Interactive Game of Medieval

[Grothgar]

Having been a big fan of Europa Universalis, EU2 and Hearts of Iron (all paradox games) i was a big lurker around the forums and one of the most regular sub forums i visited was the After Action Report (AAR) forums. For those that dont know, this is where people played their games and then wrote down what happened in a varying amoutn of styles.

One of my favourite parts was the interactive AAR's where the other members of the forum would become characters in the game, and make decisions according to who/what they were and it seems to me that this can be easily transferred to the Medieval World. I mean its turn based, the battles are easily saved for people to view, so im going to give it a try.

First of all i will attempt to plan out how i will do this.

First of all, i need a country to play, i will be playing on normal, because i like it, the computer doesnt make overly aggressive moves which leaves them open to counter attack. So country suggestions please.

After the country is chosen i will look, and see what starting troops i have and who to promote to governer etc. Now this is where you come in. I will tell you the names, and what province they govern, and then in a first come first served basis, you choose, and then what you want to build and what troops you want to train, is up to you. It will be like it was, i will be the king and rule the power, but i wont have any without the support of my feudal lords. Im hoping for all kinds of grudges and espionage.

Of course this will limit the starting people, although once more provinces are captured i will need more people, also i will be all the heirs. So if you want to build up a tavern and then assassinate another player/character, then fine, thats your perogitive.

The special ranks, like chancellor will be given, and it will be the chancellors job to promote funds etc. Also if anyone wants to play a character, like an assassin etc, it will add a bit of spice http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I will post an update every year/turn, with money available, and when im posting who i promoted, ill post the piety, loyalty etc, and i would like to think they would be guidlines for how the character would be played.

Its ambitious, and it could sink easily, and youll need to be dedicated, but i am to this, so join if you want http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Thanks for your time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Gregoshi]

Interesting idea.

If I understand this correctly, we will be helping you play your SP campaign. As the game unfolds and you present the status report, each of us in our role declares appropriate actions to be taken in our area of control. Do I have that essentially correct? Set me straight if I'm not understanding the rules correctly.

[Grothgar]

Yes, that would be right, whoever is governer in the province gets to decide what buildings are built, and what units are built. Of course, I, as your king could nudge you along in the right direction, I need loads of spearmen to conquer france for example.

It would also act like a cabinet in todays world i would assume, with proposals being meeted out, and then people discussing it, and then a decision being taken.

SO yeah thats it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[Alrowan]

sounds quite interesting.. im sure if we got enough people involved it would be great

[Lord Romulous]

it does sound like a fun idea.

does each governer get a budget ?
based on his provences income ?
or yearly income of entire faction divided by how many provences in the faction. (this would be the fairest)

does the faction leader give Florin bonuses to those who help him contribute troops to foreign wars.

it could play like this. you as faction leader can direct the governers to contribute out of their budgets to build import empire building facilites in key provences eg merchants guild in antioch. of course other governers wont like giving money to another governers provence and could a. seek to remove you the faction leader
b. invade antioch and take it for themselves.

i see lots of intrigue as governers try to deal with the dilemas of doing what is good for the realm (and ultimatly their faction survival) and what is good for their own power and provence wealth. ie i could invade that nice fat provence next to mine but the internal divisons of other governers becoming involved perhaps leading to civil war might leave the whole faction vunrable to a foreign power.

it is kinda like a online mp campaign. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Grothgar]

Hmm a lot of interesting questions, which by the way is good because it helps cement my own thoughts, this is a new idea really, and some things will be added on the fly, so to speak. Anyway to answer your questions.

In regards to how much florins each governer will recive, there is a office called chancellor, you know what it is, the one when you build a royal palace. The person who gets this, and hence will be a governor as well will be responsible for the funds.

As the king and his heirs of course i will be able to overule and spread funds out, but i see it as going like this.

The governers of each province submit what they want to build in their province and how much it will cost. The chancellor takes this under advisement, compares it to the florins per turn, and how much we have and then says yes or no.

So obviously whoever gets the chancellors spot will have quite a bit of power, and likely their province will not want for anything. Because if your the chancellor and the governer your going to make sure your province has enough money lol.

I, as the king, will of course have the final say, if i want something to be built in a province then it superceeds anything else and overrules any other decisions.

So they dont get a budget per sey, they are able to dip into the entire fund, at the bequest of the chancellor or you could appeal to me, if it gets turned down.


And yes i might be better inclined to give money for buildings to governers who support my reign and who commit troops when i ask them too. As the king i will be able to ask you to build a unit in your province for prosecuting a war or for defense. This obviously costs money, and if the chancellor has allowed you to build a merchant, say, and nothing else then you might not be able to build a unit.

As you can see its a bit complicated, but im seeing if i can water it down. And also the idea of just sharing out the surplus sounds great, although then the chancellors office would be useless.


And yes i see it as you described. As you will be leading your forces into battle you could refuse to fight. So if the governer next to you was invading, say, il de france and he asked for your troops you could say no, and let his troops get slaughtered, maybe, of course this wouldnt be good for faction loyalty but it would promote the other governers power. I mean who do you pick for the next important assignment, they guy who just got half your army massacred, or the governor with a full standing army under his own power.

So yes im still thinking things up on my own, so questions help cement my thinking, and the florins per province/governer thing is still up in the air as far as i see it.


Oh one more thing, i wont be stripping titles off people using emissaries unless you die in battle, or maybe are assasinated, in which case you can take over another province etc. If your guy dies then you can take over the next governer. Of course if you drive the realm into bankruptcy or do not respond to a call of arms, then maybe i will strip your title http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Gregoshi]

How exactly will we be leading our forces into battle? Does this simply mean we decide if we and the unit we lead will join an attack? Then you fight it out or auto-resolve?

[Grothgar]

Yes, if i signal my means to attack say france with england, and your province is gaining a lot of trade income from the province i want to attack, you could just say no and i wouldnt use your units in a battle. Of course if you happened to get attacked during the turn i would defend and fight the battle with you.

[Gregoshi]

Tell you what, I'm going to put a post about this in the Main Hall with a link back to this post. Let's see if we can drum up some more business.

BTW, since we have no special forum for running such a game, I'm inquiring if it is acceptable to run your game from our forums. I don't know how much forum activity such a game generates, but I'm a little concerned about cluttering the forums here with many posts regarding the game and burying everything else. A little clarification would help Grothgar and maybe a link to an example of this type of game. Thanks.

[Alrowan]

i actually like the idea of you saying no if we want to do sometihng.. afterall you will be playing the monarch, so your word is law.

cant wait to see this start

[Grothgar]

Well what ill do, is keep this thread which is where people can ask questions etc and frankly so i can think about them myself, as ive said, problem will probably come up during the game and ill have to improvise.

And then when the rules are almost finallised ill open another thread, which is to have only game related posts in, ie Role Playing, decision making etc.
This means we can cut down on the threads, to only 2, maybe make the help thread a sticky so people know where to look and dont have the temptation to make other threads.

As for the link, here goes: this is an Interactive AAR by a perosn called Warspite, its the very first of its kind that i know of.

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum....d=11631 (http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11631) this thread describes what the AAR and gives a summary.

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum....id=9162 (http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9162) and this thread if the actual AAR with the RPG elements. It had over 4000 posts by completion.

And thanx for canvassing for me lol
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[Naagi]

Well I'd be up for this though not sure how soon we'd need to post in. I'm usually on a lot during the day, though this may change if I switch jobs, but I can still post from home. Let us know what we need to do.

Naagi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Grothgar]

Well at the moment this is still in the preliminary stages, as you may be able to tell lol. I still have to figure out how the money is going to work, but thats the biggest thing the rest is mostly sorted.

And of course, as you may have read, this still needs to be ok'ed by Gregoshi, or maybe even the people above Gregoshi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif lol

And what im looking at is, maybe two turns per day, thats one thing, it will be quite slow going, especially at the beggining, when theres not many wars, and not much money to go around. But apart from that it should be great, plus it will get better after a few wars are started http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Hosakawa Tito]

I'll be a governor, can I get an advance on my budget please http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif small denomination bills preferably, baby needs a new pair of shoes. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Sounds interesting and fun. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Grothgar]

For that cowardly and absolutely lame attempt at crawling to your superiors i hereby dock you 1 months florins lol. Now dont ban me please http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Well you do seem to be the first person to say they will be in this. But i still need a faction to be lol. I would want to play one which suits almost everyone. Although just saying now, i dont want to play either the Germans of the Byzantines, they just piss me lol. Plus i like invading them. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

For the governers choosing, after i have been through the generals i have and promoted those with the highest acumen, like you do, i'll list them here with all their stats, and who they are governor of, and then its a first come fist served basis.

Note if mods want to apply id be delighted, why, because it means your online a lot lol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[Gregoshi]

I suppose you can count me in Grothgar. As you point out, I am here a few times a day.

UPDATE: we can proceed with the game. We'll just keep an eye on how things progress.

Which brings me to my next point.


To all who wish to participate: Please remember that this is a game. Let's keep the game atmosphere fun and interesting. Some decisions will go your way, others won't. Some of us will have good luck and others may have bad luck. Good fortune or ill fortune, we expect everyone to show good sportsmanship and a positive attitude so that all participants will have a good time. I don't expect much trouble as we are all on the same side (until we kill the king at least http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif ) but we will be competing for florin and glory. But the bottom line is fun.

[Marco]

Sounds like fun to me. I remember reading the warspite one on eu2 last year (i think) and thinking i want to join. By the time I read the thread to find out what was going on (over 15 pages) they had stopped the game or warspite had retired or something.

[Grothgar]

Well if we are proceeding, then that brings me onto my next point. Which country lol. After all i wouldnt want to be the english if some of you always be france so they can destroy england http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif (although god knows why youd want to)

So, and considering i dont want to be the Germans or the Byzantines, whats your choice? Oh and of course we will be starting in the Early Period.

Heres my thoughts:

Arab Factions:

While these can be fun to play, the fact that they are missing out on princesses and royal marriges and of course inquisitors means that quite a wide part of the game has been wiped out immediately. And especially with interactive governers, i think the chance to petition your king for marriage would bring that extra element to the game. (im looking at you Gregoshi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

However if these are chosen then my order of preference would be, Turks, Almohads, Egyptions


Christian Factions:

All that i said about the Arab Factions is obviously invalid. Although you do have to worry about the Pope, but thats part and parcel of the game. I dont really have a favourite catholic faction. Although because im english i dont exactly have a soft spot for the french http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

But it is down to you, i would think spain could be intresting. Although you only start off with 2 provinces, Spain as a whole is rich, also early war oppurtunities against a muslim faction.

But as ive said before its down to you to choose. Also could you note down wether you'll participate or not, of course there may not be enough governerships to go around in the first place, but keep coming, im sure we will conquer more lands soon. Its on Normal Difficulty as well.

I think ive exhausted myself really, ill be at work from now until i say im not, but if you ask questions ill be sure to answer them for you.

Also i think now that i said my distaste for france, guess who they are going to pic http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

And another thing, im a Senior Patron *Does the dance of Joy*

[Swoosh So]

Great we could launch an org sponsored crusade http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Gregoshi]

Since the only SP campaign I've played (and am still playing) is as the HRE, I'm not qualified to make any advise that is based on experience. It seems to me that each of the Christian factions has drawbacks.

The Muslim factions, although missing part of the strategic elements of the game, may be the way to for simplicity's sake in this first game.

Anyway, I say this: I go where my king leads me.

[King Edward]

The Polish are good as there are a lot of Rebel provences to take early on, aw well as a possible very profitable war with the byzantines, and a chance to defend a mongol invasion

[RunAway!!]

This seems really interesting.

The two factions I've enjoyed playing the most have been the English and the Turks.

The English because I kinda like arrowfire, so having half my army made up of longbowmen works well for me.

The Turks because its a pretty challenging campaign if you start in the early period; because they don't really get anything all that powerful until the High or Late periods. You also have to start out with a major war against either Byza or Egypt; and eventually you'll get invaded by the Golden Horde.

I wouldn't mind being a Governor...but do we have to tell you if we're secretly training assassins to depose the feeble old ruler? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Grothgar]

After taking into account comments about how its better to start of simple etc from Gregoshi i have decided to give the turks a try for this campaign. I mean yes its in a toughish spot at the beginning but hey with my great playing ability, and your sage council, this will be an amazing game.

Nice bit of fence sitting Gregoshi, i go where my king wills, whata load of crap lol. Also since we are the turks its Sultan now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Hmm nice point RunAway The way ill have to run assasinations is that you will have to tell me about them, like if you wanted to assasinate Gregoshi (or the character hes playing anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) But yes if the ruler has low piety or low influence etc then you will have to tell me that you want to kill me, you never know i might agree. And i will plant an assasin on my character ASAP, although you might want to train them up first. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Also in regard to money meeted out to governors. You submit what you want to build in that province, and ill build it, however if money is tight i keep the power of veto, i mean i am the king http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Oh and if you dont put in what you want to be built, then the king decides.

Right the governors should be up along with their stats, first come first serve, and then tommorow ill start a new thread which will be strictly roleplaying/situation reports. Any queries, complaints or anything, will be in this thread. The governors will be up later tonight.

Thank you for the support http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Tyrac]

I know you do not want to but...
H.R.E. would fit the model best. Historically they had the least central authority of the factions. Each province actually WAS basically an independant realm with its own noble ruler. There was alot of infighting and competition between the German Princes etc. The Emperor was elected by the powerful nobles.
Also they have alot of starting provences and many options so you could have more governors.

I think that income should be based on your own province also. This would force teamwork rather then basically have a chancellor who would really be the one doing all the playing with suggestions from the governor. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Or perhaps a % goes to the king and a % you do what you like with? Or some such thing that give provinces more self control. Remember, the kings and central governments of these times were weak and FAR away.

[Grothgar]

See i love it when someone comes up with a suggestion i hadn't really considered until then. Yes thinking about it after your post Tyrac, basing it on the province income would promote teamwork, and would also promote grudges if you asked for a loan from another governor and he refused.

So yes, you are able to spend 2 times your province income on improvements and troops, if you want any more they need to be approved by me. This will of course give more power to those controlling richer provinces, but honestly, thats what happens in real life.

Right heres the names and stats of the governors. First come first serve, and if im not mistaken, im thinking maybe the first name i put down will be the first choice. Here goes.


Name: Amir Sabbah
Titles: Amir of Rum, Chief Eunuch
Player: Tyrac

Loyalty: 8
Piety: 6
Dread: 3
Command: 5
Acumen: 7

Skills: Skilled Attacker

Unit: 40 Bedouin Camel Warriors


Name: Amir Khan
Title: Amir of Armenia
Player: Gregoshi

Loyalty: 8
Piety: 0
Dread: 1
Command: 0
Acumen: 4

Unit: 40 Horse Archers


Name: Amir al Mu'tasim
Title: Amir of Edessa
Player: King Edward

Loyalty: 4
Piety: 0
Dread: 1
Command: 0
Acumen: 4

Unit: 40 Horse Archers


Name: Amir al Muntasir
Title: Amir of Syria
Player: RunAway

Loyalty: 3
Piety: 4
Dread: 0
Command: 0
Acumen: 4

Unit: 100 Spearmen


As you may have seen some of my Amirs arnt the most loyal but i think that will spice it up, because i would very much like to see the people who take on the roles, roleplaying the characters, so people who like to kill leaders, shouldnt take the best guy at the top, because that wouldnt play him very well.

And also your titles wont be stripped, the only way is if you wil die, and then i will give you a few lists of candidates to see who you want to be.

Anyone who wishes to indulge in assasinations or just drop me a line to ask questions, my email is Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com

Let the bidding begin http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[RunAway!!]

OOh OOh I want to be the Chief Eunuch http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Or wait, maybe not, considering what comes along with being a Eunuch...I will take Amir al Muntasir instead I think. I take it you'll be giving us the information as to how much the provinces are producing, tax rate, loyalty, etc?

[Gregoshi]

Amir Kahn, Amir of Armenia

It fits me: command=0, 'cuz I suck as a commander, loyalty=8 because my loyalty is 8 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif and horse archers all the better to flee the battlefield safely (see command rating).

[Grothgar]

Ahh excellent, 2 people signed up. Now regarding the Province Production, Loyalty, Tax Rate, Trade Goods etc. I'll be posting these details on my first post in the game thread, which will of course start up as soon as all the posts are taken. You of course will be able to set your own Tax Rate, it is your province of course.

And of course there will be yearly updates, So im hoping that 2 other people will sign up today while im at work so i can put the first game thread up, and people can decide what to build etc. I will also inform you of any plans that i may have, and then you can go ahead with it or not participate.

Also good thing i have an Edit Button now, ill just go change my previous thread so people know what characters are taken.

[King Edward]

Im interested in playing, but whats the time scale for each yr?? as there may be the odd day i cant get on the net.

[Grothgar]

Im looking to play 2 years per day. One in the morning, (GMT time) and one at night, maybe 2 so 2-3 years, i have to do it at that speed to give people the time to respond, but also to keep the game moving at a reasonable pace.

If you cant make it for the time then i will just choose what you will build, and as i choose, there will be no veto from me lol. But if you cant make it then just post here saying you cant and we will find a replacement for you, for the days when you cant be online.

[King Edward]

ok. there is no problems during the week, just sometimes at weekends. if you don't mind I'll be Amir al Mu'tasim

[Grothgar]

Yep you can have that, i notice that because i said the first guy would be chosen, you guys have made sure hes the last to be picked lol. I think its because you dont want to be chief Eunuch lol. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[King Edward]

Cheers

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All Hail King Edward of edessa never been turks yet so going to go home and learn the units Saracen Infantry seem to decimate my Kataphraktoi

PS Cheers for the quick promotion Gregoshi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Trajan]

Sounds like a good idea. I'd like to volunteer as a governor, once your territories have expanded further.

[Xicote]

Sound idea Grothgar

If ever you expand to sea, put me in as your trusted Captain I'll push those Byzantines back for you Your trade will be in safe hands. Cheers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Grothgar]

Well youll be becoming a governor pretty soon then, and it will either be Egyptian Real Estate or Byzantine Terrain, because no easy battles with the turks at the beggining.

Espcially if my governors hold me back http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Come on people, are you all responsibility challenged, i mean the main guy, the one who has the richest province and with the best stats is available, and no-one will pick him lol. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Xicote]

Lol. Well I could never take up such a responsibility What about heirs? Are they gonna be left alone, or playable?

[Grothgar]

Heirs are going to be controlled by me, in fact anyone of the Kings/Sultans family will be controlled by me, although what with the muslims having no princesses, i wont have to worry about that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

But yes, even though it may be a bit ahistorical that i can exert an inhuman amount of control over my heirs hey its a computer game, live with it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Grothgar]

Ok, we still need a Amir Sabbah to control Rum, but im going to post everything i have, this will also go into the first post of the game for reference http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

PROVINCES:


Province Name: Rum
Governor: Amir Sabbah
Player: Tyrac

Income: 583
Expenses allowed: 1166
Resources: None
Trade Goods: None

Taxation: Normal
Loyalty: 200%
Base Loyalty: 157%
Zeal: 23%

Religions: 1% Jewish, 2% Catholic, 2% Orthodox, 95% Islam

Buildings in Province: Fort, Spearmaker, Town Watch, Royal Palace, 20% Farmland, Horse Farmer, Mosque

Buildings which can be built:
Name of Building Time to be built Cost of Building
Fort and Motte 1 year 100 Florins
Watchtower 1 year 100 Florins
Bowyer 2 years 200 Florins
Inn 2 years 400 Florins
Ribat 4 years 300 Florins
Horse Breeder 4 years 400 Florins
40% Farmland 4 years 1000 Florins
Keep 8 years 1000 Florins

Units buildable in Rum:
Name of Unit Time to be trained Cost of Training
Horse Archers 1 year 250 Florins
Urban Militia 1 year 100 Florins
Peasants 1 year 50 Florins
Spearmen 1 year 150 Florins
Emissary 1 year 100 Florins
Alim 1 year 100 Florins


Province Name: Armenia
Governor: Amir Khan
Player: Gregoshi

Income: 302
Expenses allowed: 604
Resources: None
Trade Goods: Silk, Spices, Gems

Taxation: Normal
Loyalty: 164%
Base Loyalty: 114%
Zeal: 29%

Religions: 3% Catholic, 3% Orthodox, 94% Islam

Buildings in Province: None

Buildings which can be built:

Name of Building Time to be built Cost of Building
Watchtower 1 year 100 Florins
20% Farmland 2 years 600 Florins
Inn 2 years 400 Florins
Fort 4 years 400 Florins




Province Name: Edessa
Governor: Amir al Mu’tasim
Player: King Edward

Income: 309
Expenses allowed: 618
Resources: None
Trade Goods: Silk, Spices, Gems

Taxation: Normal
Loyalty: 136%
Base Loyalty: 106%
Zeal: 26%

Religions: 1% Catholic, 1% Orthodox, 98% Islam

Buildings in Province: None

Buildings which can be built:

Name of Building Time to be built Cost of Building
Watchtower 1 year 100 Florins
20% Farmland 2 years 600 Florins
Inn 2 years 400 Florins
Fort 4 years 400 Florins


Province Name: Syria
Governor: Amir al Muntasir
Player: RunAway

Income: 304
Expenses allowed: 608
Resources: None
Trade Goods: Gems

Taxation: Normal
Loyalty: 145%
Base Loyalty: 112%
Zeal: 24%

Religions: 3% Catholic, 3% Orthodox, 94% Islam

Buildings in Province: None

Buildings which can be built:

Name of Building Time to be built Cost of Building
Watchtower 1 year 100 Florins
20% Farmland 2 years 600 Florins
Inn 2 years 400 Florins
Fort 4 years 400 Florins


ARMIES:

Army Leader Unit Type Number of Unit Total Army Size
Amir al Mu’tasim Horse Archers 40 340
Spearmen 200
Peasants 100

Amir Sabbah Bedouin Camels 80 200
Desert Archers 120

Amir al Muntasic Horse Archers 80 180
Spearmen 100

Sultan Suleyman I Ghulam Bodyguards 21 301
Amir Khan Horse Archers 80
Spearmen 100
Peasants 100


ROYALTY:

Name: Title Age Special Attributes:
Suleyman I Sultan 53 Well Educated (+1 Acumen and Command)
Suleyman Prince 13
Ayback Prince 11
Osman Prince 8


DIPLOMACY:

Unit Type Valour
Emissary 0

[Marco]

I like to enlist for a post further down the line, maybe 2 or 3 turns time. I like to see how things pan out first and the level of involvement involved.

Would you be posting screenshots from time to time so we can see whats going on or will you be describing it?

[Gregoshi]

Most Gracious Excellency,
I do hereby petition your over-flowing coffers for a mere 400 florins with which to build a fort to protect the great province of Armenia. Incursions of foul banditry from the lawless mountains of Georgia have plagued your loyal citizens.

I also place my person and my fierce horse archers at your whim.

Your Most Loyal Servant,

Amir Kahn,
Amir of Armenia

[Grothgar]

Right, yes i will be posting screenshots every so often, and ill post replays of and relevant battles if anyone requests them. But whenever there is any significant change i will post a screenshot. And we still havent got the Chief Eunuch, but oh well, we will continue without him.

I'll be starting a new topic, this will be the thread where you can ask questions because i would like to keep the other thread clear of anything other than requests and roleplaying.

And Gregoshi, My Honourable Amir Khan, You dont need to petition me to build a fort for 400 Florins, your allowance is 604, as i posted http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif And Marco ill be glad to have you on board after a few turns. Stay tuned for the introduction later today.

[Tyrac]

I would like to play. Can I be put on a list to take a spot that opens?

-Edit
Just noticed that Rum was still open? ....I will take that unless you had it reserved for a friend or some such. Is a pretty big responsiblilty.

[Grothgar]

If you want Rum, then come and get it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Yes it is a big responsibility, you have the most money to play with, the most advanced buildings and the only province which can produce troops at the beggining. So Tyrac its yours.

Im just going to open up a new thread, The game officially starts here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Right, today, i wont be playing any turns, to give people the chnce to say what they want to build, if they want to train their troops, and to argue about who we are going to attack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Tyrac]

Ok I will do Rum. I like Rum as a drink also so I guess it is appropriate.
I will wait untill it is official...ie you list me on the actual game post as the gov before I list what I would like to buy /build. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I will check in an hour or so.
I did my first campaign as the Turks so am pretty familiar with them.

[Gregoshi]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif Oh, I miss understood allotment. It is my allowance. I'm so used to not having enough florin to build all I want I figured I had to grovel.

[Grothgar]

Your in Tyrac http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Ive listed you as the governor, its a lot of responsibility, but im sure your up to it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif And dont worry Gregoshi, i knew someone would mess up what expenses meant, so i would have had to explain anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Grothgar]

Just to put out a message for King Edward and RunAway You missed your first turn, but i think i built what you would have wanted http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Thank you

[kataphraktoi]

I've already posted in the other thread before reading this one so this is a bit anachronistic right now.

I would like to sign up for Turkish service anyway

I would like to be Byzantine turncoat with a unit of kataphraktoi but I think thats like impossible at the moment.

Preference to serve in Nicaea

So can I get in on this deal O great Sultan?

[Vasker]

Oh great and wondrous Sulton Grothgar

I, your hummble servant Vasker, would like to join you on this great adventure. If it would please your greatness I would like to be the Prince of Antioch or the Count of Tripoli. I will turn either province into the jewel of your great empire.

May Allah bless and guide you oh great and wondrous Sulton Grothgar

[Grothgar]

Vasker, your down as the first province i capture, which will most probably be Antioch lol, as its the nearest, if all goes to plan then you should be prince after the next turn. And Kataphraktoi, yes your down for your province of choice. Although it might be some time before i turn against the Byzantines.

So yes if you want to be a governor of a certain province then put your name down and youll be considered first http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Grothgar]

Welcome aboard Vasker. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Your now the Prince of Antioch. Hope you enjoy being part of my revolution http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Heres your character and the province he will be ruling.

Name: Amir al Ma'mum

Loyalty: 4
Piety: 1
Dread: 0
Command: 0
Acumen: 4


Province Name: Antioch
Governor: Amir al Mu'mun
Player: Vasker

Income: 413
Expenses allowed: 826
Resources: None
Trade Goods: Silk, Spices, Gems

Taxation: Low
Loyalty: 109%
Base Loyalty: 46%
Zeal: 28%

Religions: 6% Jewish, 6% Catholic, 6% Orthodox, 83% Islam

Buildings in Province: None

Buildings which can be built:

Name of Building Time to be built Cost of Building Watchtower 1 year 100 Florins
20% Farmland 2 years 600 Florins
Inn 2 years 400 Florins
Fort 4 years 400 Florins

[Aleborg]

Hey, as im sure u will continuos conquering the whole Medieval War Grothgar, i will like to join ur great Army if it is possible http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Anyhow, i was wondering...
How about make a periodic council with some kind of votation in order to take down the king and give to other prince the keys of the kingdom??? hehe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Well, is like the real life. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Thx m8, howl.

[Grothgar]

Aleborg, do you have any particular province you would like to govern? And as for the council, it doesnt really fit the time scale does it, the Sultan/King has absolute Power and only then the lord revolt did they ever get the king to change his mind, ie the Magna Carta.

However after i finnish this, which could take a while, admitedly, i was planning to do another one with England, but with the modern political system set down in the 1100's lol. But thats someway in the future http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

[Aleborg]

Well, i really dont have any kind of preference, just want to be involved in that funny idea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
And i also wanna say the council was only one idea m8, i hope u will not keep in mind and cut my head at the first opportunity, hehe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I will be the most loyal prince of ur kingdom (well, u never know... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif )

[kataphraktoi]

Quote[/b] ]And Kataphraktoi, yes your down for your province of choice. Although it might be some time before i turn against the Byzantines.


If thats the case Great Sultan then may I humbly request Constantinople as my provincial domain, since I am a native of that province I would be well equipped and well versed in running the city, if as the Sultan wishes that COnstantinople be under the aegis of the crescent I would be willing to become the chief Eunuch enhancing my acumenic abilities to bring more profit for your empire.
Until then I remain in the empire waiting for the day when your soldiers march through the walls of Constantinople.

Your servant Nicephorus Strategopoulis

[Gregoshi]

Hi Aleborg. Welcome and thanks for signing up with the Org. I'm glad to see you rolling up your sleeves and getting medieval with us Turks. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Grothgar]

Well Aleborg, i dont think you will be taking hold of a governorship for the next turn as it is a hold and consilidate turn, and to make sure the province doesnt rebel of course. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

However i can safely assure you that in the next few turns Palestine should become available for governorship if that intruiges you then let me know. Glad your interested, its people like you that is the lifeblood of this project, after all you can't have interactive if theirs no-one to interact with http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Aleborg]

Hey Gregoshi, thx m8, keep the good work http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


Dont worrie great Sultan. Im sure u are doing it for the best of our great target, extend Islam to the whole world and finish with all the unfaithful.
Just want u know im one of the most loyal servants u can find in this hard work (unitil i change face... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif.
As i said in the other forum i will wait patiently until u need my help (dont know how can i help the great Sultan).

Ur servant.

[Tempiic]

Well count me in http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

First I have to say that though i play turks and egyptians often, I do that online and have little to no experiences in general with single player campaigns at all.

I am not picky about any region to govern specifically though i have a very soft spot for camel warriors and mameluk horse archers. (yeah i know wrong faction http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif)

Since the initial value of every province is different, and in some case some provinces are complete worthless in revenues might it be an option to give/allow a governor with a very poor province a second close by province? Like Sinai and Arabia for example IIRC.

Hmmm as it is now, you have more players than controlled provinces... Any suggestions how to participate before you are granted a province?

Also I'd like to have some more details than already are given about battles which involved my future to be units, so I can perhaps write about the fight http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Grothgar]

How to participate before your granted a province? A good question. And heres the answer http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

If you would like to contribute when you are not yet a governor you could just write about things that have happened. I mean at the moment not much has happened but you could pretend to be a soldier in the army which has taken antioch and you could describe what the army did how it acted and everything. Frankly the only limit is your imagination.

You could roleplay the Byzantine Emperor himself talking with courtiers about the growing menace and then explain why you turned down the alliance. As i said anything you want to be lol. If i had a few assasins going round then you could be one of them, describing how you killed someone.

Or as there will probably be a battle you could pretend to be a soldier in the battle and give an eye witness statement. If you should wish to do this give me your email address and ill email the battle to you. Then you can explain it like that.

If you have a soft spot for Mamaluke Archers Tempiic then it could be you might be the next governor of egypt, if i get that far http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Same for you Alebord, youll probably be the next Ruler of Palestine so as there will probably be a fight, afterwards i will tell you what unit the leader is in and then you can see how he performed on the field of battle and make up a story like that.

I will say it once more, the only limit is your imagination http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Oh and as for small worthless provinces i was thinking that i would grant them to my heirs, ie im going to control them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Tempiic]

Oh... I would like egypt http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Of course before you manage to get it, I be more than happy to take temporarily control of any province (how poor it might be)in the meantime http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Or I may indeed come up with something else... Anyway I added you to my msn msg account, so you know my email account as well. I would really appreciate it if you'd keep my email addy to yourself alone.

Not sure how you'd be able to train mameluk horse archers while playing turks yourself no matter what provinces you may have under control http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Aleborg]

Ok Groth.
I think another nice thing could be to make some kind of timetable in order to all ppl know when they are supposed to make their decisition.
For exmaple turns od 2-3 days per season. First day u tell us the results of battles and invasions, next we take te decisitions and then u (of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif ) have the last word as our Sultan.
Ill keep online

[Grothgar]

The problem with a timetable is that it varies depending on how often i can play lol. Although i have done a new post on the actual game, it took ages, you lot betetr be appreciating the time im putting into this http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif lol.

But i am going to wait until probably tommorow night before posting again so it should allow you lot to post your wishes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Aleborg]

Yup, i see. U are right, and of course it takes u lot of works... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
So best way is trying to get online at least one time per day.
Of course when ppl cant u, as the Sultan (well, also when ppl can and take their decisition...) have the late word, even when it could not be the best... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Abdul, my son, we've been running this trading business with the Persians, curse their eyes, for three generations now. What have we got to show for our troubles? Pennies and callouses on our arses riding all over the Levant http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

My son, we'll be traders no more. I hear there is a new power in the East, one to shake the wind, restore our bewildered people to their pride, and rattle those indolent cat worshippers to the South. We'll saddle the camels with war saddles Get your scribe brother Umma to clean the ink off his hands and gather our contracts. Call the tribe together, we ride seek glory and riches in the morning

Now help me milk this ass, your mother's bath is waiting.

[Lord Romulous]

Quote[/b] ]Now help me milk this ass, your mother's bath is waiting

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

obviously a close family.

[Vasker]

Grothgar could put the game year in your turn reports please from time to time.

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Father, Father, come quickly, see At the oasis today, I traded the meat camels for silver

Nonsense, snorted Yusuf the Trader, no-one trades silver for camels such as those....lame, scofulus, geldings only good for meat
Abdul, you didn't lose them gambling ?, roared Yusuf.
No, Father. Mercenaries They are buying anything that can walk They find emploment in Syria

Yusuf considered this a moment.
Tis good they are infidels. I would not see a brother in the faith set to cross a desert on those....their chance of reaching Syria more slender than the nose rein of a camel.

We live in interesting times, Abdul. Quickly, now, how many goats do we have?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[Gregoshi]

Another request to go with Vasker's: would it be possible for you to provide the save games for us? Not necessary every year, but every 2-3 turns would help us see the situation clearer by loading it up on our copies of MTW. Thanks either way you decide - I'm enjoying this. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Fate, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif I'm dying to see where this story goes... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Grothgar]

Yes, i think i might set the save games up http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif so my Amirs could check on their provinces and other things http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif And as for the turn year, remember that the year i am reporting is the year which has just happened. Im posting from the next year.

And Fate Amenable to Change, thats the sort of roleplaying i mean, although from a bit of an odd angle http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

As you will soon see in my turn report i took Tripoli and so i require a governor for that province. First come first serve remember lol. Although for some reason i recall promising it to someone, Nagaii maybe, or Aleborg, but i cant remember. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Anyway here are the stats for the new Amir, Amir al Turkumani.


Name: Amir al Turkumani
Unit: 60 Desert Archers

Loyalty: 6
Piety: 1
Dread: 1
Command: 0
Acumen: 5


And now the province information. Also i should metnion that a port could be Built in Antioch, even though i didnt say so.


Province Name: Tripoli
Governor: Amir al Turkumani
Player:

Income: 495
Expenses allowed: 990
Resources: None
Trade Goods: Cotton, Sugar

Taxation: Normal
Loyalty: 126%
Base Loyalty: 46%
Zeal: 26%

Religions: 5% Jewish, 5% Catholic, 5% Orthodox, 85% Islam

Buildings in Province: None

Buildings which can be built:
Name of Building Time to be built Cost of Building
Watchtower 1 year 100 Florins
20% Farmland 2 years 600 Florins
Inn 2 years 400 Florins
Fort 4 years 400 Florins
Port 4 years 800 Florins

[Naagi]

I'd like to run Tripoli if no one objects. I do ok with sea ports, and have a decent understanding of trade.

Naagi http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Vasker]

Why is it when I post a message and I have a or ' it turns into a series of numbers ? I write my post in Word then cut and paste it in to the reply area. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[Grothgar]

I had the same problem Vasker, in fact even if you type the ' or here as part of a name the forum just does not seem to like it. So no i just ignore them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif just place a space if you want to be correct http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

And welcome aboard Naagi. The Count of Tripoli is now you http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Enjoy the game.

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Guys, I Saved to notepad 3/4 of the next 'letter' before giong out.
Any idea of how to call it up to complete and post?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Gregoshi]

Fate, you can get to your notepad by clicking on the Notes link in the upper left corner of the screen under the the picture and the Welcome Fate Amenable to Change text.

As for the funky characters, don't use Word to input your message. Or if you really want to use Word, maybe try a print preview and copy the text from the preview instead of the document itself. That should eliminate any odd characters imbedded in the document.

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Two old men watched each other warily over the fine porcelain rims of their tiny coffee cups.
In a cool quiet cafe well frequented by travellers, down a dusty, winding street - past the fabric awnings of Palmyra's merchants bazaar, away from the dung and noise of the camel market, Yusuf regarded his old trading partner and occasional adversary - Ahmed the Armenian.

How's business?, Yusuf grunted.
Fine, fine...yourself?, enquired Ahmed.
Oh fine, fine......good actually , mused Yusuf (normally poker faced, Yusuf's recent good fortune in selling 34 goats to the Town Watch to form a roving patrol - camels being recently hard to obtain - let him drop his guard early in negotiations. Though how they intended to break-in those half-wild, monsterous beasts of the stony desert was beyond him).

Of course, this war with the Aegypts will triple my usual fee, stammered Ahmed (actually discussing business much too early to be either polite or commercially prudent - he'd been badly rattled in Antioch the previous week by riots - the Amir had very nearly lost the city to disaffected artisans and craftsmen before a quick thinking Captain of the Guard, and the removal of a range of taxes, had restored calm.)

After much robust discussion they settled on close to the usual fee. Business politely, and finally, concluded Ahmed lunged for the door to the pissour, while Yusuf sat back and considered whether to divert to Antioch. His left eye twitched at the prospect of tax-free trade, but possibly it was just the 14 cups of coffee they'd consumed - he was not also known as Yusuf the Camel for nothing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Actually Gregoshi, I can only see the choices
[Your Control Panel::Log Out::New Posts]
underneath the Welcome line, and no other Notepad links ??
I just retyped.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Yusuf wandered contentedly back to the pitched black tents of his tribe and family. He'd been able to wring from Ahmed the terms that his son, Umma, wanted for those ridicuolus wooden bead toys. As he released his aching bladder against a conveniently thirsty palm tree, he thought about the real business of getting his 28 war camels and riders to where the real events were unfolding.

Umma had reasoned correctly that tying knots in a camel hair string, which was fine for selling millet and cloth, would not cut it in running the procurement and administration of the burgeoning Seljuk empire. The push for ascendancy in astronomical research in the Hindu Kush had burned through more calculating devices than peasants in a cold winter.

More beads, more speed was the new mantra, resulting in perfectly good abacus being rendered obsolete in those ivory towers. He'd picked up scores, scores of scores, of ex-astronomy abacus via an Indian caravan master and Ahmed the Armenian had the distribution network to deliver them to the Amir's quartermasters throughout the land

Of course, late or non-delivery to a government store could result in a charge of misappropriation and the removal of the offenders left hand - which is where Ahmed's fee was justified.

After years in the countryside, Umma was looking forward to immersing himself in a city where some money could really change hands..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/flirt.gif

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Umma held the position of scribe in the family trading business, far flung across burning deserts and muddied oasis - but he dreamed of city dockyards, trade flowing underneath him on the bitter salty waters of the Caspian and Mediterranean seas ......he was certain he would adjust easily to naval trade, after all, weren't camels known as the ships of the desert ( though of course with camels the water was all on the inside&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The key to successful trade, he realised, was tax - or rather, the lack of it Tax mitigation had crept into his thoughts like Persia's powdery dust had crept into his bodily orifices. A chance comment at last nights campfire, a reference to a bottom of the harbour scheme, intrigued him. He wasn't sure if actual water was involved but, by Allah, he was sure the dockyards at Antioch were.

The snorting, slobbering, farting, stinking horde of Yusuf's war camels and their riders (to be fair, the camels were only responsible for the slobbering) was a goad for Ummas to further his scheme to be nowhere near the illustrious and glorious future his father had laid out for them all.

[Gregoshi]

Hmmm, maybe that is a Junior Patron thing.

Try this: click on Your Control Panel in the upper left of the screen. Then in the Control Panel, click on Personal Info in the gray line running across the middle of the screen. The last item on this Personal Info page should be Your Notepad.

You know Fate, this gem of yours should have its own thread. You should also copy the stuff you've already written into the new thread too.

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Gregoshi, Grothgar, how about I put it into the ongoing game, sort of, the idea is to relate the story to the game anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

[Gregoshi]

Sort of a view from the civilian perspective. Nice idea, but it is up to Grothgar - it is his game.

[Grothgar]

Fate Amenable to Change i have been enthralled by your stories. This is exactly what i saw when i envisioned this project. If you could i would like you to do varying points of view. Like a peasant in the Turkish Empire. A soldier in the Egyptian Army. A border guard for the Byzantine Empire. And of course you can keep your own characters http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

But yes if you fell you can do this then i would be honoured to have you in the main thread.

[Aleborg]

Cool Fate, have u written any book?? i will buy it then... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Really nice, i like very much also to write, but my poor english is really a problem to do that here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
I can do it in spanish, but not very useful then here, no??
Well, im counting the hours to know more about Yusuf and his Camels http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Grothgar]

Just to give you a heads up that there probably wont be an update today, i have played the turn, but there is a lot that happened.

In brief:

Palestine and Arabia Taken.
Prince Aybak killed in battle.
2 Amirs lost their lives on the Fields of Tripoli.
And much more

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Thanks for the support guys, its great to hear you are enjoying my first ever published works I've not written a book, Aleborg, probably just read far too many - I've absorbed Terry Pratchetts love of nonsense, I think
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
I'd be honoured to write for the game - but you'll never know what you're getting next

[Gregoshi]

Grothgar You tell us the vaguest details, mention two of us died but not which ones...and we have to wait until tomorrow to find out who? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif I like your style. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Grothgar]

As you may have seen in the other thread, i lost 2 amirs, i mentioend it here, they were run by King Edward and Vasker and thus these next two Amirs are for them alone. They are replacements However the Third one is open for anyone who wishes to take part.

Name: Amir al-Aziz
Player: King Edward
Region: Edessa

Loyalty: 9
Piety: 1
Dread: 0
Command: 0
Acumen: 3

Unit: 100 Spearmen


Name: Amir al-Abbas
Player: Vasker
Region: Antioch

Loyalty: 6
Piety: 1
Dread: 0
Command: 0
Acumen: 3

Unit: 100 Spearmen


Name: Amir al-Khan
Player:
Region: Palestine

Loyalty: 9
Piety: 3
Dread: 0
Command: 0
Acumen: 4

Unit: 100 Peasants

Obviously whoever takes the Free Region of Palestine for governorship will not really being involved in battles, but as i see this as quite an interesting part if you would like i could get your person killed off and then transfer the amirship to a better unit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Fate Amenable to Change]

Grothgar,
if it suits, could Yusuf become the Amir of Palestine, or an important functionary (one devoted to camels, perhaps&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif or of another province where he reeally doesn't have to do too much?

It would satisfy his ambitions to get ahead in life, and let me mix him into a whole different circle of contacts - what a terrifying idea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Aleborg]

Im my modest opinion i think we can get benefits from Yusuf experience in camels and in life.
I will be happy if our Sultan allowed him to grow up in life. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Grothgar]

Yes of course Yusaf could become the Governor of Palestine. Im sure your story telling abilities could manage to make it believable that a peasant in the Province of Rum somehow became the Govenor of Palestine lol.

Welcome Aboard

[Vasker]

Looks like my guy died http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif . Where is this new Amir al-Abbas located ? Is he with the Sultan's army ? If you need him in one of the attack groups go ahead and move him there. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif