The King of England

[Herodotus]

I have had a great idea. I will start a new game as the English, and play it until the King dies, then I will let someone else play as the second king and so on. I think it will put an extra spin on the game as everyone will behave more like real kings (they want to accomplish everything in there own time). Is anyone keen? If you are leave your name here.

[ShadesWolf]

Nice Idea m8,

hows about doing a second spin to this....

I am currently about to start a SP campaign Guide for England, and this woul dbe a little bit of added spice for the section. So if you could save the campaign every 10 years then I could do a little section on that also http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

BTW what era are you starting with.........

To get in touch with me - ihusselbee@aol.com

[Ryttare]

Sounds kewl, PM me about details and how to contact you.

[chilling]

I'll have a king.

I bet mine doesn't get the crown until he's 70 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Herodotus]

If people don't want to post their e-mail adresses here you can send them to Xoxic@Yahoo.com.au instead, first in best dressed.

I was thinking each King should report to his heir on his death bed. So here goes:

[cough], [cough] Son thou hath fought bravely against the heathen French under mine supreme command, continue that fight, regain our lands that the dogs have torn from us. A ceasefire may be in thy interest for the immediate future, but forget not thou brothers death and thou valiant [cough] effort to save his [cough], [cough] body at Normandy. [cough] Revenge.......

So Shades are you going to be the second King? I'll send you the file anyway. Post a corronation speech if you are. Ryttare and chilling you have third and fourth reserved if you like, once again you can send me your email address at Xoxic@Yahoo.com.au

[Grothgar]

An excellent idea, and without false modesty, one i was going to suggest after my Interactive AAR was finnished. This is another thing that was prevelant on the EU Boards, its called PBEM (Play by Email).

But as for the reports, some kings can live for a long time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif so i think reporting after something major had happened could be how to do it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif But good idea, pity i didnt say it first http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Aleborg]

Nice for me to be a king when i will be needed.

I promise to make a crusade asap and die also very fast http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Nice idea http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Alrowan]

ill be up for a spot.. after beating the english as france, i tihnk its time i made my mark on the world

[ShadesWolf]

So the reign of my father has ended, and I am spurned on by the belief that FRANCE is truely mine or will be.

Once again, the people of France will be under the rightful rule of their lord and master the King of England. The whole country will be England, from Brittany to Flanders, from Normandy to Aquitane

The lands of my fathers, the kings of Angevin, with be ours

For God, England and St George........

[Alrowan]

another thing that would be good if everyone wrote a story of thier reign

[Grothgar]

Well Alrowan i assumed that writing a story about your reign was a given thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Or maybe thats because i like writing huge multi paragraph posts. I think its a requirement so you know what has happened http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[Alrowan]

well here i a little excerpt from my french history annals..

The third crusade was doomed from the start. King Phillipe II, most pious of kings insistent over all odds would see this crusade get further than ever before, and further it did. In the Year of our Lord 1146 the crusaders set forth across europe. hoping against hopes that the turkish infedels had removed themselves from constanintople, blessed of cities after rome and Jeruselam. The Crusaders made hast to tripoli, where godd was said to have apeared to St Paul at damascus. Upon reaching Constantinople, they found it in posession of thier brothers, the scillians, who after consideration let them through. But alas, upon entering aisia minor the turks set about destroying the crusaders, who did eventually take Tripoli, but were driven back as more infedels scoured the seiging army. The Crusaders were lost
When news reached home of this horrid event, the generals saw the kings incompetence, and Anjou, Toulous, Swabia, Normandy and Friesland all rebelled. The kings influence was low, but his most loyal general sttod by him, and soon all but swabia and friesland were reconquered. The greatest battle of them all would be that of Anjou, where Phillipe's death was most tragic. Vengeful against his lors for rebelling, the king mustered up all who would rally to his aid, and severely outnumbered they took the field. A great battle ensured, and soon much of the enemy routed. But many of the kings men lay slain. Then when the enemy rallied, and chraged at the king, the king took hold an held his ground. He was slain in the following skirmish, and the remainder of his army fell about him, a black day in france indeed.
Prince Jean, who would take the throne after his father was not the most loyal of sons, but when he heard of his fathers death, he mourned for months, then taking up the sword he vowed that the rebels in anjou would decorate his coronation throne, and so he led an army, and won the day. From then King Jean would be known as the Unifier, and the man who looked across the chanel for greater victories.

[econ21]

Nice idea - put me in line for the thrown(Simon.appleton@nottingham.ac.uk); I don't mind being a Prince Charles and inheriting as an old king.
I'll play guided by my vices and virtues, but if given discretion will build up the kingdom and go for England's Glorious Achievements.

[el_slapper]

mmmh, don't give it to me. As a true frog, I'd sabotage it...

But nice idea. I think I'll make one on a french site.

[Gregoshi]

Excellent idea. I assume that when you die, you email the game save to the next person?

This is similar to a cross-stitch club my sister-in-law is in. One person starts a cross-stitch and works on one part. They then mail it to the next person on the list to do a section, and so on.

Er, what happens if a civil war errupts? They don't have this problem in the cross-stitch club. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Jan. 29 2003,09:54)]Er, what happens if a civil war errupts? They don't have this problem in the cross-stitch club. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Hmmm... I would say maybe the next two Kings on the list could meet in multiplayer, both as the english, and fight it out to see who goes next.

[ShadesWolf]

## THE REIGN OF WILLIAM III (1101 - 1131) ##
King of England and France

In the Year of our lord 1101, ShadeWolf came to the thrown, from hence forth he would be known as William III - King of England.

William was a great warrior and showed no mercy to his enemies. He cut his teeth on the war with France. As a young Prince he won his spurs on the invasion of Flanders.

http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/kingwilliam3.gif http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1101vices.gif


It was a troubled time, his father the great king, had been at war with the old enemy - France, initially the war had gone well, but the years before his death saw the empire reduced the Normandy, the Land of his forefather 'the conqueror' and the new land of Flanders.

Map of the empire as William III comes to the thrown 1101
http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1101map.gif


Flanders was an important province for England, it was a landbrige to the mainland, this would allow fresh troop to floke into europe and defend the empire.......The province of Flanders was a rich land, full of traders. This would bring money to the empire. William set about building trade centres, ports and advanced farmland. The key to any successful campaign was money. Money would allow the young king to recruitment mercenary soldiers, who were far better than the native soldiers that could be trained in the empire.

War and victory was in the blood of this young Norman, to fulfil his desinty William knew he must eliminate the French threat. Once again Aquataine must be under english rule. This is an important location as it in rich in tradable resources......

William could not help but notice, that a number of French provinces were very weakly defended - Brittany, Ille de France, Anjou etc. The French king was located in Aquataine with a large army. Watching the borders with Spain and Aaragon.

William wasted no time in sending emisaries to a number of european powers (inc Spain and aaragon), to request marriages or alliances. He also launched minor invasions into Brittany, Ile De France and champagne.
The idea here was two fold:
- it would put the French on the back foot, and if successful would reduce there income.
- But also to let the French King and the rest of Europe see that he was a power not to be messed with.

By continuing to attack French land, there king would not have enough men to defend his southern or easterm borders, and with any luck they would be invaded by another nation seeing how weak the French position one also.

Phase 1 of the conquest of France was successful. Very little resistance was found in Brittany or Champagne. The French retreated without an arrow being fired. In Ile-de-France, it was a different story. The local duke gathered up his castle militia, with some peasants and a few archers and met the invading English army in the north of the province at a bridge following over a large river. The French army outnumbered the English by at least three to one.

The English army, however, was madeup of spearmen, Longbowmen, from wales and a few horsemen. The English setup a defensive position on the far side of the river. The French believing there superior numbers would win the day, powered over the bridge, in their hundred. Three units of spearmen engaged the enemy at the bridge. The archers took up position on a ridge overlooking the bridge and rained down there arrows on the trapped French army. It became a route.....

http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/firstmajorvictory.gif

The french army ran for there lives, and the English army had won the day. The remaining French retreated to the castles in Paris, being chased by the victorious English. The army setup camp and laid siege to the great city.

The French king shocked by the easy defeat and the loss of income, split his army and simultaneously invaded Brittany and Ile-de-France. The army in Brittany put up a good fight, but being outnumbered, finally retreated to Normandy. The English force in Ile-de-France seeing they were terribly outnumbered also retreated to Normandy. The French king then ordered his reserves in Brittany to re-inforce the garrison in Anjou. Leaving a small garrison in Ile-de-France, he also marched to Anjou.

On seeing the French kingdoms weakness an emissary arrived in the King of England court in London offering an alliance. William instructed that the alliance should be accepted before leaving with a new army to Flanders.

Many mercenary units hearing of the wars between England & France arrived in Normandy at the Inns, hoping to see some action. Williams recruited a number of these, and then with his new armys invaded Brittany, Ile-De-France and Anjou. The king of Aaragon seeing that Toulouse was undefended invaded. The war was short and the French king retreated to Aquataine lossing all four provinces. The Englsih King followed him and laid siege to his last remaining province.

A few year passed, and finally the castle fell, the King of France was exercuted and thus ended the Kingdom of France, from hence forth, The provinces, of France would now be part of England. And William and his child would be crowned King of the Kingdom of England and France.

William quickly set about improving the trade and income in all provinces, and building a great navy to rule the seas. He also managed before his death to conqueror the provinces of Scotland and Ireland and add both of these to his kingdom. It would be a few years, though, until these lands were fully under English Rule.

In the year 1131, he died of illness, while returning to his capital in London.


More info to follows

The king is dead, long live the king

brief desc
TIMELINE
1101 King William III comes to the thrown at the age of 27.
1117 The war with France has ended; there king and all his heirs have been killed. The French Faction is finally removed. You restore your ancestor’s empire
1125 Ireland is added to the empire
1129 Scotland is added to the empire
1131 King WilliamIII dies of illness.

http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1127fewyearsb4death.gif http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1127vices.gif

William died of illness in the year of our Lord 1131. He will be remembers as a powerful leaders, with great influence. He was a great warrior and showed no mercy is conquering France. He achieved his destininy in reuniting the two kingdoms under English rule. He will also be remembered for conquering the barbaric Scots and troublesome Irish.

William was not a warlike monarch, he will also be know as a charismatic leader and a Magnificent builder. He was responsible for turing england into a great trading nation, he set down the foundations for a great navy that would rule the waves and bring trade in from all over the med.

Map of the empire on the death of William III 1131
http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1131map.gif http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1127livingfamily.gif

[Herodotus]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif Impressive 30 years Shades. Ryttares Reign is about to begin.

[econ21]

Wow - Shades Wolf, what a bequest you have left If your successors keep that up, I suspect I will only inherit a red map.
By the way - what's the difficulty level and type of game (GA or conquest)?

[ShadesWolf]

The game is GA

But I dont know what level

[Ryttare]

Rest in Piece Father, u have served ur God and country well. I shall be no less of a man, the world shall be known as England and William the Second and his heirs will always be remembered for their deeds.

[Alrowan]

wow.... im impressed... what was the game setting? Easy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Gregoshi]

Brilliant Wolf. You've set a high standard for the others. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Ryttare]

Im like half through now, and one thing is for sure, The sttings is not on Easy =)

[ShadesWolf]

So Herodotus where is the story of your reign ?

-- thanks Greg, I am, very trying http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Can I be a King at some point, please? I only just found this topic and it sounds like a good laugh. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Ryttare]

I came to the throne in the year of 1131, england was rich but the military had taken some heavy losses from my father's war with the french.

This is what the kingdom looked like when i came to the throne:
http://www.shadesmtw.com/graphics/1131map.gif

I begun to build up the military force, the finances were doing great and the fleet was very impressive.
Do give my generals osme experience I attacked the north lands thinking it would be an easy victory, norway fell instantly but the sweedes were to strong with their hordes of teutonic knigths. So instead of taking sweden i lay my assault on our former allies, the danes. The battle was quick and painfull for the danes, since they had nothing but cavalry i used spear units. They stood with no real chance and the king was slain by my general, one of the princes.

They year after the fall of denmark, the swedes (rebels) attacked my army of spearmen with their vikings. They were everywhere and my soldiers fleed leaving their general in the heat of battle without no support. Needless to say, the prince was slain trying to defend his father's regions. The routers where chased down and executed, since I did not pay for the release of the cowards that left the prince alone on the battlefield.

Sweden and denmark, held by the rebels, did not fall until the year of 1147 when my boosted northen army where 3 times as many.


The many years which my northern greatest army had faught the vikings, my southern army had been dueling the aragonese. Their units were weak but had the advantage of terrain, they were almost as unbeatable as the swedes, but after sieging the last aragonese castle for years, i finally laid the assault. It was the same year as i regained denamrk (1147) and my soldiers broke through the walls easily, slaying the king on the spot.

By now the kingdom of england was big enough, i were planning on only laying small crusades to the holy land.
But a civil war breaks out in germany and the HRE loses almost half their land. As a wrrior and opportunist, i see my chance to expend to central europe. I advance slowly to the east, destryoing all the armies opposing me. By the year of 1162 i ahve sieged almost all the HRE after killing the rebels and declaring war with the Emperor.

I also sent a crusade to sicily, the city fell in the year of 1156.

I hope my heirs can keep the kingdom intact and perhaps even expand. Remember my name sons.


The kingdom of England after my reign.
http://w1.340.telia.com/~u34019556/inte%20hemsida/1170.gif


So who do i send the save file to?

[Jacque Schtrapp]

Great idea Herodotus and kudos to Shadeswolf and Ryttare for the entertaining profiles of their respective reign. This provides a neat perspective and gives a quality of realism that is often hard to achieve when playing SP. Long live the King http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Herodotus]

The difficulty is Expert, I would not be caught dead playing anything less http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif .

As for the story of my reign, it lasted a short 14 years http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif . I built farming improvements and mines and a port in Wessex, I fought the French with initial outright success, they fought back taking the important province of Aquataine (which was devoid of spearmen and could not be saved in time) and ?Lorraine? (not an important province anyway).

The counter attack came swiftly, my favourite son William the III http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif (along with his brave brother) was sent to lead the attack on Flanders, it was a do or die situation, the English mainland veterans needed command and reinforcements which they were cut off from as long as Flanders was French.

The victory was a sound one, the French were cutt off from retreat and after recieving no ransom they were slaughtered, giving my son a bad name ever more. English veterans and fresh recruits poured toasts to their Great Warrior Prince. The reality however was that the score had merely been evened http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif , France had lost its great investment in Flanders and England, in Aquataine.

I then set about consolidating the small hold that we still held on the mainland by building forts and recruiting spearmen from Wessex. It was then that I died preparing for a fresh invasion still building up the economy all the while. I left a treasury of about 6000 florins a solid economical foundation and an Heir who was respected, feared and married.

[chilling]

Send the save to me. I'm next on the list. Well done. Looks like a whole empire I have to loose.

chilling@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Alrowan]

wow.. looks like spain got the upper hand on the alamohads.. perhaps they may be a thorn in my side when i ascend the throne

[Herodotus]

Make sure you send the save game files to me at Xoxic@Yahoo.com.au

[Ryttare]

ok, i have no sent the save files to Herodutus and chilling.

[chilling]

And it came to pass in the year of our lord 1171. King Richard I came to the throne.

[Muneyoshi]

Hmm sounds interesting, add me to the list (guess that means im next, eh?). Good idea m8, very good actually http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[Ryttare]

Muneyoshi as far as i can see, there is 4 people infront of you in the line.

[Alrowan]

here is the order after chilli

Chilli
Grothgar (i think he signed up)
Aelborg
Alrowan
Simeon Appleton

and so on

[Grothgar]

Uh i dont rememebr signing up, i expressed regret that i didnt think of this idea first but thats it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i have my own commitments lol

[chilling]

Richard rose to be King of England, he was hardly a man know for his womanising, managing to produce a single heir who matures a scant 4 years before his death.

He started on a great program of public works. Farmland throughout the kingdom was improved. Seeing the opportunity to increase his income further his trading fleet was expanded. Trade routes stretched as far as the Easter Mediterranean Seas. The kingdom finally got the protection from enemy agents with the training of our own assassins that protect our boarders. Many assassins from the Italian and HRE factions have had their letters of introduction, shall we say, erased.

Generally many factions are allied to ours with only the Spanish and HRE clinging to the last vestiges of war. Many attempts to gain a ceasefire from the respective kings were made, but to no avail. It was with sadness that we had to sit and watch the Alomhad tide sweep across Greater Spain. Forces were dispatched to our most Southern provinces, lest this tide would sweep us away too. As time turned it came to pass that both the Spanish and HRE Kings were left with only a single province to call a kingdom.

The years rolled quietly by England was acclaimed for its technological advancement and riches beyond compare.

In the year 1190 Peace was shattered.

The Spanish king, seeing his position was impossible agreed peace terms. The very next year he marched upon Aquitaine from Navarre. The king was killed and the Spanish kingdom flew into anarchy. The rebels were quickly persuaded to lay allegiance to the English crown. This brief war caused unrest around Europe, many alliances were broken. In the year 1193 The HRE King, taking advantage of this unrest is tempted into claiming Swabia. This comes at the same time as the Italians staking a claim over Tyrolia. The Italian action was widely coordinated with attacks on shipping in the Mediterranean and the capture of Sicily.

To counter.

The southern Armies of England were sent to middle Italy. Finding it poorly defended Genoa was taken without a fight. It seems the Italians are stretching their resources with their executive action. The HRE king makes a quick exit leaving his army besieging Swabia.


Armies throughout England are poised…


1195 The King dies…


http://www.chilling.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/richardI.JPG

Sending save game to Aelborg and Herodutus If you send me your email addresses.

[Alrowan]

good to see a more stable period of the game... but peace will always be shattered

[Herodotus]

Once again my address is Xoxic@Yahoo.com.au
I haven't heard from Aleborg so just send it to Alrowan instead.

[barocca]

so here is the current list

Alrowan (current King)
Simeon Appleton
Muneyoshi
Barocca barocca_x@hotmail.com

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Muneyoshi]

Ah ok, cool. Only 2 more tell Im the King of the World...erhm, England

[Efrem Da King]

I'll go after that and be the black sheeo in the family and destroy all you've buil. MUhhMaam afdaififhahahahhaha.
eblack@idx.com.au

[Alrowan]

orps... my email is the_smphill@hotmail.com

[econ21]

Good luck, Alrowan (or should I say, father?) My e-mail address is earlier on this thread.

First let me say that I like the idea behind this thread. My brother and I did something similar to this where we played as France (expert) and traded control of the game whenever a monarch died.

I ask that no one welcome me to the org. Why? This is not my first time here. My previous log in name was Demon of Light. I have added the (A) to it because I was unable to activate my account the first time I tried. I e-mailed the moderater for Entrance Hall (KukriKhan) and was told to try activating my account again. I did so, failed, and e-mailed the moderater again to advise that I was unsuccessful. I have not heard from Kukri Khan in 4 days. I was furher unsuccessful in activating THIS account so this will likely be my only post. Apologies for spilling my problems on this thread but I have questions to ask about this game and no longer feel like waiting upon KukriKhan's pleasure to resolve this issue (No offense, truly). I keep recieving error messages that claim I left one of the fields incomplete. Please advise.

P.S: before anyone asks, I e-mailed KukriKhan again 5 minutes ago.

[barocca]

when emailing moderators of any particular forum,
email ALL of them,

we have multiple moderators for a reason, some of us (myself included) have real lives, this may take us away from home (here) for days at a time, by having multiple moderators (and adding more as required) we ensure at least one mod is active on all boards at any given time,
KukriKahn is AWOL in the real world,
please contact Gregoshi or Hosakawa.
:-)

[barocca]

btw
Guys, when i am finally more than a glint in my daddy's eye and ascend to the throne i will post a small account every day,
it may take me a couple of days to grow old and die,
I promise to rule wisely and well, to expand Englands holdings for my descendants and to shag the daylights out of whichever princess i get married off to and ensure plenty of heirs for England
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[chilling]

Mail sent to Alrowan and Herodotus.

[Muneyoshi]

Do me proud Grandpa http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

*waits impatiently for his turn*

[Gregoshi]

Demon of Light (A), I see nothing wrong with either account. Could you please email me what you were doing (login, post new, reply) and when you got the message? (gbresslr@comcast.net) I don't see anything wrong with your account from my limited view of it and you did post twice under the old name. I've emailed Tosa to look at your original account to see if there is a problem. He can see much more of it. We'll keep you posted.

On behalf of Kukri, sorry about the lack of response, he'd respond if he was able.

[Alrowan]

arg... i see no email

hope hotmail decides not to stuff up

[chilling]

oops, forgot to zip it and it's too big.

I'll resend it zipped this time.

[Alrowan]

got it now

[KeePah]

This is a very great idea, hope it isnt over yet, sign me up if it still goes on. My mail is keepah@hotmail.com

Btw, I started a new game with the English yesterday and wanted to live in the game a bit so I wrote down all Heirs in a family tree and so on, who they marry with and when they dies, whos childs belongs to whom and so on. =)

[Alrowan]

well my reign is over... can someone host my image?

ill post my story soon, and who was next?

[econ21]

Alrowan,
I am next - simon.appleton@nottingham.ac.uk.
Thanks,
Simon

[barocca]

Quote[/b] (Alrowan @ Feb. 05 2003,05:42)]well my reign is over... can someone host my image?

ill post my story soon, and who was next?
email me the image, i'll host it.
barocca_x@hotmail.com

[Alrowan]

Was there ever a king so great?? Never. King Edmund IV of the great English realm was a man who sought to make his mark on history, and that he did. When he asumed the throne in the year of our lord 1195, he was best on all sides by enemies. His forefathers had handed him a realm that was vast, yet backward and un-furnished. The treasury was full, but the lands were empty, and industry low. Another of the problems left to him was the enemies to his east and south. The Holy Roman Empire was a constant thorn in his fathers side, and the Moors in spain crowded on the border, looking for the time to attack. Italy sat in the alps as well, preying on the english warbands.

The first mighty task that Edumnd would do, would make a theme for his kingdom. He relieved the siege of Swabia, and would relieve the siege of his empire. The Holy Roman empire did not last long fater to say the least, but colapsed 3 years later, the Emperors head on a pikestaff. It would serve as warning to those who dared take the king on. Burgundy was the other problem for the young english king. Controlled by the might of italy, it took three proviences to guard the one, so taking a gamble, Edmund sent off his finest generals to dispose og the pesky provience, and emptied the three grarisons.

The victory was swift, and the provience delivered. Now with secure borders, Edmund set up his greatest feat. He began a mighty work across the empire, upgrading taining facilities, and incorperating the use of knights in the realm. Soon great warhosts were raised, and sent south into spain, to keep the alamohads in check. Thus a war of atrition began, each empire sitting and waiting. While this waiting went on, Edmund grew restless, began to raid across the alps, and soon he conquered the prime of Italy... Venice. This was a more than great victory, as it saw the last of italy on his land borders, a great feat indeed. Seeing thier Itallian cousins on the back foot, the scillians, ever eager against thier brothers forged an alliance with England, though only simbolic, it gave the English King much pleasure, as he was not alone in the world.

An uneasy peace settled over the kingdom, but while attempting to forge a new alliance with the poles, he was betrayed, and the polish armies crossed into franconia, and attempted an invasion... folly indeed. So enraged by this hostile action, Edmund, sent off his new armies to set the poles into place, and that he did, conquering thier realm in a short 4 years. Edmund then looked upon his empire and was not satisfied. He needed his own citadel to command from, so set about building a great citadel in Wessex. While this citdel was in construction, word came from the north that the ever wretched scotts had rebbelled. Thinking it only a small task to put down this rabble, Edmund himself led and army of 1000 men at arms vs the clansmen. He thought his steel and armour would win the day, but he was mistaken. His cowardly men ran from the filed leaving Edmund and his bodyguard to face the horde... needless to say, his bodyguards were overcome, and edmund escaped with his life. This forever would leave him scarred, and he plotted his vengance against the scotts in his high tower, overcome with drunkeness.

His plotting soon would be distracted though, as it seemed every enemy king was in alegiance against him, with the treacherous hungars destroying his adriattic fleet. Still fuming from his loss to the scotts, he rained his wrath upon the poor wretches, leaving no enemy soldier alive. Only a year after gaining peace in the east, the west called again, the Alamohads were desperate for all of spain. Edmund with his advisers began to devise a mighty plan, which would see his newly developed Chivalric troops to face the Moorish infidels. Not trusting the church and starting a crusade, Edmund turned to his new weapon... longbows. After a campagin of 10 years, and some of the most fierce battles yet, Edmunds armies marched upon the last Moorish fort in spain at Granada, there he besieged the place, and lay a slughter there that would forver instil fear in the moors.

Later that year, he marched into morroco, and africa, destroying the ast moorish stronghold, and burning the wretched sultan. It was in this year too that an illness fell upon the king. It would be some years to his death, but knowing it wouldcome, he refused to let it take him. He set about one great final task before he died, and that was to deal with the pesky dons. Corsica and Sardinia were taken with ease, then the king personally led an invasion into the Itallian holdings in the Balkans. He was victorous at greece, serbia and everywhere, but on the eve of his final invasion to naples and sciliy, his illness got the better of him, and he died pale and forlorn, leaving the realm to one of his two pathetic sons... each who could never bear as much sway as he, or command such influence.

[barocca]

The Kingdom upon the tragic death of Alowran aka Edmund IV of England
http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_alowran_map.gif

[Alrowan]

pic sent and savegame sent to appropriate people

[Alrowan]

crap.. looks like i didnt leave people much space to conquer anymore.. its nearly done http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
anyway, the way i played was act peacefully, swiftly killing those who attack me

[Ryttare]

Nice job Grand Prince =) What year did you die?

[econ21]

On his 50th birthday, in the year of our Lord 1231, King Stephen I awoke with a scream. The air lay heavy in his darkened room in the dank Scottish fort. His lover, Lady Marianne, wife of Sir Thomas Courcy, was sleeping fitfully by his side. But there, at the foot of his bed, sat the malevolent shade of his drunken father.

What? Aren't you dead yet? cursed the spirit.

King Stephen opened his mouth but no sound came forth, save a strangled squeak like that from a panicked mouse snared in the jaws of a well-fed house cat. Finally, he muttered:

But I have only been on the throne for three years.

Ha In that time, I had wiped out four factions and conquered Western Europe, his father retorted. This seemed a slight exaggeration, but Stephen inwardly confessed that so far time appeared to crawl slowly in his short reign by comparison to the frenetic pace of life under his father.

Report snarled the spectre of the dead king.

Well, father, as you can see, I have avenged your defeat. Scotland is ours again. Stephen offered with a mix of hope and surprising bravado. The conversation had a feel of unreality and already the two had slipped back into the ritualised exchanges they had indulged in for nearly half a century. Stephen knew from bitter experience that to fail to stand up to his overbearing father meant only that the boot would be ground more harshly into his face.

Pah dismissed the phantom. What a son I have bred On his coronation, he seizes Scotland in a glorious victory over a rabble of peasants; only to lose it again the following year in his haste to return to his mistress in London. The blurred, luminous green eyes of the dead king rested on the sleeping Lady Marianne. I see that you have solved that problem the second time round.

Stephen ignored the jibe, his still dazed mind drifting back to the two Scottish battlefields that had marked his entry onto the world stage. In the first, he had led an army of 1500 men against 1700 Scottish rebels. It was true, as his father had claimed, that the majority of the rebels had been simple folk, untrained or equipped for battle. But they were brave, well-led with no possibility of retreat, seasoned with fierce clansmen and spearheaded by Light Infantry, smuggled into the highlands by his hated enemy, the Italians. (What exactly was light about the well armoured Italian spearman had so far eluded the distinctly non-martial King). The battle had opened with an archery duel, his arbalesters easily besting the shortbows of the few highland archers. Then the Italian light infantry, backed by highlanders, had smashed into his right flank. For a time, his chivalric sergeants had wavered and the Scots launched a general offensive across the battlefield. Despite his reputation as a weak attacker, the new King had moved to the crisis point of the battle, offering what moral support he could and more importantly directing a flanking charge by a band of feudal knights. At the epicentre of the battle, the enemy buckled while elsewhere the Scottish peasants were predictability routed. The only untoward aspect of the battle was the surprise appearance of campfollowers and stragglers from the Scottish baggage train in the rear of the English right flank, who did some violence to Stephen's precious longbowmen before he was alerted to the danger and drove them off. It was a somewhat ignominious start to his career on the battlefield, with the whole engagement costing him the lives of 372 men. The enemy had lost 1085 dead, 535 taken, with Stephen taking some satisfaction in his personal retinue accounting for 133 of the rebels.

But how much more ignominious had been the aftermath of that battle Wishing to appear a merciful king, Stephen had released all the rebel prisoners and hastily departed for London with the bulk of his army, leaving the siege of Edinburgh castle to a contingent under one of his lieutenants. Despite the defeated Scottish nobility professing complete loyalty to the King, the province once again rose up in rebellion after the main English army left and a second rebel army of 1700 men, stiffen once again by a covert Italian expeditionary force, mustered to renew their uprising.

Stephen had halted his army at Stamford bridge and turned it round to force march back to the Edinburgh just in time to oppose the rebel attempt to lift the siege of the castle. This had been a battle more to Stephen's taste. Although by repute a weak attacker, he had no similar handicap when arraigning his forces in defensive formation on a slope. The composition of his army had been ideally suited to such an engagement. The frontline had consisted of stout chivalric spearmen; the second, arbalesters and longbowmen. In the third line had stood his siege train, hastily constructed and brought in from around Europe (Stephen silently cursed his father for omitting such an essential component of his armies; in the darkened room, the old ghost stirred slightly from the seeming drunken reverie into which it had temporarily sunk.) On the flanks were feudal men-at-arms while the rear had included a band of feudal knights and one of hobilars. The engagement had been a straightforward affair. Crashing boulders and waves of missile fire had dented to the Scottish infantry, but nonetheless they had closed with the English first line and worked considerable violence upon it, the Italian Light Infantry again giving a good account of themselves. It was only when Stephen had launched counterattacks on first the left flank and then the right that the rebels had buckled; a charge of feudal knights into the rear of the enemy again proving decisive. Wary of a repeat of the previous battle's unfortunate episode with Scottish reinforcements, Stephen had been more alert this time and halted his infantry from the pursuit, leaving his horse to run down the fleeing rebels and bring him their captured leader. Deprived of the element of surprise they had enjoyed in the first battle, the rabble of rebels belatedly arriving on the battlefield had made little impression. Demoralised by a lack of leadership, they had fled after enduring only a few volleys of missile fire and were duly cut down by the English horse. Stephen had ended the day having lost 197 souls, but having killed 989 rebels and captured 737. Despairing of ever being relieved, the rebels in Edinburgh had opened the city gates and threw themselves on the mercy of the English king. His patience somewhat stretched, Stephen had once again offered them all a pardon but inwardly vowed that any further rebellions would face swift justice.

In the darkened bedroom, Stephen turned from his thoughts to look back at the pale figure of his dead father. The spectre was sitting, bottle in hand, in an armchair; head drooping onto its shoulder and eyelids closed. God is merciful, mused Stephen, to have at least granted his father the same release after death that he had so sought in life.


[Out of character: more to follow; apologies to my future successor for slow progress in playing, work and domestic duties to blame - I'll be done by Saturday at the latest].

[Ryttare]

Everyone is writing so good stories that we will be able to make a book out of this =)
Waiting for the next aprt simon.

[chilling]

I think we should do this again but on game Total Domination game so the later kings have the fun of the final endgame trying to take the last few provinces without causing civil war.

[Alrowan]

nice story.. i would have spent more time on mine, but i had other pressing factors

i cant wait to hear what my 'weak' son can do next... and oh, ill be looking on, cursing your every victory

[econ21]

My lord, King Stephen, leader of the great English Empire, may I introduce to you, Herodotus, learned scribe from Alexandria proclaimed the herald.

Stephen watched the portly Greek waddle into the Court with bemused affection. Herodotus was famous throughout the West for his worldly travels and outlandish ideas. Some say he taught that life was but a game with a baton being passed from player to player through the generations. Stephen thought it was probably a mistake to grant the curious scholar an audience. He hailed from Egypt, England's main rival for power and undoubtably benefited from the Sultan's patronage. He was even rumoured to be a double agent acting also for the Roman Empire, on account of his Greek blood. But somehow, after the nightmarish apparition of the other night, Stephen felt compelled to give a public account of his first early years. (Herodotus had indicated that the interview would be transmitted throughout the world, although Stephen thought this idea far too fanciful.) Moreover, a conversation was a two-way exchange and Stephen hoped to learn more of the ominous events taking place far in the East.

After the usual formalities and pleasantries, the interview began in earnest.

I wonder how your majesty found the state of the great English Empire, on his ascension to the throne after his sorely missed father, may he rest in peace?, intoned Herodotus solicitously.

Some chance of the old devil resting in peace, thought Stephen remembering the visitation of the previous night. My father is doomed to wander the earth re-fighting conflicts old and new, he had concluded.

I saw the Empire was indeed vast and unrivalled in power, offered Stephen.

But...? queried the presumptuous Greek.

But the people were labouring under the cruellest taxes. Not levied by my dear father, may he rest in peace, possible as long as that incorporeal bottle keeps being refilled, chuckled Stephen, But by his faceless agents - callous calculating machines, automata without care for life or joy, who squeezed the poor until they were at breaking point. I viewed the revolt in Scotland as an omen, a sign that God would punish the Empire and rend it from within unless it turned from greed.

Most far-sighted and generous of you, your majesty commented Herodotus. But surely that left a most inconvenient shortfall in the Royal exchequer?

Watch it, thought Stephen, this information may be useful for the Greek's backers, whoever they may be:

My plan is to sponsor merchants to set up business in our coastal territories and to tax their lucrative trades, rather than the peasants working the soil, Stephen replied, but it was true his gold reserves had fallen precipitously from around 50000 florins to nearer 35000 in three short years.

Now he looked sharply at the rotund scholar, his piercing stare trying to communicate directly with the man's supposed sponsors:

This strategy, of course, depends on the continued goodwill of my friends, the esteemed Egyptian Sultan and the true Roman Emperor. War would be a disaster for all concerned, wrecking all chance of mutual prosperity.

Here Stephen smiled inwardly at the thought of the Egyptian Sultan lauding himself in Constantinople, while the so-called Roman Emperor wandered the steppes of Eastern Europe in a second exile. If it came to war, he would far rather it were the lightly armed Egyptians who were the more powerful, rather than the Romans with their legendary leaders, fearsome kataphractoi and awesome Varangian Guard. The cornerstone of Stephen's diplomacy was to be deterrence - averting war with either the Roman Empire or Egypt in order to allow sufficient trade income to fund the investment needed to develop his vast lands. To that end, he had ordered his long Eastern borders with the Romans to be reinforced and decreed that no trade ship should travel in waters shared by the potentially piratical Egyptians without a precautionary escort.

I have no wish to paint the map of Europe red. continued Stephen, before warning: Although I dare say, it would be well within the capabilities of my successors to do so should they choose. But no, my own rule shall be one of peaceful consolidation.

Most merciful Herodotus nodded unctiously, And wise, from such a legendary warrior. Stephen bristled: by God, this man was insufferable, with his scarcely veiled sarcasm

But the Italians, my Lord, they continue to vex you greatly? Herodotus pursued, recklessly.

It was true, Stephen had not the stomach for his father's ruthless policy of total war. The Pontiff had called Stephen's bluff, threatening him with excommunication unless he desist from his assault on the perfidious Italians. For a moment, Stephen - a man who scarcely pretended to have faith - had considered risking excommunication. For where were the Catholic nations who would heed the Pontiffs calls for crusades to punish the unbeliever? The French? Wiped out by King William III. The Danes and the Aragonese? Now forgotten victims of Edmund III. The Spanish? Gone, at the hands of King Richard. The Germans, Hungarians, Poles and Moors? All hunted down mercilessly by the vengeful King Edmund IV. Stephen shuddered as he considered the remorseless rise of his predecessors and the ruthlessness with which they had wiped out so many royal dynasties. His world somehow seemed emptier and poorer for their passing. Don't lament their passing too much, an inner voice told him, or they too may reappear to haunt you.

For his part, King Stephen had ordered his forces to storm the Italians besieged in Sardinia and Greece. The fortress at Sardinia had fallen at a terrible cost in English lives due to the absence of siege equipment, but the thought of the rebellion in Scotland and similar recurrences elsewhere stayed Stephen's hand from further blows and the prospect of excommunication. Ironically, the Pope had died the year after his excommunication threat - was that my father's doing? Stephen wondered, imagining the reaction of the frail and aged Pontiff to a visitation from the shade of the blasphemous inebriated old English King.

I wish only to separate our forces, to give time for cooler heads to prevail and peace to be restored. pronounced Stephen serenely, inwardly cursing the Italians for launching warships that had sunk an English fleet even as it departed the Italian territorial waters around Sicily.

Your majesty is indeed a pious man chanced Herodotus. Stephen suspected the Greek knew full well the scurrilous rumours that he wished to break from the Church in order to annul both his own marriage to a horse-faced English girl (could not his father have found him an exotic foreign princess?) and the bothersome marriage of his beloved Lady Marianne to Sir Courcy, first cuckold of the English Empire.

I humbly admit I have ordered churches to be erected in every province. Stephen pronounced. Although a man without a shred of piety, Stephen had been shocked by the absence of churches, even in favoured recruiting grounds, on his accession to power. Would not a man fight more bravely, believing in a glorious reward in an afterlife? For himself, after last night's encounter, Stephen heartily wished the dead remained rotting in the earth. But the prospect of further uprisings such as that in Scotland terrified him. If potential rebels could be assuaged with promises of a better life in the hereafter, he was damn well going to see they were so assuaged. Failing that he was going to recruit a legion of spies to pick out the troublemakers. Perhaps he should start by recruiting Herodotus, he mused, watching the cherubic Greek smiling serenely at him.

But Stephen was growing bored of this conversation and now impatiently turned to the Greek with the matter weighing heavier on his mind than even the awful burden of his father's legacy:

Tell me, learned scribe, what news from the East?

It seemed as if a chill wind swept through the old castle, as Herodotus paused to compose his words.

It is true what they say on the streets, your majesty, a terrible horde has descended on the Roman Empire, devouring all its in path.

Yes, yes, any fool knows that Stephen thought crossly. He had even sent Princess Matilda into the eye of the storm in Khazar. She had not been amused, to escape the knife of a Roman assassin only be sent to observe the tens of thousands of barbarians sweeping over the frontier of Christendom. I wonder if I can marry her off to the fellow leading those chaps? Stephen mused before taking pity on his much put upon sister. He stared, silently at Herodotus, as if to demand: tell me something useful, little man, and justify wasting my time.

Herodotus knew that he had to offer something to warrant this precious interview and so sat up self-importantly:

Great king, even now, the terrible Khan sleeps in Kiev.

Stephen also sat up, as if having been lashed again by his harsh father. Kiev? That was only one step from his border in the East. His spies had observed the army of the exiled Roman Empire and revealed it to be a sham, composed mainly of a ragbag of conscripted yokels armed with little more than pitchforks. They would not provide an obstacle for the massed heavy cavalry and horse archers of the Great Khan. What was worse, with its recent losses in battle and the squeeze imposed by the loss of tax revenue, the English army now was considerably smaller than when he had inherited it a mere three years ago.

The wind again wailed through the castle and Stephen thought that perhaps he could again hear his father's scornful laugh echoing around the keep.

I was looking through Simon's post (nice piece of writing) when I noticed that he could only identify Ryttare monarch as William III's son. What was your King's name, Ryttare?

[barocca]

hows goes this campaign??
(i wonder if there will be anything left for me to do when i am king??)

[Ryttare]

Let it be known that the third kings name was Edmund III

[econ21]

The chambermaid shuffled into the stuffy marquee. Lady Marianne had told her to get the letters at all costs and the chambermaid had only kept her privileged position at the Royal Court by obeying Lady Marianne in all things.

Even under the cover of the tent, the heat was stifling. No wonder the poor King had seized up and fallen silent so suddenly this eve. Still, she thought that at age 64, King Stephen had no grounds for complaint.

Well, perhaps only one: that he had not had a chance to see his only son grow into honourable manhood. What kind of leader the boy would have made, the chambermaid could not fathom but he must surely surpass the new King, Stephen's brother Henry. Henry was strange, spending his years locked away unmarried in a castle in Toulouse. He was known to engage in animated conversations when no person was around. When questioned, he claimed to be talking to the plants yet there were whispers that he was tormented by the restless spirit of his father, King Edmund IV. But however otherworldly the poor man seemed, it was unlikely that he would act only as Regent and instead was widely expected to reign on until he too left this world.

The chambermaid approached the old King's bed. Despite the suddenness of his death, he lay, eyes closed, oddly calm but sad; like a sombre child who has enjoyed his day but now sees from the darkening skies that it must end.

He had not been a bad sort, the chambermaid mused. Under his reign, taxes had been cut to manageable levels and indeed been ploughed back into the land, rather than fighting pointless wars. Ports throughout the English Empire bustled with the most developed trading network possible, although it was true that there were precious few trading partners left to do business with. Every province had a church and resident priests roomed the highways, passing on the good word from market town to sleepy hamlet. A magnificent builder, a magnificent steward and a trader, they used to call the old King.

The chambermaid spotted the small chest under the King's bed, but as she crouched down, she was startled by the noise of swiftly moving heavy steps. The knight was in the room before she could stand. He eyed her kneeling form suspiciously, but while opening his mouth to utter a challenge or rebuke, he paused. Perhaps the weary warrior recognised that fright on the poor woman's face was lined with duty, not greed. Perhaps he thought the old King unworthy of too much protection in death.

I wanted to see him; said the knight, To be sure.

The chambermaid noted the exhaustion on the man's face.

Sire, were you on the battlefield today? she inquired.

Aye he said, The desert does not need the setting sun to redden it this eve.

Was it as bad as they say? the chambermaid asked, feeling affection for this tired and thoughtful warrior.

Madam, you have never seen a more noble host as England summoned today. Chivalric sergeants who endured the mass of singing arrows of the infidels and marched on stolidly as the enemy's horses swept in and out, cutting up their formations but never breaking them. Who suffered the axes of those mighty warriors from Abyssinia...

He raised his head and looked into her eyes:

They will say the day was won by the charge of the late King and his small escort. Well, I'll not be denying it. I was at his side when we slew the Abyssinians and even took the life of the brave Egyptian general himself. But the price, madam, the price.

The battle of Tunis had been a close run thing. More Englishmen died in the attack than Egyptians. The army had been left exhausted on the field, reduced to half strength. But, by some mercy, the Egyptians had not pressed the battle and none of the many fresh enemy troops available had come to counter-attack. Perhaps it was the death of their general that had broken their spirit. The infidel died well, thought the knight, recalling the lone crescent banner fluttering for what seemed like an eternity amongst a sea of vengeful Englishmen.

The King had chosen to lead the battle himself, despite having delegated earlier defensive engagements in Algeria and the siege of Constantinople to far more able, indeed legendary English commanders. They say he wanted to prove himself to his son; perhaps part of him knew that this battle would be his last opportunity. Well, he had his costly victory and now England had taken the first steps towards finishing this war, begun by reckless Egyptian piracy.

News of the fall of Constantinople had arrived too late to reach the king before he passed away. There was a long road still to travel, but the knight was confident that it was a sure one. Even the Mongol horde, now dominant in the eastern lands beyond the English territories seemed a manageable threat. No doubt they would strike sooner or later, but they had dallied so long and still maintained peaceful relations, the knight felt confident England would rise to their challenge.

For all his passivity and vanity, the dead King had not left a bad inheritance, the knight mused.

Take the letters the knight told the chambermaid. Tell my wife, Lady Marianne, that her secret and the King's dies with him.


[Out of character: save game sent to Herodotus to forward to Muneyoshi; tga screenshot of my realm sent to Barocca to host.]

[barocca]

Simon, you want to email me state of the kingdom piccy and i'll post it,
barocca_x@hotmail.com
(see alowrans pic for size etc.)

also have you sent the save game to Muneyoshi and Herodotus??

[barocca]

Quote[/b] (Simon Appleton @ Feb. 07 2003,20:28)][Out of character: save game sent to Herodotus to forward to Muneyoshi; tga screenshot of my realm sent to Barocca to host.]
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great minds think alike, but, then fools seldom differ too..
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[barocca]

The Kingdom upon the tragic death of Simon Appleton aka King Stephen of England
http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_simon_map.gif

[Muneyoshi]

Wow, its going along nicely. I just hope im not the one who lets the empire crumble, lol. Anyways, just realized (with help from Simon) that I forgot to leave my email, well here it is yagyumuneyoshi@hotmail.com

[Herodotus]

Muneyoshi's reign is about to begin

[barocca]

Herodotus - (1087-1101) == ShadesWolf - William III (1101-1131)
http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_Herotodus.jpg == http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_ShadesWolf.jpg

Ryttare - Edmund III (1131-1171) == chilling - King Richard I (1171-1195)
http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_Ryttare.jpg == http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_Chilling.jpg

Alrowan - King Edmund IV (1195-1228) == Simon A. - King Stephen I (1228-1248)
http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_Alowran.jpg == http://www.totalwar.org/barocca/KOE_SimonAppleton.jpg

[barocca]

Muneyoshi,
how goes the campaign?

[eddie0909]

i what to be king http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[barocca]

and Muneyoshi,
please make sure i have a couple of assassins lying around, i want to do a little pruning :evil of the family tree and make sure my successor has a vibrant, usefull and young heir to finish the campaign with...
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[Demon of Light]

Someone might want to type out the revised list of future kings. This assumes, of course, the prescence of any enemies to fight at the end of Barocca's reign.

To all kings: What is the story with the Livonians? Are those rebels the same group that has been there since the beginning of the game? Has any faction ever fought them?

[ShadesWolf]

Awesome..........

This will make an excellent story http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

and a great addition to my web site

[Muneyoshi]

Sorry guys, been sick. Should be able to take over tommorow

[econ21]

Muneyoshi,
I hope you are feeling better. Take your time - I found turns took quite long to play out because the empire (I think we must call the kingdom that now&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif is so big; also you'll probably want to fight out some battles manually and I did leave you in the middle of a war with the strongest surviving faction, with the Mongols threatening a second front. Apologies and good luck
Simon

[Alrowan]

oopp.. sorry for leaving the large empire behind http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Ryttare]

*bump*

[chilling]

Why bump, it'll come back to the top when he's finished his go.



Ooops, did I just accidentally bump this topic. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Demon of Light]

Herodotus, ShadesWolf, Ryttare, Chilling, Alrowan, and Simon Appleton: Are those Livonian rebels the same ones that existed at the start of the game. Also, did any of you guys continue to play the game yourselves even after you passed the official reigns of power to your successor. It would be interesting to know what alternate realities are in existence.

[Kraxis]

Interesting point Light.

You could play on as a type of 'What if' for each reign... History unfolding many times over... Ahhhh

[Ryttare]

Muneyoshi>> stil sick?

[chilling]

I didn't touch the Livonians. I've still got the game saved where I stopped. I'm going to play it when I've finished my current campaign. Not that I think I'll get anything like the expansion that Alrowan achieved.

[Alrowan]

lol... the livs are actually tough, theyve got a large stack, and i think no-one really cares abou thier armies at all

[Muneyoshi]

No not still sick, just been a bit busy + lazy when im not busy. Though I did get in a few turns, and I figure I should be dead soon (In my early 60's if im not mistaken)

Anyways, who am I sending this to when im done?

[Siena]

here is some wonderful writing in this thread.
very nice.

[ShadesWolf]

How many players are there left ?

[econ21]

Muneyoshi, I don't know how to say this delicately and don't take this the wrong way and all, but I think that it is time you passed on ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif ... the game to Barocca, I mean. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

You've had two weeks and this idea is starting to lose momentum. If you are really busy, just play passive and autoresolve ... kind of reminiscent of the end of I, Claudius where the old Emperor plays Old King Log knowing that King Stork Nero is next in line.

Actually Simon, if the situation persists, you exclusively have the power to skip Muneyoshi. Muneyoshi's monarch is in his early 60's. Can you extrapolate how many turns he has played based on the age of the current king (Henry)when you(Stephen) died? That might give you an idea as to the pace Muneyoshi is playing at. If you still have the saved game file, you can just send it to Barocca.

This should not be interpreted as an attack on Muneyoshi. Being very busy is indeed a very good reason to be doing something other than playing games. If Muneyoshi would indicate that his game is proceeding, the modified coup d'etat I am suggesting becomes unnecessary.

As near as I can tell, the current list of future kings is as follows(based on interest and an actual, listed e-mail to which saved games can be sent):

Muneyoshi (CURRENT???)
Barocca
Efram da King
Keepah

Big King Sanctaphrax and Eddie 0909 indicated they were interested but left no e-mail. The list would be modified if they did so.

P.S: Someone(Cedrik) started a thread titled lets write a story about the ancient times where people are invited to pick up where their predecessor left off and then write your portion of the story (with a successor picking up where you left off) Sound familiar? There are many good writers here (nudging Simon, Alrowan et. al.) who might want to give it a shot.

[Muneyoshi]

Im actually done now, I just didnt know who to send it to

[Demon of Light]

Barocca is next and the e-mail is on the third page, 10 posts down.

[econ21]

Great - sorry to hassle you Muneyoshi. I know there are times when the greenbacks or the beloved have to take absolute priority over gaming. Will you have a chance to write up an account of your reign? I'm keen to know how the war with the Egyptians has gone and whether the Mongols are on the move. Somehow I care much more about this campaign than any I've played solo.

[Gregoshi]

You might have to make a slight adjustment in the lineup as Efram da King is currently in the dog house as far as posting here goes. His ban is only a week if I recall correctly, but his situation is fragile and in his hands.

As for eddie, he indicated he was over there with the Marines and as such has more important things to worry about than being King of England, let alone access to the game.

[HopAlongBunny]

Looks great

If you need a pinch-hitter for someone or a clean-up man for the end game let me know

lomowjg@telus.net

[Doge Enrico II]

I'll play. My email is Survivor2k4@aol.com

[econ21]

Barocca or Muneyoshi - has the game being swapped over? Any change of a screenshot and write-up?

[Demon of Light]

Efram da King did volunteer and left his e-mail on this thread. Restrictions on his ability to post would not effect his ability to receive and play the game. Even difficulties posting his reign could be solved if I were to post in his stead after receiving an e-mail from him. The problem arises when one considers whether or not he is still welcome to play by the monarchs that have reigned before him. As it is their game, it would appear to be their call. Here is my tentative solution together with a revised list of monarchs.

Muneyoshi( Unless and until Barocca affirms receipt of the game, Muneyoshi is considered current)

Barocca barocca_x@hotmail.com
Keepah keepah@hotmail.com
Efram da King eblack@idx.com.au
HopAlongBunny lomowjg@telus.net
Doge Enrico II Survivor2k4@aol.com

The tentative solution is to drop Efram down one slot so as to allow the dust to settle on whatever issues the moderators have with Efram and vice versa. If Efram posts here to protest before Barocca has finished his reign, then it can be assumed that the issues have subsided and that he is free to take the throne. Alternatively, he can e-mail me at albertmaldonado@yahoo.com to protest if he is unable to post. This is only a tentative solution at this point. In the abscence of opposition, it will carry full weight and be followed as stated. Any opposing should let themselves be heard.

[Demon of Light]

Bump

another thread asking for Muneyoshi, Simon Appleton and Barocca participation is in existance and seeks to move this idea along.

[econ21]

Demon of Light, just to confirm as I said in your related thread, I agree to act as you propose to keep this idea going.

[Demon of Light]

Dr. Appleton,

Thank you for your prompt reply. I am happy to see that you are on board (pun intended). I updated the related thread. What needs be said here is that Efram da King is no longer an option. He removed himself via e-mail earlier today.

[econ21]

OK, I've heard from Muneyoshi and he forgot to forward his save game to Barocca and no longer has it. I guess we figure we are coming out of the shower and his reign was just a dream or something. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

I've sent the savegame at my King's death to Keepah. If we don't hear from him within a few days, I'll send it to HopAlongBunny. I figure we can be relaxed about skipping non-responsive people so long as we give them the right to take over the reigns when they re-surface. It's just a game and we can be flexible, but Demon of Light is right, we need to build some momentum right now.

Good luck Keepah and hope to hear from you soon

[Doge Enrico II]

I'm still in.

[econ21]

This is getting complicated. I sent the savegame to Keepah but he has dropped out. He then told me the zipped savegame I sent him had a virus. I've scanned it with an up to date F-prot and Norton anti-virus and it gets a clean bill of health. But I've asked Keepah what his anti-virus was and whether he got an id on the virus, so I'll wait a day or two to hear before approaching the next person on the list, HopAlongBunny.

[Ryttare]

It sux that people cant respect others. As soon as i got my savegame sent to me i started playing and were done in a few hours...which everyone could have done that.

[chilling]

Must admit the momentum has fallen away abit. A shame really, I thought the idea had legs and would run through to an interesting conclusion. The alternative Medieval history of England was shaping up quite nicely too. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


If you want to send me that file Simon I'll look and see if it has a virus.

I'd say the next general on the list who replies wanting the game gets it next, if they agree to play it and pass it along.

[econ21]

Thanks, Chilling, that's a generous offer and I've taken you up on it. Keepah has not got back to me but in addition to my own anti-virus protection, I scanned my entire computer using a web based anti-virus software yesterday and it was clean. I'll wait to hear from Chilling and then contact HopAlongBunny offering him the savegame. Thanks again, Chilling.

[KukriKhan]

Absolutely fascinating thread. I hope it continues.

Demon of Light: my abject apologies for previously offering only token assistance in your registration dilema. I admit that, at the time, real-life circumstances had me swamped. Good to see you're up and running (and virtually running things http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) now.

[chilling]

The file is clean.

Let the game begin.

[HopAlongBunny]

I should be gtg whenever we get sorted out. Have a final on Tuesday but nothing else that could distract from important stuff http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KeePah]

Greetings all, I am sorry I haven't responded earlier. To much RL going on that keeps me busy. It was hotmail.com itself who said the file had virus, no explanation or anything it just said the file had virus.

So how goes the game? What year is it now?

Take care all






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[HopAlongBunny]

Hey KeePah http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

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I am guildless and usually penniless http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Alrowan]

what has my legacy done

[Marco]

Great idea guys.

Suggestion, maybe someone can play a really bad one and bring the empire tumbling down- will be a lot more interesting imo.

[KukriKhan]

Heh, sounds like a job for your humble moderator Marco. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif If we can sort out who has the last known-good copy of the campaign, I'd be happy to take a shot at it.

email: jim@jimcee.com

BTW, is anyone archiving the story/screenshot posts? Could make interesting reading when we're finished.

[Demon of Light]

KukriKhan: Don't worry about the registration thing. I figured out that the problem exists when I am at home but I experience no difficulties when I am at school.(someday, I'll e-mail Gregoshi and see if that, too, can be fixed) Anyhow, I maintain that you North County folk can't be bothered to help out us South County people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ( I live in Imperial Beach and go to Southwestern)

I assume that HopAlongBunny has the game at the moment. Most of the rest is a mess. We had four successive people unable to take the game for one reason or another. The list is as follows:

HopAlongBunny (Current??)
Doge Enrico II (Thanks for confirming that you are still in)
All those people who have been skipped go here
KukriKhan jim@jimcee.com

Of the people who have been skipped, Keepah goes first(because he just had an e-mail problem) Barocca second (if we ever see him again) Efram Da King would go down to the bottom if he changes his mind and Muneyoshi...well...we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.

Keepah: I'm not really sure where to put you or even if you still want the game. Chime in and let me know.

Dr. Appleton: Did you send the game to HopAlongBunny?(reread your post and his. Answer now known)

Alrowan: You have created the Huge Empire of Unwieldiness. But you did make total domination a realistic goal so hats off to you. That is your legacy in a nutshell. (ok, maybe not very comprehensive but this is a nutshell)

[econ21]

Ok, I think this thread is finally moving. I just sent the save game to HopAlongBunny. Keepah told me he is out, so after HopAlongBunny, it is Doge Enrico II and then Kukrikhan. We should let Barocca jump the queue of succession if and when he resurfaces.

[Demon of Light]

Excellent Go (or hop) HopAlongBunny

Question for all past Kings: Are there any generals or governers in this game that are particularly notewothy? I for one am curious to know if some 6 star general that Chilling liked ended up at the end of some Eqyptians pike during Dr. Appleton's reign. Or maybe some one's favorite 9 acumen governor become a Very Lazy Alcoholic with a Philosophical Bent.

[econ21]

Demon - there are about three REALLY impressive leaders, I think now immortal ex-Princes. They have about 7-8 stars and all virtues, no nasty vices. They put my pitiful 2 star King to shame, which is why it is fitting that he died after the one battle where he vainly rested control of the main army from a much worthier commander. (Drat, I could have written up my death like that of the villainous Emperor in Gladiator...). Funnily enough, they were all down to one man units when I inherited them (Alrowan must have worked them so hard&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif so I sent them for retraining. HopAlongBunny will find the last of them in the queue getting a refit in Poland right now.

I did not lose any good commanders, but I did not find that Strongbow Fitzherbert or whatever his name is. He normally pops up fairly early in English games with around 6 stars, and in my solo campaigns is an amazing asset. Maybe my predecessors pushed him too hard... Then again, eggs and omelettes, and all that...

[Demon of Light]

OK. Who among the rest of you got Strongbow killed? Did any of you happen to get de Montfort the Elder? I wonder if Miloslav Zakhariev is still in charge of Livonia?

[HopAlongBunny]

Just got in and looked at the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Impressive I have a very hard act to follow. War with the Egyptians? *gulp* I just love battling in the desert...really I do http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Write a final tomorrow and then am free and clear to give the game my undivided attn. Might do some housework moves before then...who knows I may be assassinated http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

[chilling]

Damn my campaign was dull. No good leaders, a nomark 2 star king just building, building, building.

I do love Mr De Montfort and his sons. My primary school was Simon De Montfort's so It's nice to see him in the game. He's a quality general too.

[Ryttare]

Hehehe chilling. All my strong princes died on the field, i had arranged for my king to do too but he just wouldnt die, he ended up with 10 in valour.

[Demon of Light]

Alrowan: Get any quality generals killed during your epic expansion?

[Herodotus]

My reign was also quite dull, going first and all. I suppose I should have thought more carefully about that and given it to someone else to start. But then you never know how it will go I suppose.

[Alrowan]

not that i can remember.. maybe one or two

[HopAlongBunny]

Henry I, did ascend the throne in 1248 AD.

With some trepidation and a host of advisors (seen and unseen) did I view what was before me. A wonderful campaign of advanced agriculture and husbandry had been started by my forebearer. Our forces were deployed to provide discomfort to the pagan Horde as well as continue war against the infidel. My only worry was the lack of an adequate minisrty to carry the Word to Infidel and Pagan alike.

The Italians did make war upon us in 1249. Their fleets were sunk and we satisfied ourselves with this small measure of vengance. The Pope was of course displeased, and we did not wish to cause his Holiness further pain.

The agricultural revolution started before my time was continued. The rich fields of Spain and Constantinople were developed; a process which will give us much benefit in the future.

Tunsia fell to our forces in 1251. This has bestowed not only rich lands but tradesmen most skilled in the manufacture of spears. Well and good For our troops needed replenishment, and I suspect the billmen produced here will equal our finest from Mercia for some while.

Just prior to my demise the people of Tuscany did take up the cross. I was amazed by the zeal displayed by these good men and swore that we should march to Antioch To this end were some light troops developed and staged in Tunis, alas that more preparation could not be made.

You may puzzle how this, a recap of my life and times, appears in the present tense. There are some advantages to being strange http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[HopAlongBunny]

The file is zipped and ready to go.

Who's next? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[econ21]

Good work, HopAlongBunny, can you post a screenshot of the world at the end of your reign?

Next on the list is:

Doge Enrico II Survivor2k4@aol.com

[HopAlongBunny]

File sent

I hope it was all done properly...Outlook drives me crazy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Does anyone know why it asks to make a contact profile everytime I want to send an e-mail? I think I have used the endless listing of ppl it asks me to register no more than once...what a pain http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Demon of Light]

I echo the call for a screenshot.
Doge Enrico II: Did you get the game? Is it playable?

HopAlongBunny: Keep the game file. As we learned with Simon, it might be necessary. I say that with all respect to Doge Enrico II, who was good enough to confirm his participation in the game a little while ago.

Herodotus: Maybe you should put yourself on the list. You might be interested in seeing how your kingdom worked out. In any event, I'm sure the game doesn't look at all like it did when your king died.

Chilling: You mentioned that you were making progress in the alternate reality version of England. Did you match Alrowan's expansion?

[HopAlongBunny]

This has likely been asked too many times but...how do i get a sreenshot of the whole map? All I get is whatever corner I'm in. If I could take a shot of just the corner map and blow it up, that would work nicely http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif (since that seems to display the stuff we want)

[Demon of Light]

I'm assuming from your post that you know which button to press for a screenshot. If you want to show us the map, it will have to be multiple screenshots. (Not TOO many though) Does your mouse have a roller? If so, use that to zoom out to maximum, hide the mini-map and take screenshots. I don't know how to zoom out wothout the roller but I'm sure there is a way. In the meantime, we'll settle for a picture of the minimap.

What year did Henry I die?

[HopAlongBunny]

Henry I, passed into oblivion in the year 1252. Twas an interesting 4 years...some say too short....Pah it was QUALITY time http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I downloaded paintshop7 trial version. That allowed me to cut the mini-map out from the TGA file. Have no idea how to post it though...I just downloaded it 15mins ago and have no idea how it works http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

[Demon of Light]

I do not know how to post an image. Maybe someone can volunteer to host yours. Any takers?

[econ21]

On screenshots, Barocca put mine up for me. Maybe you could contact one of the mods and see if they would oblige? Shadeswolf was an earlier king of England and was interested in the campaign - he posted on page 1 of this thread, so you should be able to e-mail him by clicking one of the options on his post. At some stage, he was talking about using some material from this campaign for his webpage.

Demon of Light: are you on the list of future kings? You've done a lot to revive this thread, so it sounds like you might be interested.

[Demon of Light]

I'd love to have the game but the two main obstacles to my getting it are an inability to unzip files and an unpatched version of the game. My brother wants the patch but is encountering difficulties with the download. So... unless someone can come to San Diego with their computer so as to allow me to play, I am not an option.

Current list is kinda short so I see where the need exists.

Doge Enrico Survivor2k4@aol.com
KukriKhan jim@jimcee.com

[Casca]

Just came back from Mexico to fix Lili's car, am now on my computer trying to be productive
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Demon of Light]

Speak of the Devil and he appears...

Allow me to introduce everyone to my brother, Casca.

Edit: Casca: I'm going to go to lunch with Jami. Te vemos a la casa.

[chilling]

Send me the picture to chilling@blueyonder.co.uk I'll post it up.

[Herodotus]

Remember guys this thread is about posting the stories of your reign. I'm not saying I disaprove of idle chatter mind you, I'm just reminding everyone to keep the good stories coming.

[chilling]

Here's the end of Hopalong's reign

http://www.chilling.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Henry.jpg

[HopAlongBunny]

Thank you chilling for hosting my map http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Doge Enrico II]

When I try to open the file it says invalid or corrput. Myabe I'm doing something wrong. I tried to open it outside of MTW first then it didnt show up on the load game menu either.

[Demon of Light]

Hmmm... I believe this is the time for uh oh. Can anyone help him here?

P.S: Thanks for popping in an letting us know what was up.

[Gregoshi]

Hmmm, some questions:

1) Was the file zipped when sent? Was it unzipped when received?

2) Was the save file put in the correct directory?

3) Doge, did you open the file with a program other than MTW? Another program such a Word might have changed the format of the file (word wrap hard a work).

[econ21]

Doge, if you are still having trouble, you could e-mail me the file at: simon.appleton@nottingham.ac.uk and I'll see if there is a problem with it. I'm no tech person, but it should confirm whether the problem is with the file or its use. regards, Simon

[HopAlongBunny]

The file was zipped with WinZip. No error reports when zipped; no apparent problems when sent...I'll unzip the copy I have and see if it works.

Unzipped to Total War\Save Games and ran without a problem; can send you the file again if you think that will help http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Doge Enrico II]

I couldnt open it in MTW could I? Go ahead and send it again.

[Doge Enrico II]

I couldnt open it in MTW could I? I tried to. Go ahead and send it again.

[HopAlongBunny]

Sent again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

When I opened it, I opened it under WinZip then dragged and dropped it from WinZip to Total War\SaveGames which I opened with Windows Explorer.

Hope it all goes well http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Doge Enrico II]

How did you get WinZip?

[HopAlongBunny]

Download it from Winzip (http://winzip.com)

For the amount I use it, I just download the evaluation version whenever I need it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Doge Enrico II]

Was the savegame prepatch or postpatch?

[HopAlongBunny]

Patched version. Don't know what it was when I received it, but I am running a patched version of MTW.

Still having difficulty? This is troubling...I would hate to think that somehow my participation has halted the advancement of the campaign http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Did you take Simon Appleton up on his offer to check the file over for you? I can't see what could be wrong with it.

[Doge Enrico II]

I unzipped it and it came up on the load game list and everything but when I tried to open it up the game crashed. I think its because I dont have the patch and I cant download the patch cuz evrytime I try the server resets it. What do you think?

[HopAlongBunny]

yuckers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Demon of Light]

Doge Enrico II: If you don't have the patch, you can't run this game. I know how frustrating that can be. I myself am having difficulties loading the patch and am thus ineligable for the game. My apologies but I think it time we send the game to KukriKhan.

HopAlongBunny: Unless you have an objection, I think that jim@jimcee.com is the game's next destination.

P.S to Doge Enrico II: All this (skipping you) means is that I believe you need a little time and help to download the patch. When you do that, your up next.

[econ21]

Doge, I think Demon of Light may be right. You can always come back on board if you manage to patch the game.

I am not sure what the problem is with getting the patch. One problem I used to have with large downloads with a telephone internet connection was disconnections resetting the whole download. One thing I found overcame this problem was a package such as MyGetRight that allows you to continue downloads that have been interrupted. It's free and very easy to use. If you are interested, you could go to google.com and do a search for it. (It's a download itself, of course, but not a big one, IIRC).

The patch is very definitely worth getting irrespective of you wanting to rejoin this game.

Alternatively, some PC games include patches on cover CDs - you could keep an eye out for them and maybe post a thread asking about this in the Entrance Hall.

[KukriKhan]

Eagerly awaiting the game. Doge Enrico II, if you like, I could burn a copy of 'the patch' to CD & snail-mail it to you. Just send your address to jim@jimcee.com . Heck, I guess I could even squeeze WinZip on there, and/or anything else you need. Ditto for Demon of Light.

[Doge Enrico II]

I understand, I was gonna say go ahead and skip me. Is there anyway someone could email the patch to me? If not, Kukri I'll send you my address.

[KukriKhan]

Sorry 'Rico2, I tried to email it as an not-zipped .exe file(it's 8.4MB)but my mail server (Cox cable) timed out after 7 minutes. I expect AOL wouldn't allow that large an attachment, anyway. Looks like snail-mail is the way to go.

UPDATE: I did get WinZip sent to Doge Enrico II, but my zipped (still 6.6MB) patch file never made it off my stupid server. Hopefully, HopAlongBunny's made it.

[HopAlongBunny]

Okay file on its way to jim@jimcee.

I tried to zip and send the patch; guess it didn't work...may still be in transit, it took long enough to leave my machine http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Zipped King on its way http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[KukriKhan]

Received & playable. Thanks H-a-B http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Progress report tonight.

[Doge Enrico II]

I recieved the patch from HAB and winzip from KK. Thanks.

[Doge Enrico II]

HAB, how do I move the game to another file? Excuse me, but I'm new to computers.

[Doge Enrico II]

I downloaded the patch from totalwar.com. Demon of Light, the trick is to close it every ten percent or so and then start it again and keep doing that. I'm after KukriKhan, right?

[KukriKhan]

Good job 'Rico. You're next. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

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Iç seah ðone mann së is göd cyning.
I saw the man - the good king.

Thus spake the elders, bishops, and other honorable men, of my father. God willing, may they speak it of me.

I am Edward III, son of Henry, grandson of Stephan, of the Greater English Empire (GEE). It is the year of our lord 1253, and I have just ascended the throne, after the short but fruitful reign of my father. Although I am but 17 years, I have been groomed for this destiny my entire life, besting many men in jousting tournaments - then drinking them under the table at the victory feasts. My father had not yet arranged my marriage, but the need for heirs is imperative, so I shan't await a pliable foreign princess, but instead select an exotic Tuscan maiden, sure to enhance our lineage.

The world has changed since my grandfather's time: in a distant heathen land called Nippon, nobles called 'Shogun' rule the land, dispossessing their Emporer; the York treaty, delineating the boundary between England and Scotland was signed; John of Halifax, the mathematician, introduced the decimal system just this year; and Henry of Bracton has begun codifying our up-to-now unwritten English laws and tradition, writing:

To rule well a king requires two things, arms and laws, that by them both times
of war and of peace may rightly be ordered. For each stands in need of the other,
that the achievement of arms be conserved [by the laws], the laws themselves
preserved by the support of arms.2 If arms fail against hostile and unsubdued
enemies, then will the realm be without defence; if laws fail, justice will be
extirpated; nor will there be any man to render just judgment.....

Our treasury is healthy, with over 66,000 florins from farming, trade and mining - and a 17.5 thousand florin annual income (you see how I have adopted Sir John's decimal system?). My sisters Elizabeth (23) and Helen (20) languish in Algiers - I must attend their marriages soon.

I see my immediate mission as 3-part:
1) consolidate our holdings, pursuing an alliance with His Holiness Pope Gregory; building churches and town guards where they are lacking; upgrading farming inland, trade along coastlines.
2) put down that Italian apostate Enrico II, by means of my best 3 assassins (of course, I shall feign surprise, deploring the act), and
3) prepare for the conquest of the middle-east, converting the Egyptian heathen, or conquering him when Satan makes him resist - I especially have my eye on the rich trade available in Antioch, Edessa, and Tripoli; we own the seven seas, but I shall insure we are prepared for any naval conflict that threatens our trade routes.

By the grace of God most holy, may I, we, and all England, succeed and prosper. Long live England

[HopAlongBunny]

e-mailed some directions; hope it reads clearer than I think it does. if you need anything cleared up e-mail me back http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

lomowjg@telus.net

[Demon of Light]

I started a thread the other day looking for prospective monarchs. We got two new heir apparents. The list is now as follows:

KukriKhan - Current King (Emperor) of England
Doge Enrico II Survivor2k4@aol.com
Dramicus dragonsythe@hotmail.com
Shand994 simon@rma.com.au

KukriKhan: I'll e-mail you to take you up on your offer.

[Robin of Loxley]

I would like to join I would have posted on the main hall thread but i just signed up for the board. my email is ftrain98@earthlink.net

[Doge Enrico II]

Welcome to the .org and to our game, Rob, if I can call you that.

[Robin of Loxley]

thanks, i just hope i'm not to late to fight the khan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Dramicus]

now, what happens if one were to, oh lets say..... allow the empire to crumble? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

just wondering......

[chilling]

I guess pointing and laughing wouldn't be out of the question. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Gregoshi]

Welcoming Robin of Loxley, take 1 - ready and Action

Greetings Robin of Loxley. You say you Sherwood like to join the game...

Cut Everybody, take 10. Who is writing these lines? Fetch the head writer - no, wait, just fetch his head... Okay, places everybody, this is take 2. Ready, aaaaannnnnddddd ACTION

Greetings Robin of Loxley. Welcome to the 'hood...

Cut I need aspirin Re-write... Okay, let's try this again. Take 3 Ready, aaaaannnnnddddd ACTION

Greetings Robin of Loxley. Joining the campaign at this point with so little left to conquer is kind of like pissing in a Little John...

CUUUUUT The head writer is a dead man He'd better be on a plane to China or I ain't responsible for his death No jury would convict me once they heard these lines... This i-i-is take 4? Wh-what do I do? Say action? Okey-dokey, action...zzzzzzzz

Greetings Robin of Loxley. Thanks for joining the Org and signing up to be King of England.


http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Sorry Robin, but I do whatever it takes... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Cut...

[Dramicus]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Mar. 10 2003,23:04)]...Joining the campaign at this point with so little left to conquer is kind of like pissing in a Little John...
well, that wouldent be so if one were to, oh lets say... allow the empire to crumble... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Gregoshi]

There is a hidden message in your last two posts, isn't there Dramicus? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Demon of Light]

KukriKhan: Something to keep in mind: William Wallace revolted in 1297(I think). You will likely be the King around this time if you want to see him.

[Robin of Loxley]

does the game have historical revolts like that?

[Dramicus]

I dont know, but if one were to, oh lets say..... allow an empire to crumble....

we might then see some revolts.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KukriKhan]

Thanks for the tip DoL, if Edward survives that long, he should be thoroughly corrupted by power by that date.

A funny little guy in a brown robe delivered this today; drank all my beer, belched & wandered off singing about merry men:
====================================================
Lords and Ladies, honorable Noblemen, esteemed Clergymen, and citizens of the realm:

This is the year 1256. In the 3 short years since we assumed the throne, much has happened.

His Holiness Pope Gregory consented to an alliance with us. He now beseiges the Italian Enrico in Naples, 'Rico having been distracted by our sadly unsuccessful assassins in 1254 (so our loss was our ally's gain). God willing, Naples should fall in 2 years, causing Sicily (Enrico's only other holding) to fall to the rebels. We plan to bring English leadership and order to Sicily when that happens.

The Mongol savages have remained neutral, no doubt daunted by the massed English troops at their borders. We plan to pursue a policy of containment on that eastern border, expecting probe attacks within a short time. We have dispatched English Catholic clergy to the Mongol borderlands to assist in a future christian uprising against these barbarians, followed by English soldiers and English justice.

The Egyptian Jihad against Constantinople has failed repeatedly, limping back to Trebizond each year a bit weaker in the face of superior English strength. A Trebizond rebel army of superior numbers will engage that Jihad soon, no doubt defeating it and offering another jewel for the English crown.

When we assumed the monarchy, the Egyptians had massed troops at Cyrenicia, Trebizond and Nicea...but had neglected to fortify the center of their unholy empire. To distract those forces, we sent 2 armies to attack the Sultan, subsequently chasing him out of Sinai, Palestine, and Tripoli; meanwhile closing his back door (Antioch). He now sits with 800 men in Syria licking his wounds, while we consolidate our hold on those provinces. God bless the English navy, built up by my forebearers; it allows us to freely deploy our forces where necessary, as well as increasing our treasury (now standing at over 100 thousand florins, with 24,000+ coming in annually).

In a glorious defensive battle, our outnumbered Tunisian garrison soundly defeated the invading Egyptian forces from Cyrenicia, their routing army rebelling against their masters in the end. A survivor of the Almohad dynasty has arisen there this year. We shall contain them, while determining their intentions after defeating the former Egyptian rebels.

The Almohad re-emergence and Egyptain rebellions reminded us of the liklihood of other factions rebelling/re-emerging. To plan for such unfortunate events, we have embarked on a campaign in our homelands and recently conquered lands to increase loyalty to nearer the 150 mark, building up border forts, urban militias and churches there, as well as aiming for agricultural and trade parity among provinces. We hope that any Spanish, French, German, or other surviving factions shall have to re-emerge in rebelling Egyptian provinces only, there to face a hostile Mongol army across their border and muslim insurgents within.

By the grace of God: England forever
==============================================

P.S. Our Gregoshi could pursue a gig on the Tonight Show, non?

[Demon of Light]

Just a note to all: I started a thread exclusively dedicated to the reigns of the Kings. Don't be afraid to post your reigns here. In fact, I encourage it. I am usually hanging around here so I'll pick up your post from here and drop in the other thread. I just wanted to post the reigns in an uncluttered format.

[Gregoshi]

Kukri and I can help keep that thread clean. Any off topic posts their we can either delete or copy to this thread.

[Demon of Light]

Thank you sir. Much obliged.

[Dramicus]

this is an off topic thread, eh?.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

sooo....

errm...

hey.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

[KukriKhan]

Out-of-character Update (to keep this & DoL's other thread alive):

It's 1276. Egyptians are gone. At war with the Mongols, but attriting them, instead of conquering them (gotta leave something for the next King, right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ). Gave up Tuscany, Naples, Venice & Croatia to the Pope - guess he just wants his 'share' of the booty (he invades, I abandon, he sues for peace; rinse, lather, repeat).

Almohads in Cyrenicia, neutral. Russians try to re-spawn in Finland, but fail yearly. Byzies (at war) have Rhodes and Crete - we took Cyprus. Sicilians sit nuetral on Malta, we have Sicily (but I expect the Poper to want that next).

I plan to slow the military buildup of the past 10 years (necessary for the Egyptian campaign) and work more on the alliance/subterfuge tactics.

We have 2 heirs, 2 princesses, 80K florin, 2K annual income, empire-wide loyalty approaching 150.

Here's the mini-map:

https://jimcee.homestead.com/files/empire1276.jpg

Will play until Edward dies, then send the game & write up a final wrap-up. It's been a blast http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Striker]

Great news. I've been following this thread avidly and it's good to hear that it's still going.

However with the current lineup... I doubt there's going to be anything left to do for me if I sign up... That is, unless some king were to, oh, perhaps, allow the empire to crumble...

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif @ Dramicus

I doubt he'll actually do it, but he might, so what the heck, I'd like to be put on the list. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

striker336@hotmail.com

[Demon of Light]

Striker: And it gets worse for you. I placed a recruitment thread in the Main Hall and ... well... after Robin of Locksley there is Tigger, Big King Sanctaphrax and Sainika. Don't give up hope yet though. Keep in mind that we could have another Muneyoshi/Barocca/Efrem da King/Keepah string (all were consecutive on the list and none took the game) and that would make you an option again. In any event, I think I might start a new campaign if there is anyone left on the list.

[Demon of Light]

HopAlongBunny: So is Edward Henry's son or Stephan's? Hell, you might not know if you are assuming that Henry came with that son. How did your alternate reality turn out?

Dr. Appleton: Who is Edwards father? (for God's sake don't say Darth Vader&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Striker]

Demon of Light: Guh. Oh well... I posted on the Spanish campaign thread too, and the guy there seems to want to make another game like this. *Shrug* I'll get into some kind of campaign.

[Demon of Light]

List:
KukriKhan - Current King (Emperor) of England
Doge Enrico II Survivor2k4@aol.com
Dramicus dragonsythe@hotmail.com
Shand994 simon@rma.com.au
Robin of Locksley ftrain98@earthlink.net
Tigger daveymiller01@yahoo.co.uk
Big King Sanctaphrax
Sainika
Striker

[Dramicus]

hehe, should read:

List:
KukriKhan - Current King (Emperor) of England
Doge Enrico II Survivor2k4@aol.com
Dramicus dragonsythe@hotmail.com - Destroyer of Worlds
Shand994 simon@rma.com.au
Robin of Locksley ftrain98@earthlink.net
Tigger daveymiller01@yahoo.co.uk
Big King Sanctaphrax
Sainika
Striker

*whistles innocently as he walks away*

[Demon of Light]

You are become Shiva?

[KukriKhan]

1299: Ed Dead. Long live Richard II. File zipped & sent to 'Rico. Final report tonight. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[econ21]

Well done, Kukrikhan. I was interested to hear from Demon of Light that you were my son. I take paternal pride from your magnificent accomplishments I can see the English painting the entire map red with little difficulty now.

[KukriKhan]

Heh...Thanks Pappy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif May your grandson do us proud

I can't get Homestead to grab my PSP7 images yet, so I'm sending the following without the graphics; I'll catch up the piece when I get my web images uploaded.
=========================================

....Right you are, Wolf. This is Christianne Amanpour, Medieval Network News, with an exclusive interview with the ailing and elderly King Edward the Third of England, de-facto Emporer of Greater Europe, from the British Isles in the west, to Poland in the east, the Spanish subcontinent to the south through the former Egyptian and Byzantine Empires in the eastern Mediterranean.

CA: Your Highness, we are acutely aware of your frail health. We've just watched Bishop Longchamp administer Extreme Unction - the last rites. May we ask some questions of you, to clarify your legacy?

ERIII: *gurgle*

CA: Your Highness?

Bishop Longchamp: His Highness has ordered that I answer in his stead, during this, his hour of extemity.

CA: Very well your Eminence. Firstly, is the royal line secure? Has an heir been designated?

BL: Trusted couriers are speeding now to Good Prince Richard, currently doing the King's bidding in Toulouse.

CA: Will Richard continue the policies and objectives of Edward?

ERIII: *gulp*

BL: Prince Richard has vast experience throughout the realm, having led the successful crusade to Cyrenacia, and put down Mongol incursions in Georgia. He knows our friends, and our enemies...and he has met with most of the provincial governors and generals. He is as beloved by our subjects as Edward himself. We expect that Richard will continue Edward's good work as Defender of the Faith, Guardian of the Realm, and Scourge of the Barbarian.

CA: Where are the trouble spots?

BL: The Mongols are always worrisome, of course, and the re-emergence of the Byzantine royal line in Crimea and Crete bears watching. Likewise, when Edward consented in 1277 (with Papal prodding) to cede Corsica and Sardinia to a long-lost Italian heir of Enrico II, we rejoiced in the opportunity for new trade and good relations. However, the Doge has rebuffed repeated offers of alliance, as have the Sicilians on Malta. We suspect they may yet harbor ancient resentments at the loss of their ancestral lands. We also note with some alarm, the recent rapid increase of Italian military forces and wonder at their intentions. Their utter defeat by Papal forces in 1266 on the Italian mainland may not have totally exorcised their heretical, aggressive ways.

CA: Why DID Edward bow so readily to Pope Gregory's commands and desires?

ERIII: *gasp*

BL: Frankly, having seen the consequences of excommunication (catholic rebellion, faction reemergence, et cetera), Edward decided to accomodate His Holiness's holy desires, and to account for them as England's tithe to Mother Church, and to achieve the sanction of the Almighty in England's endeavors; especially in the Holy Land and apostate orthodox lands of the East. Hence his acquiesence to Pope Gregory's 'request' for Tuscany, then Genoa, then Venice, then Croatia, and his gracious consent to the emergence of the Italians. Such decisions also allowed Edward to concentrate the realm's efforts on building up the agricultural, military, trade, and clerical aspects of his homelands. *Snap* Scribe The economies parchment

CA: Impressive, your Eminence. Edward has come a long way from the gangly, some said 'arrogant drunkard', 17 year old he was at his coronation.

ERIII: *hic*

BL: A long way, indeed. *Snap* Scribe The historical progression maps

CA: Bishop Longchamp, is there anything King Edward would have done differently?

ERIII: *wheeze*

BL: Edward regrets that wars and diplomacy distracted his attention from the Royal Navy, who served so well in his conquest of the Middle East and former Byzantine lands. They were next on his list of modern improvements, right after the consolidation of his armies & their redeployment to the Mongol borderlands.

CA: Anything else?

BL: Had he the time, Edward would have upgraded the forts, castles and other symbols of English power throughout the realm. His soldiers and people have worked hard during his reign, and they deserve the best.

ERIII: *gargle*......MEAD My kingdom for a flagon of MEAD

BL: Perhaps we should end...

CA: ...this interview. We've been speaking to Bishop Longchamp on the demise of Edward III, King of England. Christianne Amanpour, on the front lines in Poland, for MNN. Back to you Wolf.

ERIII: *glug*glug*glug*...ahhhhh...

ERIII: erg.......... *plop*

============================================
Again, you can see where the mini-maps, etc go. I'll plug them in ASAP. ~Kukri

[Demon of Light]

So... Does that mean that Doge Enrico II will be fighting Doge Enrico II on his campaign as Richard II? (Awaiting Doge Enrico's acknowledgement of receipt.)

[KukriKhan]

That would have been too cool, yes? Unfortunately, Doge Enrico II, with whom both England & the Papacy were at war when Edward assumed the English throne, was attcked by Pope Urban III in Naples in 1255, then seiged until his death in 1258. So 'our' Doge Enrico II missed his namesake by one generation.

'Rico2's undetected escaped relative Doge Vitale IV, and his son Prince Orso (3***) re-emerged as rebels, then their true selves, in Sardinia & Corsica (with 76K good men) in 1277. England's Edward (me) destroyed everything on those islands except agriculture & ports, to deter his aggression.

I too am eager to hear if the zipped game 'made it'. It was under 1MB, and I worry about his AOL ISP letting it through. I sent it Monday at 10:30 a.m. his time (0730 PST).

[Demon of Light]

I'm thinking a time limit is an order from now on. I'll say one week to acknowledge receipt and failure results in being bypassed. I propose that if Enrico has not shown up by Monday that the file be sent to Dramicus Tuesday. Any objections? Anyone think this is a bad idea?

[Doge Enrico II]

Winzip says the file is invalid, KK. Send it again.

[Demon of Light]

Sorry if I appear to be hassling you Doge Enrico II. Thanks for dropping in.

[Dramicus]

lol

well, we will soon need a few more brave kings to rule after Englands new Dark Age.......


MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*cough*

errm, damn throat....

*chuckles*

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Demon of Light]

New rule: If Dramicus reduces the size of the Greater English Empire to a handful of under-garrisoned provinces, we'll call his reign a bad dream. Either that or we'll beg Alrowan to return to the throne and re-pacify Europe. (said with all repect to the Destroyer of Worlds http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif ) I was hoping to see you Dramicus. Any chance you can send Doge Enrico II a game? Doesn't matter what game you send; I want to see if Doge Enrico II's difficulties extend to ANYONE who tries to send him a game. If he can receive and play whatever game you send him, then we know that the problem is on Kukri's end.

[Dramicus]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ Mar. 20 2003,16:43)]New rule: If Dramicus reduces the size of the Greater English Empire to a handful of under-garrisoned provinces, we'll call his reign a bad dream.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

how could you ever suspect me of attempting to plunge the empire into darkness? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

But yes if it does come to such a situation... ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ).... I suggest we get a return from one of our best rulers....


(on a side note, what would be so bad about seting the country back a little? It would let the game last longer and be cause for more entertainment..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif )

[KukriKhan]

Game re-sent. 754KB.

Also sent to Dramicus, as an experiment.

[Dramicus]

uhh, the one I got is 1350 something K.....

just wondering If I should dl it or not..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[Dramicus]

on a side note, the save works fine.....

[KukriKhan]

5.4MB is about the unzipped size. It arrived that big? So it works?

[Dramicus]

well, when I say the save works I would be pretty sure that it does.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KukriKhan]

Just clarifying. Great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

So: no insult intended to Doge Enrico II, but maybe some instruction is in order:

1) receive the mail. Double-click the attachment; WinZip mini-window should come up
2) click thru the unzip menu's on WinZip, until another window opens showing the .cpg file
3) STOP
4) Open Windows Explorer (Start>Programs>Accessories>Windows Explorer)
5) Inside WindowsExplorer,Click 'My computer'; then your C: drive>Program files>TotalWar>MedievalTotalWar>SavedGames
6) STOP
7) Remember that little window showing the .cpg file? Find it
8) Left-click and hold the .cpg file & drag to the right-hand side of Windows Explorer that shows all your saved games. Drop the file (let go of the left mouse button).
9) You're golden. Close WindowsExplorer, WinZip & the mini-window that held the .cpg file.
10) Fire up MTW. Do the usual 'single player' & 'load game' parchments...a new saved game called 1299EdDeadRichIIRule should be listed. Play & make us proud. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Dramicus]

errm, Enrico , you still into this? Not being impatient or anything, but it would be a shame if we had to skip past you...

in other words:

BUMP

[Doge Enrico II]

Just go ahead and skip me, Dramicus.

[Demon of Light]

Ok...Dramicus is now the Crumbler of England Sorry it didn't work out for you Doge Enrico II. Maybe Dramicus can ship you a game to see if you can open it.

[Dramicus]

I have just finished playing and all I can say is Oh Man...

Ill get a story up soon, but dont worry, the game is still playable and light, about the provinces being few and undergarrisoned.... lets just say that there few....

I swear, the next person to open the save and see will literally yell out HOLY MOTHERF%*#ING SHT

then they will wet themselves by laughing too hard, then the will realize what has happened..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I SAY AGAIN the game Is still VERY playable, man the next person to get this PLEASE put a screen shot of the interesting thing before you alter anything

lol....

[Dramicus]

alright, Im having a slight problem, the zipped file is 1.29 mb, thats using winrar, the only email I have is using hotmail, they want it smaller then 1024 kb is there any way I can compress it any more?

[Demon of Light]

Get a Yahoo account. Mail.yahoo.com

I am fairly certain it will accomodate the size of the file you are sending. Last I checked it will accomodate up to 1.5 megabytes

[KukriKhan]

Alternatively (or in addition to DoL's suggestion) download WinZip here:
http://www.winzip.com/ddchomea.htm
it should compress the savegame to under 1MB.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif I can't wait to see what Dramicus has done. If you send me a screenshot jim@jimcee.com I'll post it here for you.

[Dramicus]

ARRR

win zip doesnt get it smaller, infact it makes it 600kb bigger....

god damn yahoo gives a fricken page cannot be displayed error every time i try to sign up.... is there some other mail service or anything??

[Demon of Light]

Once you have the game back to 1.29 MB, I believe that a yahoo e-mail account will be able to handle it. The url is mail.yahoo.com. Disregard if you already tried Yahoo

click
here (http://mail.yahoo.com)

[Dramicus]

alright, I had to use extreme measures but I finally did it.... KukriKhan has it now and can send it to the right person, its out of my hands now and I hope it stays that way.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

hehehe, now cant wait to see his reaction....

[Demon of Light]

I can't wait for you to write about your reign

[Dramicus]

Ill do that some time this week probably, alot of stuff happened while I was ruling, (not all bad...)

edit: Ill let you guys gawk over the screen that khan will provide..... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KukriKhan]

I'll let Dramicus (aka Richard II, my illegitimate son) explain; maybe the mini-maps speak:

1256, Edward's 3rd year of reign:
https://jimcee.homestead.com/files/1256.jpg

1299, Edward dies, Richard II (age 43) begins:
https://jimcee.homestead.com/files/1299.jpg

1335, Richard II expires:
https://jimcee.homestead.com/files/1335.jpg

My son, my son...where did I fail? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

===========================
So Shand994 is next...do you have WinZip or WinRar to unzip the 1335 savegame?

[Gregoshi]

Smelling salt for Shand994 please. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Elwe]

Well, well.. and you managed that in a mere 36 turns... Impressive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Cheer. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[shand994]

Sorry people hadnt been following this thread for a while.
i got the email from kukrikhan. Will update shortly

[shand994]

geez i just saw the screenshots of what im facing, its not looking good, i hope youre not all expecting a miracle from me.

[KukriKhan]

Heh, yup Dramicus left you in quite a pickle, Henry II (aka shand994): plenty of troops, a worldwide navy, but rebels everywhere.

Go East young grandson, Go East http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

ps: I can host your screenshots as necessary, if you need.

[shand994]

Will start my reign tonight when i get home from work, will prolly play all the way through tonight so i might have some info for you all tomorrow, I think i can handle, have had many a campaign turn out this way. I may just buy them all back if income allows, depends on the armies at my disposal i suppose.,

[Demon of Light]

Damn... that is painful to look at...the reconquest alone will likely destroy many buildings.

[Demon of Light]

Shand994 Current Ruler
Robin of Locksley ftrain98@earthlink.net
Tigger daveymiller01@yahoo.co.uk
Big King Sanctaphrax robw123uk@yahoo.co.uk
Sainika
Striker

[Dramicus]

dude get a shot of england up lol....

[Dramicus]

Quote[/b] (shand994 @ Mar. 26 2003,00:43)]...depends on the armies at my disposal i suppose....
lololol

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.....

LMAO






*cough*....


hehe, just take a look a england......

and someone PLZ get an unaltered shot of england&normandy up for all to see.... lol http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif



edit: dont buy any back.... just use your army (if you can call what I left you that... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) to take em back by force... it will be alot more fun that way....

and leave some provinces for others

[Demon of Light]

Shand is going to have to work double time if he wants to make up for half of what you lost. I hardly think that carving his way through all those rebels is the best way to regain all that lost territory. Besides, a few of those provinces are bound to have good generals. When you said you'd crumble the empire I thought we might lose 1/4 or 1/3 of our territory. I didn't figure we'd lose 75%. Richard II will doubtless go down in history as the single worst English monarch in history. (but that's what you were shooting for right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

[Dramicus]

lol, you just wait untill someone posts a pic of how I left england.... lol, just wait till you see it..... lol....

[shand994]

OK all i can say, What the F**K were you doing
Yeh i didnt have to worry about buyoing any of them back, after one turn the bank went into negative balance, its now at -1500000, but on the other hand i won back most of germany, france, italy and spain. I think the game might be a lost cause though. as no matter what i did there were that many armies on the map that the treasury just kept going down, even though after tonnes of battles, half the armies were destroyed. UI basically won back eaurope through attrition. my reign lasted from 1335 to 1350 before the I was killed in battle, upon my death the empire was plunged into civil war. I think the next person will have a hell of a bad time. The only thing on your side is that most of your enemies are peasant rebel armies, or low tech ones.
Who do i mail it to next. Will have screenshots for you all tomorrow, forgot to bruing them today.

[Demon of Light]

Damn... I don't know if it is better to let this continue as is or stop the progress and have Shand994 play Richard II's reign over. At 1.5 million florins of debt, I doubt anyone will be able to build anything for the rest of the game.

Dramicus: Making the game more interesting was certainly acceptable. Driving a wrecking ball through the game was not. If the game was left unplayable and it was intentional(your posts indicate it was at least your intent to weaken the English) then I'd suggest we use the Bad Dream clause I mentioned earlier. For the record, I'm inclined to believe you really did think the game was playable and that you overlooked the fiscal drain involved in leaving a huge army around after you destoyed the infrastructure supporting it. I guess Shand is in the best position to know (unless you or Kukri played the game to a happier conclusion)so...

Shand994: Did the game in the form you recieved it represent an unwinnable situation?

[Dramicus]

well, I did overlook the fact that the massive forces left over would put such a dent in the economy....

but still someone get a pic of what I did.... pleeeeaaasee http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[shand994]

Demon

In my opinion, the game was unmanageable, I didnt build a single thing the whole time i played, true i won back a lot of provinces, but to me it was pointless as all i was doing was placing that many armies in each provinve the enemy just retreated and i waited until the castle fell to my troops. basically even though England had the highest income, i was still losing upwards of 20000 a turn, there was very little i could do. I suppose i could have disbanded all the armies that had been created, but i didnt feel like sitting there for an hour and going through that process. In my opinion, while what Dramicus did was funny to begin with and may have been fun and unintentional, he has pretty much made the game a lost cause, I dont think anyone could bring the game back from where it is without Spending a hell of a lot of time rescuing it. To me i dont see the point in playing the game when its at the stage its at, theres no enjoyment to it.

This is my opinion.

[Dramicus]

well, to start it was not my intentin to ruin the game and if you want to ignore what I did then fine....


Just someone get a screen shot of what england looked like