Standard Currency Unit [Archive]

Kongamato

06-21-2003, 06:54

I would like to know a name for the standard currency unit used in RTW. I expect it to be a Roman coin of some sort, but I dont know what it will be called. What do you expect the currency to be?

some_totalwar_dude

06-21-2003, 10:13

It probably will be a denari

FesterShinetop

06-21-2003, 12:04

Maybe they just use some sort of general currency like Goldpieces or something like that?

Nowake

06-21-2003, 12:16

I guess sesterts.

Brother Derfel

06-21-2003, 13:47

I think it will be denari

Big King Sanctaphrax

06-21-2003, 13:53

Why would Barbarians use a Roman currency, though? I think it's going to have to be the generic and boring 'Gold pieces'.

Catiline

06-21-2003, 14:03

It's got to be either the drachma or hte denarius (which sounds posh but means 'a tenner&#39http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. Both are silver coin, hteir values are not entirely straightforward to compare because the ancients were sophisticated enough to invent debasement of coinage.

chilliwilli

06-21-2003, 17:14

I say gold http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.

benF86

06-21-2003, 17:19

Why not denarius? We use the word "denar" (that means money) in our language http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Catiline

06-21-2003, 17:23

Silver was the primary source of precious metal for coinage, gold was rarely used as currency.

As for Denar, or Dinar it's simply a contraction of denarius in the first place. THose Romans got everywhere...

alman9898

06-21-2003, 17:34

I think denarii.

Kongamato

06-21-2003, 18:10

Could it be Talents?

Or was that just a pre-Roman, Persian method of counting?

some_totalwar_dude

06-21-2003, 20:34

Talent wood be nice yes.

Or maby every civilsation uses a diffrent coin.

I.E.

Talents for eastren factions like pesia and egypt.
denarii for romans/greek?/chartage?

stones for barbarians http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

But all the coins would have the same value offcorse

RisingSun

06-21-2003, 20:37

I' tkinking talents/drachmas. But isnt a talent an amountof coins instead of just one? I remember that in Herodotus, somebody was given five talents of silver, and they said in the footnotes that it was a fortune, so talents would be better, considering I can't imagine an empire only having 30,000 coins.

EDIT: HEY I HAVE AN IDEA If anyobody has the movie with the campaign map, look at it and see if you can see what money is called

some_totalwar_dude

06-21-2003, 20:47

risingsun....

YOU ARE A G*DD@MN GENIUS

but I'm afraid that the image will be to blurry http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Monk

06-21-2003, 21:34

i just took a look at the vid with the map in it, and im sorry...i thought i had somthing but the picture was so blury i couldnt make out what it was called

FesterShinetop

06-22-2003, 00:26

Well it's either gonna be some general term like Silver or Gold pieces or the different factions all have their uniquely named currency that in fact all have the same value. That's what I'd expect. I prefer the second option though, think it will look nicer http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Cobra

06-22-2003, 02:59

CA said it is Denarii.

Herodotus

06-22-2003, 06:41

denari is Roman and while it is appropriate for the empire I think using talents would be better (1 talent being the amount of gold or silver that a man can carry).

Cobra

06-22-2003, 15:27

That seems like it would be a somewhat unstandard value, depending on the strength of the fellow, though I suppose it could be made to be for a game. Wasn't koku just some sort of rice ratio or something?

RisingSun

06-22-2003, 15:40

koku was the amount of rice a man ate in a year, IIRC.

todorp

06-22-2003, 15:44

In his books Caesar speaks of sesterces as the money of his time.

Cheers,
todorp

Balamir

06-22-2003, 15:53

Too bad CA said denarii, what I'd want was every faction to have their own unique currency and depending on some kind of military and economical strenght of the nation, the values should change. For eg if a roman denarii is 10 barbarian stones and barbarians go and take Athens, then a roman denarii should be equal to 6 barbarian stones. And they can make an statistic thing for us to check how much our money is worth if we go on vacation to see the colosseum. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

DthB4Dishonor

06-22-2003, 16:20

Hail Gentlemen,

The Sesterces was the main use of currency for Romans. It was a silver coin and worth 1/4 of a Denarius. Denarius was a gold coin.

A Talent was different. A Talent was the amount of "precious metal" 1 man can carry. It was generally between 50lbs to 55lbs (25 kilograms). You could pay someone in a Talent of gold or a talent of silver. Although obviously a Talent of gold is much more expensive.

FesterShinetop

06-22-2003, 18:24

Quote[/b] (DthB4Dishonor @ June 22 2003,16:20)]A Talent was different. A Talent was the amount of "precious metal" 1 man can carry. It was generally between 50lbs to 55lbs (25 kilograms). You could pay someone in a Talent of gold or a talent of silver. Although obviously a Talent of gold is much more expensive.
Wow, man... imagine the size of wallet you'd need for that... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Catiline

06-22-2003, 18:39

loosely hte Greek drachma was equivelent to the denarius, they were both silver coins not gold. Sesterces were indeed worth a quarter of a denarius, but they were made of silver to start with, during hte republic they went out of circulation, reintroduced by Augustus, they were made of orichalcum, an alloy of copper and tin, which looks like brass. Nice and shiny and golden...

Nelson

06-22-2003, 18:41

http://www.deadromans.com/coins/default.htm

Coins and how they were made.

A.Saturnus

06-23-2003, 11:38

It`s denari, you can see it in the video.

RisingSun

06-23-2003, 15:37

Yeah, I watched the video, and you can't read it unless you have an idea of what you are looking for, and I'm sure its not talents, and it looks like denarii, so I guess thats it.

DthB4Dishonor

06-23-2003, 16:57

Yeah, my mistake a Denari is silver. Its worth 4x that of a sesterces. A denari is approximately 3.5 grams of pure silver. Also there are approximately 6,250 Denari in a Talent. However a Talent can also be made of gold.

RTKPaul

Hakonarson

06-23-2003, 23:02

Livre, Sous, Denarii??

Bring back shillings and pence dammit - a guinea is a secent measure of money, a hal'penny for your thoughts with a groat back in change http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

lol

Hirosito

06-25-2003, 18:53

well the florins in MTW didn't make that much sense for the all the factions as well so having one currency for all now isn't too much of a surprise

Mamushi

06-26-2003, 00:02

Speaking of the video,any good links to it? (I asume we are speaking of the bootleg? German video?)Denarii makes sense to me,if anything does.

Catiline

06-26-2003, 14:55

Quote[/b] ]CA: The key resource is money, which is measured in denarii.

from worldwidegamenet.com

FesterShinetop

06-26-2003, 15:15

Thanks Catiline. That sums up this thread http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif