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ElmarkOFear
03-15-2003, 15:06
I posted the URL for the UGLI WEBSITE update at the .com forum in the Medieval total war section. Go check out what the moderator Killemall said in reply to my post. Seems multiplayer groups are not welcome at the .com forum anymore. And they had the nerve to have called us arrogant a few months back? Unbelievable. My post at .com (http://pub24.ezboard.com/fshoguntotalwarfrm5.showMessage?topicID=5542.topic) Please go reply in my thread, asking if multiplayer players are unwelcome now at the .com forums.

Magyar Khan
03-15-2003, 18:20
me myself and i yes but u...? no. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Magyar Khan
03-15-2003, 18:22
posted elmo, i did it my way. i am aiming to lure the attention away from your topic so to speak

baz
03-15-2003, 18:52
harsh but true http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

bosdur
03-15-2003, 19:38
When did this friction between two boards came up ? Pinpoint me to threads plz http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif. ANyone ?

LordTed
03-15-2003, 20:05
only posted on .com 3 times and that was to complain i found the boards to be mostly full of shits who complain more than we do if saying that is ironic then it happens

Dionysus9
03-15-2003, 21:26
I dont think he meant any real offense, just a newbie mod with no experience.

His "senior citizens" comment was funny, though.

I would post a reply but I refuse to register at the .com.

Kongamato
03-15-2003, 21:41
I hear war drums.

ElmarkOFear
03-16-2003, 01:26
I just read the "Senior Citizen's" post and find it amusing as well. If only he was amusing in the original post he made then I would have understood a bit more of his reasoning. I thought he was believing I was trying to lure .com forum members into other games or other forums, which is not the case as you all know. As a matter of fact, we have several new members from the .com forum that are now starting to play MP with us. The more the merrier. Go read my reply to killemall and let me know if I was diplomatic enough. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

DthB4Dishonor
03-16-2003, 05:57
I dont understand his first statement or his explanations but they seem a bit condescending especially since it was such an innocent post from Elmo to begin with.

P.S. I too hear war drumm's about time .com and .org had a nice Big tourney 1v1's 2v2's and 3v3's.

RTKPaul

Kensai Achilles
03-16-2003, 07:32
ban moderator from no siege game hehe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

the moderator edited his statement already (his first reply). Previously, he used the words "it appears...loyal... OT..." as if he was guessing who/what the heck UGLI is, and he edited that. Though I'm not sure if he still takes the literal meaning out of "elder" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I suppose this shows that he hasn't been around very long or is less informed, and he tries to remedy this. So the whole thing is I think an innocent misunderstanding. Perhaps his latest compliment is his way of saying sorry http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Knight_Yellow
03-16-2003, 08:06
i thought hed edited it since it seems fine now.

i think i registered on .com but i dont think i even posted.


besides the org's way better.

ElmarkOFear
03-16-2003, 09:09
Yes, he did edit his first posts and took out my post questioning his attitude and what he meant by "loyal" and moving it to "OT". He even edited Magyar's post defending me to make it look like Magy was complaining about nothing. He also edited and added his last posts to make it appear that he had been very helpful from the start. Oh well, as long as I don't get any more grief over there it is fine.

PS. Thanks Magyarkhan for your post, it was much appreciated. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Demon of Light
03-16-2003, 11:08
The following is from Aelwyn who, due to a Junior Patron rank, was unable to post here directly:


Elmo Well don't be too suprised m8. He moderates how I play...quick to cover up mistakes. I too observed the edits, and you have to say, at least he recognized the situation and edited as necessary. At least he recognized the situation/mistakes made, and was willing to correct it. And what happened to the picture that was on the Annual Meeting page? I think that was seriously one of the best parts of the whole site. I recommend you re-add it somehow .

RTK Aelwyn"

Magyar Khan
03-16-2003, 12:01
hu? have the .com forums their own "letsmakemaggylookugly" people? seems my reputation crosses many forumborders. is it necessarry to set out a part of the Horde? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Major Robert Dump
03-16-2003, 12:17
You are correct, Khan, I read some posts talking trash on you at gardening forum i know of http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Orda Khan
03-16-2003, 14:55
Quote[/b] (Major Robert Dump @ Mar. 16 2003,05:17)]You are correct, Khan, I read some posts talking trash on you at gardening forum i know of http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
LOL... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif .....Brilliant

Btw I haven't visited .com for nearly a year, I never found it very good at all

....Orda

Tera
03-16-2003, 15:32
Since the last two years or so, it's been clear that .COM is mostly an SP forum while ORG is more focused on multiplayer.

Just a trend.

DthB4Dishonor
03-16-2003, 16:01
Tera I disagree. I think .org is well balanced and a sp can find alot of good stuff here. Also mp have alot of nice threads also. In .com I've noticed just a few more sp rants a few more "I wish" "they should've" "they should" sp threads. I think .org is a well balanced sp/mp site while .com is a sp site that goes off on ethnic/social/cultural/national rants in almost every thread.

I visit .com once every few weeks or month but almost never see a thread worth contributing too.

RTKPaul

ElmarkOFear
03-16-2003, 17:52
I made one last post over at the .com in my thread. In it I thanked him for editing his first post and I also thanked you Magyarkhan for supporting me with your post. At least now everyone will know that something was awry at the start of the thread.

Tera
03-16-2003, 18:33
Quote[/b] (DthB4Dishonor @ Mar. 16 2003,09:01)]Tera I disagree. I think .org is well balanced and a sp can find alot of good stuff here. Also mp have alot of nice threads also. In .com I've noticed just a few more sp rants a few more "I wish" "they should've" "they should" sp threads. I think .org is a well balanced sp/mp site while .com is a sp site that goes off on ethnic/social/cultural/national rants in almost every thread.

I visit .com once every few weeks or month but almost never see a thread worth contributing too.

RTKPaul
ORG indeed has a good balance http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I meant that ORG has the largest concentration of veterans in the MP world so the multiplayer discussion is often very intelligent and of a certain importance in our little virtual world.

Tera

Magyar Khan
03-17-2003, 00:43
Well my scouts are set out so but i might call them back, i dont believe the moderator involved is worth the attention.

Kraxis
03-17-2003, 17:54
Relax about this issue... the point behind his fast and furious response is that the .com has suffered under some unwilling recruiting scemes as of late... Some banning has been involved and plenty of editing.

Killemall is just a very dedicated moderator and can as such look like an aggressive and vengeful person. He is not. Being a moderator over there myself (Tarrak is the name) I know what it is he faces, but he dedicates more time than me to that.

ElmarkOFear
03-17-2003, 19:21
Yes, I agree with letting it go Kraxis. It is still no excuse for such a rude post, without first having asked me what exactly the UGLIs were about and without having visited the site to find out. I too was a moderator for quite a while and I do know what you guys, both here at the .org and at the .com, have to put up with. Just remember, not everyone is a troublemaker, so give them the benefit of the doubt until you are sure. I know both you and Killemall have the best intentions and give a lot of your time policing the posts and I thank you for keeping the forums clean.

PS. I am unsure of what you mean by "unwilling recruiting schemes". If you can explain further, it would be appreciated so that I will make sure that my posts do not appear as such when I post there next. Thanks in advance. Elmo

Kraxis
03-17-2003, 21:50
We have had several attempts of recruiting people by putting up false headlines. When people have then clicked the link they have been directed to a page where their visit would grant the person another person to his register of people. His reasons seemed to be economical, but I'm not sure, could even be more sinister.
After several of these cases we have become very wary at post that have the sole intention of directing people to a link.

Obviously Killemall made a grave mistake, but there is a reason for that mistake.

ElmarkOFear
03-18-2003, 06:31
Thank you for the explanation. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Wonder what they are accomplishing by redirecting people like that? I would be weary too if I was moderating.

Aelwyn
03-18-2003, 09:14
Could be the link is simply redirecting the person to a site which pays the person for traffic to their site. These type of people have no interest in the board they are visiting, and are just looking for more hits. So basically neither side should jump to conclusions http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif .

Kraxis
03-18-2003, 21:04
Well the first one (we have just been hit by two more) told the unwary patron that he was now one of "he who's name I shalt not voice"s muggers. There is 'now' this many muggers...

So people were more or less told they had been fooled over badly. Tempers flared quite hot for a time.
Having trekked other of the forums the first guy visited I noticed we were far from the only ones (one forum moderator did a cool edit of his post but sadly I could not do so due to restrictions, he basically made a fool of the guy) and it seems these two new ones are also only doing this fooling game.

ElmarkOFear
03-19-2003, 09:45
Obviously two kids with too much time on their hands. What fun is it to make a person waste a couple of seconds on a bogus thread?

Tell Killemall, all is forgiven. I know Obake recommended you, Killemall and Wart for the moderator positions when he left the .com forum. I have known him for 3 years now, and I know he is a good judge of character. Keep up the hard work, I know it is frustrating at times, since you normally only hear from people when they are upset with you and not when they think you have done a good job. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Kraxis
03-19-2003, 19:25
Thanks, I will tell him that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Btw we are finally getting a 'delete on sight' policy, only needs to get it through the CA (Richie).