Mongol Cav.A must?

[HATAMOTOKILL]

Of course Magykhanis the master of horses,but how can u counter the speed and awesome power of these unit?Surely Magy will be even more awesome with these units at his beck and call... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gifOther cav units in X-Pack but is haveing MC a must?What sort of honour do MC carry,does it affect another units morale when faced against it?Like guns do in STW!Anybody show some light on this?...... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif

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Hato!!!
Knight Owltwwooo!!!
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[Vanya]

Ah... the power of gold-plated, max honored crossbow units with triple-chromed daggers! Therein lies your answer.

As you can never hope to compete with the Mongols in speed, you must do so with discipline and firepower. Get cute with these bastids and you will be chasing Elmo off the map (*not* that you'd ever catch him...)!


"No army has ever stood up to a charge of heavy horse!" says the increduluous bastid.
"Hmmm. We shall build spears... lots of them. Make them twice as long as a man!" says the undisputed leader of the rabble.
"How long is that? Some men are longer than others...?" comments the increduluous bastid.



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[Yoko Kono]

OI!
watch it vanya
you make take our lives but you`ll never dishonor our HERO!!!!!!!
what i want to know vanya, is, would u be willing for one chance, just one? to trade all the days from this day to the day BEFORE you first played STW to tell that shopkeeper he may take your money but he will never end your social life

SHOGUN!!!!!!!!
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`The enemy general has fallen great Khan. Let us take his skull as a drinking cup`

[BSM_Skkzarg]

Hatamoto - The Mongol HC are deadly - but Yari Spearmen are equal to the challenge if built right. In multiplayer a single MHC is 600 Koku - while a Yari Samurai is 200. With the 400 you save - add 3 armor and 3 weapon along with a +1 to honor - making all ratings equal 3. This unit will cost 576 Koku - a tiny amount less than the MHC your opponent has. On level ground, head to head, the Yari Samurai will win with only 20-25% loss. The koku u save (24 per unit) an also go to an extra honor point on a couple of those samurai as well - making them a bit tougher as well.

As for a moral penalty facing a MHC charge - it DOES appear that units that are NOT specialized (like Battlefield Ninja or Kensai) or are not heavy (or Naginata) cav or spearmen WILL break QUICKLY! The key is using the correct counter unit (and terrain) to take out the ferocious MHC.

Read the Tactical thread for more info.

BSM_Skkzarg

[Yoko Kono]

i recall reading somewhere a long time ago that mongol cav were to recieve a `trample` bonus of either attck or morale penaty reflecting the awesome detrustive power mentally of facing such a charge

[Alastair]

LOL!!! @ Yoko Kono!

[Yoko Kono]

i shall bite my tongue
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[JAG]

yoko kono. . that was very very good!!! i have been chuckling bout it 4 a few minuted now very weel done http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Watch out for that. . . . . Dam too late!. . . the story of my life!

WarlordWarrior

[JAG]

dam spellings!!!!

minutes not minuted

well not weel

doh!!! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/redface.gif

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Watch out for that. . . . . Dam too late!. . . the story of my life!

WarlordWarrior

[Kiwi]

Damn - not dam???

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[DragonCat]

One of the things about the forum is balancing the desire to know vs the joy of discovery. Much as I would like to brag and tell you all the ins and outs of defeating the Mongols (which I have mostly learned by being the Mongols and being defeated) I think it will be much more fun for you (and me) for us to meet on line and to let me demonstrate through experience - you playing the Japanese and me the Mongols, of course, and only until you learn to beat me upon which time, we switch places ;-)

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DragonCat
"On the prowl . . . ."

[Dark Phoenix]

They will of course be comp games hey DragonCat. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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DoragonPhoenix of the Clan Doragon (http://clandragon2.homestead.com/Dragon01.html)

I am no hero I just like to hit people in the head. :p

[DragonCat]

If you insist ;-)

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DragonCat
"On the prowl . . . ."

[Koga No Goshi]

They should make a tickle-me-Kensai Elmo unit!!!!!




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Koga no Goshi

"Nandai"
Since time began
the dead alone know peace.
Life is but melting snow.

[Koga No Goshi]

if any Mongol unit tried to hurt him, even like 40 direct hits from Thunder Bombers, he'd laugh and say "that tickles! hehe!"



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Koga no Goshi

"Nandai"
Since time began
the dead alone know peace.
Life is but melting snow.