Castle Infiltration working for you?

[Obake]

Not sure if something got screwed up during installation or if it's a bug, or if I'm just missing something, but for some reason I can't get Ninja castle infiltration to work.

Here's the situation, I did a full install of WE while leaving my existing full install of STW on my hard drive. I'm currently playing the 1530 campaign as Oda on Hard. I've tried several times to use the Castle Infiltration option and it has yet to happen. If I drop my Ninja on a seiged castle, it'll ask if I want to infiltrate, assasinate or abort. By choosing infiltrate and then right clicking on the Ninja, it will show that his current assignment is castle infiltration. Next season however, the infiltration never occurred and the Ninja is now shown to be counter-spying.

I dug through the threads going back to the North American release in GD and couldn't find a thing. There is also no game documentation on what needs to be done.

Anyone else having this problem? Either something got screwed up during the full install or this is a bug. If anyone out there is using Castle Infiltration please let me know.

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Obake

I warned you, but did you listen? Ohh, no...it's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it?

[Pachinko]

But for me, it does work. Most of the time was killed anyway.

P.

[KumaRatta Yamamoto]

It works also with my game. A ninja under h3 level doesn't have a good chance to succeed. The chances of success gets better though, if you wait a bit. I had an h2 ninja chance of success go from 10%, up to 30% the next season (i had decide not to storm the castle that season).

Obake you pick-up your ninja an put it on the castle and choose open the gate.

[Tsumi]

Your chances of killing a high level general are better than infiltration. I have had a h4 ninja fail many times.

[The Scourge]

Could it be that you're right clicking on the ninja ,after you've given the order is having an effect?
Could be you've found a little bug there.
Try again without the right click.

[Obake]

Thanks for the reply's and suggestions all. My guess is that since none of you are having problems, it must be something with my install. I'm going to re-install and see if it works.

Just out of curiosity, how many of you did a full Warlord's install (not MI) on top of your old full install?

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Obake

I warned you, but did you listen? Ohh, no...it's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it?

[solypsist]

Hmmm, ive had no luck with ninja infiltration either. what happens? in what order do i put things? infiltrate and end the assault with my army all in the same season? some help in how to get results would be great

[Hosakawa Tito]

Obake,after you drop your ninja on the castle and choose open gates,do you also take your besieging army and drop it on the castle during the same turn?If not that might be why.On the next turn do you get any message on the infiltration at all?If you do as I described you should get either a successful infiltration which is like an auto resolved battle(you don't actually fight on screen),or you should get a mission failed message and then your army either storms the castle(you fight the castle battle on screen)or you choose to call off the attack.I think you are just dropping your ninja on the castle and forgetting to also attack with your army on the same turn.Soly,I don't think it matters in what order you do this,but I think I drop the ninja first,then drop the army on the castle.

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[This message has been edited by Hosakawa Tito (edited 09-10-2001).]

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[solypsist]

thx

[dagdriver]

Just drop the ninja on the castle, choosing "open gates".
If he succeeds, your troops enter the castle killing all defenders, loosing very few men.

It's not necessary to order an assault too....

[This message has been edited by dagdriver (edited 09-11-2001).]

[Hosakawa Tito]

Dag,I think you are mistaken.When I don't drop my army on the castle along with my ninja,nothing happens next turn.No message on the success of the infiltration either good or bad.I think the army must also be attacking the castle on the same turn to trigger the "open gates" mission by the ninja.Any beta testers out there that can shed some light on this question?

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Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell so that they look forward to making the trip.

[Obake]

I think Hosakawa's right. I tried again last night after re-installing the game and ran into the same issues when just dropping the Ninja on the castle and choosing open gates.

I'll give you all an update after trying Hosakawa's suggestion.

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Obake

I warned you, but did you listen? Ohh, no...it's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it?

[Zone]

I tried it once and it worked perfectly (except for the fact that my ninja died! :-) I did choose to storm the castle in the same go after first having set the ninja to 'do his stuff'. I don't think I did the full install though, to be honest I can't remember.
Just out of interest, what does opening the gates do? Does it mean you don't attack the castle? They're just defending as normal? I've never come across a castle with closed gates.

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Fight first, ask questions later.

[kain]

Opening the gates does not require a simultaneous assault by an army. In fact it may even be possible to assault the gates without even having an army in the province to do it with (I haven't tried - possible oversight in the game). All you do is use the ninja on the castle and click 'open the gates'. Next turn your army will occupy the castle and will have lost only about 10-20 men from the supposed night-time assault. You don't control the battle.

[dagdriver]

Spot on, Kain.
I know your don't have to assault the castle, cause I never do that - and the Ninja works for me!. Just make shure your Ninja is at least honour 4.

[Hiroshi-O'Duff]

I have stormed MANY castles this way, using the Ninja (and I didn't even realize it was an option until I went in to kill a wimpy general -- suppose I should read more carefully).

Anyway, I have NEVER dragged an army onto the castle after the Ninja, and it always works. Further, I've succeeded with Honor 0 ninja before, as well, and failed at other times with honor 3 ninja. Once I had a single ninja open three gates, and in the next year, lost seven ninja trying to open the gates of two castles.

Duff

[Dark Phoenix]

Kain you have to have an army in the province, otherwise they will just sally and you lose the province.

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[Zone]

it may even be possible to assault the gates without even having an army in the province to do it with (I haven't tried - possible oversight in the game [Kain]

Not sure there would be much point in doing that though http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif



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