Inquisitors

[SuperTimo]

First I`d like to say hi to everyone here, because this is my first post here. And then I`d like to tell something strange.
I had a cardinal and a bishop in a province and still english inquisitor could convict my general who had 5 piety and no vices. I would have propably ignored this because that general wasn`t very important to me, but that damn inquisitor also burned two other generals in the same province, both of them had 4 piety. Are those bishops and cardinals doing anything?

[Kensai Achilles]

not that I know of. Send assasins to take them out pronto http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I've had similar experience, after my assasins take them out here and there, I began to build inquisitors and turn the table around.

[Cooperman]

How many stars did the inquisitor have as a high level inquisitor can kill anyone the pope included and if they have 5 or more stars can be tough to kill unless you have an equally high level assassin.

[Kensai Achilles]

I'm not sure on how the probability designed, but when I drop a few assasins in one target, usually one of them do the job. Same thing with inquisitors, I don't just drop one, but a few of them ( like 3, 4 or more ) on each AI's general.

i.e For the inquisitors 20% rate of success (and above) to kill a general is pretty high and most of the time they have succeeded whenever I dropped a few of them in single target ... at least in my campaigns they have. So in reverse try a group of assasins as well.

[Gregoshi]

Greetings and welcome to the Org SuperTimo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

I see you've already met a number of our very helpful members here. Just ask and ye shall receive an answer. If you have something to contribute about any subject you see here, then please don't hesitate to say it

Here's a followup question for the panel: SuperTimo mentioned he had an Inquisitor and a Bishop in a province. IIR, does't the Bishop neutralize the effects of the Inquisitor with regards to province zeal?

[Exile]

From the manual under inquisitors: They will be less efective in provinces where there is a Catholic bishop or Cardinal. The valor of an inquisitor affects how good he is at his appointed tasks.

So having the religious agents helps. The inquisitor was probably high valor. You'll want to assassinate him pronto. It will probably take a squadron of assassins. Or wipe out his faction. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[SuperTimo]

Yeah I assasinated him soon. It seems I managed to irritate the English somehow. First the inquisitor and then they attacked normandy, which I hold. Well, now they are no more. They attacked me and I got excommunicated but not them. Strange. Not that it matters any more (luckily the pope is not immune to assasins&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. By the way, I`m playing as the Spanish and have noticed that the easy difficulty is too easy. Well, this is just my second campaign so next time I´ll choose moderate difficulty (or is it medium?).

[Hosakawa Tito]

I never noticed any diffence whether I had Cardinals and Bishops protecting my generals from getting barbecued or not. Except for increasing the percentage of Christians in a province, prior to an invasion or an inserection, they are just about worthless. They must be too busy abusing the altar boys. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Jampe]

Quote[/b] (Exile @ Dec. 27 2002,15:23)]From the manual under inquisitors: They will be less efective in provinces where there is a Catholic bishop or Cardinal. The valor of an inquisitor affects how good he is at his appointed tasks.

So having the religious agents helps. The inquisitor was probably high valor. You'll want to assassinate him pronto. It will probably take a squadron of assassins. Or wipe out his faction. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

I think by less effective the manual means less effective at raising zeal in a province and this doesn't apply to the trials that the inq. attempts- the manual just words this very ambiguously by putting the thing about higher valor inq. performing better at tasks right next to it.

I go all out to assassinate inqs. whenever they come anywhere near me as they can play merry hell (literally http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif )with my governors.

[Portuguese Rebel]

Bishops are good to keep the peasants happy. I always send some bishops around to those muslim provinces i want, so when i do get them they will welcome me better. Also, if there is a revolt on a province where the main religion is not your own, chances are its a relligious revolt (with top class units)... this can be prevented by bishops and you will only get peasant revolts wich you can crush much more ease.
I remember one time i had a religious revolt and had to fight Chiv knights, halbardiers, Chiv MAA, and no faction could even build this units yet (a lot of wars on that campaign). I had to fight it with spearmen, archers, and mounted sargents http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
The result was not nice (hey... they were supposed to be police, but the dam pope did not like my trampling on the french http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

[SmokWawelski]

Hah, sometimes it looks like there are two separate sets of statistics and rules for AI and human player. I rarely use something else than regular priests. The scarry guys though find always a cozy spot in my hart for them....

[Demon of Light]

Zeal also plays a big role in the success of an Inquistion. If zeal is at 69%, then the Inquisitor has a really good chance to roast when bishops and cardinals are absent. When present, they reduce the chance but not enough to drop it below 50% (I think)

[wordsmith]

muahahahha, i laugh at those who do not know the true POWER of cardinals and inquisitors MUAH

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heeahahaaa http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

well ok its not that funny, but man these guys are so cool I *always* have one super cardinal and one super grand inquisitor. The super cardinal handles ALL my diplomacy, even the weakest cardinal is better at negotiations then the highest ranking emissary. The super grand inquisitor I use to burn generals who fail me and eliminate powerfull enemy generals, and once he gets 5+ valor i can use him to burn enemy kings Also if your in the habit of burning your faithless generals youll find that the new units you produce tend to be a bit more godfearing. Often burning a factions generals will result in retallitory inquisitions on your own generals, but let the bastards burn. BURN BURN BURN HHAHAHAHA