Rome: Total War mini-preview.

[Oberiko]

R:TW preview (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=86091)

Apparantly the video we saw (with the screaming, shouting, pre-battle grunting) was in-game, and we can expect alot more interesting things to be going on as well.

Anyone want to fill us in on who the Visgoths were? Early Germanic tribes?

[muffinman14]

SWEEETTT its coming out this Christmas rad

[Knight_Yellow]

now i must invent a time machine that will throw me 11 months into the future.

i might also cum back and play the lotto http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Catiline]

Quote[/b] ]Gloriously, the graphical detail often plays an important role in the game's battles. A good example is the game's day/night cycles. Should sieges or battles stretch into the wee hours, you'll start seeing individual soldiers carrying flaming torches in order to see what they're doing. Which, naturally, makes them easier targets for archers or swordsmen.

Should be interesting. Also has a date of Xmas.

[Brutal DLX]

Quote[/b] (Oberiko @ Jan. 24 2003,03:07)]R:TW preview (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=86091)

Apparantly the video we saw (with the screaming, shouting, pre-battle grunting) was in-game, and we can expect alot more interesting things to be going on as well.

Anyone want to fill us in on who the Visgoths were? Early Germanic tribes?
Not really Germanic Tribes, but people who settled around the danube regions and got driven out by the approach of Attila's Horde. Eventually the visigoths ended up around the North of the Iberian peninsula...

[Tempiic]

Actually the Visigoths, with their close kin the Ostrogoths are a northern germanic tribe.

Goths, ancient Teutonic people, who in the 3rd to the 6th century AD were an important power in the Roman world. The Goths were the first Germanic peoples to become Christians. According to the 6th-century Gothic historian Jordanes, the Goths came from Sweden across the Baltic Sea to the basin of the Wisla (Vistula) River. By the 3rd century ad they had migrated as far south as the lower Danube, around the Black Sea. During that century Gothic armies and fleets ravaged Thrace, Dacia, and cities in Asia Minor and along the Aegean coast. They captured and plundered Athens in 267 to 268, and threatened Italy. For about a century, wars between the Roman emperors and Gothic rulers devastated the Balkan territory and the northeastern Mediterranean region. Other tribes joined the Goths, and under the great king Ermanaric in the 4th century, a kingdom was established that extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea.

About 370 the Goths divided into two separate groups. The Ostrogoths (Low Latin Ostrogothae, the eastern Goths) inhabited a large kingdom east of the Dniester River on the shores of the Black Sea (part of modern Ukraine and Belarus). The Visigoths (Low Latin Visigothi, the good Goths or the noble Goths) were the western Goths, with a domain extending from the Dniester to the Danube rivers.

In 376 the Visigoths, threatened by the Huns, sought the protection of the Roman emperor Valens, and they were given permission to settle into the empire's province of Moesia, which was south of the Danube. When Gothic soldiers were maltreated by Roman officers, the Goths revolted, and the resulting war climaxed in a decisive battle in 378 near Adrianople (now Edirne, Turkey), in which Valens was killed. The victorious Goths then threatened Constantinople (present-day Istanbul). Theodosius I, who succeeded Valens as emperor in the East, made peace with the Goths and incorporated their army into the Roman forces. From that time on, the Visigoths were an important influence in the Roman Empire. Many who had settled in Moesia became farmers and were known as Moeso-Goths. Ulfilas, bishop of the Goths, translated the Bible into Gothic and was largely responsible for the conversion of the Goths to a form of Christianity called Arianism.

On the death of Theodosius in 395, the Visigoths renounced their allegiance to Rome and chose Alaric I as their ruler. Alaric invaded Greece and then Italy, and in 410 he captured and pillaged the city of Rome. In that same year he was succeeded by Ataulf, who led the Visigoths across the Pyrenees mountain range into Spain.

From 415 to 418, under the next ruler, Wallia, the Visigoths extended their realm over a great part of Spain and southern Gaul, with Toulouse as their capital. Wallia was succeeded by the reputed son of Alaric, Theodoric I, who died fighting as an ally of Rome against the Huns at the Battle of Châlons. The most notable of the Spanish Visigothic kings was Euric, who reigned from about 420 to 484. He was a son of Theodoric I. Under Euric, who declared his rule to be independent of any federation with Rome, the kingdom of Toulouse included almost all of Spain and most of Gaul west of the Rhône River and south of the Loire River. Euric introduced many aspects of Roman civilization and drew up a code of law combining Roman and German elements. The kingdom was, however, continually beset by both internal and external difficulties. The kingship was nominally elective, and the powerful Visigothic nobles stood against attempts to found a hereditary royal house. Externally, the Byzantine Empire and the Franks menaced the Visigothic lands. In order to instill greater loyalty in his rebellious Roman and Christian subjects, Alaric II in 506 introduced the collection of laws known as the Breviary of Alaric. A year later, Clovis I, king of the Franks, defeated the Visigoths at the Battle of Vouillé, in which Alaric II was killed. Most of Provence was separated from the Gothic lands, and the Visigothic kingdom was confined almost entirely to Spain. Despite the attempts of a long line of Gothic kings to hold the kingdom together, the power of the Visigoths steadily declined. The last king, Roderick, was defeated and probably killed by the Muslims in the Battle of Río Barbate in 711. By 713 Spain was partially conquered by the Moors, and the Visigothic power survived in the independent Christian kingdom of Asturias.

Goths, Microsoft® Encarta® Online Encyclopedia 2002
http://encarta.msn.com © 1997-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
© 1993-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

[Rosacrux]

I hope they shall give equal attention (and respect) to the strategy portion of the game.

Well to be honest, i think they'll pay more attention to the very impressive battles, but I look for the whole packagge, not just the fighting.

[Oberiko]

Thanks Tempiic.

[Basileus]

Sounds to good i think heh, on ething that is bothering is that it seems like the game focuses to much around the romans..i wanna play the greeks dammit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[muffinman14]

the engine took 2 friggen years to build... now its going to be awesome or Im just dumb as hell, no?.

[ShadesWolf]

Quote[/b] ]The campaigns are pretty impressive affairs as well, with the Roman senate acting as a sort of narrative structure to everything, issuing mission orders and opening the doors to the diplomatic and trade options of the game. Crucially, it's not just Gaul, Visigoths, Carthaginians and other assorted races to deal with, but also rival Roman factions, all looking to control the Senate and declare themselves Caesar. Which is your job, of course.



I dont like this quote, does this mean we are not going to be free to do what we want, and end up have a mission based game.

If that is the case, this will be a BIG NO from me

[Swoosh So]

Soly i think this may be like ga's to gain power in the senate.

[malkuth]

Sounds good cant wait. At least I have MTW, MOO3, And LOMAC to tie me over until Xmas. (OF course XMAS might not happen. But we will see)

[Aide de camp]

I don't think R:TW is going to be a mission based game, it would be a backwards step. The missions should only be a way of gaininig the senate's favour. After gaining it's favour a famous and experienced general would have more liberty to use his armies as he wants.

[some_totalwar_dude]

Quote[/b] (muffinman14 @ Jan. 24 2003,18:15)]the engine took 2 friggen years to build... now its going to be awesome or Im just dumb as hell, no?.
No luckly your not dump, the game is just gonne be awesome

Or I'm dump to http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Herodotus]

Awesome

[Gregoshi]

Welcome Aide de camp. Thanks for signing up with us. Me thinks you are pretty right on with your assessment of the Senate missions.

[mario_yepes]

Just noticed an excellent book available in your local bookstore called Roman Warfare (History of Warfare)
by Adrian Goldsworthy ($15.00) that outlines the tactical
and organizational changes for the Roman army from Scipio through Augustus. Drawing from Tacticus, it has great tips to lay out your army based on historical battles with diagrams.

It will help out with my MTW hangover...


Quote[/b] ]Gladius, Oppugnare, Impetus http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif