Viking Invasion

[Skie Mirror Silvanoshei]

I was just wondering. I just purchased it.

[FesterShinetop]

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Up to now I am the only one not having VI. Soon, I hope... very soon...

[rasoforos]

And i m the second ... 3 reasons here :
1) waiting for my exams to finish
2) waiting for me to miss the game enough to play it again ( currently playing anno and warcraft iii)
3) waiting to see if the technical support improved , bugs are fixed...

[Alrowan]

VI is great, i would reccomend it highly as could many others

[The_Emperor]

I enjoyed VI... Its great fun and makes the MTW Experience a bit more enjoyable in places

[Nikitas]

It hasn't changed MTW much for me. But the Viking part of the game is great, and some of the new MTW units are interesting.

Overall I would say definently worth the $30 US.

[vortex]

the new units are good, and it can also be a little harder, because general's loyalty is much lower and rebellions are much more common. I would buy it if you dont already have it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Nowake]

I have it all right. And I try to enjoy it

[Balamir]

VI is a game of quality, bringing up the medieval concept of risk and battle map thingy to its highest, yes that I agree. I got VI and discovered that it was not very different than our beloved medieval. Yeh new units new era new stuff and all, but with VI, I discovered that I have had my fun from the silk textured campaign map, and I didnt want it anymore. That happened before with medieval, but on that instant, I drove myself into the world of multiplayer and frankly found it much much loads of fun. Sadly, I couldnt repeat the same process with vikings because my copy is illegal and I have no cd key. The good ol' medieval server is deserted so my position is a nowhere-to-go tunnel. I am hoping RTW will be the way out http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
cheers

[FesterShinetop]

Or you could purchase VI and play online again... or am I saying something really stupid here? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[A Nerd]

Anything total war is fun and worth purchase. Everything else gets boring too soon

[FesterShinetop]

And by buying VI you also contribute to the development of Rome TW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif What other kind of reason do you need to buy VI?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Xiahou]

Bah, Im still too upset about CA's lack of patch support for MTW to even consider buying VI or even RTW for that matter. I guess that Im one of the few people around here that still think its inexcusable to charge for a patch (VI). Sure, it adds another campaign- but the new fixes should be available to everyone, not just those who fork over more money. -I dont like supporting companies that just give the 1 obligatory patch and then leave issues outstanding since there's no money in it.

There are still a few good Dev teams out there that go above and beyond the call of duty and I would much rather support them with my money than CA. Yeah, I'll probably get VI, and maybe even RTW eventually- but when I do they'll be in the bargain bin... Im not paying full-price for under-supported software.

*deep breath* ok, end rant http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Balamir]

Quote[/b] (Apache @ May 31 2003,18:38)]Or you could purchase VI and play online again... or am I saying something really stupid here? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
I thought I said I got an illegal copy?

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif Apache, its not so easy to find a legal copy of a game here, since not many people can afford it, and the ones that can buy illegal ones to spare about 20 times money http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif So they just dont brign em here. Friggin amazon doesnt care to ship it into turkey either so Im simply stuck here hoping for an original copy on the shelves http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Is it really that bad over there? Well, depends if you're living on the cost or more to the inlands I guess? As far as I know the inlands aren't as developed as the coastal parts, right? (If I am saying really stupid things now be sure to let me know&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Balamir]

Nope you sure are speaking wise words apache http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Here is a geography lesson to all of you that dont know Turkey:

lesson 1. Istanbul is NOT the capital of Turkey http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

lesson 2. Ankara is the capital. Ankara is in the center of Turkey, which has a rough climate and a vegetation called steps Those are weak shrubs that die in the summer because of over-heat. The part where Ankara is called the Grain silo of Turkey because +60% of the grain is grown here.

lesson 3. We have 3 main coastlines. To Black Sea, to Mediterranean and Aegian Seas. the second and third is where most of the tourists go to sunbathe without their tops on http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif . The black sea cost is rainy every season and there is grown hazelnuts and tea plant. its the coast in the north.

lesson 4. Istanbul is kind of the NYC of turkey. all the stuff is here. Everything. 11 million living here and the whole turkey is 70 million http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif and mind this the geoghraphical state which istanbul is in, is the second smallest in all turkey heheh

lesson 5. I you wanna go to Turkey start from istanbul. Then go to the Aegian coast and visit Izmir a nice touristic coast and our 3rd biggest city.continue south and you'll be in Bodrum , the summer society is all here. I bet you'll enjoy that place. If you still want sun, you go to the medditerranean coast whic is not far away and stay in Antalya. if you still want to see Ankara, you can take a plane from there or from Adana, which is beside a small city called Mersin, and thats where I came from. Now Im living in Istanbul though. If you wanna wet holiday amongst the trees, I suppose you'd want to go to trabzon or rize or zonguldak http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

hows that?

[FesterShinetop]

Thanks for the geography lesson Balamir http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Turkey sounds like a real nice holiday destination to me I really like to go there once. Not only has it the nice climate and beautiful landscapes but there is also a lot of history of course. All kinds of nice things to visit.

Must be one of the favorite holiday destiniations for the Total War community me thinks; one day you can lay on the beach and the other you can visit all kinds of nice historic sites Right Balamir?

[Portuguese Rebel]

Quote[/b] (Xiahou @ June 01 2003,20:59)]Bah, Im still too upset about CA's lack of patch support for MTW to even consider buying VI or even RTW for that matter. I guess that Im one of the few people around here that still think its inexcusable to charge for a patch (VI). Sure, it adds another campaign- but the new fixes should be available to everyone, not just those who fork over more money. -I dont like supporting companies that just give the 1 obligatory patch and then leave issues outstanding since there's no money in it.

There are still a few good Dev teams out there that go above and beyond the call of duty and I would much rather support them with my money than CA. Yeah, I'll probably get VI, and maybe even RTW eventually- but when I do they'll be in the bargain bin... Im not paying full-price for under-supported software.

*deep breath* ok, end rant http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Totally agree. People that did not buy VI should have the right to get the fixes it brings. CA guys are just plain lazy... How hard could it be? Come on, there are companys that release patches almost weekly. CA made a patch for MTW that didn't fix half the bugs, and now you have to buy the patch? VI is great and all (although there is still that very annoying 56 yrs old bug) but a guy that doesn't have the money or opportunity to buy it shouldn't be deprived of the fixes period.

Helping CA to develop RTW? Bwahahaha, you guys really think they haven't made enough money with STW and MTW to do that real easy? That is without holding out the patches for absurd reasons http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Balamir]

Yeah Apache, your on point there. You must be a top scholar in your school eh http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Well, as you said Turkey is the connection of East and West, this has is disadvantages but it has good things too. Because of that, we always had a rich history, and considering the fact that Turkey has coasts to 3 (even 4 with the tiny Marmara Sea, the one between the Istanbul Bosphorus and Canakkale Bosphorus) you have a lot of placs to swim. So yeah, Id be very happy if you guys come to Turkey, its a nice place http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Old Bald Guy]

Although I said I wouldn't get VI because of the reasons others have said they wouldn't, I broke down and bought it, because, simply, there's nothing else out there I'm interested in playing. It's been worth the money. However, I still believe CA should support it better, both MTW and VI, which needs some patching.

Would releasing the fixes for the main game which are contained in VI lower the sales of VI?

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (Portuguese Rebel @ June 03 2003,16:35)]Helping CA to develop RTW? Bwahahaha, you guys really think they haven't made enough money with STW and MTW to do that real easy?
Well, don't know about that. MTW and STW have been reasonable successes, but I don't think that they sold enough for them all to drive in Ferraris and stuff.

For the rest I totally agree with you, people shouldn't be forced to buy an x-pack to patch up the game they allready payed enough for

And Balamir, fortunately it's been a long time ago I was in school, and when I was I've never been at the top http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif more hanging around at the middle... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Just saw a holiday special on Turkey some weeks ago, and it looked really nice, and they also focused on the many historical sights

[Portuguese Rebel]

Quote[/b] (Apache @ June 04 2003,06:41)]Well, don't know about that. MTW and STW have been reasonable successes, but I don't think that they sold enough for them all to drive in Ferraris and stuff.
Not all of them will be driving ferraris, some will have to settle for Jaguars, BMW, Mercedez and Hondas... The poor bastards http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

The living proof that they sold enough is the fact that there will be a RTW. How many games stop at two (if they get there) because number two didn't sold enough...

[Wilbo]

canI presume I am alone here, but I really didnt enjoy Mongol Invasion. It had nowhere near the majesty of standard Shogun, so I have been put off by my stale experience, and probably wont pick this up. Plus Medieval isnt as good as Shogun, imo.

Can anyone convince me otherwise? I can be swayed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[FesterShinetop]

Quote[/b] (Wilbo @ June 05 2003,00:50)]so I have been put off by my stale experience, and probably wont pick this up. Plus Medieval isnt as good as Shogun, imo.
Won't pick what up?? Viking invasion or MTW?

I neither have VI nor STW so I probably can't comment on both

[a_ver_est]

I not going to buy VI, Why ? becouse I am very low of money http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif and IMHO VI offers only a little more than MTW.

I will reserve my cash to buy RTW that will be a real improvement.

[Mount Suribachi]

Quote[/b] (Wilbo @ June 05 2003,00:50)]Medieval isnt as good as Shogun, imo.

Can anyone convince me otherwise? I can be swayed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
VI adds lots of little improvements - castle sieges being a prime example, but yes they could have been done in a patch.

The Viking camapign however...now yer talkin The smaller map, fewer factions, fewer units and simpler tech tree make it more like STW than MTW. I really enjoy the new campaign. The MTW campaign just gets too big and ugly and sprawling, which is a shame.

[Wilbo]

I discovered that one of my friends actually has Viking Invasion, and he too said that it was a lot smaller than Medieval, with a smaller tech tree, and felt a lot more like Shogun.

I guess Im sold http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Skie Mirror Silvanoshei]

Well, majority rules. It seems that most people own MTW: Viking Invasion.

[vodkafire]

No, not interested in Viking part and don't want to pay for a patch. I will save my money for Half-Life 2 and Combat Mission - Afrika Korp.

[Cazbol]

I just got my VI yesterday. If it's Total War then it's for me.

I had heard they weren't going to sell VI in Denmark so when I saw it by chance I just grabbed it with both hands. I haven't installed it yet, as I'm first going to finish my current Egyptian campaign in MTW 1.1, but I'm looking forward to it (despite the 56 year old bug).

[SpiderFromMars]

Quote[/b] (a_ver_est @ June 05 2003,05:21)]I will reserve my cash to buy RTW that will be a real improvement.
What makes u so sure of that? The movie clips? Pah..

Unless VI gets patched I'm done with CA & the Total War series http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif

Btw I got VI, hehe, like it despite the bugs. Without all the MP & SP bugs this would be a total winner....

[frogbeastegg]

As I said in a similar topic:
I have it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I love it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I want a patch http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[TheViking]

Quote[/b] (Wilbo @ June 05 2003,00:50)]canI presume I am alone here, but I really didnt enjoy Mongol Invasion. It had nowhere near the majesty of standard Shogun, so I have been put off by my stale experience, and probably wont pick this up. Plus Medieval isnt as good as Shogun, imo.

Can anyone convince me otherwise? I can be swayed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
WOOT WOOT

Finally someone that thinks what ive been saying for a long time now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Shogun Totalwar was and still is the best in the Totalwar series, hell best game ever

And i will get the VI, have to test it, but i wont pay for it so CA can cheat more money from me, MTW was a big flop

Now i dont want a bunch of people replying this that never played the shogun games telling me how great you think MTW is, cus your opinion wont matter or interest me anyway.

[Satyr]

Funny thing is, VI plays much more like Shogun that Medieval. So.... if you liked Shogun, you will like VI a lot better than Medieval. Of course, I like them all a lot.

[Gregoshi]

Quote[/b] (TheViking @ June 13 2003,21:05)]And i will get the VI, have to test it, but i wont pay for it so CA can cheat more money from me, MTW was a big flop
And if you do like VI, you will pay for it as to not cheat CA out of its money...right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[TheViking]

Quote[/b] (Gregoshi @ June 18 2003,19:40)]
Quote[/b] (TheViking @ June 13 2003,21:05)]And i will get the VI, have to test it, but i wont pay for it so CA can cheat more money from me, MTW was a big flop
And if you do like VI, you will pay for it as to not cheat CA out of its money...right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
ofcus if i like i buy the original, if they patch the bugs, but if theres not so many bad bugs i buy it anyway

[Odinn]

They should make a patch to fix the 56 years bug...

[RaistlinX]

I own STW/WE and MTW/VI. TheViking is right, by far the original STW with the addition of the new unit is the best.

MTW has great potential but they really didn't live up to the TW name this time. here is too much left out of the diplomacy strategy and Subterfuge capabilities is shot to hell with VI, or 1.1.

CA has never been great with patches and bug fixes. There are certainly better companies that they can learn from.

I believe they went towards RTW way too fast and should of spent more time and effort developing and testing MTW. There is a certain modding bug and of course the age 56 bug among others that need to be addressed.

However, given the cool things with RTW such as the continuous map I will no doubt buy RTW, mostly because I am a history buff. However, if CA doesn't start supporting their products better and stop pushing for 'the next big game' they will go the way of 3Dfx when another upstart company comes along and DOES support with regular patches and addons.

[Gregoshi]

As I recall, CA started working on RTW while they were working on MTW too. Though I'm sure RTW development kicked up a notch or two once MTW was complete and then again after VI was released.

[antek]

The CA are really smart. The CD-Key thing is probably the main reason y I bought MTW, and y I'll buy Viking Invasion (it's not out yet http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif ). In Poland, compared to other games, Medieval was really expensive, and that's y so many ppl have pirates. Come on (CA or the polish retailer?) think cheaper = more ppl buy it = bigger profit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif At current rates it's about $44, which for Poland is really high

[Xiahou]

If ya want to see a shining example of awesome game support check out Galactic Civilizations (GalCiv.com). They've released a multitude of patches- most of which were improvements, as opposed to bug fixes. Also, they will soon be releasing a FREE add-on for download.

BTW, the AI on this game is awesome- if Turn-based strategy is your thing check it out. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif


Still ticked at CA...