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Lare
06-12-2003, 10:08
There are more and less powerful units in MTW. Usually the more powerful the unit is, the more fun it is to use. Sometimes, though, some units get a special place in your heart, even if it isn't the most powerful one.

To me boyars are awesome I remember when first playing against them, I sent 3 units of feudal or chiv seargants to attack against a single Russian boyars. I thought my units would slaughter them, but the boyars just dominated that battle, until the other AI units reached the battle, resulting in my much stronger army getting routed.

I later thought, that I lost complately because of the boyars. I underestimated their strength, and lost. Boyars are the reason I enjoy playing the Novogorod so much.

My other preference is no surprise, Swiss armored pikemen. I once decided to get rid of an unloyal heir and sent his 4-star unit of valour 4 or 5 Swiss armored pikemen to battle against an army of about 600 French fine men. I let the computer calculate the battle and I thought he would get killed, but instead he won and revolted, resulting in civil war

What are your favorite units?

de la Valette
06-12-2003, 11:07
The most fun i have had with a unit so far was using two organ guns to defend a bridge against the horde. Multi-barrel cannon and men on horse back just don't mix http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

They end up with 350 kills between them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

monkian
06-12-2003, 12:48
Welsh Longbowmen, especially against French calvary : )

Not that I'm biased....

A.Saturnus
06-12-2003, 12:52
Smashing whoever is in your way with Janissary Heavy Infantry was the greatest fun

rasoforos
06-12-2003, 13:25
billmen , i like their versatility. Pronoiai allagion , the 'heaviest light cavalry' ( although they are neither).

insolent1
06-12-2003, 16:25
well up on till VI I would say gallowglasses as they have the best chage of any infantry & r cheap & easy to get. Since VI I have been using hashishin a lot & find them to be a great laugh. In my latest turkish campaign I have a load of high valour hashishin(without general) & have had some hilarious ambushs using my turcoman horse to lure enemy units to my units of hashishin. Pity about teh 2 year build time but with a master swordsmith they come out at 1 valour. Berserkers are almost as good if not better

econ21
06-12-2003, 17:30
I am starting to like lowly archers. Against the AI, they can be decisive. On the offense, it makes the AI move; defensively, it gives you the little edge you need to win. Sometimes the AI can become so half-hearted and decisive, massed archery can be decisive.

Longbowmen are the best if you increase the ammo by a factor of 3 or more, otherwise they dry up too soon.

The VI game makes me really appreciate archery when my low tech army has to face berserkers.

My second choice would be bodyguard cavalry (e.g. Prince's Royal Knights). They are a useful firebrigade to counter-charge in a desperate situation; through pursuit, they can turn a tactical victory into a strategic one.

Sir Robin
06-12-2003, 19:27
I have always had a special place in my heart for Byzantine Cavalry.

Their ability to fight in close and from afar has proved handy in many battles.

hrvojej
06-12-2003, 20:56
Jinettes. Their mobility and the ability to sometimes perform way beyond what they are supposed to brought me some of my most spectacular victories. Especially in the desert, where it counts.
I am also growing to love steppe heavy cavalry and the role viking huscarles have in the MTW campaign. I just assaulted fort, motte and bailey with 4 units of huscarles. They crushed every stockade in their way, didn't lose a single man in the process, and slaughtered the garrison in a minute. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

DemonArchangel
06-12-2003, 20:56
the most fun?

beserkers, beserkers, beserkers,

followed closely by varangian guardsmen.

Leet Eriksson
06-12-2003, 21:26
Faris,much like mamelukes but with much needed attack power(and armour),the only muslim unit that can dismount without changing into another unit(bediouns>peasants,Ghulams>saracen infantry).

A Nerd
06-12-2003, 23:29
I like Knights of the Hospital on foot...can openers they is Saxon Housecarls from VI Gothic Foot Knights and Abyssinian Guards are fun too

Satyr
06-12-2003, 23:51
Jinettes are the one unit I try to gain access to if I am not playing as the Spanish so I would have to say them. Boyars are in sort of the same league except that I never bother to take those provinces until late in the game and I no longer bother skirmishing in battles much.

On the other hand, when it comes down to a unit that just rolls over anything in it's path, you have to go with Joms Vikings. This is especially true when you consider the weakness of everything else they will face in VI. Can you say Overpowered? I love them

ichi
06-13-2003, 00:00
Varangian Guard with a little valor and weapons upgrades, in the woods.

Like Rasoforos I also like the Pronoiai Allagion - run fast, fight hard (how do you pronounce oiai?)

Like Sir Robin I enjoy the Byz Cav; watching Catholic Knights chase, get peppered, drop in numbers, get tired, then run away is real fun.

Don't forget Naptha Throwers

Yeah, ichi likes the Byz

Boyars, Jinettes, Mamluks, and Allans also are great.

ichi

Dukezer0
06-13-2003, 00:19
Peasents http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Billmen for taking out royal knights early in the campaign.
Vikings for a cheap, easy to produce, reliable troop.
Almughavars.

Quote[/b] ]Varangian Guard with a little valor and weapons upgrades, in the woods. Yup http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif


Quote[/b] ](how do you pronounce oiai?) Totally http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Martok
06-13-2003, 00:46
Highland Clansmen, baby I admittedly say that partly out of sentiment; but also because in my experience, they're probably the most effective unit in the game, especially considering how cheap they are to build.

I don't care what the unit characteristics state. Whenever I use them, they seem to have an excellent charge, a decent attack.... And perhaps best of all, they don't retreat very often, unless I order them to or they've been *completely* decimated. They definitely seem to have the stereotypical Highlander "Never say die" attitude. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

In all honesty, though, they've saved my hindquarters in quite a few battles. If I'm anywhere near Scotland, I'll often conquer it simply so I can train Highlanders. Yet another reason to play as the English. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif Hmm, I think I might have to go start a new game now; it's been a couple weeks....

t1master
06-13-2003, 08:45
atm, i like jannisary archers, with a bit of valor and some armor upgrades.

earlier, my favorite were clansmen and gallows, followed by vikings, just the regular sort, from the 1.1, but i've come to like the turks recently. after janissary archers would be the heavies and then the futwas.

Nowake
06-13-2003, 08:57
~ Varangian Guard

~ Janissary Heavy Infantry


The best from the rest http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Leet Eriksson
06-13-2003, 11:55
The huscarles in VI kick some serious ass too

Brutal DLX
06-13-2003, 12:31
Don't forget about the Welsh bandits. Another extremely powerful unit

DDogwood
06-13-2003, 13:07
I'm all about Huscarles - I have a slight preference for the Viking flavour because I can play them in the Early campaign as well as in the VI era, but the Saxon ones are great too. Unless I'm playing the Irish, Welsh, Picts or Scots, in which case I really hate them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Simovek
06-13-2003, 19:22
I like Billmen, Varangian Guard and Armenian Heavies. I basicly like all the High and Late units.

Nowake
06-14-2003, 09:18
Billmen are useless, too slow ...

some_totalwar_dude
06-14-2003, 12:10
Billmen to slow??

There as fast as every normal infantry unit, witch is fast enough IMO.

Ok I like Billmen because they just cut trough almost everything (at leat in my last campaing, they have kill ratios of 1 to 20 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )
and I like longbows alot to (double ammo, easily kill 100 per battle)

And varangians KILL EVERYTHING http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I still need to check out Janissary Heavy Infantry http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

edit: looking good Pr Fire http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Znake
06-14-2003, 12:19
Funniest to use are Szekely,Faris http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Strongest depends on situations http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Akka
06-14-2003, 12:52
My favorites ?

Varangian Guard. These guys are just awesome. Fight like lions, nearly never retreat, and can chop down cavalry like if it was made in paper.
I remember the day where I had to fight the power of the Horde on a bridge map. More than 500 cavalrymen (including several heavy) and archers that charged on the brige, and then on the other side, there was the unit of Varangian Guards, not even at full force... These guys not only stopped the charge, but drove the whole Mongol army all the way back to the other side of the river http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
They lost about half of their numbers, and mopped the bridge with about 300-400 dead Mongols... Quite impressive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

And I also love the Byzantine infantry and the chivalric men at arms. I must like the swordfighting http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

ShadesPanther
06-14-2003, 17:08
In VI i must say i prefer the Highland Clansmen (though i am a bit biased i admit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif )
the Fyredmen (sp definatly) come 2nd as i just like them and they have been able to defeat units they shouldn't have no problem like HC or Carls in sp and mp

In the mtw i prefer all things byzantine or Ottoman. probably Byzantine Infantry becuase they are cheap and with the right upgrade become unbelievable http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
I really like JHI tho as they just walk through spears or horses and can even take out swordsmen when they shouldn't http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

The Blind King of Bohemia
06-14-2003, 23:06
The bare chested loonies Celtic warriors,Slav warriors and Berzerkers i have a great love for.

MizuKokami
06-15-2003, 02:49
i have to say janissary archers, nizaris, or any fighting archer unit i can get my hands on. i couple them with a regular army, but with a twist of 2 added regular archers, giveing me 5 units of range usually. when i'm about half ammo left, i charge my non range inf., and run my fighting archers off towards the flank when my inf is close to engageing. it allows a potential crossfire, and at times i've been lucky enough to get my fighting archers into the enemy's flank. usually the fighting archers are also willing to die to nearly the last man.

Sainika
06-15-2003, 10:21
Gallowglasses definitely. I like their unit icon and the way they fight (and what they are doing if manage rear attack, m-m... I like them). Abyssinian guard are fun too to play.
As for new VI units - viking and saxon huscarles (viking ones more - the icon is better) and Druzhina cavalry (these 60 horsemen can dismount into 60 feudal foot knights Needless to say they are extremely dangerous).

Crash
06-17-2003, 00:31
Byzantine infantry are not spectacular, but they are the backbone of the Byzantine empire. With valour and armour upgrades, and cheap maintenance costs, they should make up about 50% of any Byzantine army. Led by good generals, they will win they game for you.

Pablo Sanchez
06-17-2003, 02:33
Celtic Warriors: 100 men, excellent attack, relatively inexpensive. I built a Welsh Kingdom, with them, although it took bandits to make an Empire http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Highland Clansmen.

LadyAnn
06-17-2003, 02:47
My favorite unit: Mangonel Looks cool, relatively useless.

Annie

Foreign Devil
06-17-2003, 10:02
Any sort of horse archer. Byzintine Cav, Faris, Boyars, everyone These guys are just so much fun You can do all sorts of cool stuff with horse archers.