a peculiar geisha phenomenon--anyone else have this happen?

[Thomas Ressler]

Hey, all... here's a fascinating little phenomenon I've experienced with the geisha a few times with the original STW.

I send a particular geisha to assasinate a given enemy general... but then I watch as she continues to move through MY territory.

When she finally does get to actually entertain the selected general, the event is still in MY territory.

Now, here's the quirk. Immediately after she's done killing him, she then ends up killing one of my own generals!

What's happened here in these cases is that both generals have had the SAME NAME.

Now, the first time this happened, I wondered if there was some secret Judas Geisha betrayal mechanism I hadn't heard about.

Then I wondered if my general was planning to betray me in consultations with the enenemy general the geisha was originally assigned, and he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But when I noticed that both generals had the same name, I figured it must have been some glitch in the program. I wrote Support an e-mail about this but never heard back. I don't know if there was a patch issued that solved this or what.

I have yet to see a similar phenomena take place in WE/TMI... I sure hope I don't! I would just HATE to lose a daimyo or a complete campaign that way! Sheesh!

[Yoshistune]

Hmm I think it's a glitch. I doubt a general can turn on you. A Geisha turning on you kinda makes sense but I don't thing that they have thought about making that option. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[Anssi Hakkinen]

Sounds like a name-related bug, indeed. But since generals with the same name are exceedingly rare, I suppose this doesn't happen very often... And not to daimyô, anyway.

[A Nerd]

Just don't use geishas.

[Kiwi]

This has happened to me twice. Both times the Geisha in one turn ended up in an inland province and I had the pleasure of watching her kill my general and then I got to watch it from the other side. How could she move in one turn to a province with no port and on the other side of the map?

Definitely a bug.

[Khan7]

Well, I can honestly say that I've never had the frickin patience to tech up that far (or at least in that direction, would seem that arms and armor are more critical to survival than assasination)..

But sounds like a name-related bug indeed, and I would have to agree with Annsi's analysis of it.

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[Anssi Hakkinen]

It might be hard to fix in a patch, though. Since the Geisha (and perhaps all other strategic units as well... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/confused.gif ) apparently plan their victims based solely on their names, there would appear to be no way for them *not* to kill also wrong guys, if they have the same names. The devs could restrict the killing of your own people, but it would still be possible to kill two *enemy* generals in one turn with one Geisha, if they had the same name...

Maybe it's best to restrict the game to only one guy per name. Surely they have sufficient imagination for that. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

(Hey, sig changing day!)

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