STW crashing on XP

[ru96980]

I have been enojoying MTW very much. Ah, being the rampagin Spaniards, or keeping the the infidels out of the holy land has been a lot of fun. Then I started getting sentmental and missing the lands of the far east. So I loaded STW on my new computer with Windows XP. I choose a start a new campaign, choose a faction, and then it starts to load it and crashes to desktop. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Does anyone had this happend or know a work around??? Oh how I miss Japan...

Brad

[Gregoshi]

Welcome to the Org ru. Here's the secret hand shake:

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Learn it well. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

As to your problem, can you tell us about your system? Operating system and hardware specs? Also, are you running STW or WE/MI? Do you have any patches installed?

[Orange]

Hmm, same here, getting nostalgic, so I too loaded STW (original) onto my XP machine. (PIII 750MHz, nVideaTNT2, Windows XP, patched to 1.12. 256 RAM)
The game runs, but when I perform a siege with over 120 men in total it just crashes to desktop. Now if I can run massive sieges in Medieval, this shouldn't be too hard, should it? Tried searching the forum and the apothecary, but came up with nothing.
Next thing I am going to try is deleting the patch and see what it does when it is really really the very first Shoggy version there was
*Ahh, that nostalgic feeling http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *

[wordsmith]

If i knew how to keep xp from going bonkers and crashing at the slightest bump i wouldnt have smashed the cd and bought windows 2k, which incedently made me feel much better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

srry, no help here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[Skomatth]

not sure but i think u might have a corrupt start pos file

[HalfDone]

I have the same problem with my XP because I missed the far east too. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[Orange]

Sooo, XP is the wrongdoer. I had the idea medieval ran far smoother on XP than on 98SE, so I thought Shogun would do better as well. Guess not.
Hope someone knows how to fix it, otherwise I will have to autoresolve my castle assaults. Of course, for those who can't play at all, it's a complete bummer. Sorry for you guys, at least I can still play most of the game.

[Gregoshi]

It appears we have a STW/XP issue. Someone made a suggest to run STW in Win98 compatibility mode. Has anyone tried? Has it worked?

[Orange]

I have just tried it, after I read your post Gregoshi. Sadly, it didn't work, not in Win98, not in WinNT, not in Win95 compatibility mode.
This time I got the castlemap loaded, and as soon as I turned the camera facing the castle it crashed. Sounds to me like some kind of memory bug. Tomorrow I'll try adjusting the memory settings, see if that helps.

Again, being unable to run it at all is even worse, has someone tried it yet without any patches to the game? (not that I dislike the patch, and I doubt it works, but who knows?)

Orange

[SmokWawelski]

People that have XP usually have the latest stuff: do you have DirectX 9 installed? It was rumored to give older games some problems at the first release...

[Orange]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Got it to work my sieges properly. I'm running it in Win2000 compatibility mode. Also, have DirectX 8.1 I believe.
However, in the meantime I've also replaced the little fan over my processor chip (was making alot of noise), but I doubt that could have anything to do with it. Or does my processor use more of its power when cooled properly? (that last question might sound stupid, but I'm no expert at these things)

[Orange]

Also, as a sidenote, since no one answeres me in the Dojo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
In the Shogun F1 screen in battle, I see all the stats, except the attack bonuses. This column displays all zero's, while defense bonus, honour, and armour are displayed correctly. Am I missing something here and sounding stupid? If so, please tell me, it annoys me a bit. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

edit: typo

[Gregoshi]

You are taxing my memory but it seems to me there have always been problems with the F1 stat screen from STW right up to MTW.

[Orange]

Ah, thanks Gregoshi. I won't tax your memory anymore http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif, glad to know it is a known problem, I was thinking of reinstalling it to try if it changed a thing.

[shivan2k]

I just reinstalled STW on my XP system (a laptop PC&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif and it works
STW is still unpatched, anyway.
My system is: PIII 866 Mhz, 384 MRam, horrible video card and Directx 8.1 installed.
It works, for now...

[Kraellin]

stw with xp and crashes to desktop are mostly vid card driver issues. what worked with stw doesnt necessarily work with mtw. different generations. finding drivers that will work with both can be a problem. in win98se i found the 1241 drivers from nvidia worked with both. in win xp i havent tried stw yet, but most likely those suffering from nostalgia and installing stw on xp will have some vid card driver problems.

having been around during the tech problems with stw, i do remember that most crashes to desktop were vid card driver related. there wasnt much of a sound problem, except for that scratchy year end report on some machines. changing seasons and getting graphics corruption and other things graphics related and most likely vid card driver problems. bear in mind that xp wasnt even around when stw came out, so even though mtw might work fine on xp, stw may need quite a bit of tweaking. this is also why the guy trashing xp and installing 2000 may be just fine. 2000 WAS around back then.

in most cases, you shld still be able to get it to work by fiddling with drivers. you can try the xp compatibility modes, but mostly those seem to be like the old emulators you downloaded and dont see to be much good. you could also try a dual boot of another o/s, like win98se and do it that way.

K.