View Full Version : \"dust\" = smoke = stupid?
tai4ji2x
08-27-2001, 14:57
uh... k, i dunno about everyone else here, but i'm away from home for the next year, so the only system i can play my new shogun warlord edition on is my ibm thinkpad (ati rage mobility 128). it runs fine and relatively smoothly, except for the new troop marching dust effects, which SUCK!!! maybe it's just the ATI card not being able to handle it as well as the nvidia card? (the dust effect sprites are completely opaque and thus obscure the battlefield and units for me - is this the case on nvidia cards too?) i dunno, but i sure don't like having to turn off the gun smoke just to also turn off the silly marching dust effect. i mean, is it just me, or something? maybe there's a way to tweak my ati card to handle this better? i wish CA/DT/EA could make the musket smoke a seperate effect from the troop marching. the effect (troop marching dust) slows my machine down to a crawl in large battles.
BSM_Skkzarg
08-27-2001, 15:07
Looks to be a problem with the vid card mate - nvidia chips dont do that.
Trust me, if its a big deal just kill the smoke altogether. Heck, blasted musket smoke is annoying anyway LOL.
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tai4ji2x
08-27-2001, 15:27
damn... anyone know how to tweak the ATI cards to handle the dust/smoke sprites any better?
Erado San
08-27-2001, 16:21
Tai4, let me get this straight. The Gunsmoke is translucent and the dust trails are not?
tai4ji2x
08-27-2001, 16:48
erado: no, sorry, i've spoken too soon. i don't know about the gun smoke. so if it's a problem with ATI cards in general, then so be it. oh well. i haven't had the time today to test out a custom battle, nor have i gotten far enough into a campaign where guns are available.
i just made an assumption because when i first started playing the WE, i noticed, "WTF is up with those silly looking clouds?!" and i assumed it was a new "feature" in the WE.
xzy
[This message has been edited by tai4ji2x (edited 08-27-2001).]
grrrrr.....
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Pussiecat
08-27-2001, 17:56
I think it is just your graphics card.
What has happened to me in the past when my 3d accelerator crashes and switches off without warning and i go into battle, not only do my general graphics die a slow and painful death, but the smoke emitted by the long ranks of musketeers is just a solid wall of black, becoming increasingly larger.
In one game recently where this happened and i endeavoured to battle on, i rotated the screen to try and direct my fast dying troops, and what a sight behold me..
The sky obviously had the top third of the screen, but below that was a pure vision of black with squigly green bits representing smoke from mine and my enemys (victors) guns.
so i imagine dust uses similar effects as gunsmoke, and with a poor graphics card like mine, it will appear solid.
Run a custom battle with Guns and check it http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
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May the honour be with you all..........EuroSan the reborned spirit of LinkSan
tai4ji2x, when I first got my desk top it had a ATI rage pro 128 in it(16 meg). The smoke comming from musket fire looked like large burnt marsh mellows floatting in the air. Later I installed a ATI Radeon DDR 64 in my computer, made a big difference.Example, the smoke looks much more real.
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tai4ji2x
08-28-2001, 01:28
man, this sucks. for a whole year, i'll have no choice but to play without smoke effects!!! =( argh, stupid old ati card!!
NoFearWonton
08-28-2001, 02:25
heheehhehe, pussie, hehehehehehehe.... *remembers when he kicked pussiecats ass cause she was blind*
Pussiecat
08-28-2001, 19:01
HE was blind wonton - HE!!!
Ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr
NoFearWonton
08-29-2001, 08:48
same difference, maybe you should change your name, cause i find it hard to believe that any strait guy would name themselves "pussie cat". i knew you were a he when i wrote it, i just had forgotten.
Alastair
08-29-2001, 10:07
The dust trails screw me up too, and I have an nVidia.
Pussiecat
08-29-2001, 20:53
You have questioned my sex.
You have questioned my sexuality.
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Apart from when I was blind I think we have yet to fight Wonton - your modem always seems to have problems http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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[This message has been edited by Pussiecat (edited 08-29-2001).]
Here kitty kitty kitty...Awe, isn't dat a nithe widdo puthy cat...SMACK !! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif .....Hee hee hee.
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KumaRatta Yamamoto
08-29-2001, 23:31
WonTon, Pussiecat and Clink, maybe you wish to discuss this privatly amongst yourselves http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif, kind of "off-topic", "wrong forum", "wrong type of site" discussion developping here http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Sorry Kuma http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif
But WonTon and me was just havin fun with a little bit a pussy http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
Pussiecat
08-30-2001, 00:39
orry Kuma
(my key for the letter before t in the alphabet dont work anymore)
orry for hijacking your po*t tai4ji2x.
clink too eh?? look like im gonna be bu*y http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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NoFearWonton
08-30-2001, 01:56
whos pot did you "high"jack? I will never apolagize, lest you use my quote in one of your damnable signatures!!!
tai4ji2x
08-30-2001, 06:50
heh... yeah, this thread got nowhere fast http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
so is it confirmed that the dust was NOT in the original STW, only the smoke? or was i just not noticing it because the effects blended in much more nicely with my nvidia card?
NoFearWonton
08-30-2001, 21:41
well, since i want to be helpful whilst in your thread, i shall first answer th relevant question above: i dont know.
second, pussie it might be hard to play you right now, cause im typin with one hand as i hold an icepack over the right side of my faCE where it hs swollen my eye shut from the wasp sting on the nose.
There was no dust in the original S:TW. Just fog and gunsmoke.
Quote Originally posted by Nelson:
There was no dust in the original S:TW. Just fog and gunsmoke.[/QUOTE]
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True.
But my original STW is dusty now, sitting on the shelf. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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'Eat your weakest man'
Pussiecat
08-31-2001, 04:12
so your guns smoke works fine tai4ji2x, but its just the dust that isnt transparent?
and Wont...
1st your modem
Now your eye.
ok guys - i give ten to one on who can guess the next excuse....
Tenchimuyo
08-31-2001, 04:33
A broken wrist. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
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tai4ji2x
09-02-2001, 09:44
pussiecat: no, my mistake. both are opaque
Pussiecat
09-02-2001, 16:36
Oh no - that means even more and even bigger black walls when my computer fails me!!
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tai4ji2x
09-08-2001, 12:46
so wait, is there no way to just turn off the marching dust but leave the gun smoke on?
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