Interesting discovery about gun factary and cathedral ...

[Gothmog]

Maybe this is already a known fact, maybe not, oh, well, whatever ....

If you build gun factory, but DON'T BUILD CATHEDRAL, your Muskets will have 1 honor bonus (plus whatever armor bonus from that province, since you need an armory to build gun factory anyway)...

I was playing uesugi and did a test. First I accepted portugese treaty, then built trading post in Hitachi, then gun factory.

The fresh muskets recruited there got 1 honor bonus.

Then I build a cathedral in Totomi, and checked Hitachi again, new muskets start with honor 0.

Then I set tax to punitive, removed all the garrisons and shinobis from Totomi. 3 years later, I got a revolt and lost Totomi, along with the cathedral.

Tried Hitachi again, the newly recruited muskets lost their + 1 bonus...




[This message has been edited by Gothmog (edited 10-01-2001).]

[HattoriKun]

Very interesting. A newbie question: Does a gun factory add +1 to all gun units made in that province or simply allow production of muskets?

[Gothmog]

Quote Originally posted by HattoriKun:
Very interesting. A newbie question: Does a gun factory add +1 to all gun units made in that province or simply allow production of muskets? [/QUOTE]

Gun factory with portugese treaty, no cathedral: allows muskets, and gives +1 bonus.

Gun facotry with portugese treaty, with cathedral: allows muskets, no bonus.

This does seem weird. As to why, I am making guesses here, but I suppose gun factory is originally designed so that you can have muskets WITHOUT converting to christianality. That is, suppose you accept dutch treaty, then you can build your dutch trading post then citedal then gun factory, without ever having to abandon buddhism.

Portuguese arrive earlier than dutch, but on the other hand, by accepting their treaty, your daimyo becomes christian. And if you have built at least 6 churches, you can build cathedral which not only collects tethes from the churches (100 koku per church), but also upgrades the portugese trading posts so that muskets can be recruited.

My hypothesis is that CA wants to give us two alternative ways to get the powerful muskets: Gun factory with dutch treaty; cathedral with protugese treaty. But they didn't do a clean job seperating those two paths.


[This message has been edited by Gothmog (edited 10-01-2001).]

[celtiberoijontychi]

yep looks like a bug, pls report it at the wish list for the definitve patch