What faction would you most like to see added?

[Brother Derfel]

Just interested to see what would be the most popular new faction to be made playable in a possible future expansion pack.

(BTW new to the forum so forgive me if this one has already been done)


Thanks

[rpasell]

None of the above as most of those factions can be modded to playable already.

I'd like to see the time period regressed to start late in the roman empire, or even a late greek period.

[Brother Derfel]

Quote[/b] (rpasell @ Nov. 27 2002,14:49)]None of the above as most of those factions can be modded to playable already.

I'd like to see the time period regressed to start late in the roman empire, or even a late greek period.
Realy??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I did not realise this,
please point me in the right direction for info on how to do this, I would much aprecite that

Anyway, even in light of this new information (silly me)if you would like anthing else done, just vote Ohter then tell me about it.

Thanks

[rpasell]

There is good documentation on Modding in the downloads sections of both .org, and .com I would recommend checking there first. Mostly, it's just editing text files.

[CeltiberoMordred]

Have u ever think in Aragonese? :P I'd like to add news GA for all non-playables factions in the game, in addiiton of titles for them

[Brother Derfel]

Quote[/b] (rpasell @ Nov. 27 2002,15:11)]There is good documentation on Modding in the downloads sections of both .org, and .com I would recommend checking there first. Mostly, it's just editing text files.
Thanks a bunch mate

I shall check out the files hencewith (I like that word)

Thanks again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Foreign Devil]

Irish Yeah although it would be pretty tough, game-wise, with the english right there.... and being forced to develop ships before you could do any invading...

I'm half Irish http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[fenir]

Foreign_Devil
Which Half? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif


Note:I have the following already playable.
Burgundians
Hungary
Also Scilians
Aragonese
Well I really have them all, the Only one you can't play is the pope, I left him so he can be annoying.

I am currently changing the swiss over to Vlach.

rpasell
The Game DOES start in the late Roman Empire period.

Roman Empire/Byzantine (which is what latins call it) starts with one of their greatest Emporers.
Alexis I Comenus.
If you want it later, then change the start date.

fenir http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[einar]

I vote for all of them, and more. The best notice would be an expansion with all the european, north african and asian countries (all the countries in the MTW map) playable. With an advanced diplomacy system that allows true alliances, etc, etc ,etc, etc. It'd be a perfect MTW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[einar]

Quote[/b] (einar @ Nov. 28 2002,05:20)]I vote for all of them, and more. The best notice would be an expansion with all the european, north african and asian countries (all the countries in the MTW map) playable. With an advanced diplomacy system that allows true alliances, etc, etc ,etc, etc. It'd be a perfect MTW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Ah, and i'd like that all catholic factions can launch crusades

[Hagbard la Suede]

Scottish of coursehttp://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I'm scottish on my mothers side.

[Victorius Maximus]

The Portuguese. For some balance against the super-Almos

[Knight_Yellow]

Its gotta be the scotts there so ignored in single player i hate having to conquer my own country so i pay them off instead, but that makes them look cheap...
Hell the best medieval war film of all time with the exception of henry v was braveheart ok not very true to life but hot damn.
every1 has heard of the scotts and if u havent open ur eyes.

[Gregoshi]

I've known a few guys named Scott. They were all nice guys. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

Ha ha ha ha..... .
not overely funny that.
Cmon the SCOTTISH
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Musashi]

Novgorod. Because they're just cool http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Dark Angel]

How about the little green pixies that live under the compost heap at the bottom of my garden?

Just joking. I think I must have watched too much Monty Python over the years.

[monkian]

Welsh- Just to give the English a kicking http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[FesterShinetop]

The pope of course But only if there is an option to excommunicate the other factions and call for crusades Should be nice if you would even get paid by the other factions if they want to launch a crusade...

[Foreign Devil]

Stupid Pope.... he excomunicated me twice, then called for a crusade against me.... never saw one, though.....

I usually ignore the pope. Haven't played as italians, yet, though. That should prove interesting.

[Alrowan]

Brother Derfel.... now which book is that one from again.... thats right The Winter King

good choice of name... poor old hafgan died

anyways, burgundy was a real player in the middle ages, so id like them in

[Brother Derfel]

Quote[/b] (Alrowan @ Dec. 02 2002,08:34)]Brother Derfel.... now which book is that one from again.... thats right The Winter King

good choice of name... poor old hafgan died

anyways, burgundy was a real player in the middle ages, so id like them in
lol, I was wondering if anyone would notice where it came from. 10 points and a pat on the back to you sir.

I also chose the Burgundians, and i would like to see more centeral European states playable as well, particulary the German ones.

I have downloaded a Campaign Mod from totalwar.org called Storm over Europe I think. It alows you to play the Burgundians, Swiss and Pope

Worth looking at, my Burgundians now control most of southern Europe and are spreading East against that pagan horde http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif

[MrJedi]

Hmm...

Swiss and/or Papacy

Swiss are just cool, I can never resist putting some Swiss (armoured, hehehe) pikes just because... 'Cept their victory condition would be something like never get conquered

And papacy, well, lol

[Shahed]

Well i would like to see some bombastic babe in the expansion, like in one of the loading screens something nice to look at while you wait for battle. LOOL

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

EDIT: Yeeerp Mith it's time for another bombastic babes thread http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

[Kraellin]

i've just uploaded a new campaign mod that allows for 19 playable factions and has no land bridges. it's available for download at the test downloads area of the .org. the name is 'K_s_EarlyRussiaQ.zip'. read the readme and make sure you back up all the applicable original files before using

K.

[Qilue]

Quote[/b] (Foreign_Devil @ Dec. 02 2002,03:07)]I usually ignore the pope. Haven't played as italians, yet, though. That should prove interesting.
If you play as Italians, you have to get used to crusades shuttling through your territory and using your trade network to land at their destination, being attacked by the pope, being excommunicated by the pope, exterminating the pope and being filthy rich. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I generally don't really like playing Italians due to all of the above, but the most fun campaigns I've played were as Italians.

I really like the Turkish unit roster, but their start position in early is awful and the barrage of crusades gets really annoying.

[SmokWawelski]

Well, back to the initial question: I voted other because I would like to play as Templars, or other military order in that matter. I know that there is a mod for either them or some other new order-faction, I just need to find it and download it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif, and I surely will cause I have seen the screenshots

[_Martyr_]

I would love to see the irish as a playable faction, well mainly because i am irish, but besides that there is scope for a very challenging game to avoid becoming a british imperial possesion, Kerns and gallowglasses are fun to play with but how about some more elite units?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[CeltiberoMordred]

I think that should be added all those lands that during the XI-XVth were recognized kingdoms (but not all available since Early, of course, each one when they emerge). So, i would like to be added Scotland, Wales, Portugal, Lithuania, Navarre, Norway, Sweden, Serbia, Bulgaria and perhaps Naples (apologizes if i forget someone). IMHO, Irish are fun and challenging, but historically their land was very anarchyc, i dont think that should be considered an organizated faction (apologizes again). Crusaded kingdoms perhaps should be considered like independent factions too. Also, i dont like the distinction between major and minor faction, all factions should be playable.

But, maybe, the best solution is: no rebels, all factions.

[TheViking]

sweden ofcus, but the scottish would have been nice too

[I_Love_Sherri]

I think the Huns would be a great civ to add. Lots and Lots of fun. Originating in central Asia, the Huns were a Mongolian tribe who invaded southeastern Europe and managed to build a remarkable empire. Mostly cavalary tribe , but I believe this game falls a little after their prime time.

[scotchedpommes]

One thing I would be in favour of is all rebel factions declaring themselves separate factions, if only so you can negotiate or ally with them. Failing that, I would like to see the Scots playable (Being a Scot), and a more complex diplomacy system.

[Lord Krazy]

Quote[/b] (Celtibero Mordred @ Dec. 17 2002,15:50)]So, i would like to be added Scotland, Wales, Portugal, Lithuania, Navarre, Norway, Sweden, Serbia, Bulgaria and perhaps Naples (apologizes if i forget someone). IMHO, Irish are fun and challenging, but historically their land was very anarchyc, i dont think that should be considered an organizated faction (apologizes again).
Ireland the land of saints and punk rock http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
The scots the welsh the tiny little part of the basque country the mighty all conquering serbs all seem more
togeather to you.
The fact Ireland is an Independent country
and Scotland, Wales, Navarre, and Napels are not
shows we could not have been all that anarcistic http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Just because the English were ruthless
unrelentless and genocidle aggressors should
not discount us http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif We did win in the end http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
so we could be put in as a defencive trading nation
as we were http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Golden Goals
Kill the invaders and make loads of money http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
for the church of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

LK

[ZIM!]

the hugernauts http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[ZIM!]

ooooo how about play as a mercenary Army now that would be COOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

[Heretic]

All factions as playable ones should be in a future add-on, expansion, whatever. That would spice up the game a bit IMO.

[Zauba'a]

Excuse me, I just needed to get my 25th post here...


oh...I'd vote for the People of Novgorod -- if they'd just get some more units for em.

[Sir Black Raven]

I would like to see Portugal as Playable faction and the factions of Castile & leon aswell. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[The Marcher Lord]

Although probably unknown to people outside of Wales I would vote for the Welsh. In the 13th and early fifteenth centuries they kicked English butts under the leadersip of guys like Llewelyn the Great and Owain Glyndwr. And in the end we did end up with the Welsh on the English throne, how ?, well because Henry Tudor was Welsh and the Tudor surname is still popular in Wales

[MasterM!nd]

Quote[/b] (rpasell @ Nov. 27 2002,14:49)]None of the above as most of those factions can be modded to playable already.

I'd like to see the time period regressed to start late in the roman empire, or even a late greek period.
Could be fun starting playing as Rome/Roman Empire or some of the other ancient empires (Egypt, Greeks etc etc), but for starts playing as the Scottish could be great... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Theodoret]

It would be nice to start the campaign a little earlier (say 700AD) and have an Anglo-Saxon faction with huscarls. The present English faction could be renamed the Norman faction. I would quite like to see a Caliphate faction as well if the map could be altered to include Mesopotamia. Beefing up some of the present factions would be a good idea though. Neither the Polish nor the Danes were as weak historically as they appear in the game (the Polish in particular had a very good army). Some fancy light cavalry and horse archers for the Hungarians would be good too. Oh, and a Bulgarian faction so that we can have a Basil Bulgaroctonus campaign.

[kataphraktoi]

Normans for sure, stuff the sicilians(as a faction), they would be a nice factor in the equation that is medieval total war. In real life they were a handful for the Pope, the English, the Byzantines, the Germans and the Almohads. I reckon they would be a very very nasty faction to include in an expansion pack, they start with provinces like Normandy(From the English), Sicily and Naples(from the Byzantines)as an enemy they would be interesting to confront, as a faction a strategic starting posiiton in terms of conquest, etc.
Unique Units I would like to see is the Norman Knight.
Robert Guiscard as the starting leader of the faction and glorious achievements like a Crusade to Antioch or something like that.

[RectalDamage]

I'd like to see the americans. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Quid]

i want to play the Swiss...i don't want to go and edit...I just want to play them...did i mention that i wanted to play the Swiss already..? Anyway...i doooooo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Sorry about this, but someone seems incredibly bored here...as in bored right at this moment...lol

Quidster

[Lord of the morning]

I would vote for the pope, or maybie I just did? but anyways the reason for the pope being of intresst is that i fell that the diplomatic part of the game is underdeveloped i would prefere a more complex diplomacy (Like the one in Alpha centaruri)and the possibility to excomunicate and call for crusades as well as sponsoring thosa I fell worthy would grant exra diplomatic flavour to the game, however even better would be if the entire diplomatic sgment was upgraded for the expansion and at least for RTW.

[Shahed]

The Osbournes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

In response to Lord of The Morning's call for a more complex diplomacy system in RTW, It would be great to actually hammer out treaties when declaring a ceasefire or forging an alliance. You could set the condition that they have to pay yearly for the privilege of being your ally, or agree to keep armies away from each others borders.

Role on RTW

[king steven]

the welsh 4 there longbowmen

[magnatz]

The Normans should replace the Sicilians as kataphraktoi said (maybe they should also build drakkars?). However as an addictional playable faction I'd vote the Irish, for no special reason except that I like their epic literature http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Pindar]

One of the factions I moded for play was The Crusaders of Outremer.

It's quite fun.

I think this should have been an independant faction in the appropriate era.

[Vigi]

The Lithuanians. I am 25%Lithuanian and I think the east needs more factions =).

[Suppiluliumas]

I think that the crusader states should definately be independant of the french, but what the game needs most is a Genoese faction. The Italians would become the Venetians. This would stop the Italians from being too powerfull and it would more accurately portray history as well.

[Hajduk]

Quote[/b] (RectalDamage @ Jan. 09 2003,19:06)]I'd like to see the americans. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
How about Native Americans (Indians) and a Viking Invasion of Vinland? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

A New World conquest scenario (Greenland, Vinland) would be interesting.

--Hajduk

[BeetleLord]

Okay, I admit it I thought of the Scottish for a really sadistic reason.

Can you imagine the torture of beautiful bagpipe music being played through your PC speakers for hours on end? And I want to hear the little PC voice that gives you battle updates speak with a heavy Scottish accent. People within earshot of my laptop would think my machine was possessed

Hey. Maybe a new Welsh faction could get Catherine Zeta-Jones to do their voice-overs.

I love the lingua of the Green Isles in any form. So, truthfully, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, even Druids would be wonderful for me.

[HawaiianHobbit]

Two words: Golden Hoard http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[lol]

Croatians.......we rule.

Napoleon once said if he had 10000 Croats he would concquer whole Europe.

[Gregoshi]

Welcome and greetings lol.

Maybe it was a good thing he didn't have 10000 Croats. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Nov. 30 2003,00:57)]Maybe it was a good thing he didn't have 10000 Croats. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord Gregoshi,

you probably are not as familiar with European history, especially when it comes to Croatia, as most Americans and a larger part of Europeans are. Now don't get this wrong, I'm not accusing you of being ignorant, it's just that Croats never got larger parts in history books to be noticed around. The fact is that Croats were formidable warriors, and that have contributed a lot in fighting the Ottoman invasion. Furthermore, if you bother to dig out a map of Europe somewhere, you'll see the boomerang shaped Croatia; there is a reason for it to be like that,because these were, more or less, the lines where the medieval Croats stopped the Ottomans in their advance. The cost, yet, has been dearly: half of the population than died in wars and turkish raids of border provinces.

[lol]

I couldn't said it better my self

[dwarven_eagle]

I chose Golden Horde, thought east needs mr factions. But they'd be hard to put into the place, and when they do it's either be easy or hard, no where in bettween really. Either your attacke dby neighbors or they're to scared to do anything.
But really I'd like to see the scotts. They wheren't part of England, I do admit it'd be a hard faction to controll. Surrouned by the great power of Englandwith only one or 2 provineces to start with.

[Gregoshi]

Quote[/b] (voigtkampf @ Nov. 30 2003,02:38)]Lord Gregoshi,

you probably are not as familiar with European history, especially when it comes to Croatia, as most Americans and a larger part of Europeans are. Now don't get this wrong, I'm not accusing you of being ignorant, it's just that Croats never got larger parts in history books to be noticed around...
voigtkampf, thanks for the short history lesson. You are right about Croatia missing in the US history books. I knew little beyond the partisans of Yugoslavia gave the Germans fits during WW2 (from my own reading, not from school). I didn't know how far back this toughness went. Ignorant is not a bad term in the way you mean it. I probably know a little more than the typical American about history and geography, but I know much less than I should. One of the nice things about hanging out in these forums is that the patrons of various nationalities and ethnic groups are willing to share information about their nation or people for the benefit of others. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Now, just in case you missed the point of my earlier post, I wasn't dissing the Croats at all. My comment and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif meant that I wasn't sure if Napoleon conquering all of Europe (thanks to having 10000 Croats) would have been a good or bad thing.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Well, if we are focusing in analyzing resistence to invasion, and if one centers on what each of us knows from our own History, I've lots of information... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Viriato
We can start by the Lusitanos. They were an Iberian people of Celtic culture living in the mountainous regions of what is now central Portugal. They were separated in various tribes (or clans) that fought each other permanently. After the 2º Punic War, the Romans took control of the Carthaginian part of the Iberian Peninsula (Southwest). Son after that, the Romans decided that all of the region should be under their control. Their armies marched and in less than 10 years all Celtiberian populations were subdued. All except one, Lusitânia. In the words of a famous Roman General: There is a people in the Western edge of Hispania wich does not rule himself, nor does he let himself be ruled The Romans invaded but were repeled. Tried again to invade several times during a period of 10 years, but were unable to grasp control. However in a difficult battle involving large armies on both parts (specially Romans...) the Lusitanos came close to defeat. They were saved from it, by a man who grasped control of their forces, after the death in combat of the Lusitanien lider. This man, with a small group of cavalry, was able, by constant skirmishing with the main Roman forces, to divert their attention of the retiring Lusitanien Army. He soon joined them and armed an ambush to the pursuing Romans. They were ambushed in a valley and defeated. Only a handfull of the 6500 men army reached the Roman ruled lands. During the next 20 years, this man known today by the name of Viriato, through mountain guerrila warfare or open battle defeated Roman army after Roman army. Several Roman Generals were killed. Rome, tired of the resilient resistance decided to change strategy. They bribed 3 of Viriato's men and they assassinated him. After wich, commanded by one of their best generals, they sent a strong army to subjugate the now unorganized Lusitanos. So ended the Lusitanien resistence to Roman domain. But the legacy of the people and of its brilliant strategist remains. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Now do you understand why Portugal remained the only nation in Iberia not to fall under Spanish rule? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Because we are their descendents... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ Nov. 30 2003,18:41)]Now, just in case you missed the point of my earlier post, I wasn't dissing the Croats at all. My comment and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif meant that I wasn't sure if Napoleon conquering all of Europe (thanks to having 10000 Croats) would have been a good or bad thing.
But of course http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I understood you very well, but I also wondered if you would misinterpret my own post. I just figured to give you this tip, cause it sounded interesting for people to know, as is the previous post from our esteemed borther-in-arms Aymar de Bois Mauri about Lusitanos, the Iberian people http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif The most of members here are quite familiar, I believe, with the ferocity and bravery of the samurai and Japanese people, but hardly of Croats and Lusitanos and other smaller nations that history books have forgotten, more or less

One must always be careful when discussing with others, paying attention that his/her words come to the adressed in a wanted manner I recommend Paul Watzlawick, How Real is the Reality?, great reading on subject http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Well, Lord Gregoshi, it should be obvious that you know more than an average American about common history hence you are a TW commited individual http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif , as do I, I dare say, know more about histoy than an average European. But we both agree that we never know enough http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[Hajduk]

Quote[/b] (lol @ Nov. 28 2003,04:20)]Croatians.......we rule.

Napoleon once said if he had 10000 Croats he would concquer whole Europe.
There could be a Croatian faction in the early period of MTW. Croatia was an independent kingom in the 11th century. I'm unsure of the status of its military when it was under Hungarian protection.

(Of course, there are other factions that could be added, but might have reduced the playability of the game. How many separate states existed in Italy alone at the time?)

I'm not very knowledgeable about my ancestor's history & military history. As far as I know, during the middle ages, they could have fought under the flags of Croatia, Rep. of Dubrovnik, Hungary, and Venetian Republic.

I would welcome additional posts and links about Croatian military history here or in other forums. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

About Americans & Croatia: My Dalmatian ancestors claimed to be a separate nationality, at least when they came over to the United States. Up until recently, Americans referred to Croats, Serbs, etc. as Yugoslavs... Ugh. That name usually conjured up comparisons to the Yugo automobile. And Dalmatians, of course, are spotted dogs in a Disney film... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ] I just figured to give you this tip, cause it sounded interesting for people to know...
Yes, I completelly agree http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif



Quote[/b] ]...as is the previous post from our esteemed borther-in-arms Aymar de Bois Mauri about Lusitanos, the Iberian people
I'm flattered *bows*



Quote[/b] ]The most of members here are quite familiar, I believe, with the ferocity and bravery of the samurai and Japanese people, but hardly of Croats and Lusitanos and other smaller nations that history books have forgotten, more or less
Yes, indeed Fame seems to be focused or mislead in most cases... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]And Dalmatians, of course, are spotted dogs in a Disney film...
ROTFL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Quote[/b] ]Well, Lord Gregoshi, it should be obvious that you know more than an average American about common history hence you are a TW commited individual , as do I, I dare say, know more about histoy than an average European. But we both agree that we never know enough

You have stolen my line http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
Just joking... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
I couldn't agree more... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Voigtkampf]

Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Dec. 01 2003,12:41)]
Quote[/b] ]...as is the previous post from our esteemed borther-in-arms Aymar de Bois Mauri about Lusitanos, the Iberian people
I'm flattered *bows*
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Germans have a saying honor to whom honor belongs (loses a piece of essence when translated).

I shell soon offer you an oportunity to gain even more valor, as will other participants of these honourable halls have, but more of it in a week or so... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif