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Hendon
02-13-2003, 14:19
Whats yor most succsessed battle? Dont lie


/ME http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Elmo
02-13-2003, 15:19
I recently convinced my wife to go visit her parents for three days and to take our son and the dog with her. No lie.

Asimov
02-13-2003, 16:55
I once used 775 Byz force to defend against about 1700 Turkish. It was fun. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

A.Saturnus
02-13-2003, 17:17
Hey, I can`t vote in that poll?

Rising_General
02-13-2003, 18:14
My army consisted of roughly 800-900 Byz troops against 3200 turks. luckly my troops were battle hardended and all around superior(with the exception of his Ghulum bodygaurds). the end result was over 2000 of his men slain and only 200 men lost.


JS,

I Have Not Yet Begun To Fight - John Paul Jones

Exile
02-13-2003, 18:26
Quote[/b] (Elmo @ Feb. 13 2003,08:19)]I recently convinced my wife to go visit her parents for three days and to take our son and the dog with her. No lie.
ROFL

to the topic - there seems to be a trend, because my most successful (non-peasent rabble) battles have been as the Byz vs Muslims. I think the Byz generals' super-high command ratings are a big factor and that in Early-High Muslim comparatively light troops are no match for Byz heavy armor.

Elmo
02-13-2003, 18:52
Thanks Exile. This is a really tough crowd.

Exile
02-13-2003, 18:55
NP - just because people don't post a response doesn't mean they aren't laughing. In my case I have a wife, a son and a dog like you do - so I appreciated your post on many different levels. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Arn de Gothia
02-13-2003, 19:09
Defending egypt:

Around 1600 enemy troops, including 1 crusade vs my 37 spearmen....

They lost: Around 1400
I lost: None....

And im NOT kidding....

Yours,
ARN http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

DemonArchangel
02-14-2003, 01:46
ok, 1700 of my italian troops, vs. 2500 frenchmen, i lost 33 men. After i broke the starting lineup of frenchies, the reinforcements just ran off the field before even engaging my units, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif well, my Doge had 10 dread, because of all that prisoner killing.

jayrock
02-14-2003, 03:25
enemy rebelion, mostly peasants and rabble, not even fair, about 2700, came after my army of 1800 hardened veterans. the serpentines did quit a bit of damage, and their morale was pathetic.. this is vs ai of course..

lost around 87 men, and killed 1650 pathetic, but oh well.

Monk
02-14-2003, 03:29
Turkish Forces Defending Constantinople of 1700 Faced off against a Crusading army of 2366. battle ended in victory for my troops with 826 men lost and 1693 men killed and 428 enemy prisoners taken.

Bhruic
02-14-2003, 03:49
Spanish - 1400 troops. Egyptians - 6500 troops. Victor - Spanish. Longest battle I've ever fought. Had to pause and go pee 3 times. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I don't recall the exact kill/loss figures but unlike the previous 3 assaults, all of their troops stayed around to fight. Actually, I seem to remember something like 3000 killed, 1000 captured, but I could be off. I lost less than 500, I remember that much.

Of course, I could mention the 300 troops I took against 3500, and lost 50, but 3000 of the enemy were peasants, 500 fanatics. Not much of a challenge for my Varangian Guard.

Bh

Nobunaga0611
02-14-2003, 05:40
Mine was in a revolt. Almost all peasants and Archers. I just charged them straight away. They all ran, and my 5 or so units of Hobilars went nuts.

Fate Amenable to Change
02-14-2003, 06:18
Playing Early Byzantine, I quickly lost the province of Naples to Rebels. Restarted, and this time decided to give the italians a headache so I raised taxes to Very High, which raised a huge Rebel army, but ran away to attack (I think) Rome (neighbouring province anyway), and defeated measely forces there Raised taxes Very High, started another rebellion at just the same time as Papel States counterattacked me - so I ran my 100 Byz Inf and 60 Archers to top of highest, furtherst pinnacle, and watched nearly full stacks of Papel and Rebel forces annihilate each other.....I then move down and slaughter surviving, exhausted Rebel archers and infantry....Yayyyy
I lose about 40 men against approx 1500 enemy I have never managed it since.
Go on next round and get slaughtered by Italian expeditionary force... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif

Hendon
02-14-2003, 10:36
MY best battle was the battle with my english crusade unit on mission to siege out the egyptians in palestine then the egyptians ran out and got plenty of reinforcments.

3500 egyptians

1500 english

The battle turned out like this Egyptians 3000 casualties

And i only lost 150 men

/ME http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

TheViking
02-14-2003, 10:49
First campain with Byz army vs the hord,

My army 4500
The hord over 16000

Men killed 7500
Men lost 1000

Second campain with Byz army vs the hord,

My army 6000
The hord 12000

men killed 9200
men lost 900

my best win have been 233:1
biggest lost, attacking the english king in a castle, (the biggest there is), lost 1:541

The Shaman King
02-14-2003, 11:25
Quote[/b] (Elmo @ Feb. 13 2003,08:19)]I recently convinced my wife to go visit her parents for three days and to take our son and the dog with her. No lie.
Well Elmo you R my hero http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I have try the same, ofcourse it's easier for me becauce we have no dog http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Rosacrux
02-14-2003, 14:23
Elmo's victory is certainly the most admirable of them all... I got a wife and a dog (but not - yet - a son, planing) and I know how it is like. And those victories never come without a serious bloodshed... I always bleed badly to win even smaller ones http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

OK, in MTW... I got plenty of impressive ones, most with the Byzantines. This must be the single greatest:

Byzantines vs Da Horde.

Playing on Expert

The stage: Khazar

Buildup:
Byzantine army: 2100 appr. Mostly Kataphraktoi, byz. inf, treb archers, some Varangian guard and some steppe cavalry, and three Italian light inf (mercs).

Da Horde: 17.000+ mostly heavy cav and horsearchers and loads of Mongol inf.

Outcome: Slaughtered 13.500 Mongols appr. (including the - many - prisoners I got, so my 9star general after the battle was honored as Butcher http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) while losing more than a tad above 1.000 of my men. Their leader got down pretty quickly, but my mindless pursuing has led to the decimation of all my steppe cavalry units and most kataphraktoi too, and also a couple of my byz inf were cought on open ground and massacred.

TheViking
02-14-2003, 15:23
Best attack

8 Kataphraktois
4 Pronois
4 Steppe cavs

only 4 star gen

the units contained between 25-35 men

The enemy

Italy
5500 men all different kind of units around 1000 of them was peasants. and they also had a 4 star gen

almost 4200 killed lost only 87 men, after that attack my gen got Expert attacker +3 stars when attacking and Risky attacker (or something like that) +1 star when attack http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

My reason for that attack was if i wouldnt have attacked them they would have attacked me,, and i had no good defending army, no Trebz and not enuff of Byz cavs and i always have them in my defending armys. I feel handicap without my Trebz when defending,

Michael the Great
03-07-2003, 16:00
I had many great victories.
But the one I enjoyed THE MOST was teh historical battle of Stirling Bridge.
I've killed 1500+ english and lost almost 300 men.
Ths battle was really great coz,after teh initial engagement,I retreated my highland clansmen on top of the to the back.
Then I charged all my clansmen downhill....WOW In a matter of seconds u could see tons of dead(english).
And they routed immediately after that.
GREAT BATTLE

Nowake
03-07-2003, 16:33
the battle from the river Kalka was fun ... lost 87 men, mostly mongol archers ... few of my enemies escaped ...

it's not my greatest victory, but I liked very much the battle; indeed ...

Dimeola
03-07-2003, 18:17
I held the right in a 3 v 3....my allies request was to hold the line. The enemy first struck our left center and then hit me 2 on 1. I formed a 3 sided square and met the rush. My germans were pushed back and tried to break several times but rallied and reformed. All the while being mauled and beset by slashing attacks by mounted knights on each flank. My opponent got frusrtated and asked why I still held the field. He pulled back and regrouped several times and reattacked. My men had dwindled to a handfull but we held long enough for my allies to finish business on our left and to send some troops over to help drive the enemy away.
I was most proud of the courage and tenacity displayed on that day.
Dimeolas

Knight_Yellow
03-08-2003, 09:31
Well online when i killed 2954 with a loss of 1000 but it was in MP so its bloody well great

and it wasnt a BS calv army it was MILITIA

and in sp well there the now my 1000 saracen inf vs, 25000 mongol heavy calvarly i lost but i killed 15 for every one of mine http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Heraclius
03-09-2003, 17:55
Playing as Byzantines, early/hard. My emperor (8 stars, mighty warrior etc) and about 1300 men (Byzantine infantry/cav, trebizond archers, kats, pronoiar, Varangian guards, alan cav and Italian infantry all battle hardened/great valour and weapons), took Venice without a fight from the small Italian garrison. At this point the Almohads controlled parts of North Africa, England, Spain and much of Germany. They invaded Venice with 7,000 men and a seven star heir/general. (I'm not joking). I was lucky and the map of Venice had huge mountains.
I set up my forces on top of one far away from the enemy troops (so they would have a nice long walk) and shattered them with archer fire before they reached my troops. The first wave rallied at the bottom of the mountain but were dispersed by my infantry and devestating cavalry flank attacks. I dealt with subesequent waves like that too.
Eventually my arrows ran out. There must have been almost 30 different waves, counting rallied troops. My own men were completely exhausted but, with the help of timely reinforcements I managed to win the day. 900 killed of my own men, 5000, something like that counting killed prisoners, of the enemy dead and their general. Took me two days to complete. Never fought a battle like it again, probably never will. WOW.

Heraclius
03-09-2003, 18:01
also fought a fun one, not my best but still, against a small peasant army (three hunred) with one unit of Byzantine infantry and one of trebizond archers. I was attacking and brought my archers up really close to the peasants, and demolished them. Eventually they charged and my BI's finished them off in seconds. None lost, about 200 killed mostly from the archers.

NateEngle
03-12-2003, 17:06
1,200 Egyptians vs 11,000 Mongols

Lost 34, killed 112, took 11,000 prisoners (as the Horde had nowhere to retreat). I started the battle by volleying with missile troops who then retreated off the map, and then I spent the rest of the time with 2 squadrons of Saharan cav playing hide&seek (densely hilly/forested map - Trebizond?)

wordsmith
03-12-2003, 20:37
my greatest battle was one i lost.

me: spanish, 600 men, 1/2 cmaa 1/4 cs 1/4 various cav (very roughly) 6 star commander.
almohads, 7000+ men, 1000 peasents and a random mix of others with a lot of elites.

spanish defend, flat ground arid terrain. spanish lose 599 men and the almohads lose 5000+ men, winning the day.

what happened is the almohads withdrew their general from the field immediatly, my only hope had been forceing a mass rout and with out their general on the field i just couldnt do it. So i dug and waited, staggered my lines and opened gaps in my line to tempt them in a rush to break it. They rush the gap and i split my men around the rush and rush them about face so were on opposit sides of where we started, but now there archers are cut off from the main force and my cavelry have a field day with that while their almohad urban militia move in to tear up my cmma. I take heavy losses in the initial engagement b/c aum are godlike in melee. Once my cavalry are free of the archer routing i pull them around and force the aum into a rout. First wave was beat off but i took heavy losses. The second wave moves in but im waiting for them, draw them into a valley with faked rout of my smallest foot unit. Then my exhuasted forces leap out of the brush and attack viciously forceing the second wave of routs.

this continues on until i have killed and routed almost the whole almohad army. Its just my king and less then 100 mixed troops now, every one is totally exauhasted so we pull back away from the edge of the map and consolidate a defensive position. Then the peasents march in. Hoards of them milling through the forests and over the hills like ants. Their every where, wave after wave coming closer, moving to my flanks. almost compleatly surrounded they charge in at full tilt and its chaos. only my king manages to break free and i withdraw him off the field, every one else died fighting.

crushinator
03-14-2003, 15:50
While playing as the Italians, the Almohads had just wiped out the french. They launched an attack on me with about 8000. Foolishly, the AI decided to attack a provence with a river....

I was a little unprepared and my force consistented almost entirely of Alabasters with the addition of 5 units of italian infantry about 2000 troops.

The battle map had only 1 bridge (a long one) so I gambled and started the battle with 14 Alabasters and 2 itallian infantry. This tactic worked as my bow units cut down the almohads and almost every unit fleed before they got over the bridge (a few made it over but were so depleted they didn't fight for long).

I cycled by Alabasters out as they ran out of ammo and managed to destroy about 4000 of their troops and only lost about 200 men.

You couldn't see the bridge as it was literally covered in fallen almohads

The AI can be so stupid at times.....

Aelwyn
03-15-2003, 02:32
For the few times I have played SP....my best was around 2700 kills, just a bit over 100 losses. It was a rebellion obviously...and I almost never ransom back prisoners, I have the nasty habit of killing prisoners just as soon as I see the icon appear allowing me to kill them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

rory_20_uk
03-27-2003, 20:33
My most epic battle was13161 vs: 3112 ending with 6360 and 1487 dead respecively with 22 nobles captured. It took 7 hours to play...

Morten viking
03-28-2003, 17:54
I had a quick look at the battle of Stamford bridge quite some time ago. Playing as the English I saw the Vikings camping on the other side of a river. A single viking was however close to the bridge. I remembered the story about a single viking actually holding a bridge during the early part of the battle to buy the others time to get into position. Decided to try to recreate history and held back my forces except a unit of spearmen (I think?) The viking charged and met the spearmen on the bridge. He must have been some kind of Uberviking as he cut down 2/3 of the spearmen and had the rest running like rabbits on speed Chasing them of the bridge he then took on some knights and took half a dozen before finally going down himself. Must have had some serious stats to do this. Nice touch by the battle designers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

ShadesWolf
03-31-2003, 13:58
I wasnt my most successful, but it was one of the most enjoyable....

500-1000 men killed and 0-300

I played St.Stephen on a Byzan v Byzan battle.

Phase 1 of the battle was a draw, and I lost most of my cav, then he attacked my main force and it was a route, my army was successful and his ran...... This was an awesome battle I will post more later....

Well worth a look

Lord Of Storms
03-31-2003, 17:35
Playing as the Swiss I was defending Tyrolia against the onslaught of the Mighty HRE Units of Royal Knights ,Archers, and spears and some odds and ends came at my position I was perched high on the Tyrolian Mountainside I had Spearmen, Archers and a few Swiss Armored Pikeunits hidden in an adjacent bank of trees, I left my archers and spears out as bait, it took some time for them to reach my position, it seemed the Royals were hesitsant to commit to the fray but when they finally reached my position there archers made ready followed by the royal knights charge, I charged my SAP'S out of the woods and the funniest thing they all turned tail and ran like whipped dogs , with only a few casualties on both sides . Go figure... http://www.gifs.net/animate/dogruns.gif

ErikJansen
04-01-2003, 01:22
I won as attacker (4v4) on desertflat04 today http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Probably not my best, but certainly one of them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

NewJeffCT
04-02-2003, 23:55
My best was as the English against the Turks. My first few times against the Turks were tough - I lost one battle, and the one I won was pretty bloody for me. Not sure exactly where I was in the Middle East, but it was over 3,500 Turks against my defending 1,500 English troops.... and, I just slaughtered them. I had my guys on a hill, and I lost about 230 men, while the Turks suffered 2,362 killed(I remember the number and the 10:1 ratio) I was shocked, as while moving up in difficulty levels, I had never had a battle that one sided on Easy or Intermediate... maybe I'm just better now at managing battles?

Divine Wind
04-03-2003, 10:56
My fave battle was the Polish (myself-with 300 chivalric sergeants, 120 Arbs, and 1 culverin *4Star General) vs the Golden Horde (AI-Consisting of around 2000 heavy cav, 500 mongol warriors, and lots and lots of horse archers).

Luckily they attacked kiev and i drew a nice bridge map 2 defend http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I just kept rotating the sergeants after they routed so i had a fresh unit fighting and with having a bridge which there archers could not shoot over they kept charging across getting in each others way so they could not retreat when my troops advanced on them. I killed around 3/4 of the army and took a few nobles prisoner. Nothing better than a small army defeating a huge army that vastily outnumbers your own. Very satisfying http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

Degtyarev14.5
04-03-2003, 14:13
No doubt this has been done countless times before...

Khazar: my 2600 Russians against 6500 Mongols.

Simlpy put, heavy cav will not charge a wall of halberds, and halb armour fares well against arrows as well.

Behind which, of course, were rows upon rows of arbs. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ultimately, I lost that battle when I ran out of bolts, and thus had to retreat, but that took about four hours.

Frags: about 3500
Losses: about 400, many of which were captured as I fled.

I took a few screenshots of the horse-hide carpet... Nice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Tiwaz
04-03-2003, 18:04
Hmm. Playing Byzantines when my province with 1200 soldiers got bot loyalist rebellion AND army of HRE attacking it. 2400 units together. Fortunately Germans and Rebels were too busy killing each other so I managed to get easy victory.

ProfDanelaw
04-23-2003, 03:20
A tactical miracle in the Early Period. The Germans tried to invade Denmark from Saxony only 10 or so years into the game with an army composed of 200 peasants and 100 spearmen. I countered with 180 Vikings and one group of 40 Alan Mercenary Cavalry. At the beginning of the battle, I sent two groups of Vikings into one wooded area, and the other group into a patch of woods a short distance away across a clearing. After dangling the Alans in front of their faces and easing them out of their standing position, the German spearmen gave chase. I led them into the clearing, at which point my Vikings ambushed them from both sides, killing all 100 and only taking 10 casualties. The spearmen dispatched, my remaining forces charged the peasants, eliminating them while taking just seven more casualties. 17 of my men in exchange for all 300 of theirs.

Surprise
04-23-2003, 05:40
lol i voted for the wrong one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Div Hunter
04-23-2003, 07:00
Revolts and rebelions ect usually give fairly good ratios. But one battle I expected to loose but ended winning was a single unit of Ghulam bodyguards v 200 odd byzantines of carious types (well rounded army) this was in Georgia or Trebizond I think. A coastal type map with the large mountains to one side. I stood on the high ground even though I was the attacker I new they would come after me. the Byz army marched down the mountain they were on with their genral 1 Byz inf trailing 150m behind. I charged the bugger and got him on impact then proceded to single out the other units for attack. The battle ended in a short melee with the enemy army routing. I had lost half the Ghulam but they were at around 12 valour by that stage http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Maedhros
04-23-2003, 07:44
Playing as Poland I had seized Kiev as a buffer against the east. Novgorod attacked with more than 3000. I had 3 siege guns and 800 men. Oh, and a bridge. When it was over they had lost 1700+ I had lost 400.

More important than the victory won by a know nothing general, was the fallout.

I killed their best general and left them with light garrisons throught the empire. The Mongols assaulted from the south and with the chaos and sudden troop shortages my spies made short work of them.

The battle and extensive black ops prevented a threat from emerging on that front. Allowing poor wimpy no cool troops Poland to survive and win the day.

ichi
04-23-2003, 18:46
For SP, once as the English I held off about 1700 quality Frenchies with about 1100 Royals, OFS, longbows, and CMAA.

My best was a four turn stand in STW against the Hojo horde; each turn he sent 2000-3000 and I fought each with dwindling (yet ever more honorable) Buddhists and Cav archers. I lost a couple of provinces but his ten stacks ended up as three, and I stabilized with reinforcements. Geishas did the rest.

MP: 3v3, guy on L immediately charges cav into 2 armies, routs within minutes. As center, I hold the two armies off while the R flank fights his opponent - takes forever as they each wind up with only a couple hundred men each, but my ally wins.

Just as I am flashing white flags my ally arrives and the two armies I have been dancing with chain rout. We both laughed 'cause it was so improbable.

ichi

Preyer
04-23-2003, 18:53
3000 Egyptians half of which were peasant, and rest being beduins, numidians and militia vs. 1700 of my Byzantines, most of which were Italian and Saracen infantry, Khwarazmian cavalry and Trebizond archers, with some spearman, nubians and Byz inf. Anyway, I just took Palestine, and most of their army was formed up in Arabia(2000 men approx.). I prepared position on a large hill as far away from them as I could, and waited.
They came in with best troops, and went up the hill. Their 4 star heir who was in command went forward, and I sent numidians down, taking the bait. they flanked them, so I flanked them with Italian and saracens. Infantry soon broke and ran, and I took the heirs head. I pursued a little, but not far, fearing a second assault, which never came.
The end: 300 dead, 120 captured (they had no money for ransom so effectively dead) while losing 75.

And that's your greatest victory you'll ask? Yup, cause the very next year I took Sinai and then Arabia. With nowhere to retreat, 1700 Egyptians surrendered to my 2000 men without a battle (Reinforcements from Syria).

The_Emperor
04-23-2003, 18:55
I was the English, allied with Spain, sent a crusade down to Cordoba against the Almos... and the same turn the Almos invade Castile and besiege the Spanish with 90% of their army (several thousand men)

The crusade works and captures the cordoba (because I sent my own army in over the sea to help) Portugal is in rebel hands, and I send in a releif army of some 3,000 men to help the Spanish (some 400 strong pitiful force), even so we are still outnumbered almost three to one

The battle opens and the Spanish charge the enemy and keep them busy while my longbow pepper the enemy with arrows, My cavalry outflanks the enemy Kalifah while Billmen charge him they kill him, and the entire horde retreats off the field (All reinforcements flee as soon as they come on)

So 90% of the Almohads army gets trapped and all fleeing units get captured (all prisoners killed) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kataphraktoi
04-27-2003, 16:51
Always against the Turks

Since Byz troops are pretty good early a strong army of 700 - 900 defeating 3 times the size of mine but its not due to any stunning military innovation, just the fact that Alexius is one damn good general, that the byz army is able to do its job in close quarters especially melee, kataphraktoi crushing the flanks initiating an early retreat by the Turks and superb defensive position on a hill.

Although one thing I hate the most are turkish horsearchers chasing them around the battlefied until they tire and retreat.

The Blind King of Bohemia
04-28-2003, 12:14
I have had fun and kick ass battles but i get particular satisfaction when i beat the Swiss,simply because most of the time they beat seven shades of s**t out of me. So i was old blighty and under Lord Mortimer a 6 star general i invaded Switzerland and conquered it. But the Swiss invaded,some 1,000 strong mostly SAP,SP and some Halberdiers. I had 800 men consisting of Longbows,CMA,CS and A mixed breed of Gallowglasses,kerns and Highlanders held one of my flanks with a stiff force of CK feinforcing them. I watched in awe as the arrows rained down upon the 8 star Swiss kings army,then my highlanders and gallowglass engaged Swiss pikeman and they broke but there center held firm with there king and his sons pushing my center back but with crashing of Chivaric Knights in there rear it was all they could bear with old King Heinrich being cut down in the rout.
In the Battle i suffered 320 deaths compared to 785 Swiss. It might not have been the most professional battle but one still one of the coolest.

-Amon-
11-26-2003, 14:15
Quote[/b] (Arn de Gothia @ Feb. 13 2003,12:09)]Defending egypt:

Around 1600 enemy troops, including 1 crusade vs my 37 spearmen....

They lost: Around 1400
I lost: None....

And im NOT kidding....

Yours,
ARN http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
holy sh*t

is there any screenshot of it?it is so cool http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
wow,great job

Cebei
11-26-2003, 14:16
It was early-expert game with Turks.

I decided to attack constantinople while Turks are weak and Byzantians are powerful. My Turkish army (2200 men 4 star general) managed to defeat Byzantians (3800 men with 9 star emperor). Needless to say I had no units to counter powerful Byzantians, but after running around and tiring Byzantians, victory came rather easy. I couldnt capture the emperor, but anyway, emperor did not have an army to command after the battle.

Paxx
11-26-2003, 14:59
A battle against turks. Enemy more than 800 men defending with over 7 missile units and the 3 star sultan, on a ideal hill. My Byzantines with a 6 star general (not Emperor) and about 500 men. The numerous Alans charged the enemy missile troops until my BI and VG march to the top of the hill. Not even a singe arrow hit my infantry but the losses of cavalary were many-but worthed. The Sultan routed, about 300 turks fell in the battle and most of the rest captured.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
11-27-2003, 00:16
Well, this is going to be a looooooong story, so relax and get a confortable seat http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Two battles come to mind and in the same SP campaign:

Byzantine, Early, Normal, Small Unit Size:
After a progressive build-up of troops between 1087 and 1110 where I, the Turks and the Egyptians kept a close watch on each other, the last ones decided to make a move on their northern friends... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

After a few years of atriccional war between the two, in wich the Egyptians started gaining a dangerous ascendent over the Turks, I decided it was time to reap the profits of their tiresome effort, by invading Rum (now an Egyptian province).

With 2600 of selected troops and mercs (mostly trezb, BI, spearmen and some HA), lead by an 8 star General, against 400 of theirs, the Egyptians refused the battle and retired to the castle... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Just the following year, ALL( ) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Egyptian armies in ALL( ) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif adjacent provinces, decided to punish my treatchreous behaviour
So, my 2600 men were assaulted by no less than 4700( ), with the Sultan himself (6 star) commanding. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

The enemy army consisted of about 50%cav (with 5 Ghulam units, several Mamluk cav and Mamluk HA) and about 20%peasents. The rest were desertarchers, ghazi, saracen inf, etc...

Against the superiority of the enemy cav (4Ghulam in the entry army), only one solution:
-Highest hill covered with forest
As expected, the enemy charged up the hill, after a just a few voleys of arrows (dumb AI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif ).
To counter the Ghulam threat, my entry army included 6 spearmen units (including 1FS/1AS/2II), 6 BI, 3trezb ( stupid move I know ) and the general's unit.
Well, fortunatelly (cav+tree)=(one bad unit), even with Ghulam... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
So, while the Ghulam were engaged with my spearmen units, my BI flanked and attacked the saracen units that were climbing to help the Ghulams... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
After disposing of those boys, they charged the back of the remaining Ghulam, concentrating on the Sultan unit (the last one to charge), while my HA charged the enemy archers.
After this sucessful encirclement, all seemed going acording to plan.
However, 2 units of Ghazi that had been kept away by my trezb and HA, decided to charge the back of my BI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
My General, in fear that the situation got out of hand, didn't restrain himself of participating in the melee under the trees
As I said before: (cav+tree)=(one bad unit)
Fortunatelly, the Ghazi had been sufficiently hurt by my archers, to become a real threat, and after a fierce fight with the Kataphraktoi they routed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
However, the General's unit was reduced to 5 men http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif
In such a spot, without hope of help, the Ghulam started breaking up and routing. One after the other.
By this time, the pressure on the enemy General was increased by moving some released units into the fray.
After some more minutes of desperate fight by the Sultan and his men, they were finally overwelmed and killed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
The rest of the reinforcements were delt with just about the same tactics, and although causing some agravations to my exhausted men (even after my own reinforcements), their low morale and erratic behaviour allowed a bit of a breeder... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Result: although the losses in spearmen were too much for my liking ( 60%-70% - those ******* Ghulam are REALLY THOUGH ) almost all my men got up to 6 honour... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Men killed: 3143
Men taken: 153
Men lost: 520

And guess what? There was only one heir left
So, in the next few moves, the Egyptians were no more http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif


The other epic battle I remember, is later in this same campaign. Against... ...yes, you know... ...the Mongols.

Having read some of the forums members VAST battles in Khazar, I decided (after eliminating the Turkish and Egyptian) to give it a try

Little did I know what was coming http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

After some years of build-up (to heal the wounds), I had about 5700men in Khazar (specially heavy infantary), including spearmen merc (II, FS, RS, AS), BI, some VG and some AlanMercCav...

1230: The Horde arrives

I chose the obvious tactic:
-Backcorner of the map with the most trees

The battle itself was very similar, but the Mongols were pacient, only when out of arrows did they entered the forest. There they were held by my spearmen and cut to pieces by my BI and VG, while my AlanMercCav just sweeped the MW and MHA...

Of course, the Khan had the same faith as the Sultan... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Only problem in these battles:
-THEY ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

It lasted 510minutes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Men killed: 896
Men taken: 2085
Men lost: 176

And the ransom was sweeeeet:
-54985 florins...

And you know what?
As the Khan was dead, the other Mongol army became Rebel
And after that... ...my hired soldiers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Voigtkampf
11-27-2003, 08:14
They were few more succesful battles, but this one is the one that I remember the best...

HRE vs Egyptians
HRE: some 1200 troops all together, 4 star heir
Egyptians: Around 6000 battle hardened veterans under the leadership of a 9 star general... Egyptians always seem to have tons of those

Place of showdown: Croatia

Taking care of my own affairs, I was fighting the rests of the English and conquering the entire island (French were already conquered) when from the south-east the triumphant Egyptian army emerges... After sacking Constantinople, they advenced with an incredible speed toward my lands. Instead waiting for the war to come to me, I gathered a small force, as much as I could afford to pull of from other borders and have advanced on Croatia, which was conquered by them some few turns ago. My 1200 troops consisted from mostly spearmen, two units of archers and 5 units of Royals; the strongest unit I had was a merecenary unit of Italian infantry that I managed to hire shortly before the attack. I needed time to get my armies from England to Balkan, and this rather small expeditionary force, neither experienced nor exclusive, was suppose to provide time...


Though I was the attacker, I settled on a mild little hill, only one available on the map, with few spots of trees that provided no sufficient cover to my troops ( I had no terrain advantage either). I've set up the Italian mercenaries at the very center and formed a small defense line, putting archers safely behind them and my Royals on the flanks, but I was uncertain of the outcome, to say the least. The Egyptians, with various sorts of troops, tried first to outflank me with their Ghulam cav, gave than up on any restraining and charged ahead. Seconds before the clash, I sounded charge - the last, glorious charge - and have attacked them myself The ranks colided, steel on steel, muscle on muscle...and the line held I sent Royals from the flanks, attacking any engaged unit from behind that I could dare, would cut off the attack and pulled them back. In the meanwhile my spearmen where slightly falling back and I could feel that this was the turning point; I sent my heir against the generals unit (already engaged against Italian infantry)and have managed to kill him Their troops began wavering and soon they began running, my Royals at their tails, cutting them down. But their reinforcments were coming up the hill, determined, with or without the general. The blessing was that they were no longer as organised as they were before, and I've managed to defeat them in a long, five hours lasting battle that I've spent on the tip of my toes. Some of my troops routed, I manged to gather them and set them up in line again, but all the time the Italians stood firm.

It was most exciting; the troops exhausted, their moral worn down, archers without arrows, Royals reduced to 4-5 men per unit, desperatly holding a defense perimeter glued with good will and faith in miracles, and I managed to preveil Funny, at the very end of the confrontation, without any visible reason, the Italian mercs (reduced from 120 to 30 men) began routing. Well, I understood that, but it was a little unglorious end to a (IMHO) a legendary battle They were, none the less, granted safe haven in my main citadel until the very end of my campaign, honoring their success.

Total: around 700 men lost, almost 4000 Eggys killed, forgot the number of prisoners, and won time to regroup my forces...

In words of Nick Diamond Good fight, good night


PS But all this cannot be compared to the triumph of Elmo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
11-27-2003, 14:06
Quote[/b] ]It was most exciting; the troops exhausted, their moral worn down, archers without arrows, Royals reduced to 4-5 men per unit, desperatly holding a defense perimeter glued with good will and faith in miracles, and I managed to preveil

Good description...
I felt just the same in my battle against the Egyptians... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It was close until the end, because my troops were exhausted and, near the end, did rout a couple of times
But I was able to rally them back... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

PseRamesses
11-27-2003, 15:38
Defending Tripoli, playing the French against the Egyptians. Got this great map with a really steep hill the attackers had to climb.
From the start I got around 2300 men and the Egyptians 3400.
Located my 8 units of bowmen on the top of the hill with two spears in front. Behind theese, hidden from the attackers view I had 6 knights.
When the attacker finally had reach my spearmen I charged them with my knights chasing them of the map.
Replaced my 8 archers with 6 new and added 2 knights.
This time the enemy came with mainly peasants so I let them climb the hill letting my knights rest and then.... well at the end I lost 67 men and killed 2316
After the battle I counterattacked, dividing my army into three taking Palestine, Antioch and Syria so now I´m firmly set in the Middle East, muahahaha, bring em´ on

Voigtkampf
11-28-2003, 07:16
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Nov. 27 2003,07:06)]
Quote[/b] ]It was most exciting; the troops exhausted, their moral worn down, archers without arrows, Royals reduced to 4-5 men per unit, desperatly holding a defense perimeter glued with good will and faith in miracles, and I managed to preveil


It was close until the end, because my troops were exhausted and, near the end, did rout a couple of times
But I was able to rally them back... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]Good description...
I felt just the same in my battle against the Egyptians... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Then you should fully understand the thrill of it, Aymar

I have once defended a castle (fortress level, if I remember correctly) entrance with a single unit of spearmen. An army of thousand (+/-) enemies attacked, got wiped out by arrow towers and have died and routed, reassembled and attacked again (they had no artilery whatsoever)untill they were almost all dead. Then I broke out of the castle and attacked the tattered remnants. Lost few men and killed even more I also slaughtered armies of peasants with my armored knights, sweeping them away in seconds...

But there is no honor or glory in that... Give me a no-way-out situation and I will smile and clash http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
11-28-2003, 14:23
Quote[/b] ]Give me a no-way-out situation and I will smile and clash
Absolluuuuuutelly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

theadept
11-28-2003, 21:52
i killed 100% of the enemy and lost no-one
300 against 7

HawaiianHobbit
11-29-2003, 00:31
Almost 3000 French peasant types vs 1700 hardened English. I killed about 2500 and lost only 33.

TheSilverKnight
11-29-2003, 04:13
Russians at Mongols, at Golden Khanate, 81 lost, 1704 Mongols killed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif great battle http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

FoundationII
11-30-2003, 14:46
It's easy to have those battles, you have a peasant revolt when you're playing at easy, and you counter it with an army made of royal knights, hit them in the flanks when they attack and they'll flee without much hesitation.
You'll capture them all because they have nowhere to go, and then press kill them all: you killed all 2000 peasants with only 20 royal knights lost http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Dogmeat
12-01-2003, 16:03
Briefly as i think i've described it before.

The situation: I play as the russians. I'm allied with the egyptains and I have finished off the horde and am expanding southwards. Fighting a long war against the Turks. The turks last stand is Syria, with my mostly veteran force under the leadership of the king, I finish them off. I am invaded by the Hungarians and the Polish to the north the next turn. Panicing as I'm running low on troops from the previous back to back two wars. I send almost all my elite stack with the king northwards to counter the threat. I leave 4 delpeted units of spearmen to garrison the citadel in Syria (160 basic spearmen in total)

The next turn. Virtually all of the Egyptain army invade Syria. I'm talking about six full stacks (they were doing pretty well this turn for some reason).

Insteading of leaving the province, i figure what the hell and try and hold onto it. A massive battle follows. By a stroke of luck, my ballista tower manages to destroy their trebuchet. So they charge the gates. Wave after wave of egyptains pile against my brave spearmen who desperately try to hold them outside the walls. Due to constant arrow and ballista fire, the huge amount of bodies is a sight to behold. Eventually they break through and slaughter my noble spearmen.
Sadly arrow tower kills don't go on the kill list. But they were reduced to just over one stack, and their king was brandly a total coward for fleeing in terror.
Ok not a victory, but it enabled my forces to easily extract bloody vengence on those fiends. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-01-2003, 16:50
Quote[/b] ]Ok not a victory, but it enabled my forces to easily extract bloody vengence on those fiends.

Loooooovelly http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Dogmeat
12-01-2003, 17:20
well it was sure was lovely yes, thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Meaning the egyptains crumbled into civil war and my victorious forces from the north crushed them to a bloody pulp a few turns later. Victory in the long run methinks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Rivelin
12-02-2003, 13:29
My best battle was 3 v 3 multiplayer - I was Swiss on the right and my allies were English and German I think. Opposing players attacked the left and middle (I think after seeing the SAP), doubling the English. I sent my 5 swiss armoured pikes over to assist but my allies routed off the field.
My swiss joined the fray and after a very long and close battle somehow won the day. It gives me a warm feeling just to think of it... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Black Arrow
12-02-2003, 14:13
Not really a major fray but a very satisfying ambush in Shogun. Playing Takeda I had a small ragtag garrison force left over from a previous battle: 19 yari Cavalry, 25 no-dachi and 10 yari samurai. The enemy (Hojo) with 2 full 60's of Sam Archers backed with another 2 of Yari Ashigaru attacked uphill through a narrow gap between two woods. I Put he cavalry in one wood, the no-dachi in the other and left the YS a little way back uphill looking pale but determined.

As the archers came through the neck I hit them in flank with the cavalry in wedge and they broke and recoiled into the no-dachi coming the other way. They then trampled back through the YA's and all ran for it. My cavalry had lots of target practice

Hojo lost 163 Takeda lost 1

Somebody Else
12-03-2003, 01:03
I have to say one of my best was when I attacked the French who had taken Aragon off the Aragonese... they had 3000+ men, I had around 1200. I was attacking over a river. Routed the first wave and took many heads... well, not really. Just killed a lot of people... The second wave arrived - they weren't as good, but my men were exhausted - so I had some more fighting to do... but I got rid of them as well. In the end, ~1800 kllls, for ~600 losses. Not too bad, if a little casualty high - especially amongst my cavalry.
Nonetheless, I thought it a good result for assaulting a superior force across a river. (On expert of course)

ShaiHulud
12-03-2003, 22:11
My most difficult battle was when I had a full stack and was attacked by TWO full allied armies, simultaneously.

Don't recall the casualty figures, but, the battle consisted of me holding a small incline. I charged down on my right after directing all my archers on two units. They were depleted by archery and broke under assault, leading to the gradual crumbling of the army on my right.

This put my army in a right-angle to the other allied army. My left flank charged down while what was left on my right got the enemy's flank. It was a win but my army was much abused.

lancer63
12-03-2003, 22:38
Highest kill ratio diferential the Hungarians vs the GH in Kiev, 2,500+ dead mongols to 500+ huns. But doesn't coun to me cause in bridge battles you can contain a 100,000 men army with only 1,000 goons.
Best battle was takin trebizond from the Biz long time ago. My turkish HAs had a field day killing Katas Biz lost around 1500 mostly heavy cav. and biz infantry, including a 4 star prince, to 400+ of my boys, mostly ghazi and armenian cav. Very mobile battle. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

alfred the great
12-04-2003, 14:52
Just had 4 in a row vs the Scandiwegians. Only playing Normal (I'm a Civ vet and I know how depressing a first game is at Hard).

My army is traditional English - longbow, spear, feud foot, plus knights - total 750. Opponents all 2000+. Each win better than the last - Finland went with 790 dead and 580 captured to my 34 dead - and I suspect they were mostly friendly fire.

Had to keep my 9 star (plus 1 plus 3) general at the back though - I think by Finland, if he'd coughed too loudly early on the enemy would have broken...

Actually, I jest - the enemy fought hard in every battle, but I took care to target their best troops and to outflank with my cav.

Gregoshi
12-04-2003, 15:44
Hello alfred. Thanks for joining the Org this fine day. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Scandiwegians? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif I never heard that word before. Love it.

Michiel de Ruyter
12-04-2003, 18:14
My top four:


[4] Medieval TW. Playing the British, with an army of peasants, two units of chivalric sargeants, two of vikings, one royal knights and two units of cavalry sergeants. Opponent with Italian light infantry, chiv sergeants and chivalric knights. Equal in number. Sole advantage I had was having a 8 star general and two 6 star generals as well. Attacker had a 4 star.

I anchored my line on my right flank on the woods. I deployed my royal knights and one unit of vikings in them as flanking force. Main battle line were peasants, with at 1/3 from each end of the line a unit of chiv sergs as reinforcements. On the left flank I deployed a unit of vikings and mounted sergs. I deployed one unit of mounted sergs, with my commander on my right flank as reserve.

He clashed with my line, and my peasants fought brilliantly. Then, when I attacked with my vikes and mounted sergs on the left flank he had to commit his tactical reserve in order to stabilize... Unfortunately I had to commit my reserves on my right flank (chiv and mtd sergs). Then my ambush force came in on his left flank, and at the same time I threw my chiv sergs against the juncture between his right wing an center.... at which point he collapsed...... first his right wing, and then his left wing... which broke an ran, and left the center no choice but to follow their example... I lost 60 % casualty, among them my commander... he lost 55% of his army killed, even though his force was about equal in number and far superior in quality (except for commanders).

[3] The largest battle I have fought so far, 5500 of my brave Uesugi warriors and 500 Oda allies facing 3500 Shimazu warriors, including the Shimazu Daimyo. The Shimazu had deployed on a fairly steep hill, on the edge of the map... an infantry line of yari samurai, No Dachi samurai, with a good number of archers covering them... My allies attacked first, and dislodged the enemy infantry from the Shimazu right... leaving their archers uncovered, so I quickly sent in my cavalry to attack them... Part of his infantry ran to help defend them, (and left their archers in the center uncovered) so I withdrew my cavalry, charged his infantry with mine, and sent the cavalry back around my army to attack his archers in the center... when that job was finished, I was able to sandwich the army he had left between the Oda and my trops... then the reinforcements of his side came in... It took forever, and got quite scry, as during the whole battle I recieved only 3 units of cavalry as reinforcements... Eventually I won... losing 950 of my own men (of an army at the start of the battle of 1300, and having withdrawn 200 archers halfway during the battle, and have 200 troops rout http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif ), and killing over 3000 of his. My star unit killed 542 enemy soldiers...

[2] Again playing Uesugi the Shimazu attacked.. the battle was fought on a plain, with woods in the right center... He utnumbered me, 1900 to 1600... The weather was a medium fog...
The battle opened with his cavalry archers charging in, whom I quickly attacked with my yari cavalry... he then sent in his units piecemal to help out the cavalry, and then eachother... Every time I coould take them in the flank... When I had only engaged about 1/5 of my left flank, his right flank began to crumble, and his center fell bak on the woods... so I ordered the rest of my army to advance, in the hope of turning his left, and make the forest the playce his army would be slaughtered... as soon as he saw that, he broke and ran. I lost 150 men, he lost 700...

[1] Again in shogun, again playing the Uesugi, IIRC facing the Takeda. Battlefield had highground on my left, with me being the invader... I immediately charged up the high ground, and sent some infantry there and routed the archers and few ground troops he had there... To my surpsise I found out that my cavalry was now behind the bulk of his army, so I quickly engaged it with my infantry... as soon as that was done, I charged the cavalry into the rear and right flank of his army... A repeat of Cannae ensued.. I lost 70, he lost almost 1600 men KIA.
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Etym
12-05-2003, 04:10
Hi, NEWBIE here. A small, unimportant (but very satisfying) battle: a garrison of 60 Clansmen held Champagne in the early years of an Early English campaign. The French attacked with 120 archers and 60 urban militia. The map set me up on the base of a wooded ridge, just above a narrow valley, and across from another wooded ridge. I started the Clansmen uphill. There was a shelf near the top of the ridge that would just hold 60 warriors in a box formation. It was fronted by a short and steep slope that was relatively clear ground. One group of archers marched along the edge of the trees while the urban militia followed my trail. The other archers slowly followed the militia, and stopped out of range.
I was waiting on the shelf long enough to regain full energy. It was a long climb, and the militia got to me at the end of it. They paused for breath at the bottom of the slope, and that's when I charged them. The archers were standing close enough to charge me, but they just kept pumping arrows into the trees. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
UM is no match for HC, and they broke within 2 minutes. I chased them just past the tree line on the slope away from the archers, then let them go. There were about 16 left.
I headed back to the shelf, and the AI let me get there. By the time I'd re-formed, the archers either ran out of arrows or just decided to charge. They charged, and so did I. They broke within 2 minutes, and fled through the trees. Big mistake. They were down to about 20 when they hit the last group of archers coming up the ridge. The 2 French formations were delayed long enough for my HC to catch them all. It was murder.
I'm estimating, but I lost about 22 and they were down 135+. What fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

andy the lionheart
12-05-2003, 08:16
i was the english against the french
I had 600 they had 1500 the battle was great the fields where paved with french dead. I lost 150 men the french lost 750 dead and 389 pow which of course i put the sword.
the plantagnet family nice bunch arnt we.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Dhepee
12-05-2003, 17:38
I was up against the Italians in Sicily. I was playing as the HRE.
Sicily was the last Italian province. The AI's strategy seemed to be, retreat until they had 8 stacks in one province.
I had a smaller army but it was tougher. In fact it only had two unit types: Swiss armored pikemen and gothic knights. I had about 3 stacks of this. The Italian army was a mixed bag running everywhere from Late Royal Knights down to peasents. There were a lot of CMAA, Italian Infantry, and Halbs.
I decided that since my army was so slow moving, SAP and Gothic knights are not very nimble, that the simples thing was wade right into the center, rout the army on the field and pull back to fight an offensive defense.
I used goldboxing to line my men up in a V support on either flank so that it looked like this _ . The point was made up of SAP with the flanks made up of Gothic Foot Knights. I had 4 units of Gothic Knights in reserve. in the rear so that the final arrangement was
_
-- --
The point of the triangle was closed, damn keyboard.
I advanced into the Italian line using alt-advance to keep people in line. The point hit first and immediately the enemy line swarms the flanks of the triangle. The wings then closed around the enemy attacking my flanks. Outflanking the flankers. Cut them to pieces but did not pursue the routing soldiers. Instead I withdrew to midfield and waited for the reinforcements. Each time the reinforcements came the attacked me, giving me the advantage of a defensive line made up of SAP. One the second go round I captured their king with my Gothic Knights. At this point I did pursue the remnants of the enemy with my mounted reserve and then pulled the reserve back to let the next wave get hung up on my pikes.
The last wave was about 8 units of mounted sargents. I let them hit my pikes, rode the mounted reserve around behind them and let it all unfold. Mounted Sargents do not do well against SAP and Gothic Knights.
I killed the prisoners to get rid of the king myself and to not have to see the same army revolting against me.
Final Tally:
Italians: Out of 8 Stacks almost 4000 killed
HRE: Out of roughly 3 stacks 186 killed.
It was one of the most fun battles ever and it only happened because the Italians insisted on retreating until their backs were to the wall

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-07-2003, 03:08
Well, it just happened last weekend

SP, Campaign, Early, GA, Small Unit Size, Normal dificulty; I'm not a PRO like some of you guys... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif


Campaign Description:

After crushing the Spanish (huuuummm... ...feels good... ...I wonder why? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ) and Aragonese, I built up the economy and only about 50-60years later I really started making my presence felt.

Until 1330 most Christian factions had wiped out each other (Danes, Novgorod, Hungarians, Papacy and the Byz remaining) and the Turks were defeated by the Byz and Egyptians (I crushed these last ones before they got too strong). The Danes (my allies then) built up a powerfull commercial empire with some overseas posessions (Genoa, Venice, Sicily, Malta, Naples).

Before that period (1300), I had expanded to southern France after all of North Africa, Middle East and Anatolia fell under my domain. I didn't want or needed to conquer more (GA game), so although I had massive armies in the European border to keep the Catholics from attacking I wasn't planning in going further. However, by around 1360, the Danes were eventually convinced that they needed to take care of my expanding navy. After their attacks my profit went from 15000 to -20000florins a year http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Needless to say it was a loooooong war. First to repel the Danes in France's borders, keep repeling the Mongols in Khazar (they had Volga-Bulgaria since 1231), keep the Papacy from pissing me off (borders with the Papal States and Rome), trying to keep the powerfull Hungarians and Byzantines from taking sides and finally crushing the multitude of rebellions that had started due to the war...

Against the Danes, the deciding factor would be the control of the seas. Absolute naval power had to be achieved.
In the first few naval battles (first 10 years), I was seriously beeing hurt (loosing 15-20 ships a year for 10 of the Danes http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif ), only after that things got better to my admirals.
However, since I had ALL my sea provinces producing ships and had 700000florins in reserve, this bleeding could be sustained for quite some time.

But naval power would not be enough. I had to cripple their economy besides the trade. In a few years I attacked and gained Genoa, Normandy, Champagne and Malta . After a desperate push to regain Champagne, the main Danish armies (3000men) in that province were surrounded, because I took Lorraine and Flanders in the next move. One of my 9-star general against the Danish heir (4-star) was all that was needed to take Champagne again and defeat the main threat in the East of France. I expanded no further because I was starting to have too many borders to control and the Hungarians, who had most of Central Europe, were massivelly building up their armies.

A few years later (around 1390), I was winning the naval war against the remaining Danish warships and some of my commerce income was back. I now controled most of the Mediterranean and was in a tough battle in the Straits of Gibraltar and the remaining westerns seas. This allowed me to capture Malta, Venice, Naples and Sicily.

However, in the North, the British Isles were a problem. Danish shipbuilders kept pumping too many ships for my liking. I had to stop it and cripple their naval power for good. But, although I had stopped improvements on lands in the beggining of the war, I was now badly needing money. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

So I decided to explore two different strategies. One to invade Wessex from Flanders and the other to raid every Danish posession left. Since I had expelled them from the Mediterranean, they were all in the North.

After gaining the control of the western and north seas, the Danish armies in the British Isles couldn't be reinforced or helped. 8 armies remained stuck in Ireland. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
After I captured Wessex, there was a rebellion in Scotland and another in Wales where the French reapeared
So I captured Northumbria with a small army (1400men), but a very good general (8-star).
I did it to lure the remaining Danish armies in Mercia (4000men) to attack me in Northumbria.
Why? Well, defending Mercia is very easy when attacking from Wessex. You always get a river.
It worked out. They attacked Northumbria with about 3000men. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
My army was small, but had an advantage: 4 Serpentines. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
They worked like a charm, and after some minutes of bombardment the enemy general (3-star) was dead... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
The rest of the army, erratic and uncertain was sweeped from the field by lures and encirclements. Mercia fell on the next move.
Another interesting thing. The ransomed army was released in Ireland, making the green island a repository for unmovable Danish forces (16 armies). http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Besides, the ransom was sweet: about 16000.

Meanwhile one of my raiding armies was capturing Norway, Sweden and Denmark (taking GA points from the Danes), while the other dismantled all improvements in Finland, Novgorod, Livonia, Lithuania, Prussia, Pomerania and Brandenburg, all Danish provinces.

To my armies in Flanders and Lorraine, were opposed the last big reserves of the Danish, in Friesland and Franconia. Each province on both sides had about 6000men.
But, after defeating the several armies that guarded the raided provinces, I noticed that Saxony had only 300men http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Saxony, Denmark, Brandenburg and Prussia were the Danish main troop and ship producers...

So I took a chance and attacked Saxony with 1600men, while attacking Friesland and Franconia from Flanders and Lorraine, with 3000men each. I did it to stop the AI from sending armies from Friesland and Franconia to reinforce Saxony. It worked alright the first time and I captured Saxony without a fight. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
In the next move I did the same, while I tried to storm the castle. But the AI wasn't fooled again. It decided that Saxony was too important to loose and stormed the province with 9800 men http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
And guess who was in command? The Danish King (4-star) acompanied by one of his sons (5-star) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif


Battle Description:

Year: 1417
Location: Saxony

Forces: Danish 9800 - Almohad 1600
Terrain: Flat with very low hills.

Commanding Generals:
Danish: King Karl II; 4-star.
Almohad: Prince Ismail; 7-star (+1 Skilled Defender).

Entry Armies:
Danish: 2 Royal Knights, 7 Chivalric Sargeants, 1 Chivalric Men-At-Arms, 2 Pavise Arbalesters, 1 Bombard, 1 Catapult, 1 Balista, 1 Mangonel.
Almohad: 1 Ghulam BodyGuards, 3 Muwahid Foot Soldiers, 1 Saracen Infantry, 2 Almohad Urban Militia, 4 Ghazi Infantry, 5 Serpentine Crew.

I moved my army the furthest back that was possible, to avoid enemy siege weapons, use altitude to my advantage and to tire the enemy. Unfortunatelly, the terrain was very flat, not allowing defensive advantages.
I also had to be extra carefull on reinforcements, as the numerical disadvantage was enormous. Too late and my army would rout, too soon and my last men would be too tired for anything...

The enemy army aproached nice and tight, just like I wanted them to do... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Then my serpentines started to fire the rain of death. I was hoping to knock the King in the first few shots and then weaken his army suficientely to counter-attack. I wanted to to use my cav to flank, while my MFS and SI holded the RK and my AUM and GI trashed the remaining CS.
Although some CS were hit, the serpentines were being very inacurate and uneasiness was creeping trough.
Not only the King was alive and well, but the RK were untouched. I was sensing panic aproaching, as no general, no matter how good he is, can aliviate such huge diference in forces unless something happens to the moral of the enemy troops. A little bit over maximum longbow distance, the aim got better. 2 CS were slaughtered in with 3 shots. And just after that the sublime message:

The Enemy King Has Been Killed In Battle. The Morale Of The Enemy Has Been Reduced. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

After that, the other unit of RK took a direct shot and was reduced to 12men. Then they all charged. As planned, the MFS and SI units held the remaining RK, while my AUM units charged the battered CS. 2 GI were released on the back of each of the RK and the other 2 on the CMAA and CS remaining. Prince Ismail made a fast envolvment manouver and crashed on the back of the CMAA. Just 1min was enough and the enemy army routed. A few of those who had escaped the steel ring were chased by my GBG, the others shoot by my serpentine crews.

But still 9300 enemy men remained. However, they were mostly Vikings, Highland Clansmen, Crossbows, Arbalesters and some Peasents. I released the serpentine crews and brought 3GBG and 2AHC to chase the next armies (mainly infantry). The enemy still had, among all those, 2Units of Mounted Sargeants, 2 of RK, 1 of FK, 3CS and 2 of Halbardiers. My tactics were these:

-When most of the enemy were skirmishers, hold their heavy infantry with mine, and sweep the skirmishers with my cav, by circling around the other units.
-When they had cav, fixed them with spear units, hiting them on the back with GI. Skirmishers the same as before.
-When they had mostly heavy infantry hold them with AUM, flank with spear and GI, to finally hitting them on the back with cav.

It worked flawlessly... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

And another few things:

-Of course I NEVER chased the enemy with inf. And only a short distance with cav.
-Whenever I could, I used the units sequencially, to allow them a breeder. This increased the length of time that each unit was available on field.

But it was close. When the last enemy units entered the field, all my units were tired and they were the last ones

However, I got lucky. Frustrated, the AI, just like the huge battles in Kazar against the Mongols, entered the field with the last 16 units, but did not move to engage, keeping them in the other side of the map... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Final Report:
Men Killed: 1125
Men Captured: 4376
Men Lost: 303

Ransom (even sweeter than the previous): 29603florins

With this battle, Price Ismail got an Expert Defender (+2 while defending) and Skilled Last Stand (+1 when defending outnumbered more than 2:1)... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The provinces of Franconia and Friesland fell in the same year, because they had no men to counter my fake attack.

After that battle was finished, the spine of Danish power had been broken, and their total obliteration is just a question of a few moves... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Voigtkampf
12-07-2003, 08:16
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

OMG Lord Aymar, this is gooood... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I enjoyed the reading very much, since you brought it down in a very appeasing manner Well done And for strategy and tactic themselves, very well performed Congratulations http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Surprisingly though that you had so much trouble with the Danes; in all of my times fighting I never stood against them as a dangerous enemy, they were always a beggars faction since they almost always go broke and keep breeding princes. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif Glad to hear they've put up a heroic fight , before being stumped into ground by our fearless Lord Aymar de Bois Mauri

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-07-2003, 20:59
Quote[/b] ] http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
OMG Lord Aymar, this is gooood... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


I enjoyed the reading very much, since you brought it down in a very appeasing manner Well done And for strategy and tactic themselves, very well performed Congratulations http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

*bows*

I'm gratefull for such courtesy. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I'm extremelly pleased that you have enjoyed...
Since I'm a throughness maniac (read: boring), I have (and I like) to keep my readers interested. That's why I usually try to imerse them in the thrill of the campaign and of the battles in particular...
As for the strategy and tactics, thank you again for your apreciation. Although aceptable, they are probably nothing, compared to what some of the ORG's PROs should be able to do. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif



Quote[/b] ]Surprisingly though that you had so much trouble with the Danes; in all of my times fighting I never stood against them as a dangerous enemy, they were always a beggars faction since they almost always go broke and keep breeding princes.
Well, I have to be honest. The Danes profited from two different factors:

-The great battles that opposed HRE, France and England. They were all tree at war with each other, for more than 60 years When the Danish expanded to France, England and Germany, these nation's armies were extremelly depleted. Besides, the Danes probably had a colossal trade income (Venice, Genoa, Sweden, etc...) from early on the game, which allowed them to build very large armies.
-I was alied with them from about 1100 up to 1360. I attacked some of those at war with them (French, Italians). I protected them for quite some time. Purelly comercial purposes... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

But you're right. They tend to have weak armies in quality and not too many good generals. But since it was a GA game, I didn't put them on a tight spot. Not before I realised that they were dangerous...

*bows*

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Edit: I only opened my campaign again today (hadn't since last weekend), and I was wrong with a couple of things:

1-About the armies in Ireland. They have the correct numbers now.
2-About the time period. I mixed it up with my Polish campaign. It was much later than I thought. But the gaps between years were about the same. Now they also have the correct data.

BTW, love your SIG

Voigtkampf
12-08-2003, 07:19
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Dec. 07 2003,13:59)]As for the strategy and tactics, thank you again for your apreciation. Although aceptable, they are probably nothing, compared to what some of the ORG's PROs should be able to do. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
I guess that's always the case... No matter how good you are, there is always someone better... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif But that's just life http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif IMHO, it was good - after all, it worked, right?

As for my SIG, I'm glad you like it; it's not just a sig, it's a life moto. Every day when I woke up I ask myself if I could perform better than I did in something; I am my own greatest competitor http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif

Damn, I'm gonna get myself tomorrow http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

See you around, space cowboy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-08-2003, 19:35
Quote[/b] ]IMHO, it was good - after all, it worked, right?
Yeah, it did work... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
But in Normal, it had to. Right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif


Quote[/b] ]Every day when I woke up I ask myself if I could perform better than I did in something;
Good aproach...


Here are some of the end of the battle images (just to grasp the scale of the slaughter even on Small unit size):

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%201.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%202.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%203.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%204.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%205.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%206.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%207.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%208.jpg


http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%209.jpg


Final statistics:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%20Statistics.jpg


The sweet ransom:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20SP%20Campaign%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%20Ransom.jpg


The green island Danish Repository:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/aymar%20de%20bois%20mauri%20sp%20campaign%20danish%20repository.jpg


The Hungarian front:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/aymar%20de%20bois%20mauri%20sp%20campaign%20the%20hungarian%20front.jpg


Maybe I'll upload some in-action images later.
I'll put the images in another post when that happens. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Edit: Some more pictures added. Maybe in-action later...

chilling
12-09-2003, 11:01
Cor blimey, Guv.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-09-2003, 18:50
Quote[/b] ]Cor blimey, Guv.
I'll take that as a compliment... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ...I guess?

BDC
12-09-2003, 19:02
http://cronusbdc.tripod.com/viking.jpg

Hehe. You might need to copy and paste it...

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-09-2003, 19:33
Quote[/b] ]Hehe. You might need to copy and paste it...
Was that image yours? I had already seen that image on a Vice & Virtues post. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Even with bad vice & virtues I never suicide them. They are always usefull. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

And they still say that huscarles are balanced... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ludens
12-09-2003, 20:22
Beautifull, Aymar de Bois Mauri. Just Beautifull. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif At suchs moment my fingers just itch to fight such a battle and take such pictures. But it never works out that way. Ahh, practice makes perfect.

I hope we can see some CNN-AdBM coverage of the battle.

Ludens

Voigtkampf
12-09-2003, 21:39
Wonderful pictures of mass slaugther, Lord Aymar - perhaps few too many, judging by the time it took to load the entire page http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif Too bad I don't have any of those any more since my hard disk took a dive some while ago... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif But it makes me want to go out and recreate those glorious times once again

Compliments and regards http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-10-2003, 02:43
Quote[/b] ]Beautifull, Aymar de Bois Mauri. Just Beautifull.

Quote[/b] ]Wonderful pictures of mass slaugther, Lord Aymar
*bows*

I'm most honoured by such pleasent words.




Quote[/b] ]At such moment my fingers just itch to fight such a battle and take such pictures.

Quote[/b] ]But it makes me want to go out and recreate those glorious times once again
By all means, please do...




Quote[/b] ]I hope we can see some CNN-AdBM coverage of the battle.

Quote[/b] ]perhaps few too many, judging by the time it took to load the entire page

I'll post some in-action pics tomorrow, in this thread but in a different post, not to tax too much the connections.

*bows*

Praise to you, my Lords... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Voigtkampf
12-10-2003, 09:57
Quote[/b] (Aymar de Bois Mauri @ Dec. 09 2003,19:43)]
Quote[/b] ]But it makes me want to go out and recreate those glorious times once again
By all means, please do...
I did it again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Last night I've spent another four hours playing M:TW, four hours I couldn't afford myself to lose, but I did anyway

Talking about stimulae... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-10-2003, 13:17
Quote[/b] ]
Quote[/b] ]
Quote[/b] ]
But it makes me want to go out and recreate those glorious times once again

By all means, please do...

I did it again http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Last night I've spent another four hours playing M:TW, four hours I couldn't afford myself to lose, but I did anyway

Talking about stimulae... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

HEHEHEHE... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Volucer
12-12-2003, 12:50
This just happend the other day.

French, Normal, Dom

It's around 1270 and I have a 7 star general with an army of crack units. 6 Chivalric Knights (trained in Toulouse), 3 Halberdiers, 4 CHMAA, 2 Chivalric Seargents all with lvl 2 weapon upgrades and lvl 3 armor upgrades. I cultivated these guys for about 6 battles until they all had at least 2 valour on their own which was raised by general's valour to 6-7.

It's late and I'm getting bored so I decide to attack the GH just for kicks with this army. It was 800 vs 8000.

At first I just sit back and let them come to me, destroying their Heavy Cavalry with my Halberdiers. After the first couple of waves, I decided to advance on their rally point. I had no real strategy except engage them with my Halberdiers and flank them with the other units. This went on forever. I kept hoping that THIS was the last wave. Then I'd see another couple hundred soldiers coming. Finally when I was down to about 300 men, their last wave came and all my exhausted soldiers managed to hold off and to rout them.

In the end I lost about 500 and killed/captured about 6000. It was on normal, but still that was awesome. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I didn't go on with that game, just wanted the battle for fun, and I didn't want to lose that many veteran troops for some crappy province.

Harberdiers are now the main units in my infantry armies. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I have the replay to prove it too. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-12-2003, 13:21
Congratulations... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



Quote[/b] ]I have the replay to prove it too.
You don't need to prove anything... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


Although posting some images would please everyone. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Volucer
12-12-2003, 14:38
Quote[/b] ]You don't need to prove anything...

I would by I don't have any webspace atm. I'll talk with the guy who normally host my stuff later and find out what wrong with my login. In the mean time, do you know anyone else who can host a cpl 300kb images?

Volucer
12-12-2003, 15:08
oops, I meant to quote:

Quote[/b] ]Although posting some images would please everyone.

Seems I'm not allowed to edit my posts. :\

Volucer
12-12-2003, 15:52
Ok got my login fixed. Here's some screenies.

This is the beginning.
http://savage.team-freelance.com/misc/start.jpg

This is after the first few waves.
http://savage.team-freelance.com/misc/middle.jpg

This is one of their final waves.
http://savage.team-freelance.com/misc/near-end.jpg

This is the end. Bodies are stacked 3 deep. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
http://savage.team-freelance.com/misc/end.jpg

Volucer
12-12-2003, 15:57
Here's the replay. 800v8000 (http://savage.team-freelance.com/misc/800v8000.zip)

Shamus
12-12-2003, 16:42
Wow, I can’t quote numbers that high. I had a battle last night to defend a province in which I had about 700 units and was attacked by about 3000. I killed roughly 2600 of their men, including those who I executed as the game progressed. They took about 50 of my units. Of course, many of their units were peasants, so it wasn’t really an impressive victory.

Shortly thereafter in the same province I had a rather humorous thing happen. The Italians had sent a crusade against one of the provinces I had just stolen from the Egyptians (the crusade had left before I took the province). The crusade attacked with an equal number of forces, and slightly inferior units. The one really noticeable difference though was that my men were battle-hardened veterans with high levels of valor and a five star general. Their units had low valor and a one star general.

I positioned my men on the side of a hill to defend and watched the enemy slowly make their way across the field. As soon as their general’s unit was in range I began to fire on him with all four units of desert archers. Before their units even made it to my front line of Nubian spearmen, their general’s body hit the ground dead. Every one of their units turned and fled. I killed nearly all their routing soldiers who were on foot, and a number of those on horseback. The funny thing was that I didn’t loose a single unit. I think maybe I should up the difficulty level on my next campaign. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-12-2003, 18:24
Great Pics, Volucer http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


Shamus wrote:

Quote[/b] ]I positioned my men on the side of a hill to defend and watched the enemy slowly make their way across the field. As soon as their general’s unit was in range I began to fire on him with all four units of desert archers. Before their units even made it to my front line of Nubian spearmen, their general’s body hit the ground dead. Every one of their units turned and fled. I killed nearly all their routing soldiers who were on foot, and a number of those on horseback. The funny thing was that I didn’t loose a single unit.
Not 1 men lost Bravo, Shamus http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Classic tactics and great result http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

The_678
12-12-2003, 22:51
My best battle was as the HRE. I was quelling a rebellion with about 300 roayl knights. The enemy was 4000 peasants. I slaughtered 3000 of them and lost only 30 men It was amazing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Somebody Else
12-13-2003, 01:26
Fighting against the emerging mongol horde, I took 11395 heads (I don't take prisoners) and lost 2137 men. Unfortunately my general fled the field with his tail between his legs. Ah well... it was good anyway. (Though I probably shouldn't have gone on the offensive towards the end.

The Blind King of Bohemia
12-14-2003, 15:49
I have had some great battles on my BKB mod but a few stand out especially the allied ones i'm lucky to have. The English always seem to have it hard especially from the Celtic factions and imagine to my dismay as a three pronged assault by the Welsh and scots with there French allies hit Wessex. I have no choice but to fight off these armies intent on the destruction of Englands power.
I have but 1100 men but there is a hardcore element of mercenaries such as Moorish infantry and a small element of Kievian Druzhina and Croatian Urban Militia holding the shaking line together.
The Welsh have a mainly foot army with a motely band of Spearmen, urban militia and peasants of some 500.
King Adam leads the Scottish host which is strong with Lowland and highland Clansman eager for the fight. They number some 700.
The French have sent a a predominantly cavalry force of 600 hobilars, mounted sergeants, feudal knights and royal knights, also a small contingent of Feudal men at arms gives some steel to the French line.

The French make a foolish mistake. They make an insane cavalry charge at the left flank of my army with no infantry or allied support. They simply hope to overwhelm my line. They are wrong. The spearmen hold the left hand line together while the Kievain Druzhina cut down the Beleagured horseman. Just as the cavalry charge looks like it is going to push through, a contingent of royal knights under my heir william strike. The French charge turns to flight as they leave hundreds of dead and wounded on the hillside. I send some hobilars in pursuit as one of the enemy is seen off.

The Scots and Welsh however are not so stupid. They march together and co-ordinate there charge more effectively. Yet i did lose alot of force on my left repelling that cavalry charge and so my King and his guard along with some 200 peasants are in reserve on the left, supporting the few hundred Druzhina and Spearmen.

The highlanders and lowlanders crash into the center of my line but it does not buckle. The Croatian Urban Milita along with the Moorish infantry go head to toe with the Scots. The right also holds the Welsh with my other heir Richard along with Feudal knights and a depleted force of Gallowglass and archers fight the men from the Valleys.
Suddendly disaster strikes. The rest of the Scots under there Prince Adam and the remainding French Feudal men at arms pierce the left flank. My king, his bodyguard and a few hundred peasants immediately engage the oncoming horde. The fight is desperate to say the least.
Yet, the Welsh on the right are repulsed as the Hobilars that were pursuing the French return to smash into the rear of the Welsh. As there General is cut down it is all to much and they flee and are remoreslessly pursued by the hobilars and the feudal knights, who cut them down in droves.
Now the remainding right of archers, Gallowglass and Richards bodyguard drive into the highlanders and lowlanders just as they were pushing my centre back. The feudal knights are recalled and plow right into the rear of the Scottich centre. All resistance collapses. They are virtually destroyed.
Now all of my force which is left runs straight for Prince Adam of Scotlands right flank and from all sides the Scots and French are assailed. Prince Adam is unhorsed and captured and the remainder of his army is pursued long inti the night.
I lost 625 men killed. The allied army lost over 1,557 French, scot and Welsh with a nice ransom of Prince Adam to boot. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-14-2003, 18:31
Three faction coordinated attack?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Well, that was for sure a rewarding victory
Like all tight ones are...

BTW, I can't wait to try the final version of your MOD... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

chilling
12-15-2003, 11:08
Quote[/b] ]
I'll take that as a compliment... ...I guess?

More an expression of appreciation at your flesh coloured countryside. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-15-2003, 23:09
Quote[/b] ]More an expression of appreciation at your flesh coloured countryside. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

BobTheTerrible
12-15-2003, 23:53
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

My most successful battle (to me) was one as the Hungarians vs the Byzantines. I had a strong defensive position on a hill. They had about 1000 men in their army, composed of Byzantine Infantry, with more infantry and cavalry supporting. No kataphracts, though. As they marched up a hil, my force of 600 men prepared by firing volley after volly of arrows into the General's unit. He was taken down about halfway up the hill. My archers picked of some Byzantine infantry, not many though. As they neared the top of the hill, I sprung a carefully planned ambush of some cavalry who charged out of a forest into their rear lines. At the same time my entire army on the hill charged downwards, and cavalry hit the sides of their army. Every unit fled. I hunted down and killed every last one of them. None escaped alive. My losses were a single man in the cavalry unit who sprung the ambush.

I consider this my best battle, however it is not my most efficient. I've held off against the full might of the Golden Horde as the Russians with only 2000 men, (killed 6400).

Aymar de Bois Mauri
12-16-2003, 00:12
Quote[/b] ]My losses were a single man in the cavalry unit who sprung the ambush.
Awesome That's what I call an economical victory... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif



Quote[/b] ]I consider this my best battle, however it is not my most efficient. I've held off against the full might of the Golden Horde as the Russians with only 2000 men, (killed 6400).
Yeah Horde battles have that gigantic component about it.

As I've told before in this same thread, while playing the Byzantines, I had an ENORMOUS battle in Kazar:

Unit Size: SMALL

Byz: about 3000men
Mongols: about 9000men

Results:
Men killed: 896
Men taken: 2085
Men lost: 176

Ransom: 54985 florins... ...sweeeeet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-08-2004, 18:45
Quote[/b] ]I hope we can see some CNN-AdBM coverage of the battle.

Ludens
Well, it's been a looooooooong time waiting I'm sorry... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Inicially I lacked the time, then the ORG's upload tool stoped working. So, I wasn't able to keep my promise of showing some of the my in-action battle against the Danes.

I've now been able to upload the pictures to the ORG, so here they are. I'm sorry for not having been able to take pics of the 1st wave, but I had my hands full back then http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif


After crushing some HtH units with my spearmen and AUM, I launched my AHC in a envolvement manouver against the Danish arbalesters.
This is the final part of the routing that ensued. Some enemy reinforcements are visible:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000027.jpg



These are those same reinforcements, after being grinded by my AUM and having recieved a pat on the back by my AHC and Ghulam units:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000033.jpg



The routing continues with my Ghulam Cavalary near the camera:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000034.jpg



A few moments later, in another area:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000037.jpg



After a few more sorties, some Danish infantry beeing encircled and destroyed:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000048.jpg




Some enemy infantry (2units, the others are routers) decided it was safe to attack my 9 veteran cavalary units http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif :

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000049.jpg



Resting, while waiting for the enemy to reach the point of no return:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000052.jpg



Waiting for the ideal moment:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000053.jpg



Talk about stupid AI, isolating their own units http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif :

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000054.jpg



Well, what to say? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif Frontal attacks by spearmen and AUM, lateral attacks by cav units:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000055.jpg



The image speaks for itself. Destruction of enemy coesion (what was left anyway) and subsequent rout:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000056.jpg



The final men of these routing units, beeing chased by my cavalry:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000059.jpg



Final victims of this group:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000060.jpg



Later on, a few more of the same. Cavalary encirclements in a dispersed Danish Army:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000067.jpg



Ensuing rout and cavalary chase:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000068.jpg



Final kills by my exhausted GBG:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000071.jpg



The chase goes on, although with fresh Danish reinforcements counter-attacking:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000072.jpg



Final stages of the battle. The classical hold them with spear, flank them with sword and hit them in the back with cav was executed moments earlier.
This is the subsequent rout, with the awesome AMC leading the chase:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000093.jpg



The last dispersed fleeing units beeing chased:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/story/Aymar%20de%20Bois%20Mauri%20Almohad-Danish%201600-9800%2000000094.jpg


The pics aren't great but, I hope you have enjoyed them... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Ludens
01-08-2004, 20:24
Quote[/b] ]The pics aren't great but, I hope you have enjoyed them...
They were well worth the wait, Prince Aymar. Very well worth it. Again, they make me itch to have such large battles. No such luck, by the time my Shogun armies get that big, my opponents already start running when they see my honour 2 w3 a3 warrior monks. Perhaps I ought to start playing at higher difficulties.


Quote[/b] ]sorry for not having been able to take pics of the 1st wave, but I had my hands full back then
Then you fight with more honour than me, because I continually press the pause button. This has become just a reflex. I've tried to stop it, but again, no luck. Perhaps I can alter the key-board configuration somewhere?

Anyway, a beautiful report about an epic battle. Very good medieval journalism. All hail the Caliphate

makkyo
01-08-2004, 23:09
Its extremely dificult to have such large battles in the shogun version. The large ones are always on bridges, when the defenders can hold of a LOT of enemies. My largest battle on Shogun was one such case. It was bloddy....(my 2000 against Oda's 1000) I encircled his army (there were two bridges) and left on survivers. Not evn Nobunaga himself Playing Shogun it still fun, evn with the age of Rome total war looming over the horison. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Monk
01-08-2004, 23:16
4285 Prisoners taken??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

You are far more merciful than i Aymar, even though I'm a Monk http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif , those taken alive don't usually live. must be some sort of *cough* inventory problem or something.

chris
01-09-2004, 02:16
This one is no lie, and totally unmodded, I cheated to get the florins to get the buildings to get the men and their upgrades http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif, but the battle itself was untouched.


I had 360 some men (soooo stinkin mad i didnt save the replay&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I was up agaisnt over 1000. I am trying to find the final talley....i wrote it down....o well. If anythign this post is understating what they did. I was attacked by the saxons, who had fyrdmen, peasents, saxon huscarles....a very wide range of men. I had these men, and i had 3 units of re-enforcements. But all the highest unit had 9 men. When i charged, i knew i had to make it hard, i had to keep them running, but i didnt want to run to there reinforcement position, so i didnt get over run. I fought and fought, somewhere around the 6-9 wave, i said to myself, this is it they are down to about 49 men, and they are up agaisnt a full wave of reinfocements. Well, i not only survived, but i won the battle. I just had to make sure i kept the men together, if i let them split up it was over. It was absolutly awesome I had 39 men survive, and i killed, i want to say 2000+ but becuase i dont know i will say 1500

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-09-2004, 13:55
Quote[/b] ]They were well worth the wait, Prince Aymar. Very well worth it.


Quote[/b] ]Anyway, a beautiful report about an epic battle. Very good medieval journalism. All hail the Caliphate
*bows*

Thank you indeed, Lord Ludens

The Khalifah sends is most cordial salutations

*bows*




Quote[/b] ]No such luck, by the time my Shogun armies get that big, my opponents already start running when they see my honour 2 w3 a3 warrior monks.
You bet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

WM at honour 2 with MAX upgrades are a fearsome sight indeed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif





Quote[/b] ]Then you fight with more honour than me, because I continually press the pause button. This has become just a reflex. I've tried to stop it, but again, no luck.
Trust me. It's much better without pause. The thrill is completelly different. You're always on the jagged edge... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif




Quote[/b] ]Perhaps I can alter the key-board configuration somewhere?
The keyboard shortcuts can be changed in the Settings menu, both in Shogun and Medieval. You didn't know that? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Just make sure you don't remember the new Pause button. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-09-2004, 14:35
Quote[/b] ]4285 Prisoners taken??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
HEHEHEHE http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Funny isn't it? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif




Quote[/b] ]You are far more merciful than i Aymar, even though I'm a Monk http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif , those taken alive don't usually live.
Well, there were some reasons for that.

I had been trying to break the Danes economy as well as their military power. But those guys had a LOT of money http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Even destroying their trade and using raiding tactics, it proved difficult to put them in the red. So, hostage taking speeded up the process.
Besides, after this battle they weren't a military factor anymore... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif




Quote[/b] ]must be some sort of *cough* inventory problem or something.
LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Ludens
01-09-2004, 22:53
Thank you for your information, Prince Aymar,


Quote[/b] ]The keyboard shortcuts can be changed in the Settings menu, both in Shogun and Medieval. You didn't know that?
No, I have a selective blindness to things I don't want to know.


Quote[/b] ]It's much better without pause. The thrill is completelly different. You're always on the jagged edge...
I noticed. After I changed my pause button, I lost a battle for the first time in months. And another one What was even more annoying was that one of these defeats was exactly the same as my last defeat three months ago Talking about embarrasments. But that didn't matter.
I still liked it.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
01-10-2004, 00:32
Quote[/b] ]No, I have a selective blindness to things I don't want to know.
LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif




Quote[/b] ]What was even more annoying was that one of these defeats was exactly the same as my last defeat three months ago Talking about embarrasments.
Yeap The whole habit of pausing can make us rusty. Specially certain types of manouvers coordinating certain units.

Qilue
03-21-2004, 17:12
Best was when I defended Khazar with 1940 men (12 billmen and 20 longbows and 1 royal knights) against a 16k horde army. Lost just over 450, killed around 8500. It was less of a battle than it was a slaughter since I had unlimited ammo enabled and no time limit and I set up a half square between two patches of trees on the edge of the map (holy Agincourt batman http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-yes.gif).

At the end of the battle about 4 hours later, I could accurately measure the lethal range of longbows since the entire ground in between was literally carpeted with dead mongols and horses. Only four times did they actually engage my billmen and all four times, they were easily repulsed. Not once did the mongols attempt flanking through the trees.

After the first few waves, the HA stopped firing at the billmen and started firing at the longbows (which is where most of my casualities occured). This continued until the cavalry had either been slaughtered or retreated. Then the infantry started appearing. It was then that I gave the billmen the order to engage at will.

My general gained the skilled last stand and skilled defender v&vs.

John86
03-21-2004, 17:49
my best was when i was turks and attacked bulgaria where there was roughly 1500 byz and 2000 germans crusading. The byz and germans were allies so i had to attack them both. I had 615 men. I attacked the byz first with my val 4 gazi inf and routed there first rank of men, then reinforcements came, the byz had cav and i was badly hurt at the end. I stayed up on a large hill and watched the germans come and attack me and destroy my men on the hill. I got reinforcements of cav and attacked the men but they were to good, they had feudel knights at 1 val. I almost had every units routing when i got reinforcements of militia seargeants. I dragged the german gen into the woods by pullling back my cav. While he was in the woods i attacked with militia sergents and destroyed his gen, routing over 300 archers. Some how i chased them off and it routed the order foot solders. By the end of this battle my total kills were 3000 and I had 600 deaths. I actually one the battle with a unit of peasents who took on 3 vikings, which was all that was left of them.

Axeknight
03-21-2004, 21:04
Wow Reading these reports makes me sooo jealous The best I've had was Byz vs. Egyptians. They attacked me with 2500 men almost all peasants except for 60 Nubian Spearmen and 3 units of GBG (60 GBGs in total). I had 500 Byz, mostly Byz Inf. , 87 spearmen, 1.5 archer units (90 archers approx) about 5 Naptha throwers (who ended up doing nothing, their range is so short) and 2 AMCs. This was in Syria.

I took up position on a hill, with archers in front, then Byz Inf. , then spearmen to deal with enemy cavs. They came at me, I routed them, then made the mistake of chasing (I wanted to chase em away before they could reinforce). They had 16 peasant units as reserve, and my Byz Inf. took massive punishment, at one point I had 300 peasants fighting downhill against 41 Byz Inf. my spearmen were routed (by the GBG, much earlier), so I had to use my archers as melee troops to reinforce my dwindling Byz inf. units. end result, 700andsomething enemies killed, 690something captured. My general got the V&Vs skilled defender and skilled last stand.

So much, fighting against the odds... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

SwordsMaster
03-22-2004, 13:38
My besT battle:

Russians:629 men(me)
Mongol Horde(2836)(AI)

Playing the Russian campaign/Hard,battle for Moskovia:

my men were 4 spearmen,2xbows,1armspear,1woodsmen and 4boyars aloms neither of them was at full strength.gen valor:4.

The mongols,as theyre used to: heavy steppes cav,heavy mongol cav,cav arch and 2 units of mong warriors.

The battle ended with:
1476 deaths,482 captured mongols
248 death russians(almost all my xbows death due to an error in coordination,they had to hold a hill on their own for a while)...

Qilue
03-22-2004, 18:31
There was one battle I remember well not for the casualty figures, but for the victory alone.

I was playing Italians and was experimenting with halberdiers as main infantry. Anyway, during one turn Antioch looked like a an easy capture. So I dropped an army of 6 halberds, 4 arbs, 4 chiv knights and a general (5 star guy)(880 men).

When the expected battle comenced the next turn, instead of a few egyptian peasants, I was facing an 1200 Byzantine army and a 1350 Egyptian army. Fortunately it was a 1v1v1 rather than 2v1. The battle field was sort of bowl shaped in that there was a depression in the middle surrounded by hills.

The Byzantine general set his artillery in the depression and then formed up on a hill behind. The Egyptians also set up on a hill as did I. So there we all were evenly spaced around the edge of the map and no one was going to attack first.

Taking stock of the situation, I took the initiative. Deciding that the Byzantines were going to be the nastier fight, I edged around and attacked them first. This was a tense battle because I had to both restrain my cavalry to save them for the egyptians and conserve my army as much as possible since I had no reserves.

Apart from the mauling one of my halberd units received at he hands of a VG unit, the fight went well. I had targeted the Byzantine general with my arbs as soon as he got in range so a rout was almost inevitable. I then noticed the Egyptians were moving. Time was running out as their current path would impact on my flank.

When they had reached about three quarters of the way, the Byzantine army finally broke. Wheeling my army around, I readied my troops to meet the new threat. I had deliberately kept my cav out of the Byzantine battle to keep them as fresh as possible.

I sent my remaining halberds into the Egyptian infantry while my arb sharpshooters disposed of the Egyptian general. Once they had engaged, I sent my cav crashing into the Egyptian flanks. The Egyptians almost imediately broke and ran.

It was the most intense battle I ever had playing MTW.

TinCow
03-22-2004, 21:40
My best was playing the English against an Italian invasion of southern France (which I owned). The Italians started the war and invaded with over 7000 troops into a province I had defended by 1500. I set myself up on a long hill, medium-height hill and was fortunate in that the AI didn't try to flank me. Since I knew this would be a looong battle I was very conservative with my longbows, picking their targets manually when I needed them and not allowing them to fire at will. My army was all chivalric level and of very decent quality (weapons and armor), thus allowing me to slug it out with the front line of the enemy with a decent chance of victory. I did the classic spear-line with men-at-arms on the sides to hit the enemy flanks. The first wave was hard-fought, but I eventually caused a chain-rout with large casualties on the enemy and medium casualties on my own side. Cavalry pursued and decimated as per standard.

After this, the next several waves came on piecemeal and heavily demoralized (can't remember whether the enemy general died or fled). They kept arriving at one point on my line which was held by two heavily depleted men-at-arms units (20-30 out of 60). Each time a unit would arrive, I would charge the MAA down the hill and the enemy would break after the hit, give or take a few seconds. My (increasingly tired) cavalry would then finish off the routing survivors. This went on for about 3 waves, with my longbows firing at the occassional threat. Finally they decided to have some superficial attempt at strategy again and the last 2 waves formed up out of range and were organized affairs. However their morale was terrible and a mass charge by my entire line down the hill did both waves in.

End casualties:
Italians lost about 3000 dead, another 3000 captured out of 7000+ total.
I lost about 600 total, probably 400 of those in breaking the very first wave. My two depleted MAA units had over 1000 kills/captures between the two of them. Not bad work for about 50 guys. Battle took me three hours.

That said, I would have to say it was not my most successful battle. That would be one I fought as the Polish against the Byzantines very recently. It was a very very close and incredibly desperate affair in which I won, but with only about 100 men remaining from a force of 800. I was close to breaking at several points, but managed to hold on. In that battle I actually lost MORE men than my enemy, but from a strategic and tactical perspective it was a much better fight on my part. Slaughter-battles like the first one occur all the time, one that requires true tactics and skill is more rare.

lysarin
03-23-2004, 00:03
An attacking enemy force of about 7000 against my 800. Luckily it was a bridge map and I had plenty of artillery and really upgraded troops. So I lost about 50 men and they about 4500.

mfberg
03-23-2004, 18:46
Hungarian, hard. I bought a 4 star general (boyar), another boyar, and unit of russ spearman in Moscovy, added my 1/2 unit of spearmen and 3 units of horse archers and ran them into Novograd.

I find out my boyar general's unit has 18 valor

My side 700
Novograd 4 boyar, 3 Rus spear, 1.5 urban militia, 2 Peasants: total 1500

Casualties My side 4 boyars, 6 horse archers total 10
Novograd 1200+ casualties & dead prisoners

My newest, bestest general dies of old age the next year.

gaijinalways
03-24-2004, 12:58
I have a wife and a cat (my only kid ) and yes there are some battles about going on-line (only 1 computer on at the moment)

mcveigh
03-24-2004, 15:59
I was plying England holding Normandy against the French.Its was 500 against 2500
There were 2 bridges had 6 groups archers and some catapult firng at the bridge, holding the bridge with 100 footsoldiers. And the AI kept coming the be crushed. I made a run with 2 units of royal knight across the ohter bridge and charged the rear of the bridge... It was total mayhem.
The French got slaughtered.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

SwordsMaster
03-25-2004, 14:05
BTW i just thought that its not fair that you cant destroy bridges in MTW. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-wall.gif

VikingHorde
03-25-2004, 14:23
3000+ vs 860, expert/high/byz/huge. I was greate fun to kill all the monguls on the battlefield. They ran in the end like schoolgirls. To bad they were surounded http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LordChance
03-25-2004, 15:19
My best would be 240 varangian guard in a fortress killing around 2000+ mongolians and the turrets taking as many again....

Seven.the.Hun
03-25-2004, 15:34
would have to be in shogun...16 fully loaded kensai, leader ranked 7th, against 1200 imagawa troops, lost 3 men, killed around 800...
they were ripe for it all, only 60 archers, and 120 cav...the rest were on foot and unarmoured...
twas a spectacle...
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son of spam
03-28-2004, 17:14
medmod english/GA/early/hard

me: 9* star gen with 2000 men, five 6-7v copper armored Norman knights, four 4-5 v highland clansmen, rest LB’s and claymores.

Them: 0* http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif gen with 3000 men, mostly pavisiers, Italian light inf, genoese sailors

Result: total massacre, their gen was killed by a clansmen charge, initial wave routed. My gen personally killed/took 400 men. Losses: ~40. Kills: 1900+

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