Is this possible? [Archive]

Old Templar

06-11-2003, 17:29

Playing the Polish, I received a request from the POPE to marry one of my princess into his "royal family".
Is this possible? Anybody with similar experience?

some_totalwar_dude

06-11-2003, 17:56

wait... the pope isn't supposed to have children (most of them did though)

So it's actually not possible http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

galingula1

06-11-2003, 18:21

One pope was a chick

Doug-Thompson

06-11-2003, 18:50

There's a lot of dispute over whether "Pope Joan" existed. The mystery can probably never be solved.

Portuguese Rebel

06-11-2003, 21:00

That story probably has some truth into it... Its to big to be a rumor.

LadyAnn

06-11-2003, 23:11

This is a quirk for having Papacy as playable faction now.

About the rumor of the Popette: it is my favorite :) There exists a marble chair ...

Annie

Demon of Light

06-11-2003, 23:15

And...

what about the marble chair? I would love to hear the rest of the story.

t1master

06-11-2003, 23:35

i too am perplexed lady ann. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

i've not really ventured into the non viking era's, cept to get trounced by much better players online, does playing the pope, wreck the papal decrees and excoms?

Brutal DLX

06-12-2003, 07:49

Huh? Papacy still isn't playable unless you mod it. They are available in MP only.
As for the Papal princess, shouldn't be possible when running the unmodded game.

Magraev

06-12-2003, 08:55

I've married a papal princess too (unly in the bugged VI though). I was standing right next to the pope, so maybe it just takes a turn for the popes children to be deleted by the game.

Brutal DLX

06-12-2003, 09:48

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Portuguese Rebel

06-12-2003, 22:59

Ooohh yeah, the marble chair... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

For you guys who don't know, legend has it that before a guy can became pope he must sit on a marble chair wich actually has a hole in the seat. Then a "lucky" priest is assingned to feel up all the "material" to see if it is all "in order".... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

ichi

06-13-2003, 00:05

Old Templar:

Be glad they didn't ask to take one of your Princes

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ichi

Hakonarson

06-13-2003, 01:52

Pope Joan (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08407a.htm) from the Catholic encyclopaedia.

Nowake

06-13-2003, 08:03

Quote[/b] (ichi @ June 12 2003,18:05)]Old Templar:

Be glad they didn't ask to take one of your Princes

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ichi
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif indeed, that would have been a bigger problem. Take care, you may get excom.

Ser Clegane

06-13-2003, 10:07

Quote[/b] (Hakonarson @ June 12 2003,19:52)]Pope Joan (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08407a.htm) from the Catholic encyclopaedia.
Interesting link, Hakonarson ... thanks

Portuguese Rebel

06-13-2003, 11:23

Boy those guys are far from imparcial, they take as granted the the "catholic historians" are credible in denying the popess but dish out all who say otherwise. The first guys to put it on paper were catholic monks. The fact that that pope/popess doesn't show up on the records don't prove squat. Of course all traces would be erased. And after all that wasn't all that hard to do since it must have been a very short period (1 year max).

The fact that there aren't many written records only show the power of the church are the fear people had of facing it. Consider some historical sources has "respectable" and others doubtfull without much looking into it is plain dishonest. You guys just watch closely the language used. It is the scholar equivalent to "it's a lie, it's a lie, it's a lie, i won't hear you, i won't hear you...baah bahh bahh". This of course while covering the eyes...

A.Saturnus

06-13-2003, 12:54

Are you saying the Vatican may actually be lying??? My world view is breaking down
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DDogwood

06-13-2003, 13:09

"Popess"? Since "Pope" derives from "Papa", which means "Father", shouldn't a female Pope be a "Mome"?

(kidding)
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kataphraktoi

06-13-2003, 14:44

While Pope Joan was an apocryphal story, the infamous "pornacracy" of the 10th cenutry was not.
Story has it that the Pope at that time was a conneisiur of women - no one was safe - pilgrimesses, nuns, female dovotees. Females use to avoid the Vatican lest St Peter's successor would commit a sin and violate them. The Vatican was one big whorehouse.

two words - Papal infallabity

Portuguese Rebel

06-13-2003, 22:24

Quote[/b] (kataphraktoi @ June 13 2003,08:44)]Story has it that the Pope at that time was a conneisiur of women - no one was safe - pilgrimesses, nuns, female dovotees.
My kind of dude... Come on virgin nuns for everybody... ooops, hope that didn't sound too sick... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif