then, should show a message
with voice to tell you that.

In my testing, I can not hear any voice with message while
my "Speech" option set to "Japanese" and play Mongol side.
(Play Japanese side no such problems)

If my "Speech" option set to "English", yes, no problems
at all.

Thanks. 8-)


Gustavus2