I have new respect for viking...

[Dark Prince]

After I installed newest patch Version 1.1, I start the single campaign with The Dane at normal difficulty immdiately. Everything run as smoothly as post-patch,except there is rebellion everywhere. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif I thought the programmer fix this bug already,why in the god's name will peasants revolt in province with 200% loyality,0% Zealot?I already set the tax to very low,I even put more than 900 troops in that province.They still want to revolt against me.I thought that maybe I slaughter too many rebels in the last battle,so they have grudge against the Danes.when I check the rebel army,my jaw dropped to the floor......6 unit of Hopiliars,5 unit of Archers,9 unit of Italian Infantrys.I only have 4 unit of royal knight,vikings and archers..what kind of peasants rebellion will consist of such unstoppable force???I think the battle become harder after I installed the patch. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif

[JoeBax]

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If you have over 100% loyalty and the people are the same religion of the ruler then you shouldnt have rebellions imo. The way I see it, anything over 100% loyalty is just to compensate for newly conquered territory and if the people follow a different religion than the ruler.

[Dark Prince]

The peasants follow the christianity religion,so is The Danes,however,the rebellion start year after I conquered that regions,so maybe that is the problem.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif

[Naagi]

I havent patched yet but i hear the rebellions are much stronger forces. Now as to why they rebelled, you got me there. Though there are some countries like portugal, livonia and such that have a high chance to rebel no matter what you do to them.


Naagi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Dark Prince]

After I use my run and hit tatics on unstoppable rebel army,I captured more than 500 enemy.Of course,I release all of them.So now they are being very loyal to me.Btw I have new respect for viking,because they kick Italin infantry's butt any day of the week. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[_Martyr_]

I am most likely wrong but what you are talking about sounds to me very much like you are playing a mod called rebel dawn, is this the case? if so every captured province will revolt much easier.

As I said i am most likely wrong.



Ps. ive seen more unstoppable force(s) in rebel armies, such as 5 chivialric knight units and halbardiers (sp) and then some archers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[Dark Prince]

No,I didn't play any mod after I install the new patch.btw Your rebel army contain Chivalry knight...scary. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[terryblack825]

Maybe its just me but anytime there was a rebellion in any province I controlled the rebel forces were pretty weak just a bunch of peasants and maybe a unit of spearmen or archers.

[Knight_Yellow]

Bring on the rebels is all i say i defeated a 2500 strong peasant army with 1 royal knight and 17 scottish highlanders, lets just say that they had the best vices and virtues and valour ive ever seen.

[JoeBax]

I read that if you let prisoners go instead of executing them that they can come back, like when your leader dies and an heir takes over. I think the computer keeps track of good generals and will give them good troops if they revolt. On the other hand if a province has no good generals left then they will only revolt with poorer quality troops. I have noticed a difference where in prussia I had a rebellion of 1000 troops of high quality where in moscovy the revolt was 300 troops of medium quality.

[SmokWawelski]

Gentlemen, if you refer back to the manual (little book that comes in the box, yet nobody uses it) the revolts and rebel armies are divided into at least 3 or 4 categories, with break down of the units available to each type. These rebel armies have different reasons to revolt, and have different troops therefore.

From the top of my head I remember the:
· Peasant army/rebellion
· Loyalist rebellion/army
· Bandits army (very rare from my experience)
· Religious rebellion/army
· Civil war type

[JoeBax]

Yeah the loyalist rebellion is what I was refering to. The manual suggests that it keeps track of nobles or generals and they can come back leading those armies and they are rather well equiped.

[A.Saturnus]

Yes, loyalist rebellions are nice, I got some Chiv Foot Knights that way.
I have seen quiet some bandits. The AI has often problems with them. Religion plays a role to trigger them, I think.

[Dark Prince]

I start to play new campaign on expert difficulty with Egytion last night,I set one of my province's tax to very high,nevertheless,I didn't put any troops in that province,several years later,nobody revolt in that province.It is really strange... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Spetulhu]

Well, my Egyptian empire saw a very odd rebellion today. Malta, taken from the Sicilians some fifty years ago suddenly decided to go rebel? Loyalty 200%, a garrison with 440 men - and there`s a three stack peasant rebellion with a four-star general? This one actually consisted mostly of peasants, but there were some Murabitin and three Abyssinian Guard Lucky me that I had some reserve troops lying about in Constantinopel. 3 Saracens, 3 Archers, 4 Muwahid, 2 Pavise Arbalesters, 1 Crossbows and four Mamluk Cavalry were enough even with a lesser leader than the rebels. My two-star general lead the battle to victory, killing some 1,200 men and capturing almost 600.

[Dark Prince]

Quote[/b] (Spetulhu @ Dec. 18 2002,15:21)]Well, my Egyptian empire saw a very odd rebellion today. Malta, taken from the Sicilians some fifty years ago suddenly decided to go rebel? Loyalty 200%, a garrison with 440 men - and there`s a three stack peasant rebellion with a four-star general? This one actually consisted mostly of peasants, but there were some Murabitin and three Abyssinian Guard Lucky me that I had some reserve troops lying about in Constantinopel. 3 Saracens, 3 Archers, 4 Muwahid, 2 Pavise Arbalesters, 1 Crossbows and four Mamluk Cavalry were enough even with a lesser leader than the rebels. My two-star general lead the battle to victory, killing some 1,200 men and capturing almost 600.
Did you install the new patch?maybe that is the problem,however,I am not so sure. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Balrog]

It may not apply in some of the cases mentioned here but.. Some provinces are naturally independant. In games terms I would guess that means they reject foreign rule more often. (Scotland, Ireland and Portugal off the top of my head.)

[Spetulhu]

Quote[/b] (Dark Prince @ Dec. 18 2002,22:25)]Did you install the new patch?maybe that is the problem,however,I am not so sure. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Patched game, campaign started after i patched it. Who knows and who cares? It was actually quite funny http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[gabrielvilleda]

Whenever I think of Vikings for some reason Gimli the dwarf pops into mind.

However I would advise you to try the new patch out. It's decent and fixes some problems.