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ChaosLord
05-24-2003, 01:49
In Civ theres two types of players, Warmongers and Builders. Builders focus on peaceful expansion and building their citys up to greatness. Warmongers focus on well, war. Heres the 3 types I see for M:TW.

Warmonger: You hunger for the blood of anyone within arms reach and focus on conquest as your primary entertainment. Peace is simply a pause between wars and a time to build up your forces. Alliances only count so long as they outnumber you.

Builder: Some might call you obsessive-complusive, asking why you need every building in every province to be built. But don't pay attention to them, you're making a civlization. Your reigns focus will be inward only, besides for keeping a reasonable force to discourage the savages outside your glorious kingdom.

Merchant: You are sort of a combination of the two personalitys above, but your goal is different. The thing you crave is not power or enlightenment, it is money It doesn't matter how you aquire it, wether through sacking Constaninople(again), building a vast trade empire, or selling off unwanted relatives. Your reign will vary alot, though it will tend more towards the builder side of things as wars tend to be costly.

So anyway, which are you? I know many of us are a combination of 1 or more of these, but try to pick which best suits you.

Shahed
05-24-2003, 01:50
Builder & merchant.

FesterShinetop
05-24-2003, 01:54
It's all about the money for me And mostly by establishing a vast trade empire.

After all, you need a lot of money to build up a big army http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Shahed
05-24-2003, 02:02
I guess builder is my profile, but you can't build anything without money. So I tend to focus on ecnomoy improvements first.

Kekvit Irae
05-24-2003, 02:11
Builder is my main profile early in the game, then it slowly starts forming into Merchant. Once someone break alliance and attacks me, then it's time to go full force Warmonger and dominate the world with no mercy

Gregoshi
05-24-2003, 03:35
Builder. Whether I'm going to win or lose, I want the world to remember my accomplishments. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Crazed Rabbit
05-24-2003, 04:23
Warmongerer Or, as i prefered to be called, a proactive individual using teamwork and province wide synergy to bring wealth and happiness to the whole of Europe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I like to build up my provinces so I can pump out high-tech units, and trade to build up my coffers, but in the end these are just to make my wars more efficient. For me, its all about the war.
-Crazed Rabbit

vortex
05-24-2003, 06:25
To begin with, I'm a merchant, and once I have accumulated enough money, I become a warmonger, althogh I don't call it that.

Kekvit Irae
05-24-2003, 08:56
Quote[/b] (Crazed Rabbit @ May 23 2003,22:23)]Or, as i prefered to be called, a proactive individual using teamwork and province wide synergy to bring wealth and happiness to the whole of Europe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Lemme guess... you work in Management? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
*has flashbacks of Dilbert*

el_slapper
05-24-2003, 11:24
I am a trader who sometimes need new terriroty to improve its trade. Total coquest I did once, was boring.

Divine Wind
05-24-2003, 12:13
Id say i was a merchant..i love building up trade and creating huge unbeatable armies.

Znake
05-24-2003, 12:21
I'm a merchant first of all, then i build 3-4 strong provinces with all upgrades.. then i start war..

Fragony
05-24-2003, 12:59
Depends, if I play german or almo campaign I just like to kill stuff, If I play egypt or italy I tend to be more subtle. Overall I enjoy the battles more then strategy part, so I guess I am a warlord =)

Warmongerer
05-24-2003, 14:50
Look at my user name. Why would someone not make war? Peace is boring.

Makkadam
05-24-2003, 14:59
Builder and merchant.

Once i get 500 000 florins i can usually buy the other nations.

shadowstrife911
05-24-2003, 17:15
If I'm the vikings, I go warmongerer @ first.

I'll raid every coastal province from Wessex, to Castille, to Sicily and the East. =)

The Marcher Lord
05-24-2003, 18:26
Hmmmm - trouble is I try to do all three, simultaneously , which usually ends in disaster http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

The_Emperor
05-24-2003, 19:25
I'm a combination of all three... But I think I am more of a warmonger than anything else (after a few years of peace and trading).

Dîn-Heru
05-24-2003, 19:35
I tend to build and trade alot, but I always win through Total Domination.

The_Emperor
05-24-2003, 22:40
Quote[/b] (Dîn-Heru @ May 24 2003,13:35)]I tend to build and trade alot, but I always win through Total Domination.
I guess that winning with total domination makes you a Warmonger as well... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

To tell the truth in oder to succeed you need to do all three effectively. I would normally spend a century or so doing the building and trading and when the armies are there, its conquering time

Assassination and subterfuge works wonder sin the meantime, we all know the value of a blade plunged into the back of the Pope

Lotar
05-25-2003, 00:58
I tend to be a crusader. Death to the infidels. But now in my current campain the pope is dead, so everyone will feel my rath.

KukriKhan
05-25-2003, 02:04
Merchant, I guess.

I build early to make trade, then fight wars when other nations attack, hurting my trade. Personally, I'd rather dominate economically, but the game won't let me, so I must fight (and therefore I must fight well).

So, after about 1300, I try to inspire rebellions in other factions' lands, then conquer those rebels (showing them the light, I explain to myself) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I admit disappointment when the endgame involves me and a stubborn, prideful Pope...but it almost always does.

RisingSun
05-25-2003, 02:54
OOOO I'm probably the biggest warmongerer you'll ever see. I play total domination mode and i like it that way. In fact, i depend on war for my income too I usually only have a few tousand annual incom, and my treasury only goes over 20,000 if im lucky. I make my money from acquiring new provinces and ransoming prisoners.(only sometimes, most of th time i kill them, unless i need money or capture lots of nobles) May times, i want to take a break from war, only t find that my treasury goes down when i not constantly acquiring new provinces, so i go off to war again

ChaosLord
05-25-2003, 03:08
Hmm, suprised we don't have as many pure Warmongers. Anyway, forgot to say what I was, i'm a Builder. I like having a Keep or Citadel in all my provinces and being able to build anything from a given province. Yes, its a waste of cash but it makes things look nice. I'll wage the occasional war to get some nearby lands or to teach a a neighboring savage some manners, but besides that I try to keep myself isolated.

Cooperman
05-25-2003, 11:52
I start of as a merchant to fund my building, but then the AI starts attacking me and I turn into a warmonger http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mortal Cabbage
05-25-2003, 13:24
I'm a warmonger disguised as a trader.

Gregoshi
05-25-2003, 16:22
Welcome to the Org Mortal Cabbage. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif You have the best name I've seen in a while - it is right up there with The Earl of Freshly Mowed Grass. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

It is a given that we all eventually end up as warmongers - that is the name of the game afterall. However, as ChaosLord said, I'm surprised there are not more warmongers right out of the gate.

Gaius Julius
05-25-2003, 17:59
I'd consider myself a combination of all three.
First; merchant/builder, accumulate lots of money, build up my empire.
At the same time quietly build up my military.
Then finally, when I feel the time is right start kicking some tail; warmonger. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Nowake
05-25-2003, 18:08
well, I voted as merchant, but nitpicker would be better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Heraclius
05-25-2003, 19:37
I start off as a builder and merchant, snapping up a few weak rebel provinces before going into full warmonger mode.

Monk
05-25-2003, 21:39
i am the bringer of death, destroying lands and pillaging farms. My name is spoken with great fear and those who oppose me end up dead in battle. I am Warmonger, builder only when war is not an option. i destroy the armies of my rivals and instigate Civil war when i am weaker.

Warmonger first off taking everything i can. then its builder

Coldstream
05-26-2003, 00:39
While I create my trading empire, I am simultaniously linking together the invasion fleets to give me unparaleled reach around the continents. I remain as a whole generally neutral but when a country decides I'm a good place to start a war, I ravage his country in a most efficient manner.

Then I flip a coin. Heads I build it up and bring it into my empire.

Tails I burn it to the ground, murder his people and leave. Silly sods.

Jacque Schtrapp
05-26-2003, 00:44
I'm am a combo builder/merchant. That is why I utterly deplore the total lack of any decent diplomacy options. There is simply no possible way to peacefully exist as some rabid one province faction with 150 peasants will eventually attack your uber-army and cost you all of your alliances. I know it is Medieval Total War, but sheesh Guess I'll have to hold out for RTW and hope for more diplomacy.

ziphnor
05-26-2003, 17:56
Im definetly a warmonger http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I live for fighting risky undermanned battles having only the high quality of my troops to help(thank god the AI isnt really good http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I frequently attack when out numbered, its great fun, since the enemy almost always stays and fights. I suppose im also have a little builder in me, since i really like shiny armor upgrades etc for my troops. Thus i have a tendency to wait for someone to attack me in order to get the best troops i can.

some_totalwar_dude
05-27-2003, 21:36
Merchant,
I rarely attack an other nation, but I do keep a very good army ready for war so that if some one tries to mess with me I change in a warmonger http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

murder,kill,pillage destroy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sleepy
05-28-2003, 08:34
Builder/Merchant though when annoyed by some moronic 3 province country attacking my huge trade fleet with its one and only ship I switch to rampant warmonger.

Dogmeat
05-28-2003, 12:26
Like many others have said, i'm all three.
In GA mode espically i try and focus on being a merchant and builder. But if anybody messes with me, i unleash hell upon their heathen behinds etc

Lord Godfrey
05-28-2003, 19:29
All three. Phase I is warmonger to gain territory from rebels and nearby factions that if left unchecked would become dominate. Phase II is build up an basic military / economic structure to support my kingdom. Phase III is merchant to build up the treasury in order to support the final phase. Phase IV depends upon my goals for the game. Sometimes it is complete domination and I morph into a warmonger. Sometimes it is just to interact with the other factions and I will stay a builder / merchant.

econ21
05-29-2003, 14:28
There should be a fourth category role-player. Try to act out your kingdom as it would behave historically. That rules out conquest games (except for Mongols, I guess) but fits fairly well with GA games.

The game is obviously geared up for warmongering - the real time battles are unsurpassed and the strategic layer is very passable. By contrast, pacific building is not that well rewarded (cf. Civ type games) while trading provides little challenge (against the AI, the image of taking sweets from young children comes to mind).

The problem for me is that warmongering is too time consuming and exhausting. As Napoleon said, A man has only a certain time for war. I like to fight only when necessary - eg for a limited strategic goal, a crusade or, most fun of all, survival.

I did try all out warmongering as a King in the Who wants to be King of Poland? thread and it was great fun, made more poignant because your king's time on the MTW earth is limited. In true single player, it becomes a war without end and gets tiring.

A.Saturnus
05-30-2003, 13:01
I`m a builder. But unfortunately I have to assault uncivilized nations, conquer their provinces to build them up. I`m not a warmonger, I bring civilization to barbars, if they don`t want it, it`s just a sign of their primitiveness http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Pablo Sanchez
05-30-2003, 16:29
I'd say I'm an opportunist architect. I sit and build massively wealthy provinces with trade to supplement my income, until I can pick someone off..

As the Hungarians, I maintained a strong alliance with the Germans from Early start to 1200 or so(multiple marriages) but my intelligence network discovered that France was becoming a major power. So I sided with them when they went to war with HRE, and grabbed Austria. The king of Hungary personally commanded the assault on Vienna. Irony pleases me.

But I also roleplay a little. When the evil Sicilians tried to grab the Pope, I immediately got a seperate peace with the Orthodox heathens of Byzantium (despite the fact that they were half-dead) and set out to save the holy father. With bold simultaneous strokes, I lifted the siege of the Papal States and saved the pope at the last moment, and siezed Rome (my army of Szeleky probably reminded the poor Romans of Attila http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif). I then transferred everything into Sicilian-held Naples in the hope that it would revolt and the pope could move back into Rome. It didn't happen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

jadast
05-30-2003, 18:52
I lean towards warmonger as I begin a war as quickly as possible and keep at least one going through out the game. I do build everything in every province. This gives a certain amount of flexability in troop production.

jakester
05-30-2003, 19:18
What pr Fire said applies to me as well. I'm a nitpicker. I'll spend three times as much effort making sure my armies are perfect, then how much I actually use them. But once attacked I have no problems chasing the offender to the ends of the earth. Killing them, their loved ones, their gold fish etc. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

theadept
05-31-2003, 13:05
im a merchant so i can bribe armies http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Richard the Lionheart
05-31-2003, 20:51
I like to make money first then develop my empire while trying to build a army that could easly defend my provences from attack. Then if I come under attack I set about making an example of the enemy by erasing their nation from the face of the earth. Then I just start making money, building provences up, then attack, etc.

Doug-Thompson
06-03-2003, 18:23
Warmonger -- subcategory, backstabber.

There's nothing I like more than seeing two powerful neighbors in a fight. When one's about to win, I invade the losing side and grab all the richest provinces for myself. Then I attack the weakened winner.

This is one reason I never play Catholic factions. The last thing I want while gobbling up the fruits of somebody else's victory is excommunication.