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Lion King
12-16-2002, 01:59
Hey everyone, i entered this forum to gather people for my future MOD (modification) for MTW, its no simple humble MOD, its a total conversion(all gfx, sfx, units, map txt etc changed), or if the first option is not possible or too hard, a semi-conversion (units, stats and txts in majority).
details will follow when i finally have access to a proper forum (the MTW one)
are there already any MODs out for this wonderful game??
thanks for your time

Lion King

Lion King
12-16-2002, 02:18
k, just to wet your mouthes (if currently there is no mod available), i will describe shortly the mod.

This mod will be based on many RPGs worlds, with exotic races such as elfs, dwarfs, giants and humans, the combat system will be heavily changed in order to produce truly epic battles of good against evil

If a full conversion is possible, it will feature:
-Different races, each with unique units may wage war and condut diplomacy in a specially modified map. No longer the fight is confined to Europe, a fantasy land with very strategic and fun terrain features and province borders will players new opportunities to prepare all kinds of funnelings, multi-front wars etc..
-Different map textures will add to the depth and fun factor, fight near volcanoes, swamps or massive arenas
-All new units, archers that really DO kill enemy units, giants, mages, new siege machines and much more.
-all new soundtracks which will fit each race
-changes in every other possible aspect of the game in order to change it completely

that is just a little tought, if you are interested in participating, please post here, along with your skills which could help the MOD

desdichado
12-16-2002, 02:25
I could playtest for you http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Not much good at anything else when it comes to modding

chilliwilli
12-16-2002, 02:54
Where is Mithrandir when you need him? This is right up his ally http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif. If I recall he also was working on a Fantasy MOD a while back when MTW first came out, but never finished. You might want to talk to him, I'm sure he could help in some way.

Lion King
12-16-2002, 03:34
i saw that topic (btw where is the editing forum?? i forgot&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
he started the mod then said he didnt have the dedication, he quit...
my mod will be a bit different, in terms of races and their attributes, and i am also an experinced modder, 3d modeler and GFX artist, i have the dedication, as long as there is enough crew to man this mod, the minimum staff is IMO:

1 programmer-me
1-3 GFX artists
1 concept artist
2-4 beta testers
1 webmaster/webdesigner

Lion King
12-16-2002, 03:37
oh, btw, does anyone know where can i find a program to edit or at least view a .bif file?

Knight_Yellow
12-16-2002, 03:37
Ehhh its alrdy being done (fantasy total war) by about 4 different modders.
Plus i dont whant to sound gay but if u want elves and orcs play warcraft 3.

Gregoshi
12-16-2002, 04:40
Hey Lion King, welcome and wow You are one ambitious modder. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

The modding forum is the Dungeon. You can find a BIF file reader and editing information in the downloads section of this site.

I'm sure there are more than a few folks here who'd like to swap knowledge and ideas with you.

Lion King
12-16-2002, 13:02
Thanks gregoshi, and yes, i am very ambitious, but thats the way to go, IMO
so they ARE making the fantasy mod? sorry then, i though it never began...

knight, warcraft is definately another kind of gaming experince, i want to see huge armies battling against each other for the destiny of the world LOTR style, besides, i want strategy, not a click-fest...

well, i will check out this fantasy mod, maybe i can join their team, as my idea of a mod is very similar to theirs:


General modifications
-Religion system will be replaced by alignment, so you will have good, neutral and evil races(along with different aligned rebels)
-Architecture will be good/neutral/evil, according to the province’s original alignment
-Inns will have a much greater value, as it is one way to recruit armies from other races
-the papacy will be replaced by the “council”, which will help fight against evil factions or anyone who attacks the good factions
-All the graphics and in-game text will get a major revamp, including the campaign map, battle maps, textures and units
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RACES:

Elves

-The best archers in the game
-As their lands are rich in Mithril, their weapons can be extremely sharp, yet light and strong
-Their bodies are not very tough, and they don’t have much of a chance toe-to-toe against most of the other races, they are specialised in hit-and-run tatics, luring the enemy into their extremely deadly archers


Dwarves

-Very good armourers, they can upgrade their armour further than any of the other races
-Very tough bodies, they can last very long in a battle if they have a good armour
-Good, yet outdated siege machines
-Dwarves are born warriors and have a very good morale (besides, they are too slow to flee effectively)
- They love fights and may join the fray of battle even when told to stand off,
-Dwarves are small and somewhat slow, specially when carrying heavy armour and tire quite fast
-Horses are too big for them, and they have almost none cavalry units, as ponies are scarce http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Humans

-They are the most advanced technologically, having the possibility of discovering gunpowder
-They can train more types of agents than any other race
-They have a wide selection of cavalry
-Humans are not the bravest beings and they have low morale
-Although they are all-around in physical conditions, their bodies somewhat inferior

Orcs

-War-like mind, their lives are dedicated almost solely to combat and destruction
-Although ugly, orcs are strong and fit, they can run faster, and don’t tire as much as the other races, and their blows can be devastating
-They can field great armies quite fast, but the price to pay is low training level
-They are the least developed technologically, producing low quality weapons and armor, their siege engines are not very reliable and have good chances of breaking/exploding in combat

Halflings

-Adept mages, their sorcerers and magical siege machines scare and kill enemies with ease
-They are very quick for their size, and wear light armour in most cases
-They are very good at managing provinces and trading, generating extra money.
-They are very small and with their light armour, direct combat is suicide, they need to use very careful tactics, making use of their magic to stand a chance

Lion King
12-16-2002, 15:03
ok, here comes the list of confirmed and tested features that will be present in the mod so far:

-completely redone battle texts
-New leader names, according to each race (you dont want an elf called william wallace do ya?)
-Redone vices+virtues
-edited weather system to conform to the new climates and terrains
-all units will be changed (exept maybe some human units)
-all new graphics, parchments backgrounds, terrain textures etc..


now the ones i want but i am only 50% sure they are possible:

-changing the strategy map, so instead of playing across europe, battle will happen in a whole new imaginary world
-changing the AI so it can play decently in this new map

there are loads more things, but i need to e-mail the devs for some help, if they frequent those boards, i am pretty confident they will hear and help me mod

BTW how do i edit posts so i dont have to post again every time i want to add some info for my MOD

Gregoshi
12-16-2002, 15:28
Lion King, on the top line of your post, the line with your name, click on the word edit on the right side of that line.

Lion King
12-16-2002, 18:33
there is only quote there, i think this might be because i am a junior member

Gregoshi
12-16-2002, 23:18
Not anymore. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Whitey
12-16-2002, 23:29
Lion King, please e-mail me...

Musashi
12-16-2002, 23:36
I'm working on a fantasy mod myself, but it's a little different 'cause I'm basing it on a fantasy world I created years ago for use in a long series of tabletop RPG campaigns and it's a bit unique. I'll be replacing religion with allegiance rather than alignment, and the factions aren't really race based. I've been working on it in my spare time, it's not very far along but it's fun to do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

-Musashi

Lion King
12-17-2002, 02:22
thanks gregoshi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
well, i just figured out how to edit the unit graphics, but they look kinda blue http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
whitey, how can i e-mail you if you kept your e-mail private?
moving all the info in this post and a few new things to the dungeon (creating a new post)
finally, access to the other forums http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

JoeBax
12-17-2002, 17:37
Just last night I was thinking it would be great to have this game engine run a campaign in middle earth, or something similar.

I would love to beta test for ya http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.

ps warcraft, age of wonders and such are cool games but very different from this type of game.

Dark Prince
12-17-2002, 17:44
kinglion is it possibel to create mod which you can play as the Golden Horder at the early period? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Lion King
12-17-2002, 21:30
Dark Prince, yes, it is very easy actually. go to google.com and look for Iced Metal editing guide without the s you will find the iced metal's editing guide that tells you exactly how to do that

JoeBax, sure thing i will finish the first (and primitive) version this week, with the new units i will upload it here if possible...

Whitey
12-18-2002, 05:03
sorry Lion, john-paul@treen.co.uk

I guess I'll set it to public for the future then...

Lion King
12-18-2002, 20:04
k, e-mail sent, Whitey... can someone tell me how to upload files here? I am almost finishing the fisrt version with a few units, just for a laugh