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I was wondering about the offices of state, if I assign one of them to a general, will his vices and virtues apply to the whole kingdom, or still only his province? or is it only his stats (Command, Piety, Accumen etc etc) that apply?
If I got a general who is a true zealot and give an office, will the zeal rise in the whole kingdom then?
Dark Prince
12-18-2002, 02:37
The general has Zealot in his Vice and Virtue,if he assign office title like The duke of Dane to him,then the whole kingdom's zeal will raise... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Dark Prince, your humour is a bit too dark for a dimly lit entrance hall. All I see were your eyes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I don't think the offices will affect the entire nation, only the King would have such effect, but not even so.
I believe the offices is just a way to increase loyalty, accumen, commands or piety to a general with no other side-effect.
Perhaps i am wrong?
Annie
ToranagaSama
12-18-2002, 03:12
By Offices of State, I believe you mean Govenors, whose Vices and Vitures along with his stats apply ONLY to each govenor's particular province.
A King's v&v and stats apply overall to the Kingdom. Specifically, how is a bit murky. Lately, I've been wondering how more specifically a King's v&v/stats affect things; and particularly those of the Princes.
My Princes have super v&v along with acumen, but other than in battle, I don't understand what effect they give since Princes cannot be govenors.
I think I'll do a query in the Main Hall. I'm playing the Elmo on Expert and need all the help I can get. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
No.. not the governors.
These buildings and the titles they bestow .. taken from the readme file for the english.. so basically, bulding-based titles.
The English
Royal Palace Lord Great
Chamberlain
Constable's Palace Constable of
the Tower
Marshal's Palace Warden of the
Northern Marches
Chancellery Chancellor of
the Exchequer
Admiralty Warden of the
Cinque Ports
Cathedral Archbishop of
Canterbury
There are two types of titles, one for the governor and others because your province has advanced(have certian buildings built). Like a castle (or maybe it was royal palace) let me make a duke of denmark.
These titles give bonuses, most governor titles give only a loyalty bonus. Some titles add stats like acumen. When you give someone a non governor title I am not sure it has any effect on the province as far as stats go. Maybe increases loyalty in the province or an archbishop might effect zeal and/or religion.
When making a general a governor consider the following things:
You can make a general a governor to increase his loyalty, if his loyalty is a little low and hes a great general this can make him more loyal.
When you make a general a governor his acumen will increase the province income.
His dread rating will increase the loyalty of the province.
If the population has a high zeal rating then a governor with high piety will decrease chance of rebellion, if the governor has low piety and the population is highly zealous then chance of rebellion will increase.
As far as vices and virtues, I believe this has some effect on loyalty and effect on diplomatic relations, but I think its to a lesser degree than the generals actual stats. I dont think a governors vices or virtues wear off on the provnce at least not much but the stats definetly do.
Dark Prince
12-18-2002, 22:32
Quote[/b] (LadyAnn @ Dec. 17 2002,20:00)]Dark Prince, your humour is a bit too dark for a dimly lit entrance hall. All I see were your eyes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I don't think the offices will affect the entire nation, only the King would have such effect, but not even so.
I believe the offices is just a way to increase loyalty, accumen, commands or piety to a general with no other side-effect.
Perhaps i am wrong?
Annie
lady Ann:this is one of my favorite icon so far.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
btw I think that if general has been assigned title likeGreat chambalain of England by the king,he usually get bad vice several year later,especially if you assign him two different title at the same time,he could be the duke of Dane,and the King of Scotland..but he may get bad vice,it happened to me numerous time. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
ToranagaSama
12-19-2002, 02:28
Quote[/b] (Vrashk @ Dec. 17 2002,22:22)]No.. not the governors.
These buildings and the titles they bestow .. taken from the readme file for the english.. so basically, bulding-based titles.
Ohhhhhh...those Titles
GOOD question, of which I have no answers. I've been wondering myself, but haven't had time to focus on them. Mostly cause the buildings are so expensive and offer uncertain results.
Another question for the Main Hall I guess.
ToranagaSama, throws a zing at the crappy manual http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif
About getting bad vice out after you bestow the title of Chamberlain to one of your general: I think I encountered the same problem more than often. Now you said it happened to you too, I start to get suspicious http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Give a 5 star general the Chamberlain title and he becomes too fat, corrupt and his picture turns ugly (no, just the picture, he has not join the clan). Currently, I only give the title to a key province's governor to boost his tax collection. As soon has he get bad vibe, I replace him. Four accumen governors are common enough.
Annie
Dark Prince
12-19-2002, 03:27
From now on if i want to build good general,I won't assign him any titles at all,nevertheless,I won't let my princess marry him,it may give him perservation http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Quote[/b] (LadyAnn @ Dec. 18 2002,20:14)]Give a 5 star general the Chamberlain title and he becomes too fat, corrupt and his picture turns ugly (no, just the picture, he has not join the clan). Currently, I only give the title to a key province's governor to boost his tax collection. As soon has he get bad vibe, I replace him. Four accumen governors are common enough.
If you have a general in a province with very high taxes for a long time this can happen to show that it is a rich province and the governer is getting lazy..
Dark Prince
12-20-2002, 06:44
If you send your general to battle every year,and yet he still get very lazy as his bad vice,how can you explain that??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Gregoshi
12-20-2002, 08:42
The general needs to rout more often to stay in shape. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] (Dark Prince @ Dec. 19 2002,23:44)]If you send your general to battle every year,and yet he still get very lazy as his bad vice,how can you explain that??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
It would seem the game mechanics ignore that.
It is still possible though.. =-) Once a year you go to work, the rest of the time sit at home and play Total War: Medieval (which this would be fine with me, if I could do this) and see what happens to your figure.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
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