De Bullseye
07-15-2001, 01:07
Howdy all.
I've been playing "Normal" level lately vs the comp and it seems like the comp's archers are a HELL of a lot more effective than anything I can create.
I will use my last battle as an example. Computer had 203 men, and I had 800+. Comp was in 2 groups. First group 11 HC with 12 archers, second group was made up of 3 groups of archers (super-human archers I was to find out)
I used a unit of YC to wipe out the first group. No problem, I lost 5 guys and I killed the enemy diamo.
For the second enemy group, I moved up an open ranked group of YS. This was my 'cannon fodder' group (or arrow fodder as the case may be). I stood this group of40 under a serious hail of arrows at what I guestimated was near extreme range on the second enemy group.
After a couple minutes, I started moving the YS back (what was left of them). The second enemy group followed them (continuing to shoot at them) until the 3 groups of enemy archers were in the open on a flat portion of the field. I then charged 1 YC(175 tot men) into each of the 3 enemy archers and had a group of monks (60)running up as support. The YC charged in open ranks and then closed just before making contact.
Hand-to-hand the archers slaughtered the YC. This seem incredible since YC usually will easily destroy archers on a flat surface. My monks (honor 5) RAN AWAY after receiving one volly from a group of 30-40 archers (only lost one guy in that volly, but by the time they'd turned around and run away they had lost about 20 guys).
Meanwhile, while this was going on, I had moved a YC(60 a+1), SA(60 d+1), and a YS(60) in behind the enemy archers. My SA had high ground so I let them fire away at a group of the enemy archers. The single group of enemy archers returned fire. I let these two groups go at it until my guys ran out of ammo. The enemy group CONTINUED to fire (one of the same 3 archer groups that had been firing the whole BATTLE!). I ordered my YC and YS to attack. They closed without getting hit by enemy arrows (enemy unit was still targetting my now out of arrows SA).
The YC hit first from the side. The enemy archers slaughtered them in hand-to-hand. The 20 YC remaining fled just as the YS contacted the enemy archer group (about 20 guys in this enemy group now). The 20 enemy archers SLAUGHTERED my 60 YS. 14 remaining YS fled.
By this point I was incredulous. It seemed like the computer was cheating. I ordered a full-scale assualt on the 3 enemy archer groups. My remaining, unscathed forces were entirely monks of 0-5 honor. The enemy fired on the monks the WHOLE time they closed and then were killing monks 1for1 (ie I lost 1 monk for every archer I killed).
FINALLY the enemy archers broke and ran. Only two groups left. 10 in one and 8 in the other. I chased them off the SE side of the map, but the game wouldn't end, so I spread my guys out and started checking all the groups of trees for enemy stragglers.
Well... the enemy had run off the SE corner of the map and re-appeared in the SW corner in a grove of trees. Same guys.. 1 group of 10, one group of 8. I know these enemy archers were NOT in those trees earlier, cuz my YC (20) and YS (14) had retreated to those trees and had remained there until I ordered them on the straggler hunt.
I charged ALL my remaining units in. The enemy sent a stream of arrows at them (the comp's UNLIMITED arrows!). Just as my leading groups of units closed, time ran out and I lost.
Ok, so what the Hell was I doing wrong here?
Suggestions?
(o)
I've been playing "Normal" level lately vs the comp and it seems like the comp's archers are a HELL of a lot more effective than anything I can create.
I will use my last battle as an example. Computer had 203 men, and I had 800+. Comp was in 2 groups. First group 11 HC with 12 archers, second group was made up of 3 groups of archers (super-human archers I was to find out)
I used a unit of YC to wipe out the first group. No problem, I lost 5 guys and I killed the enemy diamo.
For the second enemy group, I moved up an open ranked group of YS. This was my 'cannon fodder' group (or arrow fodder as the case may be). I stood this group of40 under a serious hail of arrows at what I guestimated was near extreme range on the second enemy group.
After a couple minutes, I started moving the YS back (what was left of them). The second enemy group followed them (continuing to shoot at them) until the 3 groups of enemy archers were in the open on a flat portion of the field. I then charged 1 YC(175 tot men) into each of the 3 enemy archers and had a group of monks (60)running up as support. The YC charged in open ranks and then closed just before making contact.
Hand-to-hand the archers slaughtered the YC. This seem incredible since YC usually will easily destroy archers on a flat surface. My monks (honor 5) RAN AWAY after receiving one volly from a group of 30-40 archers (only lost one guy in that volly, but by the time they'd turned around and run away they had lost about 20 guys).
Meanwhile, while this was going on, I had moved a YC(60 a+1), SA(60 d+1), and a YS(60) in behind the enemy archers. My SA had high ground so I let them fire away at a group of the enemy archers. The single group of enemy archers returned fire. I let these two groups go at it until my guys ran out of ammo. The enemy group CONTINUED to fire (one of the same 3 archer groups that had been firing the whole BATTLE!). I ordered my YC and YS to attack. They closed without getting hit by enemy arrows (enemy unit was still targetting my now out of arrows SA).
The YC hit first from the side. The enemy archers slaughtered them in hand-to-hand. The 20 YC remaining fled just as the YS contacted the enemy archer group (about 20 guys in this enemy group now). The 20 enemy archers SLAUGHTERED my 60 YS. 14 remaining YS fled.
By this point I was incredulous. It seemed like the computer was cheating. I ordered a full-scale assualt on the 3 enemy archer groups. My remaining, unscathed forces were entirely monks of 0-5 honor. The enemy fired on the monks the WHOLE time they closed and then were killing monks 1for1 (ie I lost 1 monk for every archer I killed).
FINALLY the enemy archers broke and ran. Only two groups left. 10 in one and 8 in the other. I chased them off the SE side of the map, but the game wouldn't end, so I spread my guys out and started checking all the groups of trees for enemy stragglers.
Well... the enemy had run off the SE corner of the map and re-appeared in the SW corner in a grove of trees. Same guys.. 1 group of 10, one group of 8. I know these enemy archers were NOT in those trees earlier, cuz my YC (20) and YS (14) had retreated to those trees and had remained there until I ordered them on the straggler hunt.
I charged ALL my remaining units in. The enemy sent a stream of arrows at them (the comp's UNLIMITED arrows!). Just as my leading groups of units closed, time ran out and I lost.
Ok, so what the Hell was I doing wrong here?
Suggestions?
(o)