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The_Emperor
05-22-2003, 11:38
Saxons for me mate... I like their Huscarles (and that they don't have to rely on raiding all the time), the Vikings are a very close second http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Heraclius
05-22-2003, 11:41
Irish, disloyal generals plus no archers makes for quite a challenge. very fun.
ShadesWolf
05-22-2003, 12:35
Mercia, Mercia, Mercia, Mercia, Mercia, Mercia
My home faction........
Too early to tell. Vikings are my fav as of now.
By the hammer of Thor HAR HAR HAR http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Lord Godfrey
05-22-2003, 15:32
I've played 3 games so far as the Saxons, Vikings, and Welsh. I found the Saxons to be a little easy, the Vikings to be a little boring after all the initial raids, and the Welsh to be the most challenging - the game I lost.
Wheatley
05-22-2003, 16:17
Me too. I found the Vikings boring, and the Welsh extremely challenging. I also like my home faction, the Northumbrians, which is also challenging(at the beginning anyway). Irish were fun, once you control Ireland, you get rich fast. Scots look difficult, Picts are fun, but difficult. And the Mercians and Saxons seem the same, except for location.
i'm supposed i'm biased since its my home region. But i like being the Mercians
I like the Welsh the most because they are the most challenging. I agree with the other players that the Vikings get boring after your initial rading - the Saxons are pretty good too...
ChaosLord
05-22-2003, 17:47
If I hadn't started a Pict campaign earlier today, i'd have said Scots or maybe Irish. Although I still have yet to try Saxon/Mercia/Viking, they just look like they have too easy a start. They have a wide range of uniques and fairly unique units available to them. Berserkers, Celtic Warriors, Pictish Crossbowmen, Picitish Cavalary, lots of fun.
Scots while seemingly in a difficult position actually aren't too bad. Clansmen cost 100, with 15 support. They easily beat Celtic Warriors and can even overwhelm Viking troops. Also unlike the Picts they're relatively safe from Viking raids. Even with less Provinces they make more then the Picts too I think, since they are so undeveloped.
Fun to play though, I waited for a moment to strike as the Scots and overran the Picts, went on in that game to rule most of England, i'm at the 2/3rds victory mark but getting tired of fighting, so I started a new game.
ChaosShade
05-22-2003, 17:49
I like the irish and picts
I like the picts because it's the only faction I have played so far. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Though I am going to play as the Mercians next after thier housecarles slaughted a number of my armies. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif
Kekvit Irae
05-22-2003, 20:02
Irish for me, babe. The Gallowglasses are too sweet to ignore, plus the great isolated starting position means for an easy start. All you need is to drive out the Scottish from Ireland, and then all you need to worry about at that point is the occasional Viking raid.
I would have the Scots as my favorite, but the lack of a good starting position is a flaw. I've noticed noone voted for the Scots http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
I say Saxons for now in campaign..its too early to tell yet.
Vikings and welsh come close behind.
Mount Suribachi
05-23-2003, 12:23
I've got to go with those hometown Mercians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Lindissi is the best
Suribachi the Yellowbelly
Lord Melvish
05-23-2003, 15:57
So i choose saxon cuz i like them... duh.
In fact i don't have VI yet but i plan to buy it tonight
I'll probably try them first.
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Gregoshi
05-23-2003, 19:06
Welcome Lord Melvish enjoy your first days with the game, they are special. We'll still be here when you come up for air. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
I thought the Vikings were very fun and I like the music a lot so that adds something extra. They are very over powered though and the game is easy once you conquer Ireland. I was thinking of trying another Viking campaign where I leave Ireland alone and concentrate on taking over the Picts, Scots and North Umbrians while leaving the Mercians and Saxons to kill each other. That way I will have to worry about Ireland and the southerners getting strong later in the game. It might make it more interesting.
I have also played a Scot campaign (which I found challenging) and a Mercian campaign (which was way too easy). Welsh are next up and I am looking forward to the challenge.
Wheatley
05-23-2003, 23:32
Lol, have fun with the Welsh. My advice...completely obliterate anybody before they have a chance to make a unit. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
Hagbard la Suede
05-24-2003, 10:52
I love playing as the picts =)
Celtic warriors front rank,berserkers first assault troop,mounted crossbowmen skirmish.
Yeeehaw
The Marcher Lord
05-24-2003, 18:33
The Welsh of course, my home faction, and easily the most challenging to play. Have lost every time with them so far despite using different strategies. The longer it takes to win with them the more engrossed I get in the game.
Dîn-Heru
05-25-2003, 13:58
Vikings
Guess why
ELITEofFOGOLIN
05-26-2003, 00:58
Welsh for me
He have the best unitet Welshbandit
sassbarman
05-26-2003, 01:31
My vote is for the welsh I've played them 4 times already and am currently playing my 5. I have finally teched up far enough to get welsh bandits and they where worth the wait, with third level weapons upgrade they are simply awesome. In my previous campaigns the mercian and saxon huscarls combined with their abundance of excellent generals, where too much for my troops. This time around its the vikings giving me headaches but I think I've turned the corner and am on the verge of my first win with them.
Vikings, had you asked a week ago i would have said Saxons. but i just love those berserkers and Jomsvikings http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ELITEofFOGOLIN
05-27-2003, 23:11
WoW i have Test the Mercians........
I thing Mercians have the best armys
Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe
05-27-2003, 23:43
My vote is for Pict.
Pretty odd, in MTW early / high / late I am usually a 'foot' player, but I can't resist playing with pict poney http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Louis the Simurgh,
Doug-Thompson
06-02-2003, 17:04
Quote[/b] (kekvitirae @ May 22 2003,14:02)]I've noticed no one voted for the Scots http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
Here's one. I like the Scots for one simple reason: My mom's family, the McKays, come from the same rough west Scottish coast that make up most of the starting provinces on the map.
I concentrated on building a navy early so I could keep Ulster -- but not too much of a navy, or I'd have no money for troops. Four longboats in the sea between home base and Ulster were enough.
The Vikings left me alone and picked on the Picts, which was very helpful. I invaded Ireland when my army was built up. A human player would have defeated me, but the AI Irish were destroyed. I extended my naval control northward to isolate the Pict island provinces and waited for a Pict civil war. After that, the destruction of the Picts was quick.
The Highland Clansmen are an excellent unit, and Ireland has proven to be a secure base that allows me to quickly build up a (relatively) high-value army.
Rodafowa
11-11-2003, 12:29
Contrary to everyone else's experiences I've read on the board, I've just won my first VI campaign as the Welsh by playing defensively for 90% of the game.
I snatched the two Welsh rebel provinces early on and got ships in the water as soon as I possibly could to allow my troops in Cornwall and Wales proper to support each other, incidentally grabbing the Isle Of Man in the process. With 4 provinces under my control that had iron resouces it allowed me to specialise each one in the production of a different kind of troop - infantry in Gwynned, archers in Guent, cavalry in Cerniau and siege engines in Manau - I might not have had the biggest armies in the game, but they were definitely the best-equipped, so between that and the fact that the Welsh border provinces are a bugger to attack it meant that the other factions were content to go after each other and leave me in peace to develop and hoover up the bits and pieces that were left over as the Mercians turned themselves into an unstoppable juggernaut.
The Mercians declared war on the Saxons, giving me the chance to pinch a couple of Saxon provinces near my borders. The Mercians killed the Irish king, allowing me to take a quick hop across the water and bribe/conquer my way around the now-rebel Irish provinces. Even so, it still looked like the forces of Mercia, which had been camped on my borders for the entire game, were too rich and too strong for me to withstand when they came for me, which they inevitably would at some stage. But a resurrection by the Northumbrians hinted that the Mercians weren't paying as much attention to the loyalty of their people as they should do, so I thumped half-a-dozen spies into a lightly-garrisoned province in the middle of the old Saxon homelands, crossed my fingers and hoped.
Criminy if it didn't work. The Saxons reappeared in four provinces along the south coast, and as if that wasn't entertainment enough the Mercians fell into civil war. Trusting that they'd be too busy dealing with internal threats to go after me, I stripped away some of my defensive forces to go on campaign in the south, while getting my troop-producing provinces going all-out figuring that I'd soon have the income to pay the new units' upkeep. We rolled over the Saxons in Dornsaete, East Seaxe and Suth Seaxe before picking up some of the fresh troops newly-produced in the Welsh heartlands and going after their king and main army in Somersaete. With that battle won, the whole of the fertile south coast was in our hands and we could finally start producing quantities of soldiers to match our quality.
Just in time, as it turned out, because with their civil problems sorted the Mercians only had us and the Picts left to conquer, and the Picts looked an even tougher proposition for even less reward than we did.
The battle that set the tone came early - I came into West Seaxe with two thousand troops and caused the smallish Mercian garrison to withdraw without giving battle, but the next year they came back with four thousand to try and send us scurrying back the way we'd come. Crucially, though, we were now technically the defenders rather than the attackers, something that suited our heavily archer-based army down to the ground. We set up on a smallish, steep hill very close to our edge of the map - a calculated risk in that any troops of mine that routed would probably never have time to rally, but it meant that my reinforcements would arrive more quickly and allow me to quickly replace archer units as they ran out of ammunition. And on that hill we stayed, for over an hour - leaving the pursuit of routing troops to my two cavalry squadrons who were roaming the plains below. More than two thousand Mercians were killed at a cost of less than four hundred Welsh lives. Which'll do.
It was touch-and-go, but by carefully picking the provinces we attacked so as not to stretch our borders we were able to roll the Mercians back, each victory making us stronger and them weaker. We finally nailed the Mercian king somewhere up in the south of Scotland, then trundled over a Pict faction that was weakened by decades of fighting itself more than anyone else to finish off the whole of the British Isles.
Most fun I've had with my trousers on, I can tell you, especially since I'd spent most of the game waiting for the Mercian hammer to fall. Sorry for boring you all to death about it.
I am a staunch Mercian http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I'm a staunch getting my butt kicked by everyone no matter who I play as type. Of course, I'm learning how to play better, if slowly. The most success I had was as the Irish. Oddly enough, my armies in vanilla MTW tend to be heavily reliant on archers/arbs, but those gallowglasses and bonnachts certainly helped make up for that. That and the isolated starting position helped greatly.
I also enjoyed the Vikings, mostly for their music. It also helped when I realized that conquering the Picts didn't help the need for money, and those southern provinces would help my war machine get moving much better. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Duke Malcolm
11-11-2003, 20:20
I prefer the Picts myself. The Berserkers and Celtic Warriors were my main army for the game, thousands upon thousands of them, marching across the British Isles. The Scots are also okay, but I only played them because I am Scottish, which is technically the same reason I first played as the Picts.
Finished by first ever VI campaign a few days back as my home country the Welsh - and loved every minute of it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.
Things were touch and go for my faction right up until my last major battle with Mercia (I had wiped out the Saxons beforehand), where they sent in an army containing 6 (count 'em!http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif 6 units of Saxon Huscarles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif .
It was the closest battle I'd ever fought in a total war game - the Welsh archers and Armoured Spearmen did their country proud by thinning out the Huscarle ranks and then holding them on my defensive hill position.
The close combat was utterly brutal - by the end of the battle armies of around 1000 men each side were decimated to 51 spearmen and 3 horsemen on my side, and 10 Huscarles 21 spearmen on the Mercian side, who thankfully decided to run away.
This battle signalled the end of Mercian rule in Central England, as the rest of my armies rolled into their territory the next turn http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif.
So yeah the Welsh were great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif.
BTW is there any place on this site where I can stick replays of my most fun Welsh battles?
TheSilverKnight
11-12-2003, 02:18
Northumbrians because:
1. It's my home faction
2. they get all unique Saxon units
3. I like to slaughter everyone around me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
i like the Irish best.
it`s my home team. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
not having access to archers makes a difference but bonnachts really are a nice change, the isolated position is also handy early in the game, just have to beat off the viking raiders till i get my fleet going.
gaelic cowboy
11-15-2003, 00:08
Irish of course boys couldn't be anything else the chance to be an ARD RI(HIGH KING)is too much for me. Of the other factions i like the Scots.
It seems to me that VI is meant to be played as the Vikings, what with the ransack bonus and other Viking 'quirks'. The units are very good, except their cav.
The Welsh Bandits make them powerful, and the Saxons and Mercians have a great mix of fun units.
But I think my favorite is the Irish. Maybe it was just me, but the Irish campaign was the hardest I have played since I tried Imagawa. Try to wipe out the Vikings first. A real challenge (at least it was for me)
ichi
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