Most bugged game ever.

[Knight_Yellow]

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i only realised how dissapointing the stabbility of mtw is today. actualy it was when i was arguing with my cousin who thinks xbox is way better than anything so i quikly pointed out that the pc has the best controlls for every game ie. mouse keyboard wheel pedals joystick etc. whereass the xbox might have these but not anywhere near the standards of the pc ones. also that u dont get rts's on consoles and even in the small tiny chance u do, there all crap.
But then for the first time in my life i was lost for words he said At least console games dont need patches and hang the thing and u dont have to go to all manners of annoyance to get sumthing u paid good money for to work.

now i dont want to say this but hes right i know that pc's vary greatly so companies have to make them run with more hardware but the ammount of glitches in mtw is criminal i never once got a bug in shogun but with this it
1. fails to logon in mp 1 in every 3 trys
2. hangs my comp 1 in every 6 trys of a game
3. takes up way too many recourses i can easily play mafia with everything i usualy run (ie. kazza media player etc.) without any slowdowns but im lucky if this thing doesnt lag even when its the only thing runnin.

oh and by the way my comp is a geforce 2 2ghz athlon 60 gig harddrive 256 ddr fast memory and a chaintech motherboard witch is a bloody good comp. so it aint my hardware and ive talked with other ppl on the net and in real life about it and we all agree Medieval total war is the most bugged game any1 of us has ever played.
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wat does every1 think?

[ToranagaSama]

Want to know what's more buggy than MTW?

The Entrance Hall

Your every post indicates that the Entrance Hall never went through Q&A http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

well i post in the entrance hall so that any1 who sees this can reply to it, if wat ur saying is that this should be in a q&a topic.
if that aint wat ur saying sorry but im about as intelligent as a dumbass inbred yokel after 6 rounds of whisky 40%vol when it cums to how things work.

Ps. im not a dumbass inbred yokel im a
dumbass scottsman after six rounds of cider 6%vol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[chilliwilli]

Try Hearts of Iron and then tell me if MTW is bugged. I think you will say no.

[Gregoshi]

Not again. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Console will always have the advantage because:

1) standard hardware and software
2) games aren't as complex

#2 is changing as the console systems get better. However, you do have bugs in console games. My son has a Playstation (one) sports game that we've never finish a game because if locks up. Gran Turismo 2 for the PS also had quite a few bugs - lose all your cars if you do the wrong thing in the engine shop, can't unlock certain cars, can't reach 100% complete on the game, etc. When with most console games you are running around, jumping and punching and collecting shiny coins, it is much easier to have bug free software. Compare that to a game with several thousand men on screen, each with their own AI, and you are in a completely new realm of programming.

[Alrowan]

well let me just give you this little tid bit of info

the game is not that buggy

the operationg system is

that is why people are experienceing differences with thier games and the ammount of bugs. As for mt the only bug i have now is the rare hangup... all i have to do is find out what in my windows is causing this, and sort that out.

[Swoosh So]

Nonsence Bugged? hehe u never played daggerfall 1 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

well blaming it on the operating system is noncence. shogun never had any problems with windows as i recall and no other game ive got takes as many recourses for wat it needs to do even battlefield 1942 setting ai intelligence to 50% of my processor speed. ok admittadly there are a few humdingers of a game out there so maybe this aint the most bugged but its the only one of my games that hangs or screws sumthing up so regulary.

[Stormer]

lol knight yellow maybe its your cpu because it aint buggy with me im not sure about anyone else....

[Knight_Yellow]

well ive had 5 diff processors running this thing since i got medieval. first was a crappy 800mhz athlon on my dads comp then a 1000mhz athlon on his comp and when i got a network for the cable modem i used my 1400mhz athlon then got a 2000mhz but it overheat so i got another 2000mhz athlon witch seems to work fine but thats 4 different spec processors that have all had sum sort of problem with this game.

[rasoforos]

well i dont think you a re correct here. Firstly you say that console games do not need patches. big mistake...they just cannot have patches , if its buggy it stays buggy. the best example is morrowind , a very complex game that all hell can break loose bacause of its non-linerarity. this game comes identical on xbox and pc and the communities post on the same forums etc. well they ( xbox) have more problems than we do cause if we mess something up we can just mod it , and we can use patches , addons, etc. They start all over again from the beggining... moreover as it was said 90% of their games are really simple non-linear games.
And no i do not believe MTW is that buggy , yes i encountered bugs but they didnt destroy my playing enjoyment. and its a game i am gonna be playing for a long time , and most of us here will do as well. so i believe you are unfair towards the game.

[Knight_Yellow]

im not unfair towards it its my fav game but im simply stating that for me its the most bugged game ive ever played, im a mtw fanatic i play mp all the time and have heard many a discussion of technical issues both in the mp chat and here in the org.
thats all i aint going out and saying its crap i think its vry good but imajin how great it would be to have no bugs.

[Swoosh So]

Ive had no problem with it yet but i understand your frustration http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[TheViking]

Even if some of you say: if you think MTW is buggy you havnt played this or that and so on. That doesnt matter, MTW was and still is a very buggy game after the patch. Not many come here with their complaints cus i think most of those who had probs with this game left. Its only us TW fundamentalist that cope with the bugs.

Im very happy for all of you who never experienced the bugs. Maybe its us who got a crappy copy of the game. As knight yellow ive tried my game on many pc´s with different os and specs, but all the times it was still very buggy.

i couldnt play online untill i started to use the directx9 beta, and also now i can play SP without all those bugs.

Knight yellow: my advice for you is to start use DX9 beta, I downloaded it from www.megagames.com (http://www.megagames.com), but its a beta and dont work all the time but i think its still better then before even with other games

[SmokWawelski]

Yes, there are far more bugs that hang my system to call this game perfect. However, I will live with this as the game, when it runs, is much better than most other bugg-free software, and I am willing to put up with it.

KYellow: you should see THE THING, which requires patch out of the box to get THE SOUND RUNNING And then the official web site tells you to update all you can http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
The fact that I am running it on Win2K SERVER might be a clue here though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

well, funnily enough ive got the thing but its a beta version witch funnily enough doesnt have any bugs.

[FesterShinetop]

MTW Buggy? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif No Way, try Morrowind... after playing Morrowind for a while I started playing MTW again because I know I have NO problems with it. And my system is a lot less than yours http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif Time for a new computer... (For me that is&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

i guess mentioning that im gonna upgrade my comp again tommorrow wont make u any happier then. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

MTW is my no1 game of all time i reckon i spend about 3-4 hours a night on mp.

but heres wat i would give it with and without the bugs

With | Without
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92% | 98%
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it would get 100% if i could go the damned scottish in mp and sp as a proper faction
i mean the danes get a faction wat the bloody hell did the danes ever do???
dont say vikings cos there raiders not soldiers.

[ulyanov]

Quote[/b] (chilliwilli @ Dec. 26 2002,16:03)]Try Hearts of Iron and then tell me if MTW is bugged. I think you will say no.
ROTFLMAO

HOI Quality controller 1: Does it fit in the box?

HOI Quality controller 2: Yes, just

HOI Quality controller 1: OK, does it have a name?

HOI Quality controller 2: Yep

HOI Quality controller 1: Have we hyped the hell out of it?

HOI Marketing Manager: Absolutely

HOI Quality controller 1: Then we ship it tomorrow

HOI Marketing Manager: Oh, I ordered it to ship a month ago

It's one game full of bugs.

Total bugs I've noticed in M:TW - 3

One Port out of place (Graphic in the wrong sea lane). One Single CTD in 5 campaigns. Some slowdown/noise errors after playing for *many* hours continuously.

[ToranagaSama]

Gentlemen,

Would you all not agree, in terms of System Performance, that MTW is one of the, if not the most, demanding game to date? The simultaneous GPU and CPU demands must be huge. In effect, with MTW, there are TWO distinct games functioning almost simultaneously. The fact that CA has managed to make it run on most or your low level machines is a testament to genius

What the non-PC literate must be aware is that systems which are not taxed to preform at a high level, may have existing hardware/OS problems that do not exhibit themselves until the system is pushed very hard. MTW does exactly that, requiring all parts of a system to function at a HIGH level.

Think about it, when do most of your issues pop up? Try an experiement. Start and play MTW for an extended time, but do not fight any battles. Auto-resovle everything. Aside from a driver issue, ala ATI Radeon, I'll bet you'll suffer fewer, if any, issues.

Most of your issues, I'd wager, are due to one or all of the following: Poor Quality Memory, Overheated GPU and/or CPU, Disk Fragmentation. Generally, poor system maintenance and poor system design. Think that $10 memory you purchased at Discount Computer Parts was a bargain; or that nice jazzy looking case is cool; or is Thermal Paste a mystery, something used to keep warm in the artic?

Also, despite what CA reccommends, DO NOT allow Windows to manage your Virtual Memory/Swap File Create a separate (static) partition to handle swapping. The combination of a fragmented disk and Windows' swap file management is a killer I suggest a minimum of 500 megs for a swap file. I use twice that much space.

Bottom line, if your not PC literate and maintain your PC properly, then it would be better to stop critizing the software and claiming bugs. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[MP/GameSpy issues excepted.]

[rasoforos]

well i believe that we reached a conclusion here :
1) MTW IS BUGGY
2) there are buggier games ( morrowind) ,but this doesnt make them less great
3)MTW IS GREAT
4) CA will have to give us a lot of persuasion that they will be making games less buggy and that they will be releasing patches MUCH more often to correct problems IF they hope to sell great in the next TW game.

do we all agree in thaT?

[Jampe]

Quote[/b] (rasoforos @ Dec. 28 2002,10:24)]well i believe that we reached a conclusion here :
1) MTW IS BUGGY
2) there are buggier games ( morrowind) ,but this doesnt make them less great
3)MTW IS GREAT
4) CA will have to give us a lot of persuasion that they will be making games less buggy and that they will be releasing patches MUCH more often to correct problems IF they hope to sell great in the next TW game.

do we all agree in thaT?
Woah there, rasoforos- you do realise that if a consensus was EVER formed on an online forum that the universe would implode?

I'm sure that most of us don't want that, do we?


Yup.
Of course.
Well...duh
But isn't that a consensus then?

Oh cr...*implosion noise (rather like an old Mac powering down http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif )*

[ulyanov]

Quote[/b] (rasoforos @ Dec. 28 2002,03:24)]well i believe that we reached a conclusion here :
1) MTW IS BUGGY
2) there are buggier games ( morrowind) ,but this doesnt make them less great
3)MTW IS GREAT
4) CA will have to give us a lot of persuasion that they will be making games less buggy and that they will be releasing patches MUCH more often to correct problems IF they hope to sell great in the next TW game.

do we all agree in thaT?
/me stops the universe imploding by ensuring dissention in the ranks.

I disagree completely that MTW is buggy.

I've had one CTD. ONE. Who says that's not a system error?

I Get noise after several hours play. I suspect that's a driver issue. It only happens in MTW, that's why I listed it.


I have to agree wholeheartedly with ToranagaSama It's more likely your boxes than bugged code. I'm not saying there's not errors or omissions in the game, I just don't see any gaemslayer bugs in it.

I've been playing Talonsoft's (Actually Gary Grigsby's) Twelve Oclock High - Bombing the Reich for 3 and more years now, and that started out as a horribly buggy game, but has been improved greatly by hard work, and quite frankly better PC quality. If we were still running the PII 300's we had then it'd be garbage.

When we get out Athlon 9Ghz chips then MTW will really crank. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif