Crusader Campagin

[Alrowan]

CRUSADER CAMPAGIN: A HISTORY OF THE 1ST CRUSADE

Players:

Turks:
1.Alrowan
2.SeljukSinan
3.Erik Jansen
Reserve: Sjakihata Akechi

Christian:
France:ShadesWolf
Italy:UglyRyu
England:Ryttare
Reserve:

BATTLE 1

Dorylaeum, 1097

Rules

12000 (36000) florins for crusaders
15000 (45000) lforin for turks
ERA: EARLY
TERRAIN: ROCKY DESERT
MAP: al_Dorylaeum
PLAYERS: 1 French Army, 1 English Army, 1 Itallian Army VS 3 Turkish Armies

ATTACKERS: Turks

DEPLOYMENT
Turks may only deploy on the very fringes of the map
Itallians MUST take 4 hospitalar Foot Knights, and be right flank army.
Other two christian armies must delpy together, and as far away from italy as possible

Christian armies:
No Ranged weapons allowed
Each army must consist of no more than 50% cav and at least 50% Order Units (italy is only allowed 4 cav max)

Order Foot
Fanatics
Order Knights
Fuedal Knights
Fuedal MAA
Feudal Sergeants
Hospitalar Foot Knights

NO ALAN MERCENARIES

Turkish Armies
Max 4 hand to hand inf allowed
Min 4 Horsearchers per side
Must have at least 4 more archers
Are Allowed to take 4 more of any other Cavalry

NO ALAN MERCENARIES

Combat Rules:
Christian Armies may not use thier Knights until 10 minutes of the battle has passed.
Turk cannot use infantry till 10 minutes has passed
Turks must attack italy first, only using horse archers
England and France must not move for the first 5 minutes


Results:
If Turks Victorious: 3 new challengers to play
If Crusaders Victorious: Heraclea

[Shahed]

HAZER

Sinan reporting for combat ---> Turkish forces.

[Alrowan]

good to see you sinan, i was hoping you would join the turks.

I want the crusaders to be relativly good players, who will enjoy an online campagin as such. The Turks are always going to be quite beatable, but its up to the generalship of the crusaders to see how successful they will be. all battles will favour the crusaders, for the sake of getting to jerulselam

[Alrowan]

ok, well ive decided to change one small thing

if the christians lose, then a new set of challengers will be called for

eventually, three players will have the glorious task of liberating the holy city

[Ugliryu]

I'd like to take one of the crusader armies Alrowan. Preferably Italy but I'm not particular. When are you planning to play this out?

[ErikJansen]

Ottoman Vandal signing up for frontline duty http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Edit: HAZER http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Ryttare]

Gimme the english my prince

[Alrowan]

a small modification after running a few tests on the new map. ive taken the crusaders armies back to 12000 florins each. This balances it out a little more, mainly because order foot are so effective in this setup

[ShadesWolf]

OK if nobody else wnats them, Can I have FRANCE

[ShadesWolf]

BTW are you going to record this anywhere, like on a web site for example ?

IE

Historical background
Historical battle
replays of MP battles
etc

It might make some good reading and be quite intersting to set a new type of interst going......

ALSO BTW have any of u thought about joining our little order over at OOOO. This is the type of stuff we set it up to achieve.....

[Alrowan]

well my webskills are limited, so if there was to be a site, it would be up to someone else. Im looking to getting the replays and all though.

[Alrowan]

on a final note for now

ive made the map to be used for the battle. Ill be testing it a little more then ill post it so the combatants can play it

[Sjakihata]

Signing up for Turks or any spots left http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Alrowan]

well sjak, youll go in the reserves for the turks


now i need players to post thier online times. then i will schedule the first bout

[ShadesWolf]

where do we get the map from ?

[Ugliryu]

I'm good for anytime these days so I can work around the others schedules. My stalwart Italians never sleep Or wash

[ShadesWolf]

Im in the UK so between 7pm and 10pm GMT (Monday to Thurs

Fri can be anytime after 7pm GMT

[Shahed]

Well for ideally for me, we do this on the week-end.
I can come almost anytime after between 17:00 - 10:00 (next day) CET, on week-ends.

During the week more tricky but let's say between 20:00 - 22:00 CET.

Looking very much forward to it.
Are we going to use the Crusader Wars mod ?

[Alrowan]

ill be posting the map at the org tonight, with a link here. Also, we are using the standard set for the game sinan, so no crusader wars mod, though the rules keep most players in line to what will be played.

i am aiming to get this game going on saturday, preferably about 15:00GMT-17:00GMT for our starting time. Thats late late night here, afternoon in europe and morning for the USA

if a player cant make it, hopefully the reserve can

[Ugliryu]

I already feel like a pincushion...

You know..to make it even more interesting the Crusader players shouldn't get to see the map until we play. I'm for it if my allies agree.

[ShadesWolf]

well Alrowan that me out this weekend then.

Im at the football at 17.45GMT on Saturday.....

[Shahed]

How about earlier ? around 11:00 GMT, I guess that would still be a decent hour in Sydney. or Sunday ?

[ErikJansen]

RL has taken a change of direction for me, as summer is approaching I need to work A LOT more because sunlight is not healthy for me... DUH http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif so that early on Saturday won't cut it for me Sunday should be fine until about 20.00 GMT.. maybe we shift it a day? If not you can push it forward, by all means. Only condition is I GET A REPLAY http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Oh and ShadesWolf regarding your suggestion of us joining the OOOO... It sounds like something right up my ally, and after visiting your site I find it very interesting. However I cannot spare more of my time towards MTW these days, and the Clan Raven must come first..

I'll be popping by to say hello and check on your progress tho, and should some spare time be freed up... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

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[Alrowan]

20:00GMT is wel niegh impossible for me.. thats 6am here, and that would be a monday morning.. a day im at uni.. so i need the sleep


we may be able to push it forward though. 11:00GMT might be ok

[ShadesWolf]

If push came to shuv I just might be able to go 11GMT on Saturday, but I would have to talk very nice to the wife http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

And I cant even guess what I would have to do in return

[Shahed]

YO YO YO

Is it happening ?
When is it happening ?
How is it happening ?

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[Kongamato]

While this is after the fact, I would have suggested that the Crusaders down by the river take 2 units of Peasants with them. Peasants appeared in many crusades, and the article I found on Dorylaeum spoke of quivering, fearful Peasants getting cut down by arrows. I guess Fanatics will do, but Peasants would put the possibility of a chain rout in the game.

[Ugliryu]

Well since I think you'd have to be a pretty fanatical peasant to march all the way to Jerusalem from someplace in France, I think I'd like to stick with the fanatics. Whatever is decided I'm fine with though.

[Alrowan]

ok, we will give this a shot at 12:00 GMT saturday

this will be fought in the MTW lobby, not VI

hopefully io can see you all there

[Shahed]

Time to revise the guidlines. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Alrowan]

well i am uploading the map as we speak, ill post the link and guilnies revision after

[Alrowan]

Doylaeum Map (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/Al_Dorylaeum.zip)

[Alrowan]

Rules

12000 (36000) florins for crusaders
15000 (45000) lforin for turks
ERA: EARLY
TERRAIN: ROCKY DESERT
MAP: al_Dorylaeum
PLAYERS: 1 French Army, 1 English Army, 1 Itallian Army VS 3 Turkish Armies

ATTACKERS: Turks

DEPLOYMENT
Turks may only deploy on the very fringes of the map
Itallians MUST take 4 hospitalar Foot Knights, and be LEFT flank army.
Other two christian armies must delpy together, and as far away from italy as possible

Christian armies:
No Ranged weapons allowed
Each army must consist of no more than 50% cav and at least 50% Order Units (italy is only allowed 4 cav max)

Order Foot
Fanatics
Order Knights
Fuedal Knights
Fuedal MAA
Feudal Sergeants
Hospitalar Foot Knights

NO ALAN MERCENARIES

Turkish Armies
Max 4 hand to hand inf allowed
Min 4 Horsearchers per side
Must have at least 4 more archers
Are Allowed to take 4 more of any other Cavalry

NO ALAN MERCENARIES

Combat Rules:
Christian Armies may not use thier Knights until 10 minutes of the battle has passed.
Turk cannot use infantry till 10 minutes has passed
Turks must attack italy first, only using horse archers
England and France must not move for the first 10 minutes

[Shahed]

Well I don't know too much about this battle except basics.

What I can tell you is that I just checked out the map and it is AWESOME. It's perfect for an epic battle. Huge Map, very nice touches, semi arid stretching into rocky hills. The armies have already set up camps in the deployment zones. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Alrowan]

thanks sinan.. the map didnt take me long to make.. but even though i didnt know exactly what the area looked like, from the various descriptions i read, there was a river, and a plain, with hills to the north.

[Shahed]

YO YO YO

Is it happening ?
When is it happening ?
How is it happening ?

In other words:

BUUUUMMP

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[Alrowan]

soon sinan, ill be releasing some of the maps *hopefully* after my next mappack

im going to make them all beforehand, and dump them into one zip.. then once the games are all figured out, i will start this again from scratch, meaning we will need new plaayers

[Shahed]

Ok. I understand.

I'll be new Turk player then http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif please accept this as my official registration.

Meanwhile, let's do Pert the Russian, or Hungarains vs Turks, Mohacs.

[ErikJansen]

Yay I'm in I'll be the guy with the HA's http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Alrowan]

well we might need a few filler game, so be sure to checkout the other thread about historical battles

[Shahed]

KA BOMP

[Brutal DLX]

Wow, another custom setup that didn't go anywhere, if you want to revive it, I'm up for it, but it has to happen till July 18th, after that I'm on vacation. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Shahed]

I played a few games on that map...was awesome. That map is one of my favs.

[Alrowan]

thanks for the revival, me and kyle are thinking of re-running this campagin. Already im looking at a new set of maps and rules for all